It is not really named that, but I named it such:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=300492182439&view=all&tid=498928117020
Ordered one to try out. I want something to have a better control for games and Flash content, but VERY portable. This KB will fit in the zip pouch of my slim Case Logic soft case. Not expecting much, but $19 gamble.
Reports are the battery lasts quite awhile, but that assumes the model I get is what others have....
rushless said:
It is not really named that, but I named it such:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=300492182439&view=all&tid=498928117020
Ordered one to try out. I want something to have a better control for games and Flash content, but VERY portable. This KB will fit in the zip pouch of my slim Case Logic soft case. Not expecting much, but $19 gamble.
Reports are the battery lasts quite awhile, but that assumes the model I get is what others have....
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Was thinking to find a new BT Keyboard with mouse, trackball, JKey... But seems that this one disappeared from ebay... hope you are lucky and got the last one...
Can you post a pic of what this actually looks like? I'd like a small bt keyboard with the emphasis on small since it's something that I wouldn't use all the time but wouldn't mind keeping in my case for when I do.
jtbnet said:
Was thinking to find a new BT Keyboard with mouse, trackball, JKey... But seems that this one disappeared from ebay... hope you are lucky and got the last one...
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I'm considering one as well. Been looking at this one as it looks like it also has a mouse control built into the upper right hard corner. On the TNT Lite build, so mouse support isn't there yet, but hopefully it will. It's close enough in price to the others to be a great value. Even comes with it's own case.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.48849
I really do want something with a full size keyboard though, with a case and BT. Something like this, but for the GTab.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51165
I purchased this Gear Head USB Mini Touchpad keyboard from Fry's for $29. I wanted to go wireless but since anytime using the tablet you have to be close to it, I figure I can save some money with the USB version.
The keymapping works perfectly.
Home key = Android home button
Windows key = Android menu button
Escape key = Android back button
Cursors keys = Android up, down, left and right
The touchpad works as any other mouse used with your G-Tablet. It's also multitouch. The keyboard volume keys, located above the touchpad, also work. It even has NumLock and CapsLock light indicator. The keyboard is 0.5 inch wider than the tablet.
Here's their website : http://www.pcgearhead.com/keyboards.php
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@marianosf, what ROM are you running? CM6? I just got my GTab today and am going to put TNTLite on it as soon as I get home but would like a ROM with keyboard and mouse support (I don't know if all of them support wired or not).
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@marianosf, what ROM are you running? CM6? I just got my GTab today and am going to put TNTLite on it as soon as I get home but would like a ROM with keyboard and mouse support (I don't know if all of them support wired or not).
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Congrats on your new tablet . I'm using. the VEGAn-Tab ROM.
Hoplon said:
Can you post a pic of what this actually looks like? I'd like a small bt keyboard with the emphasis on small since it's something that I wouldn't use all the time but wouldn't mind keeping in my case for when I do.
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Do not have it yet, but several pics in the eBay link I posted
I wanted something that fits in the Case Logic front zip pouch. I hope it also works with USB cable and not just blue tooth.
The keyboard below seems interesting, but would not fit in the pouch.
marianosf said:
I purchased this Gear Head USB Mini Touchpad keyboard from Fry's for $29.
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How do you like the size of the keyboard? I had a netbook I loved but sold because my bear paw hands couldn't deal with the mini keys.
Do you use the track pad often? I assumed I'd jut touch the screen when I needed to navigate.
I have an Apple keyboard I like and have been looking at this cheepo wire knock off.
I'm too n00b to post links I guess. dealextreme DOT com search for the sku "48597" - $18.60
@sharpfork . My keyboard keys are way smaller than a regular netbook's. If you look at the picture you can see that the trackpad takes away precious space. When I type I can feel my fingers too close together . I think I will return it and get one without the trackpad. Like you mentioned I can just touch the screen when navigating
The keyboard from dealextreme looks nice $$$, a black one would be perfect.
marianosf
i just ordered a well reviewed but cheepo keyboard from newegg. I'm still too n00b to post urls so search for SIIG JK-US0312-S1 Black USB Mini. I'll post some info when i get it. i might try to make some sort of case around it if time allows.
