[Q] How to downgrade TG01 - help me please! - TG01 General

Hi All!
I am not very in with all these smartphone innovations and wm-world but i am trying to get in touch. So my problem is that i would like to run the "zeno" usb-keybord driver but it doesent work on my toshiba tg01 with windows mobile 6,5 professional (phone is bought in germany from o2). after i was researching the net for coupple of days i saw that non of the people who was running it on 6,5 had the stock rom.... but i do and i have absolutely no idea how to change that thing. I read aswell that it normally doesnt work on 6,5. So i decided to downgrade - but that is not easier for me. I hope you will excuse me for my maybe idiotic questions but i really have the good will to learn - i allready learned and did a hard reset on my tg01 . So my questions are:
1. How do I downgrade to 6,1 from 6,5 professional?
2. If i have to change the ROM - how do I do it without bricking the phone?
3. Is there any other way to plug an external usb keyboard to my tg01?
Thank you!

santosinio said:
Hi All!
I am not very in with all these smartphone innovations and wm-world but i am trying to get in touch. So my problem is that i would like to run the "zeno" usb-keybord driver but it doesent work on my toshiba tg01 with windows mobile 6,5 professional (phone is bought in germany from o2). after i was researching the net for coupple of days i saw that non of the people who was running it on 6,5 had the stock rom.... but i do and i have absolutely no idea how to change that thing. I read aswell that it normally doesnt work on 6,5. So i decided to downgrade - but that is not easier for me. I hope you will excuse me for my maybe idiotic questions but i really have the good will to learn - i allready learned and did a hard reset on my tg01 . So my questions are:
1. How do I downgrade to 6,1 from 6,5 professional?
2. If i have to change the ROM - how do I do it without bricking the phone?
3. Is there any other way to plug an external usb keyboard to my tg01?
Thank you!
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hello and welcome, santosinio.
i write a PM Private Message to you- in german
gruß, miro

Thank you for the PM. I want to try it and i will give a feedback.

Please help in downgrading TG01
Hi all. I'm quite new to all these smartphones.
I wish to perform some data acquisition using TG01 but the software of data acquisition can only support up to Windows Mobile 6.0. Can I know any ways to downgrade my current OS (WM 6.5 Pro) to WM 6.0? Is it possible to downgrade it?
Thank you.

hoiyin said:
Hi all. I'm quite new to all these smartphones.
I wish to perform some data acquisition using TG01 but the software of data acquisition can only support up to Windows Mobile 6.0. Can I know any ways to downgrade my current OS (WM 6.5 Pro) to WM 6.0? Is it possible to downgrade it?
Thank you.
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There is no way to downgrade further than WM 6.1, and even then, you cannot downgrade to official 6.1 rom as there isn't one available unless i am mistaken, what you could do is try and flash a WM 6.1 custom rom from Miro or Ferapont, these are the latest 6.1 roms available.

hoiyin said:
Hi all. I'm quite new to all these smartphones.
I wish to perform some data acquisition using TG01 but the software of data acquisition can only support up to Windows Mobile 6.0. Can I know any ways to downgrade my current OS (WM 6.5 Pro) to WM 6.0? Is it possible to downgrade it?
Thank you.
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It is fairly unusual for software to completely fail to work on a higher version WM OS, though sometimes may have some slightly odd video effects. Can I just ask whether you have proven it doesn't work or are going by the stated compatibility ?
If not, then I'd definitely recommend giving it a try with WM 6.5 first and see what happens. You may get a pleasant surprise.........
Regards,
Kevin

Hi Kevin,
I had tried to connect the phone to the software at PC but the software seems couldn't recognise the device.
Too bad. I'll try to find other alternative.
Anyway, thanks for your advice.

