[Q] total program difference - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

now i have flashed my leo by 2 different stock roms
the 1st one was 1.66
and my storage info was
total storage
198.41
used storage
39.07
free storage
159.33
total program
337.12
used program
124.93
free program
212.19
the 2nd one is 3.14
and my storage info was
total storage
208.15
used storage
57.52
free storage
142.63
total program
215.98
used program
150.12
free program
65.85
my question is why did the total program change that much in 3.14 its 215.98 while in 1.66 its 337.12 and how can i change the total program in the 3.14

because you don't have spl 3.03 so you lose approx 128meg and the phone will be less stable.
this ram issue is mentioned all over, amazing you didn't see a reference to it anywhere while you were searching.

so how can i get spl 3.03? or how can i fix this problem

winner1 said:
so how can i get spl 3.03? or how can i fix this problem
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First go back on previous stock ROM.
Remove your HSPL version by using HSPL2_RUN.exe (choose fore ex. spl 1.66)
Then reinstall Stock Rom 3.14 again.

i did this i installed my stock rom 1.66 then removed the hspl then installed the 3.14 but still low in program memory

what does bootloader say for spl?

winner1 said:
i did this i installed my stock rom 1.66 then removed the hspl then installed the 3.14 but still low in program memory
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Try, first to remove the hspl and then you install mama stock rom (the one that came with your device) and then the 3.14.

i did what u told me again but when i started flashing the 3.14 the update utility said "this update utility cant be used for ur PDA phone. please check your update utility"

you need a goldcard, or wait till there is a 3.14 vendor release for your vendor locked phone.

my phone is not branded but my stock rom is for middle east while the 3.14 for Europe only
and i didnt find any 3.14 for middle east

winner1 said:
my phone is not branded but my stock rom is for middle east while the 3.14 for Europe only
and i didnt find any 3.14 for middle east
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ah yea, region lock, carrier lock, same end result. On the plus side there is more likely to be a regional update before most carrier updates.

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ROM 3.14 Help!

Hi All,
Today I updated from 1.66 to 3.14 (I own a Vodafone branded HD2 so have had to use HSPL).
After installing though I am stuck at 208mb memory available.
Does anyone have a work around yet?
I just want the stock 3.14 with 448mb as I previously had.
Cheers in advance!
200 or so meg free RAM is about what you would expect on a running phone. Just looked at mine now, 212 free of 464, with just opera running.
Dont confuse available memory with total memory.
The 208mb is the ram available in total - I have 30mb free.
Previous rom I had 448 total with ~200mb available.
ahh gotcha, then it must be this problem with hspl as mentioned (only just read about it after my first answer)
HERE
This ROM contains SPL 3.03 and drivers 3.14 which are working INCORRECTLY with 2.08 HSPL. If you flash this ROM you will get only 70-80mb free RAM after Hard Reset.
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Just have to wait for a HSPL update I guess?
Same problem here,my RAM is down to 35MB,any fixes to this?
jimmybob_007 said:
Just have to wait for a HSPL update I guess?
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I think yes.
you have to install custom spl to enable 448 ram
if you flash it whilst you dont have hspl installed, it will upgrade the spl to 3.x and the ram will be fixed, but you will be stuck with spl 3 until hspl gets updated.
just flash with HSPL 2 and choose install original SPL, then reflash stock 3.14 ROM. All will be ok.

[Q] Very Low memory on Hd2

Hi,
I'm a new bee with it comes to hd2 (I just bought one). WEll the language of the rom was not english so I used HSPL and downloaded the stock rom 3.14 WWE. Now when the HD2 boots, I only see 176.37MB (under storage in memory). And nothing runs ok except sense. How can get all the memory of the hd2 back?
Thanks
thats usual. i have ~180mb for total storage.
im using a stock 1.66 and i have 180.60mb for total storage.
i think he is refering to the bug that if you run the 3.14 rom with 2.08.hspl you lose some memory. it is mentioned in one of the 3.14 rom threads, maybe the others too by now.
quote from post 1 in THIS thread
This ROM contains SPL 3.03 and drivers 3.14 which are working INCORRECTLY with 2.08 HSPL. If you flash this ROM you will get only 70-80mb free RAM after Hard Reset.
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ok then I need to put spl back to the phone. Then how can I install WWE. The phone is from netherlands and came with dutch version of WM 6.5. I need to install WWE as I don't know Dutch.