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I picked it up for $14.99 last night. The price is back up to $24.99 this morning.
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I got my Mini Me in. The device has a slightly smaller footprint to my Incredible (KB is taller, same width, but thinner depth than Incredible).
Good news:
For $18 delivered, it is a good build, light but sturdy, good key action and nice bluetooth range. It fits (and then some) in the Case Logic pouch and comes with a pouch, USB cable and stand. IMO, very good package product for the price.
Bad news:
It works with all devices I have tried except the Gtablet. The G sees it and a PIN window pops up and I enter "0000", but the devices fail to pair.
My guess is the this is due to me using TnT 2.40 and not Vegan.... correct?
Attached a pic that is a little dark and was upside down when I took it (hence the date is upside down). Servces the function though of showing size and KB layout. Nice keyboard, IMO. Fits perfect hold holding with two hands- easy to use thumbs to control games.
rushless, I like the KB as it looks perfect. It reminds me of my old xv6800 KB. Too bad it wont pair.
weedahoe said:
rushless, I like the KB as it looks perfect. It reminds me of my old xv6800 KB. Too bad it wont pair.
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If I knew the Vegan rom would work, I may try it, but really like the stability of TnT 2.4.... bluetooth or not.
rushless said:
Bad news:
It works with all devices I have tried except the Gtablet. The G sees it and a PIN window pops up and I enter "0000", but the devices fail to pair.
My guess is the this is due to me using TnT 2.40 and not Vegan.... correct?
Attached a pic that is a little dark and was upside down when I took it (hence the date is upside down). Servces the function though of showing size and KB layout. Nice keyboard, IMO. Fits perfect hold holding with two hands- easy to use thumbs to control games.
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You need to enter the pin on the keyboard then enter while it's trying to pair
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You need to enter the pin on the keyboard then enter while it's trying to pair
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I tried that with 0000 and 1234. At least I get the following message on the Gtablet when pressing "enter" on the micro keyboard "Paired but not connected"
Sad how something so basic does not work.
weedahoe said:
...reminds me of my old xv6800 KB....
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ahh that takes me back to my pre android-fight with the damned thing-and still didn't work days.. but i still kinda miss it..
back to our regularly scheduled program..
rushless said:
I tried that with 0000 and 1234. At least I get the following message on the Gtablet when pressing "enter" on the micro keyboard "Paired but not connected"
Sad how something so basic does not work.
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I got my BT board to work on tnt light (2.00) using the program BlueInput. I have installed the enable alternative keyboard mod, but it works without that by default once it paired and connected to "Blueinput". No mouse support though it see it and pairs with it... but tablet does not use it.
insight3fl said:
I got my BT board to work on tnt light (2.00) using the program BlueInput. I have installed the enable alternative keyboard mod, but it works without that by default once it paired and connected to "Blueinput". No mouse support though it see it and pairs with it... but tablet does not use it.
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Figures- that app is not showing in the market for the Gtablet.
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Hello i was wondering if anyone has installed their G-tab in their vehicle as a permanent or removable media center. I was curious if so how you went about it.
I drive a Infinti G35 Coupe and want to totally remove my cd player and integrate the gtab in the vertical position in the center console.
Here is a video of a vehicle that this was done to using the Ipad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwKnBz10sa0&feature=related
Anyone plz let me know.
Thanks!!!
Well first, you do not want to put it in vertically. The viewing angle will not really allow you to see it from the drivers deat. Its better horizontally. you need alot of space to instal this thing. Its wider than an ipad. The only problem is the ports. Power and audio need seperate cables. You can easily run the power from the battery, audio idk; but that custom dock in that video is crazy. I took mine and put it in a doc that attached to the car power jack but it didnt power it. Basically you need someone to fabricate a custom dock. Then worry about power and audio. But the custom roms do have a cool thing called car home. Helps alot. Add in a bluetooth gps and ur golden.