Related

win 2005 vs win 2003

Hello,
What are the main differences, advantages of upgrading from 2003 to 2005?
Regards,
Darko
Darko3 said:
Hello,
What are the main differences, advantages of upgrading from 2003 to 2005?
Regards,
Darko
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why don't you try it...you can always revert back or vice versa with no probs at all...
you can also back-up your original rom if you want too...
hehehe...search here all the topic rgding wm4 and wm5...
conclusion(my opinion)...if you are a heavy 3rd party application user, wm5 not your place...not yet until our genius people here got a full or a 90% bugs solution for it...
thanks...
where can i find win05 to try ?
dragons said:
where can i find win05 to try ?
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get it from our Ftp
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=113477
read this also...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=114774
I have Windows 2003 SE on my Qtek 9090, can I install Windows Mobile 2005 on it?
if it gets released for that device because you cant use the himalaya or any other rom not made for your device

h4150 upgrade

is it possible to upgrade to wm5 or wm6? i have some exp with flashing and upgrading vga.s and some mobile phones so it shouldnt be a problem but i wanna know is it possible and is there any guide to do it. thx a lot for help
smigl said:
is it possible to upgrade to wm5 or wm6? i have some exp with flashing and upgrading vga.s and some mobile phones so it shouldnt be a problem but i wanna know is it possible and is there any guide to do it. thx a lot for help
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Hi
ANyone have WM5 or WM6 for this devices?
Thanks
I own a hp ipaq 4150 and managed to run Windows 98 on it with some help from my friends. But i can guarantee there wont be WM5 / WM6 for the 4150 cuz this model is like 3 years old and there isn't enough ROM memory to store a WM5 / WM6 ROM image.
Alan Chan said:
I own a hp ipaq 4150 and managed to run Windows 98 on it with some help from my friends. But i can guarantee there wont be WM5 / WM6 for the 4150 cuz this model is like 3 years old and there isn't enough ROM memory to store a WM5 / WM6 ROM image.
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Really, I will be amazed at what some people can do, I have a motorola MXP200 first windows mobile phone and now I have WM6 on it thanks to the people here, is uses the SD card ram to built the OS. Only bad thing was the battery didn't last very long.
Kiwi_hknz said:
Really, I will be amazed at what some people can do, I have a motorola MXP200 first windows mobile phone and now I have WM6 on it thanks to the people here, is uses the SD card ram to built the OS. Only bad thing was the battery didn't last very long.
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LOL yeah its a big Innovation especially when someone can run the latest WM6 smartphone ROM on a 4 years old outdated device.
When i ran Windows on my pocket pc, I remember with the help of several hackers, they used sth like a bosch emulator to get Windows 98 running. But booting up takes like 10 minutes
is it really possible to have wm5 on hp ipaq 4150????
if yes then from where i can have this ????
holy cow, did you not read a single post in this thread?
Awais said:
is it really possible to have wm5 on hp ipaq 4150????
if yes then from where i can have this ????
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Nike - Touch Dual from WM6 to 6.1

Hi,
Please excuse my naivety but I'm only just getting to grips with this ROM business
I have CID and SIM unlocked my T-Mobile (UK) Touch Plus which is currently running WM6. I have seem there are a number of ROM's created on here which include 6.1 as their foundation but then added fancy graphics or made them faster than the original factory 6.1 ROMs.
I would like to know if I could get a 6.1 ROM onto my device which isn't customized in anyway. I know in the US they released a Touch Dual with 6.1 but not in the UK. Could I maybe use that ROM on my device?
Thanks for your help!
lmedland said:
Hi,
I would like to know if I could get a 6.1 ROM onto my device which isn't customized in anyway. I know in the US they released a Touch Dual with 6.1 but not in the UK. Could I maybe use that ROM on my device?
Thanks for your help!
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Sure. Try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397691
I have been using this on my T-Mobile Plus quite happily for a number of weeks without problem. It is fast, stable and doesn't have all the fancy bits and pieces. Might be worth you looking around the forums because there are a number of Diamond .cab files that when downloaded can give further improvements. And of course, the SPB Mobile Shell skins from Greatbal that are simply out of this World.
Hope this is of some help.
Thats great. Thanks for your help.