[Q] flash won't work

I have read a lot of threads, tried them all but still have problems. Can sombody please help me.
I updated my HD2 with the original 3.14 from HTC then my troubles started.
I started getting an error about not enough memory. After checking it the device only sees 64 Mb memeory instead of 100+ for the working area.
After this I installed the last Artemis version, problem with memory gone. Because the version kept locking up my phone and sudden reboots happend, I re-installed Artemis. Then the memory error was back.
I have now tried everything that I could find: task 29, HSPL, back to SSPL, old versions, back to original (new), flashing original via SD card.
I keep getting 2 problems:
1) memory only sees 54 Mb working area !!!
2) when I try to flash I have to start from coloured screen. Otherwise won't see the HD2 (with Async). When flash starts and percentage screen appears it won't start updating.
Anyone....?
Reduce program memory (+/- 50MB) with Stock ROM 3.14 is because peoples don't remove HSPL before thy install stock ROM 3.14
Turn back to previous stock ROM
Remove HSPL, use HSPL2_RUN.exe and select a SPL version ex 1.66
Than reinstall stock ROM 3.14
I am not on HSPL.
My Settings:
Memory 54.05 MB
Used 54.05 MB
Program Memeory 336.77
Used 132.09
SPL-3.03.0000
R 2.15.50.14
G 15.42.50.11U
D 3.14.04666
Junk4M said:
I am not on HSPL.
My Settings:
Memory 54.05 MB
Used 54.05 MB
Program Memeory 336.77
Used 132.09
SPL-3.03.0000
R 2.15.50.14
G 15.42.50.11U
D 3.14.04666
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is this phone yours or may be owned by someone else who had hspl before ??
No, my phone, first owner and have it since May.
Just thinking. I did put HSPL on it when my memory problem (64 Mb) started (after installing Artemis for second time). After that I went back to SPL.
Junk4M said:
Just thinking. I did put HSPL on it when my memory problem (64 Mb) started (after installing Artemis for second time). After that I went back to SPL.
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My suggestion is to flash stock ROM 3.14 again over SD to be sure.
I already did that, same problem. With the original HTC upgrade 3.14 renamed to leoimg and boot from SD card.
Junk4M said:
I already did that, same problem. With the original HTC upgrade 3.14 renamed to leoimg and boot from SD card.
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flash original shipped via SD then hard reset then flash 3.14 again and see what happens.
thank you. it looks like it's working. sees 73 MB memory, still not all I think but it's a start
I too am on 3.14. Was a stock dutch rom so annoying
I downgraded to 1.48. Used HSPL3 to install my WWE 3.14.
I too have around 50 mb of memory.
Indeed, the solution seems to be to remove HSPL before running the rom. but if i remove hspl, how will i be able to run the WWE rom? wouldnt the phone be blocked on Dutch settings again?
Also, i was using HSPL3. How can i remove it, to then install HSPL2? what steps should i follow, what should i remove first, add next, etc? (for example, nobody had told me HSPL and 3.14 caused memory problems.. any other things i need to know? )
Thx for the explanations! (and to Samsamuel for his previous explanations)
Original is still working, but when I upgrade to 3.14 (original or Artemis) memeory problem is back.
Still in search of a solution.....who can help.
The memory problem is because you have HSPL while running 3.14 ROM. The easiet method is to go and flash the origional ROM that your phone came with. This should remove the HSPL. If it doesn't, then run HSPL2 - in it is the option to select the SPL that origionally came with the phone (these end in .0000).
If this ROM was from HTC (and not with mobile phone company branding), then you can reflash with the 3.14 ROM appropiate to your region.
If your phone is branded (ie O2, T-Mobile UK, Vodafone, etc), then you have to use the GoldCard method * HERE *. Then you can follow the process for the non-branded HTC phone.
Please note, that when you flash your phone you do so at your own risk. Make sure before you start what phone you have (ie T-Mobile USA) and read the instructions. Then read the instruction until you are sureyou know what you are doing.
Tried it all but still the same problems. back on original
Every time I try to update to 3.14 memory problems start. I don't understand. I really went thru every thing step by step but I don't get the whole memory back even on original the max is 73 MB. A friend of mine has the same one and is on original ROM with 123 MB free memory.
Is there a way to see what's blocking the memory?