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hunterplatinum said:
Hello i was wondering if anyone has installed their G-tab in their vehicle as a permanent or removable media center. I was curious if so how you went about it.
I drive a Infinti G35 Coupe and want to totally remove my cd player and integrate the gtab in the vertical position in the center console.
Here is a video of a vehicle that this was done to using the Ipad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwKnBz10sa0&feature=related
Anyone plz let me know.
Thanks!!!
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I've started to do something similar with my Pandigital Novel in my Prius.
The way I see it, you have a few options. The first would to be to just get an auxiliary input for your current radio and a car charger for the g tablet. Then you could mount it and run the wire how ever you like. If you just simply use double sided tape or velcro like I did in my Prius, this would be the easiest option and would be very reversible.
If you want to get more involved you could look into doing the same thing but moving the stereo somewhere underneath the dash and make a custom mount to put the g tablet in it's place. This would obviously be much more involved.
In both cases, you would just set the radio to the auxiliary input, set it a a higher volume level, and then control the volume and media via the tablet. However, I see the g tablet's limited viewing angle being a huge problem in this setting. Combine that with the very reflective surface and bright day light, you may have a hard actually seeing the device. I would test mount it with some velcro for a day just to get the angle right.
Another thing that I've noticed while working with the Pandigital Novel is that when the power is plugged in, it outputs a very noticeable whine through the auxiliary cable. This may be because I was just testing it with the wall charger plugged into an inverter, I may have better luck with a car charger.
Best of luck, be sure to let us know if you can get the viewing angle right!
I'm currently working on something like that on my 1970 cutlass. You dont really need a stereo you can just connect it to any piece of $hit amp you find on craigslist. Any amp tends to get louder than the majority of stereos. Ill post some pictures when i finish.
Its funny i just saw this post today, i basically finished a custom bracket to use as a mount yesterday and plan to set my gtab into my car using it, just waiting on a part to be delivered to finnish it, ive already basically been using my gtab as a gps and to stream music to my car sterio using a fm transmitter, works like a charm.
When im done we will be able to use it as a gps using a bluetooth gps, and play mp3s via the fm transmitter, watch movies even. With the mount im making it will be possible to adjust the angle to minimize the limited viewing angles.
This gtab is the best value for money i have seen in a while
I was going to make this a separate thread but think it will do good here.
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this is the end result of me just walking around wal-mart and spending about 20 bux for some easy to use materials.. I am happy with the way it turned out.
more pix to come and a video is uploading to youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da6fHXvt_sg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuE5InzozEQ
Thanks everyone for replying back to me. I have actually decided to send my entire Dash off to SOUNDMAN so he can fabricate a fiberglass area for my gtab as i will be removing my stereo all together.
here is a video of what the final product should look like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSnIXfoSU6I
EVERYONE PLEASE KEEP POSTING ABOUT YOUR MODS! ALSO ANY VEHICLE MOUNTS THAT YOU GUYS ARE USING!
Wow, be sure to post pics when you get it back! Did he specify how you are going to connect the tablet to the rest of your audio system? It seems as though it would require some sort of hard core custom harness.
gator2k83, very nice job on that custom mount! I'm at work, but I'll take a look at the videos later. I'm very interested in what parts you used so I can look into building something similar...
I just walked around walmart it would have been better to use more wood then cardboard
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G-tab is too big and glossy for something like this. Even with a screen protector the glare is pretty bad. Better to use something like the Archos 5 Android tablet which will give you 500 GB storage space and a 4.3" screen. Was on sale at amazon for $240.
i am trying to avoid a small screen. I essentially want to end up with a very large integrated screen in my dash that looks and feels factory and a bit futuristic.
I know i am an optimist but i guess if i dont try i will always wonder lol.
