[Q] Excessive memory usage and ROM 3.14 - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have installed the new WWE 3.14 and found the memory usage out of this world. Quick phone history, used HSPL2 to get away from T-Mobile ROM 1.43 to HTC WWE 1.66, which worked brilliantly I might add. Now updated to 3.14 and getting weird behaviour and excessive memory usage (total 208 MB, used 160 MB, available 47 MB). Any ideas?

acidflash said:
Any ideas?
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It has been stated numerous time on this forum that HSPL and 3.14 official ROM's do NOT mix. There will be a memory issue.

noted, thanks.

Noted, I'll revert to 1.66
Thanks

Did the same mistake as you.
However, you may install a stock rom 3.14, then use SSPL, and then add the 3.14 rom of your choice. This will allow you to have spl upgraded to 3.03 and full memory will be available
I did that yesterday following posts of senior users works like a charm in under 5 minutes

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I have installed 3.14 as well but than i did hard reset and it is working fine for me.
Try installing the ROM again and see what happens

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ROM 3.14 Help!

Hi All,
Today I updated from 1.66 to 3.14 (I own a Vodafone branded HD2 so have had to use HSPL).
After installing though I am stuck at 208mb memory available.
Does anyone have a work around yet?
I just want the stock 3.14 with 448mb as I previously had.
Cheers in advance!
200 or so meg free RAM is about what you would expect on a running phone. Just looked at mine now, 212 free of 464, with just opera running.
Dont confuse available memory with total memory.
The 208mb is the ram available in total - I have 30mb free.
Previous rom I had 448 total with ~200mb available.
ahh gotcha, then it must be this problem with hspl as mentioned (only just read about it after my first answer)
HERE
This ROM contains SPL 3.03 and drivers 3.14 which are working INCORRECTLY with 2.08 HSPL. If you flash this ROM you will get only 70-80mb free RAM after Hard Reset.
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Just have to wait for a HSPL update I guess?
Same problem here,my RAM is down to 35MB,any fixes to this?
jimmybob_007 said:
Just have to wait for a HSPL update I guess?
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I think yes.
you have to install custom spl to enable 448 ram
if you flash it whilst you dont have hspl installed, it will upgrade the spl to 3.x and the ram will be fixed, but you will be stuck with spl 3 until hspl gets updated.
just flash with HSPL 2 and choose install original SPL, then reflash stock 3.14 ROM. All will be ok.

[Q] memory jumps to 64 Mb (dualsim)

ahh ok, already on spl 3.03, my mistake then.
I installed the newest ROM upgrade from HTC and now the ROM shows 64 MB for the working area and the phone keeps giving the eroor that the workspace is too full. After installing the latest Artemis v42 it was solved and back to 100 something Mb. After some locks, reboots, hard resets etc I installed v42 again and now this version has the same problem only 64 Mb workspace.
I have a european HD2 with Vodafone. And I am using a dualsim adapter with a KPN sim included as well.
The SiMore software from the adapter might be the problem.
Kan anybody help me
you have hspl still installed. 3.14 roms must have spl 3.03 or you will have trouble.
the hspl/3.14/memory issue is well documented in dozens of threads.
samsamuel said:
you have hspl still installed. 3.14 roms must have spl 3.03 or you will have trouble.
the hspl/3.14/memory issue is well documented in dozens of threads.
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Thnx. is there a simple guide what to do from here. been searching finding a lot but which one. I'm the amateur I know.
if there is a stock 3.14 for your phone....
run hspl2, choose 1.66.0000
flash the 3.14 rom. usb is fine.
if you have a branded and there is no stock 3.14, thenyou need a goldcard.
if you aren't bothered for 3.14 and want to play with the non 3.14 cooked roms, just flash one. hspl is already installed.look in the rom development thread, at the top there are only 2 or three stickies, one is a list of the loads of threads that should be sticky but aren't cos they'd take up the whole front page.
a good evenings reading material.
Bootloader says: SPL-3.03.0000 XE
Ok but now what? Can anybody help me?