[q] spl 3.03.0000

Hi,
I looked the forum up and down, but can't find my answer.
So here my Q.
I had HSPL2.
After I installed the official ROM 3.14NL I started having memory problems.
I switched to SPL 2.08.
Still the same problem.
Do I have to reinstall the ROM 3.14?
It seems I need to have the SPL 3.03.0000?
Will it go automaticly to SPL 3.03.0000 with the reinstall?
Thanks.
Shadow62 said:
Hi,
I looked the forum up and down, but can't find my answer.
So here my Q.
I had HSPL2.
After I installed the official ROM 3.14NL I started having memory problems.
I switched to SPL 2.08.
Still the same problem.
Do I have to reinstall the ROM 3.14?
It seems I need to have the SPL 3.03.0000?
Will it go automaticly to SPL 3.03.0000 with the reinstall?
Thanks.
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Yes; reinstall Stock ROM 3.14
The problems you mention are normal; Stock ROM 3.14 isn't compatible with HSPL and it needs SPL 3.03 (the original from stock ROM 3.14)
kurt-willems said:
Yes; reinstall Stock ROM 3.14
The problems you mention are normal; Stock ROM 3.14 isn't compatible with HSPL and it needs SPL 3.03 (the original from stock ROM 3.14)
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Hi, thanks for your quick answer.
I'm now trying to update (reinstall) the 3.14 stock ROM.
However, the install procedure begins and holds at 0%.
So it does not start the update.
What can I do to resolve this problem?
Thanks.
Shadow62 said:
Hi, thanks for your quick answer.
I'm now trying to update (reinstall) the 3.14 stock ROM.
However, the install procedure begins and holds at 0%.
So it does not start the update.
What can I do to resolve this problem?
Thanks.
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Using the right stock ROM.
Go to the HTC webpage and download with your S/N the stock ROM. and use this.
The problem would probably be do to a non compatible stock ROM.
And flash it then over SD; here you have the steps.
1) Download the correct Stock ROM from the HTC Webpage by using your S/N. (you will get a RUU_Leo_xxx_x.XX.xxx.x_Radio_xx.xx.xx.xU_x.xx.xx.x_LEO_Ship file.)
2) Right click on the RUU_Leo_xxx_x.XX.xxx.x_Radio_xx.xx.xx.xU_x.xx.xx.x_LEO_Ship file and select extract with 7Zip/WinZip
3) Prepared your SD-card (use a 2 or 4GB SD no bigger) and format it by FAT32
4)Take the "RUU_signed.nbh" from it and copy it to SD card.
5) Rename the "RUU_signed.nbh" to "leoimg.nbh"
6) Reset the device while pressing the volume down button
7) Follow the instructions mention on your device screen
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Thanks again for your quickness.
But when I want to get my 3.14 on the HD2 it now says "Ongeldige verkoper-ID" - "Invalid Vendor-ID"
I don't understand, I had the 3.14 on the HD2.
It only did not have the SPL 3.03.0000.
?ow I have the SPL 1.66.0000
So, what do I have dto do now?
Sorry.
Shadow62 said:
Thanks again for your quickness.
But when I want to get my 3.14 on the HD2 it now says "Ongeldige verkoper-ID" - "Invalid Vendor-ID"
I don't understand, I had the 3.14 on the HD2.
It only did not have the SPL 3.03.0000.
?ow I have the SPL 1.66.0000
So, what do I have dto do now?
Sorry.