@sanvara
Funny u mention that bc that's what I normally have in my dash is a archos 5 internet tablet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nN-8Hrf0sM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kUsui3-5Y0&NR=1
With the setup I have now I can use ether one. The archos 5 IT integrates into the dash for a more stock look but I wanted to have the choice for something a little bigger for road trips as I mostly drive @ night when going to see family.
These are two really good "factory" looking installs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oDy2ZU8xqc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUurMnuMkjQ
Yup thats exactly the look i am going for. i just want it to be stock-factory look.
I'm actually going to be doing the same thing in my truck (2003 Mercedes ML 500). I have a jabra cruiser bluetooth (w/ FM modulator) adapter that I use, so I stream music from my tablet while driving all the time, and sound quality is fairly good. Quality is actually comparable to fm radio, the volume is just a bit lower. Having the G-Tab set at 75% volume seemed to give me the best sound.
So I assume having a direct connection in opposed to FM modulation should help improve sound. (I could be wrong). My one setback is the my truck uses fiber optics for the sound/amp so I have to buy a converter which runs about $200.
My question would be are you completely replacing your cd player/headunit? what do you plan on doing for am/fm radio? Possibly you don't listen to it at all.
I'll posibly get a 4g mobile hotspot and put it in my truck, but do I really want to be streaming FM or AM radio and using bandwith for that?
Not sure on whether I'm going to use the G-Tab or use a galaxy tab or some other android tablet (preferably with a higher res screen) internal GPS would be nice, although I ordered the GSat bluetooth gps yesterday. Another point of contention for myself is that I already have a 15 in drop down tv in my truck, so I'd want my car tablet to have a port to run a video out cable to my tv. Can't do that w/ the GTab w/o a dock correct?
So these are some of the things that I have to think about before I install, this is even before constructing the mount, lol.
Some more issues/things to think about..
You'll probably want some sort of swing hitch like the guy in the ipad video, since the power button is on top. I control keys don't illuminate, so controls at night could be an issue. You'll probably want to run a USB cable from the Gtab to yourglove box, so that you could add media easier.
You have probably thought of these things already, but I figued that I'd at least voice some of them in case they slipped your mind.
Or so that some others here can help me and correct me, lol.
rayhova said:
I'm actually going to be doing the same thing in my truck (2003 Mercedes ML 500). I have a jabra cruiser bluetooth (w/ FM modulator) adapter that I use, so I stream music from my tablet while driving all the time, and sound quality is fairly good. Quality is actually comparable to fm radio, the volume is just a bit lower. Having the G-Tab set at 75% volume seemed to give me the best sound.
So I assume having a direct connection in opposed to FM modulation should help improve sound. (I could be wrong). My one setback is the my truck uses fiber optics for the sound/amp so I have to buy a converter which runs about $200.
My question would be are you completely replacing your cd player/headunit? what do you plan on doing for am/fm radio? Possibly you don't listen to it at all.
I'll posibly get a 4g mobile hotspot and put it in my truck, but do I really want to be streaming FM or AM radio and using bandwith for that?
Not sure on whether I'm going to use the G-Tab or use a galaxy tab or some other android tablet (preferably with a higher res screen) internal GPS would be nice, although I ordered the GSat bluetooth gps yesterday. Another point of contention for myself is that I already have a 15 in drop down tv in my truck, so I'd want my car tablet to have a port to run a video out cable to my tv. Can't do that w/ the GTab w/o a dock correct?
So these are some of the things that I have to think about before I install, this is even before constructing the mount, lol.
Some more issues/things to think about..
You'll probably want some sort of swing hitch like the guy in the ipad video, since the power button is on top. I control keys don't illuminate, so controls at night could be an issue. You'll probably want to run a USB cable from the Gtab to yourglove box, so that you could add media easier.
You have probably thought of these things already, but I figued that I'd at least voice some of them in case they slipped your mind.
Or so that some others here can help me and correct me, lol.