Before I Upgrade ....

I just bought T-Mobile Ameo WM 5.0 over the ebay which was mentioned unlocked. I am using it with vodafone SIM. I am confused by reading about upgrades that it has to be unlopcked before it ca be upgraded. Does this SIM unlock is the 'unlock' required to upgrde or is it something different?
(1) How do I know that it is really unlocked, if it is different to SIM unlocking? As it is working with other than T-Mobile SIM proves it is unlocked? As different to other WM devices I have used, this is more like a PC booting up.
(2) What are the prime benefits of upgrading to WM6.0?
(3) I want to go for official upgrade (i.e. WM 6.0) than coocked ROMs as for now. Or should I jump to the latest (but coocked Wm 6.1 or WM 6.5) ROM? Do I loose any functionality in installing coocked ROM?
(4) And last, does upgrading to offical ROM (downloaded from links on the forum) will again Unlock it to T-Mobile? This may seem trivial, but I have a bit concern that as it is going to be offical upgrade, can it again lock to T-Mobile? If it does, than I will not be in a position to use it as phone unless I unlock again! This seems funny on my part, but better prevent than cure.
Thanks in advance
NO ONE AS YET? I gussed I would have received instant answers to very basic questions becaise I had just bought Ameo!
mmbika said:
I just bought T-Mobile Ameo WM 5.0 over the ebay which was mentioned unlocked. I am using it with vodafone SIM. I am confused by reading about upgrades that it has to be unlopcked before it ca be upgraded. Does this SIM unlock is the 'unlock' required to upgrde or is it something different?
(1) How do I know that it is really unlocked, if it is different to SIM unlocking? As it is working with other than T-Mobile SIM proves it is unlocked? As different to other WM devices I have used, this is more like a PC booting up.
(2) What are the prime benefits of upgrading to WM6.0?
(3) I want to go for official upgrade (i.e. WM 6.0) than coocked ROMs as for now. Or should I jump to the latest (but coocked Wm 6.1 or WM 6.5) ROM? Do I loose any functionality in installing coocked ROM?
(4) And last, does upgrading to offical ROM (downloaded from links on the forum) will again Unlock it to T-Mobile? This may seem trivial, but I have a bit concern that as it is going to be offical upgrade, can it again lock to T-Mobile? If it does, than I will not be in a position to use it as phone unless I unlock again! This seems funny on my part, but better prevent than cure.
Thanks in advance
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Its been a while since I did mine but will try and advise on what I can remember
1.SIM unlocking is for using other networks operators and sometimes confused with CID unlocking, I think. If your using a vodaphone sim then it is def sim unlocked but in order to get it to a safe point for upgrading ideally you need to install hardspl and cid unlock I think. There are many guides on here but you will have to search and read I'm afraid as most of us did this a while ago.
2/3.Each of the windows builds 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5 bring different things and increased functionality, 6.0 and 6.1 are worthwhile upgrades as they are both official releases, you may struggle to find a stock 6.1 for the ameo though. Again its been a long time since I used 6.1 on any of my devices, 6.5 is ok as long as you realise that its still in MS beta so you may find stuff that doesnt work or isnt perfect but it is the most up to date. Cooked roms gain or loose functionality dependant on the cook who made it and what they decided to include or remove.
4. I have never installed the stock t-mobile rom so cant tell you if it will re-lock the device but I wouldnt think so.
***Please for your own sake, read as much as you can in these forums to ensure you know what your going to do, also if you do decide to go for cooked roms make sure you use a rom suitable for your SPL****
Hope this helps
avengerpenguin said:
Its been a while since I did mine but will try and advise on what I can remember
1.SIM unlocking is for using other networks operators and sometimes confused with CID unlocking, I think. If your using a vodaphone sim then it is def sim unlocked but in order to get it to a safe point for upgrading ideally you need to install hardspl and cid unlock I think. There are many guides on here but you will have to search and read I'm afraid as most of us did this a while ago.
2/3.Each of the windows builds 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5 bring different things and increased functionality, 6.0 and 6.1 are worthwhile upgrades as they are both official releases, you may struggle to find a stock 6.1 for the ameo though. Again its been a long time since I used 6.1 on any of my devices, 6.5 is ok as long as you realise that its still in MS beta so you may find stuff that doesnt work or isnt perfect but it is the most up to date. Cooked roms gain or loose functionality dependant on the cook who made it and what they decided to include or remove.
4. I have never installed the stock t-mobile rom so cant tell you if it will re-lock the device but I wouldnt think so.
***Please for your own sake, read as much as you can in these forums to ensure you know what your going to do, also if you do decide to go for cooked roms make sure you use a rom suitable for your SPL****
Hope this helps