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The "Ongeldige verkoper-ID" is the error that say's you that you are trying to install a stock ROM that don't match your device.
Mostly because peoples have a branded device and are trying to install a normal stock ROM.
Did you use your (not from someone els) S/N to download the stock ROM from the HTC Webpage?
Nope, used the Netherlands S/N from XDA Developers.
Bought the phone in Germany, and there was allready a HSPL on it.
Not sure wich ROM originaly was on it.
Think I'm going back to Stock ROM 1.66.
Worked fine.
Strange that I could replace it by 3.14 though.
But of course the SPL did not change to 3.03
Shadow62 said:
Nope, used the Netherlands S/N from XDA Developers.
Bought the phone in Germany, and there was allready a HSPL on it.
Not sure wich ROM originaly was on it.
Think I'm going back to Stock ROM 1.66.
Worked fine.
Strange that I could replace it by 3.14 though.
But of course the SPL did not change to 3.03
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That's the problem sir. Your device is a originally German Device.
Like I mention before for Stock ROM 3.14 you can't use HSPL and you need to use YOUR S/N to download/install the correct 3.14 stock ROM.
Ons you have install the right/correct stock ROM (German version in your case) than extract the NLD 3.14 stock rom and use the RUU_signed.nbh from the NLD stock ROM and install this by using SSPL_RUU.exe
So, conclusion:
- Don't use HSPL
- Install the correct 3.14 stock ROM (German version)
- Install then the NLD version by using SSPL_RUU
Thanks again.
Excellent and detailed info.
Bur with my own number it now says that my S/N does not qualify for download an available Stock ROM 3.14 from the HTC site.
So I think it's a WWE version?
I downgraded again to 1.66.
Al programs working fine.
Will a HSPL 3.03 follow in the future?
Again, thanks for your effort.
Shadow62 said:
Thanks again.
Excellent and detailed info.
Bur with my own number it now says that my S/N does not qualify for download an available Stock ROM 3.14 from the HTC site.
So I think it's a WWE version?
I downgraded again to 1.66.
Al programs working fine.
Will a HSPL 3.03 follow in the future?
Again, thanks for your effort.
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Hmm, I see.
About a compatible HSPL version with SPL 3.03 It's a wail now that SPL 3.03 exist and till here there is no feedback/reply if a new HSPL version will/and when it will be created.
But concern your cases; probably you have a branded German device (who don't have received a 3.14 stock ROM updated.)
The only thing you can do is use the GoldCard Technique. >> Read more info about it here <<
Don't think it's branded.
I was able to put Stock ROM 3.14NL on it, with HSPL.
Only issue was that SPL did not change.
Shadow62 said:
Don't think it's branded.
I was able to put Stock ROM 3.14NL on it, with HSPL.
Only issue was that SPL did not change.
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Trust me; it's branded.
And yes, it is normal that you can install a other stock ROM on your device if you have/use HSPL (that's the force of HSPL).
But like you already know, HSPL isn't compatible with Stock ROM 3.14 so the only solution left if you will upgrade to 3.14 stock ROM is to use the GoldCard technique.