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I actually plan on extending the power button to a different location so that way i dont have to worry about permanently mounting the tablet. I also did purchase the BT Gsat adapter for the gps and i rarely listen to fm radio, but a fm antenna adapter can fix that or simple streaming using my phone as a hotspot.
As for additional storage access, i was actually planing on having a usb hub within my center console.
Anyone ever try one of these cheap BT keyboards from ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-Wireless-B...cessories&hash=item20b9fefac8#ht_10638wt_1139
There's tons of them.
It appears to be smaller than the phone in the picture. I cannot see what advantage it would provide.
SirhanSirhan said:
It appears to be smaller than the phone in the picture. I cannot see what advantage it would provide.
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That thing in the background is actually the front of a laptop, I think. But here's another one, with a hand in the pic for size reference:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wireless-Mini-B...Trackballs&hash=item2c5d194867#ht_6608wt_1139
But as to what advantage it would provide:
1st of all, I type MUCH faster on a tactile keyboard (as most people do in reality).
2nd- tablet can be propped up on a stand and still enter test comfortably (I've found it difficult to type on a vertical screen, and placing it horizontally on my lap for a long message can negatively effect the viewing angle)
3rd- can be used remotely or when hands are dirty (think- kitchen / cooking / recipe tablet).
4th- console gaming. Nothing beats buttons for emulators.
I like that it is so portable, otherwise a full sized case + KB sort of approaches the size of a netbook which almost defeats the purpose of having this.
What I really wanted to know if these are just poor build quality or really uncomfortable to type on (I LOVED my touch pro 2 keypad, which this reminds me of, but not all kbs are created equal).
Additionally, there are other shapes and sizes, all around the same price on ebay. Seem to come from similar sellers, probably manufactured in one plant. Here's something more full sized:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wireless-Blueto...ccessories&hash=item2311642184#ht_3553wt_1139
I can't really offer any insight to answer your question, as I have no experience with these one way or another... but I am quite interested in the answer. If you end up going this route and trying it, please post back here with the results... I'd be interested in a product like this, but build quality would also be a primary concern for me.
I ordered this keyboard from Amazon about a month ago, works great with both my GTab running Vegan 5.1.1 and my rooted EVO.
I apparently can't post links because I'm new, but search amazon for this:
Handheld Mini Bluetooth HID Wireless Chicklet Keyboard with Mouse Control Combo for Media Center PC, Windows 7/Vista/XP, Apple iPad & Sony PS3
It's like $35 and well worth it, I wrote a whole 5 page paper with it, pretty slick
toreyjh said:
I ordered this keyboard from Amazon about a month ago, works great with both my GTab running Vegan 5.1.1 and my rooted EVO.
I apparently can't post links because I'm new, but search amazon for this:
Handheld Mini Bluetooth HID Wireless Chicklet Keyboard with Mouse Control Combo for Media Center PC, Windows 7/Vista/XP, Apple iPad & Sony PS3
It's like $35 and well worth it, I wrote a whole 5 page paper with it, pretty slick
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Here you are.
How comfy is it being used as a desktop keyboard not as a thumb keyboard ?
Thanks
update: looks too small for touch typing (as noted in amazon reviews). So I like the caps lock led (not available on any other slim BT keyboard I have checked)
Also note that Android does not support the Bluetooth HID profile (looks like the underlying stack supports it since 2.1 or 2.2 but there's nothing in the ROM).
There's a free apk that might work "bluetooth easyconnect".
I've been edging around a semi expensive ~20USD apk that definitely works with my iGo BT keyboard, but they lock to phone ID and, on the gtab, that changes when you change ROMs...
toreyjh said:
I ordered this keyboard from Amazon about a month ago, works great with both my GTab running Vegan 5.1.1 and my rooted EVO.