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That's what I was suspecting, that SIM unlocking wasn't the unlocking required to upgrade it. Thanks for reconfirming this.
Now as there is offical WM 6.0 ROM for Ameo linked here, does that mean they (T-Mobile) have also referred their own upgrading procedure somewhere? For my Xperia X1, SE Updte utility takes care of official upgrade task, so something similar had existed sometime as there exists official T-Mobile 6.0 ROM, there must their official procedure too. I will definitely try to find it, but as yet someone had gone through it, please give some hints.
And as yet until I get a definite answer that upgrading it to offical WM 6.0 T-Mobile ROM will not lock (I mean SIM Lock) to T-Mobile again, I will prefer to defer although I am still looking to get enhanced performance, it has been with me for just a few day and I don't want to mess it up as I have slowly began to love it! Even it is like my desktop speakerphone at home / office and I have began to talk more conveniently and confortable on the desk or home. Yes, I am still not used to use it as normal small cell phone, but I hope I will gt used to it, although I find to see anything on screen during sulit days or in bright daylight.
mmbika said:
That's what I was suspecting, that SIM unlocking wasn't the unlocking required to upgrade it. Thanks for reconfirming this.
Now as there is offical WM 6.0 ROM for Ameo linked here, does that mean they (T-Mobile) have also referred their own upgrading procedure somewhere? For my Xperia X1, SE Updte utility takes care of official upgrade task, so something similar had existed sometime as there exists official T-Mobile 6.0 ROM, there must their official procedure too. I will definitely try to find it, but as yet someone had gone through it, please give some hints.
And as yet until I get a definite answer that upgrading it to offical WM 6.0 T-Mobile ROM will not lock (I mean SIM Lock) to T-Mobile again, I will prefer to defer although I am still looking to get enhanced performance, it has been with me for just a few day and I don't want to mess it up as I have slowly began to love it! Even it is like my desktop speakerphone at home / office and I have began to talk more conveniently and confortable on the desk or home. Yes, I am still not used to use it as normal small cell phone, but I hope I will gt used to it, although I find to see anything on screen during sulit days or in bright daylight.
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Hi. welcome to the forum. I was new here six months ago. there is a lot of information here and you MUST take time to read and understand. not many will answer your basic questions. they is not being nasty, it is just the way it is. you must teach yourself. you will not find much (if any) information about official roms.
if you decide to try a cooked rom, Lakeman has produced a great tutorial which is stickied in this forum. It is the one I followed. here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
study this carefully, google anything you dont understand, dont do anything until you are sure you know what you are doing.
just to repeat what avengerpenguin said
MAKE SURE YOU USE A ROM TO SUIT YOUR SPL
good luck
mmbika said:
I just bought T-Mobile Ameo WM 5.0 over the ebay which was mentioned unlocked. I am using it with vodafone SIM. I am confused by reading about upgrades that it has to be unlopcked before it ca be upgraded. Does this SIM unlock is the 'unlock' required to upgrde or is it something different?
(1) How do I know that it is really unlocked, if it is different to SIM unlocking? As it is working with other than T-Mobile SIM proves it is unlocked? As different to other WM devices I have used, this is more like a PC booting up.
(2) What are the prime benefits of upgrading to WM6.0?
(3) I want to go for official upgrade (i.e. WM 6.0) than coocked ROMs as for now. Or should I jump to the latest (but coocked Wm 6.1 or WM 6.5) ROM? Do I loose any functionality in installing coocked ROM?
(4) And last, does upgrading to offical ROM (downloaded from links on the forum) will again Unlock it to T-Mobile? This may seem trivial, but I have a bit concern that as it is going to be offical upgrade, can it again lock to T-Mobile? If it does, than I will not be in a position to use it as phone unless I unlock again! This seems funny on my part, but better prevent than cure.
Thanks in advance
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to be able to flash cooked ROMs to your phone you need to hardSPL your device. HardSPl will OS unlock your device. to be able to use the best WM6.5 rom for your device you need to upgrade to SPL 3.5.
first thing you need to do:
find out what spl your device is currently using: hold down camera button (all the way down) + press the reset hole/button, keep holding down on the camera button but release the reset hole/button (keep holding on camera button until a multi colored screen comes up (then release camera button) look where it says (spl) tell us what is there.
lennie said:
to be able to flash cooked ROMs to your phone you need to hardSPL your device. HardSPl will OS unlock your device. to be able to use the best WM6.5 rom for your device you need to upgrade to SPL 3.5.