[Q] flash won't work

I have read a lot of threads, tried them all but still have problems. Can sombody please help me.
I updated my HD2 with the original 3.14 from HTC then my troubles started.
I started getting an error about not enough memory. After checking it the device only sees 64 Mb memeory instead of 100+ for the working area.
After this I installed the last Artemis version, problem with memory gone. Because the version kept locking up my phone and sudden reboots happend, I re-installed Artemis. Then the memory error was back.
I have now tried everything that I could find: task 29, HSPL, back to SSPL, old versions, back to original (new), flashing original via SD card.
I keep getting 2 problems:
1) memory only sees 54 Mb working area !!!
2) when I try to flash I have to start from coloured screen. Otherwise won't see the HD2 (with Async). When flash starts and percentage screen appears it won't start updating.
Anyone....?
Reduce program memory (+/- 50MB) with Stock ROM 3.14 is because peoples don't remove HSPL before thy install stock ROM 3.14
Turn back to previous stock ROM
Remove HSPL, use HSPL2_RUN.exe and select a SPL version ex 1.66
Than reinstall stock ROM 3.14
I am not on HSPL.
My Settings:
Memory 54.05 MB
Used 54.05 MB
Program Memeory 336.77
Used 132.09
SPL-3.03.0000
R 2.15.50.14
G 15.42.50.11U
D 3.14.04666
Junk4M said:
I am not on HSPL.
My Settings:
Memory 54.05 MB
Used 54.05 MB
Program Memeory 336.77
Used 132.09
SPL-3.03.0000
R 2.15.50.14
G 15.42.50.11U
D 3.14.04666
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is this phone yours or may be owned by someone else who had hspl before ??
No, my phone, first owner and have it since May.
Just thinking. I did put HSPL on it when my memory problem (64 Mb) started (after installing Artemis for second time). After that I went back to SPL.
Junk4M said:
Just thinking. I did put HSPL on it when my memory problem (64 Mb) started (after installing Artemis for second time). After that I went back to SPL.
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My suggestion is to flash stock ROM 3.14 again over SD to be sure.
I already did that, same problem. With the original HTC upgrade 3.14 renamed to leoimg and boot from SD card.
Junk4M said:
I already did that, same problem. With the original HTC upgrade 3.14 renamed to leoimg and boot from SD card.
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flash original shipped via SD then hard reset then flash 3.14 again and see what happens.
thank you. it looks like it's working. sees 73 MB memory, still not all I think but it's a start
I too am on 3.14. Was a stock dutch rom so annoying
I downgraded to 1.48. Used HSPL3 to install my WWE 3.14.
I too have around 50 mb of memory.
Indeed, the solution seems to be to remove HSPL before running the rom. but if i remove hspl, how will i be able to run the WWE rom? wouldnt the phone be blocked on Dutch settings again?
Also, i was using HSPL3. How can i remove it, to then install HSPL2? what steps should i follow, what should i remove first, add next, etc? (for example, nobody had told me HSPL and 3.14 caused memory problems.. any other things i need to know? )
Thx for the explanations! (and to Samsamuel for his previous explanations)
Original is still working, but when I upgrade to 3.14 (original or Artemis) memeory problem is back.
Still in search of a solution.....who can help.
The memory problem is because you have HSPL while running 3.14 ROM. The easiet method is to go and flash the origional ROM that your phone came with. This should remove the HSPL. If it doesn't, then run HSPL2 - in it is the option to select the SPL that origionally came with the phone (these end in .0000).
If this ROM was from HTC (and not with mobile phone company branding), then you can reflash with the 3.14 ROM appropiate to your region.
If your phone is branded (ie O2, T-Mobile UK, Vodafone, etc), then you have to use the GoldCard method * HERE *. Then you can follow the process for the non-branded HTC phone.
Please note, that when you flash your phone you do so at your own risk. Make sure before you start what phone you have (ie T-Mobile USA) and read the instructions. Then read the instruction until you are sureyou know what you are doing.
Tried it all but still the same problems. back on original
Every time I try to update to 3.14 memory problems start. I don't understand. I really went thru every thing step by step but I don't get the whole memory back even on original the max is 73 MB. A friend of mine has the same one and is on original ROM with 123 MB free memory.
Is there a way to see what's blocking the memory?

[Q] Big problem with changing volume in calls!