I apparently can't post links because I'm new, but search amazon for this:
Handheld Mini Bluetooth HID Wireless Chicklet Keyboard with Mouse Control Combo for Media Center PC, Windows 7/Vista/XP, Apple iPad & Sony PS3
It's like $35 and well worth it, I wrote a whole 5 page paper with it, pretty slick
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I bought the bt keyboard that aasoror linked to. I got it to pair but it never connected, I even downloaded bluetooth keyboard easy connect but it would not let me pick the keyboard in the drop down menu. What is supposed to be the pin to help me get this working with my g-tab?
I am using Vegan GE 7.0. Thanks for any help you or anyone else can provide.
Oh, it never occurred to me that we would be missing the HID profile in bluetooth!
I just assumed if the iPad does it, certainly Android has it built in (thinking back to A2DP and other stuff Android supported first).
That really stinks- are BT keyboards not an option??
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I bought the bt keyboard that aasoror linked to.
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And how did you like it ? is it good for touch typing ?
I got it to pair but it never connected
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Have you tried the trick here.
Dishe said:
That really stinks- are BT keyboards not an option??
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There is plenty of BT KB's running on the GTab, just look around.
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And how did you like it ? is it good for touch typing ?
Have you tried the trick here.
There is plenty of BT KB's running on the GTab, just look around.
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I got it to work
I like it because its wireless and doesn't need a usb dongle or anything, but its hard to type on it for than a few minutes. Obviously it is a lot better than typing on the GTab but I wish it were smaller or bigger (small enough to thumb type, or big enough that it wasn't cramped and getting tiresome typing with both hands and all my fingers.)
I already had a Rii Mini Wireless keyboard from before so I thought, hell it couldn't hurt to give it a try on my GTab. And it works! Even the touchpad! I would rather use that because it is smaller (thus more portable) and it has backlighting on it. I could type in the dark! Of course there is a Bluetooth version for the Rii Mini as well (around $40), but I think I have spent enough money on keyboards for my GTab lol.
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I got it to work
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You didn't say how ?
imdaman99 said:
I wish it were smaller or bigger (small enough to thumb type, or big enough that it wasn't cramped and getting tiresome typing with both hands and all my fingers.)
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I am now thinking about a little bigger keyboard, seems suitable for touch typing.
I bought a BT keyboard off ebay for 19$ and it will not connect at all with my GTab. It will not connect w my samsung fascinate android either but will connect w my Ps3 and my ipod. Go figure.
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I've seen so many people just obsessed with getting the external keyboard. Basically turns the tablet into an Android laptop. I have several laptops in my home and the last thing I would want to add to my tablet is a keyboard. The IPS touch screen is capable of a 10 finger process and is very easy to use with your fingers, the way it was intended. Why is there such a big thing about having a keyboard for a tablet? I really thought the whole idea of getting a touch screen was to eliminate input devices and use the touch screen. Also, if you wanted a keyboard with your tablet why didn't you buy a laptop instead, since for $500-$600 you could have gotten a fairly decent one. I'm just curious, that's all.
Have you tried doing any long-form typing with an on-screen keyboard? It's unpleasant, to say the least. Also, the extra 6 hours of battery life doesn't hurt.
opentoe said:
I've seen so many people just obsessed with getting the external keyboard. Basically turns the tablet into an Android laptop. I have several laptops in my home and the last thing I would want to add to my tablet is a keyboard. The IPS touch screen is capable of a 10 finger process and is very easy to use with your fingers, the way it was intended. Why is there such a big thing about having a keyboard for a tablet? I really thought the whole idea of getting a touch screen was to eliminate input devices and use the touch screen. Also, if you wanted a keyboard with your tablet why didn't you buy a laptop instead, since for $500-$600 you could have gotten a fairly decent one. I'm just curious, that's all.
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I wanted the dock for a few reasons.
1. It gives me a tablet then I can turn into a laptop for typing things like this faster and easier.
2. Let's me have a tablet and not have to worry about the keyboard when I don't need or want the dock.
All in all I think the dock was worth what was paid for it. It makes this tablet more than just a tablet. And once we get an unlocked bootloader hopefully someone will port some sort of linux flavor onto here so I can dualboot and have a true laptop if I need to.