first thing you need to do:
find out what spl your device is currently using: hold down camera button (all the way down) + press the reset hole/button, keep holding down on the camera button but release the reset hole/button (keep holding on camera button until a multi colored screen comes up (then release camera button) look where it says (spl) tell us what is there.
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It was 1.10 something and I upgraded to T-Mobile official WM6 ROM today without any issues and overall device is more fast and chunkier. Now it is 2.35 something.
I have however noticed two issues,
(1) HSDPA switch is enabled yet 'H' icon has gone so probably it is not connecting to HSDPA mode, I guess. I want the 'H' back.
(2) Windows Live is gone.
(3) Programs icons are noit alfabatically sorted but somehow lossely scattered.
I googled that Ameo doesn't require CID unlocked and it upgrades directly and it did via T-Mobile application which runs via USB cable.
mmbika said:
It was 1.10 something and I upgraded to T-Mobile official WM6 ROM today without any issues and overall device is more fast and chunkier. Now it is 2.35 something.
I have however noticed two issues,
(1) HSDPA switch is enabled yet 'H' icon has gone so probably it is not connecting to HSDPA mode, I guess. I want the 'H' back.
(2) Windows Live is gone.
(3) Programs icons are noit alfabatically sorted but somehow lossely scattered.
I googled that Ameo doesn't require CID unlocked and it upgrades directly and it did via T-Mobile application which runs via USB cable.
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HSDPA may be down to the age of the rom, if tmobile didnt have their HSDPA running when the rom was built may not be included in the icons etc
Windows live should be available through cab if you search or use a 3rd party app like palringo
mmbika said:
It was 1.10 something and I upgraded to T-Mobile official WM6 ROM today without any issues and overall device is more fast and chunkier. Now it is 2.35 something.
I have however noticed two issues,
(1) HSDPA switch is enabled yet 'H' icon has gone so probably it is not connecting to HSDPA mode, I guess. I want the 'H' back.
(2) Windows Live is gone.
(3) Programs icons are noit alfabatically sorted but somehow lossely scattered.
I googled that Ameo doesn't require CID unlocked and it upgrades directly and it did via T-Mobile application which runs via USB cable.
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Hi and welcome to the forum,
Now I have been using the Ameo for 2 years now, and must have flashed about every rom there is for it. So the other day I thought about going back to a stock WM6.0 T-mobile rom and try it for a few days to see how different it was to a cooked rom. Well it lasted 2 hours and I put it back to Michy's 5.1 rom. Now I'm not saying that Michy's roms are the mutts nutts of roms, that is down to personal choice, but it just proved to me why we use cooked roms. Read the WIKI, and I very much doubt you will have a fault that's not covered in that page.Also read THIS superb thread, it tells you all you need to know BE very careful when choosing a rom that you check the SPL on it, as flashing an SPL 3.5 rom onto an Ameo with another SPL will cause all sorts of problems. Like I say, Read the WIKI FIRST. take your time, and do nothing till you are sure!
Regards
Jay
Somehow I found internet access speeds even better although it doesn't display 'H' for HSDPA, because noe HD youtube videos plays smoothly with less buffering, i.e. seems good enough. Battery life has been extended.
USB host is still not good, can't retain it's status, can't load HDD or DVD or CD drives (via powered hub, offcourse)
I was just ponderind, does it drain more battery while connected to keyboard as keyboard definitely will be needing some current to drive and power to run it, that means even when it is plugged in to charger or USB to a PC, what difference does i make w.r.t time it takes to fully charge and retain there where keyboard is connected and when not?
Hi I just upgraded my Ameo using the official TMB 005 6.0 upgrade and it did not relock my sim to tmobile, my vodacom sim is still working fine, however now I want to upgrade it to 6.1 or 6.5 perhaps using a cooked ROM as i cant find an offical Tmobile upgrade to 6.1
donczaro1 said:
Hi I just upgraded my Ameo using the official TMB 005 6.0 upgrade and it did not relock my sim to tmobile, my vodacom sim is still working fine, however now I want to upgrade it to 6.1 or 6.5 perhaps using a cooked ROM as i cant find an offical Tmobile upgrade to 6.1
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I dont think there was an offical t mobile 6.1 release, and any 6.1 stock build will be very old now as I dont think there has been any oem development for this device for a long time.
avengerpenguin said:
I dont think there was an offical t mobile 6.1 release, and any 6.1 stock build will be very old now as I dont think there has been any oem development for this device for a long time.
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No there wasn't a 6.1 upgrade for our device, I think they thought it such a small change that it wasn't worth it. and not long after they brought out the 16gb device.
Regards
Jay