Hy i searched for about 2 hours for a fix on my problem.
If i make or receive a call and i want to change volume up or down or activate speaker the phone hangs or get very laggy for a few seconds and then freezes and all i can do is a reset from the reset button on the back of the phone.
Manila: 2.5.20191914.0
Rom: Artemis 48.1 WWE
Radio: 2.05.51.05_2
Protocol: 15.28.50.07U
I had a original german soft (didn't tested if it does like that in that soft too because i didn't know how to make a call in german...)), after that installed HSPL3 and Artemis.
Any fix? Is it the radio faulty?
Thanks!
Ok i flashed RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2_Ship.exe and now seems that all is ok.
Your problem was related to the fact you didn't follow the instruction.
I mean with this that stock ROM 3.14 isn't compatible with HSPL.
Remove HSPL before you install stock ROM 3.14 and you would have problems.
Sorry for this dumb question but what is best not to do?
i just flashed now RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe
and i have HSPL3 installed, now everything works fine, haven't installed nothing untill now and 60 mb ram free ( dont; know if its good or bad )
I want to install Artemis 48.1 is it posible or i will have more problems?!
Thank you very much for your answer!
crys18 said:
Sorry for this dumb question but what is best not to do?
i just flashed now RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe
and i have HSPL3 installed, now everything works fine, haven't installed nothing untill now and 60 mb ram free ( dont; know if its good or bad )
I want to install Artemis 48.1 is it posible or i will have more problems?!
Thank you very much for your answer!
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best is to remove HSPL > use HSPL2_RUN.exe and remove your HSPL value select a spl value. and reinstall then Stock ROM 3.14 again.
Edit; if you will some more information; step by step guide take a look on this.
In case you have the traditional (free device):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8776196&postcount=26465
In case you have a branded device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8945325&postcount=28077
Go back and repeat what you did in Post 2 and flash RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.0 7U_2.04.50_22_2_Ship.exe.
Boot up into BootLoader Mode (Press and hold Volume Down button then tap the Power button). In the multicoloured screen you will see a value for the SPL, which should be 1.42.000. If it has a value of .HSPL instead of .0000, then you need run HSPL2 and change it to a .0000 version.
You next need to to use the GoldCard method so you can then flash with the Artemis 48.1 ROM.
From your first post, I would guess that you just did a quick read through of the Artemis ROM first post. In the FLASHING NOTES part, it says not to run HSPL and use the Gold Card Experience. All 3.14 ROMs and Based ROMs (ie the Artemis 48.1) require a Radio 2.15.50.14.
Artemis HD2 v48.1
fred_up said:
From your first post, I would guess that you just did a quick read through of the Artemis ROM first post. In the FLASHING NOTES part, it says not to run HSPL and use the Gold Card Experience. All 3.14 ROMs and Based ROMs (ie the Artemis 48.1) require a Radio 2.15.50.14.
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Just a small correction; Goldcard isn't alway's necessary, only in case if it is a branded device who don't have received yet a 3.14 stock ROM or if the aria ROM isn't updated yet to 3.14
kurt-willems said:
Just a small correction; Goldcard isn't alway's necessary, only in case if it is a branded device who don't have received yet a 3.14 stock ROM or if the aria ROM isn't updated yet to 3.14
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Hi Kurt,
I was specifically talking about crys18's problem.
You are correct that if they already have a 3.14 (based) ROM, then they need to use SSPL to use a custom ROM.
Ok i installed Artemis 48.1 over RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe without removing HSPL3 and everything works normal. Except the fact that rams is only 39 Mb free, i think i will repair it with a hammer
crys18 said:
Ok i installed Artemis 48.1 over RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe without removing HSPL3 and everything works normal. Except the fact that rams is only 39 Mb free, i think i will repair it with a hammer
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Read Post #6.
Fixed now 10x a lot :X