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opentoe said:
I've seen so many people just obsessed with getting the external keyboard. Basically turns the tablet into an Android laptop. I have several laptops in my home and the last thing I would want to add to my tablet is a keyboard. The IPS touch screen is capable of a 10 finger process and is very easy to use with your fingers, the way it was intended. Why is there such a big thing about having a keyboard for a tablet? I really thought the whole idea of getting a touch screen was to eliminate input devices and use the touch screen. Also, if you wanted a keyboard with your tablet why didn't you buy a laptop instead, since for $500-$600 you could have gotten a fairly decent one. I'm just curious, that's all.
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I actually agree with you (and am thinking of selling my keyboard - couldn't buy it without it). However: (1) the tablet and keyboard together are still tiny and light (2) they are much more functional for things involving typing than just the tablet (3) for $500 to $600 you would never have got something this portable with such a battery life.
The keyboard is not for all (eg you) but I can easily see the point of it.
1. Sometimes having a keyboard us just nice. This is especially true when you need to input a large amount on information.
2. Clamshell design protects the screen.
3. Battery extender
4. USB port for peripherals.
5. Standard size SD card for easier compatibility with things like digital cameras. For example, take a high speed sdcard from a DSLR and use Photoshop touch to quickly edit and from there you can use the hdmi to project onto a flat panel.
6. Keyboard dock + wireless usb mouse + RDP client = win.
if you can't see the benefit, maybe the transformer isn't for you
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I've seen so many people just obsessed with getting the external keyboard. Basically turns the tablet into an Android laptop. I have several laptops in my home and the last thing I would want to add to my tablet is a keyboard. The IPS touch screen is capable of a 10 finger process and is very easy to use with your fingers, the way it was intended. Why is there such a big thing about having a keyboard for a tablet? I really thought the whole idea of getting a touch screen was to eliminate input devices and use the touch screen. Also, if you wanted a keyboard with your tablet why didn't you buy a laptop instead, since for $500-$600 you could have gotten a fairly decent one. I'm just curious, that's all.
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accessing main pc using splashtop is much easier with a keyboard and mouse
substitute for my netbook that has gone to Thailand with my daughter
do not have a laptop and I wanted a tablet
laptops do not let me take the screen off and read in bed
difficult to sit on the sofa with a laptop
cannot afford a tablet and a laptop
Laptops are not as portable as a tablet and it I do not want to take a laptop with me at times.
How many laptops would give me such good battery life (mine will do over 16 hours with dock) in such a sweet package...Me I like the versatility of the little beast
It also works as an effin good cover when it is docked.
Oh!.......... and the look on peeps faces when you remove the screen from yer little netbook and start using it as a tablet.
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Have to say I was surprised to see this question. The most attractive part of the keyboard is the extended battery life. The sd card slot adds options for additional storage at hand, which is great if you don't have the best internet connection available. I use mine for videos and movies that i don't want cluttering up my micro SD. The USB port is great to for attaching a ps3 controller for gaming instead of going out to buy a new controller.
Added features aside, There have been many occasions when the on screen keyboard just didn't cut it. Its nice for short stuff (like this) but when im taking notes while someone is talking or trying to plan out something major it nice to have a keyboard. Why not just use a laptop? Well for one, tablets are a helluva lot more portable. The program access speed is also beyond compare, which is the whole reason to get a tablet in the first place.
It's really hard to get away with asking why get a tablet with a keyboard vs getting a laptop because its like comparing apple to pc.
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se1000 said:
1. Sometimes having a keyboard us just nice. This is especially true when you need to input a large amount on information.
2. Clamshell design protects the screen.
3. Battery extender
4. USB port for peripherals.
5. Standard size SD card for easier compatibility with things like digital cameras. For example, take a high speed sdcard from a DSLR and use Photoshop touch to quickly edit and from there you can use the hdmi to project onto a flat panel.