No way to recover all my RAM

Hello everybody,
Here is my problem:
My Hd2 had a Rom 1.44, I do not know where it came from, I bought it second-hand (my oerator is sfr). I decided to install the Rom 3.14 coming from HTC (Tx a false serial number and i has a hspl 2.08)
Everything goes well exept my memory(programs) decrease abominably (as everybody knows but as an idiot I had not inquired before).
I believed that by installing hspl3.03 that would be back to normal again! it didn't. (I even reinstalled the ROM3.14 and also tried with the spl 3.03)
I installed back the hspl 2.08 and reinstalled an old version (RUU_Leo_HTC_FRA_1.66.406.1_Radio_Signed _15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship) The problem was the same.
I try via task29 with as radio Rom 2.15.50.14. And flash with the Rom above, always similar: total report: 208,97, used: 132.21, free: 76,76.
I do not know any more what to do! Please Help !
Tx to read me, have a nice end of we.
(sorry for my english, i am french)
McAlister
enter bootloader
run hspl4
choose 3.03.hspl from teh dropdown
when phone reboots quickly enter bootloader again
run your 3.14 .exe rom install over usb.
report back.
Tx to help me,
I did it,i didn't use the exe but it used customruu and the 3.14.nbh
It's ok no ?
Even the probleme is here again total progams memory is 208.81 mo !
I also tried with the 1.42 spl and the 1.66 rom, the probleme was there too !
i also tried to install the 3.14 rom with the 1.66.000 spl, the probleme was there too !
i have no more idea !
McAlister said:
3.14 rom with the 1.66.000 spl, the probleme was there too !
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well yea, it would be, it will always be there whenever the rom is 3.14 and the spl is NOT 3.03.xxxx
I mean i have first installed the 1.66.000 spl and then i install the 3.14 rom (nbh via customruu) like i read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-826915.html
so you have 3.14 running now, and what does it say in bootloader? (please dont just guess, go and have an actual look)
Hey McAlister, make sure that when. you flashed the 3.14 ROM that it is flashing this radio too. Radio version 2.15.50.14
T-Macgnolia said:
Hey McAlister, make sure that when. you flashed the 3.14 ROM that it is flashing this radio too. Radio version 2.15.50.14
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As I understand, Stock ROM version 3.14 includes Radio 2.15.xx.xxx
Unless you flash the Custom ROM which would not include the Radio, then you have to flash radio separately
Cheers
Samsamuel --> I can't have a look now because i have installed the 1.66 rom but i remember, because i did care of it, that when i have installed the spl 3.03 before installing the rom it was the spl 3.03 after, and when i tried with the hspl 3.03 (before) it was the hslp 3.03 after too.
T-Macgnolia --> Yes the radio have changed for the 2.15.50.14 each time i tried with the exe, and, in fact, when i have used the ruucustom.exe the radio was 2.15.50.14 yet.
I am now with the 1.66 rom and with hspl 2.08 but my total memory is again 208 mo.
Tx a lot for your help.
Sure you don't have a pre release model??? Some of those come with less ram,,
That's not impossible, do you know how i can see that ?
Not sure, some have decals on the back, HT97 comes to mind,, Google it. What's top line in bootloader?
Download HSPL4 and install HSPL 2.08.
Download the last radio and update it!
The first line in bootloader is : PB81100 SS-BC
No Decals writing in the back but look at this link, the memory spec : http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-hd2-full-spec-list-revealed-0558921/
it's the same for me when i look in (in french) informations materielles. My brother have an Hd2 too, its total memory isn't 320 mo but 448 mo.
I am like nicolog71 here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-639818.html
ok, you arent mistaking total hardware ram and total available program ram, are you?
The hardware on a regular hd2 has 448meg ram, of which the graphics hardware takes 128meg, leaving teh system with 320meg ram, of which usually a good 120 meg or more is taken by the system running, cookies and suchlike, leaving about 200 usually for you to use. It can really easily be that you get much less than 200 meg ram free.
This all gets more confusing if you have gotten used to running cooked roms with the 576 enabled, because THEN the hardware info page shows 576MB and the system moemory app shows 448 total. You will not get this on any stock roms. Only on tweaked cooked roms, and since you have flashed back to stock roms, you will currently see hardware 448, total 320.
Perhaps your brother has a cooked rom installed?
You need to look at the hardware info page, which should show 448MB Ram, and compare that to the windows system memory page which will show 320 or so total RAM with xxMB used /XX free.
So my hd2 is a pre released hd2, you were right !
Do you know if there is a way to unlock the rest of the memory ?
Thank for all, you really help me and now i can understand my problem !
no clue, sorry, , have a read thru some of the threads started by xmoo, he knows a ton about test roms and models.
ok, tx again, i will try to buy another Hd2 or waiting for the next big screen htc phone.

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