No way to recover all my RAM

Hello everybody,
Here is my problem:
My Hd2 had a Rom 1.44, I do not know where it came from, I bought it second-hand (my oerator is sfr). I decided to install the Rom 3.14 coming from HTC (Tx a false serial number and i has a hspl 2.08)
Everything goes well exept my memory(programs) decrease abominably (as everybody knows but as an idiot I had not inquired before).
I believed that by installing hspl3.03 that would be back to normal again! it didn't. (I even reinstalled the ROM3.14 and also tried with the spl 3.03)
I installed back the hspl 2.08 and reinstalled an old version (RUU_Leo_HTC_FRA_1.66.406.1_Radio_Signed _15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship) The problem was the same.
I try via task29 with as radio Rom 2.15.50.14. And flash with the Rom above, always similar: total report: 208,97, used: 132.21, free: 76,76.
I do not know any more what to do! Please Help !
Tx to read me, have a nice end of we.
(sorry for my english, i am french)
McAlister
enter bootloader
run hspl4
choose 3.03.hspl from teh dropdown
when phone reboots quickly enter bootloader again
run your 3.14 .exe rom install over usb.
report back.
Tx to help me,
I did it,i didn't use the exe but it used customruu and the 3.14.nbh
It's ok no ?
Even the probleme is here again total progams memory is 208.81 mo !
I also tried with the 1.42 spl and the 1.66 rom, the probleme was there too !
i also tried to install the 3.14 rom with the 1.66.000 spl, the probleme was there too !
i have no more idea !
McAlister said:
3.14 rom with the 1.66.000 spl, the probleme was there too !
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well yea, it would be, it will always be there whenever the rom is 3.14 and the spl is NOT 3.03.xxxx
I mean i have first installed the 1.66.000 spl and then i install the 3.14 rom (nbh via customruu) like i read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-826915.html
so you have 3.14 running now, and what does it say in bootloader? (please dont just guess, go and have an actual look)
Hey McAlister, make sure that when. you flashed the 3.14 ROM that it is flashing this radio too. Radio version 2.15.50.14
T-Macgnolia said:
Hey McAlister, make sure that when. you flashed the 3.14 ROM that it is flashing this radio too. Radio version 2.15.50.14
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As I understand, Stock ROM version 3.14 includes Radio 2.15.xx.xxx
Unless you flash the Custom ROM which would not include the Radio, then you have to flash radio separately
Cheers
Samsamuel --> I can't have a look now because i have installed the 1.66 rom but i remember, because i did care of it, that when i have installed the spl 3.03 before installing the rom it was the spl 3.03 after, and when i tried with the hspl 3.03 (before) it was the hslp 3.03 after too.
T-Macgnolia --> Yes the radio have changed for the 2.15.50.14 each time i tried with the exe, and, in fact, when i have used the ruucustom.exe the radio was 2.15.50.14 yet.
I am now with the 1.66 rom and with hspl 2.08 but my total memory is again 208 mo.
Tx a lot for your help.
Sure you don't have a pre release model??? Some of those come with less ram,,
That's not impossible, do you know how i can see that ?
Not sure, some have decals on the back, HT97 comes to mind,, Google it. What's top line in bootloader?
Download HSPL4 and install HSPL 2.08.
Download the last radio and update it!
The first line in bootloader is : PB81100 SS-BC
No Decals writing in the back but look at this link, the memory spec : http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-hd2-full-spec-list-revealed-0558921/
it's the same for me when i look in (in french) informations materielles. My brother have an Hd2 too, its total memory isn't 320 mo but 448 mo.
I am like nicolog71 here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-639818.html
ok, you arent mistaking total hardware ram and total available program ram, are you?
The hardware on a regular hd2 has 448meg ram, of which the graphics hardware takes 128meg, leaving teh system with 320meg ram, of which usually a good 120 meg or more is taken by the system running, cookies and suchlike, leaving about 200 usually for you to use. It can really easily be that you get much less than 200 meg ram free.
This all gets more confusing if you have gotten used to running cooked roms with the 576 enabled, because THEN the hardware info page shows 576MB and the system moemory app shows 448 total. You will not get this on any stock roms. Only on tweaked cooked roms, and since you have flashed back to stock roms, you will currently see hardware 448, total 320.
Perhaps your brother has a cooked rom installed?
You need to look at the hardware info page, which should show 448MB Ram, and compare that to the windows system memory page which will show 320 or so total RAM with xxMB used /XX free.
So my hd2 is a pre released hd2, you were right !
Do you know if there is a way to unlock the rest of the memory ?
Thank for all, you really help me and now i can understand my problem !
no clue, sorry, , have a read thru some of the threads started by xmoo, he knows a ton about test roms and models.
ok, tx again, i will try to buy another Hd2 or waiting for the next big screen htc phone.

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