ROM upgrade/downgrade help

Hi,
I have an XDA atom which originally had windows 5.0
After looking around this site i upgraded to 6.5
I was wondering is there any problems/issues with downgrading to perhaps 6.1 as i read somewhere on here that 6.5 uses a lot of RAM.
Also, is 6.1 a good choice? Or should i stick with 6.5? The version of 6.5 was developed by Khoa ha if that helps at all. (
Code:
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I'm new at this so apologies if these are 'newbie' questions or if i have posted something incorrectly.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Paul.
Can anyone help??
Hi luapb,
If you are comfortable with 6.5, you should just stick to it, unless the performance is actually bothering you as WM6.5 is meant for devices with bigger ram and memory.
Anyway, you can upgrade and downgrade back and forth between 6.5 and 6.1 and 6 without any special downgrading or upgrading procedure. Just do the usual by going into bootloader or via activesync, make sure DSUU and other required files are in \window\temp and execute the DSUU program. You need to make sure the temp directory is cleaned out before copying new ROM's into it otherwise you might get undesirable results.
As for WM6.5, you can try Helloworld1, Glossyx1, Searcher or Tabbe's version, I think theirs are better than Khoa Ha as I remember reading somewhere, Khoa Ha's version are not very RAM and battery friendly.
As for WM6.1, you can try Helloworld1, Glossyx1 or Pdaviet's built 20764(get clean ver) as these are the clean and basic without those additional applications put in as OEM.
I would suggest you try first Jiggs ROM(0.7a.0 B3) WM6 first and then work your way up to decide which ROM suits you best.......
Happy flashing and discovering....
Thanks vincentshjuan

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