6. Keyboard dock + wireless usb mouse + RDP client = win.
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Everything this guy said.
Actually I had the same thought about just having a tablet..let alone with a keyboard. mostly this is because a laptop can do everything the tablet does and more.
Tablets are all about form factor and convenience. Thin, light, fun...instant on...probably 3-4x battery life...more with the dock.
When I go to work I bring my laptop...the tablet is of limited use.
When I am relaxing at home or on vacation I would much rather the tablet.
The keyboard is nice for the reasons stated previously...but there is something to be said for the combined touch screen and keyboard browsing experience.
I am excited to see what windows 8 will bring to the table combined with a tablet like the tf201. Devices like these may one day replace laptops...especially netbooks.
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Also, compared to something like an ultrabook, you give up processing power, but you gain convenience. Android is a much better platform for a touch interface and the apps and widgets reflect this as well. Lastly, you can't rip the screen off of an ultrabook and use it as a tablet.
this is the biggest waste of thread ever. until you LIVE with the dock for a week you will now what the hype is all about
until then is useless for us to tell you what is like..
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easy answer. the appeal of this tablet IS the keyboard.
its what makes it different from all the other tablets out there. think about it. there are a lot of 10" tablets with more being announced all the time so the product needs something to differentiate it from others.
1. it's the first quad core tablet
2. it's the first tablet to run ICS
3. it's got a fully functional dock.
but other tablets have keyboards I hear you cry. yeah, but not like this one. with a usb slot, sd slot and a tight functioning hinge to turn the tablet into a laptop.
anyone can get a standalone keyboard for a tablet, but now you have to faff about with stands, having somewhere to lay it all out to use it. you don't need to with the prime, it clicks together into a single unit so you can use it properly on your lap, out and about.
I could have bought a lot of different tablets, I waited for this one because it is, as I see it, a convergence device.
it can do media, it can do music, it can do video. but when I want it to, it can be more than that, thanks to the dock.
If I wanted a device for gaming and media and internet? I would not need a keyboard and I would have likely bought an iPad 2, which is a better device for all of those three activities.
But keyboard is what makes not only Transformer Prime worth it for me, but in fact makes a tablet worth it for me. The 'added benefits' of a keyboard are obviously the additional USB and SD options as well as added battery life, which easily makes it possible to use the device throughout the day actively without any worry about battery no matter what you are doing.
But the real benefit of keyboard dock is, of course, the keyboard itself. Android keyboard is really well done, the buttons are not just a modifications of a PC keyboard, but make sense. The old F1-F12 is replaced with much more accurate Android-specific buttons and it is all around a great Android keyboard. But really, keyboard is great for typing. It is really good for meetings and schoolwork in ways where touch keyboard is not just inadequate but simply bad, since with touch keyboard you have to look at the keyboard while typing (and if you're a fast keyboard typer you know you never really do that).
To sum things up, without the keyboard I would not own TF201, in fact I would not own a tablet at all. It replaces all of my netbook needs. Having and maintaining more than three devices is a clutter for me. I do my work at my desktop computer or mostly stationary work laptop, I use my Android phone for on-the-go internet, texting and gaming and Transformer Prime as both content-consumption device and entertainment as well as light work and meetings/lectures.
OP is short sighted and missing the point.
The keyboard is an accessory. It turns the prime into a workable laptop, WHEN YOU WANT IT TO.
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I might even go so far to call this a poor trolling attempt.
Tablet alone is great for reading or watching stuff. As soon as I want to do any text entry beyond tying in an URL, I start wanting the keyboard.
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Tablet alone is great for reading or watching stuff. As soon as I want to do any text entry beyond tying in an URL, I start wanting the keyboard.
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opentoe said:
I've seen so many people just obsessed with getting the external keyboard. Basically turns the tablet into an Android ultrabook. I have several laptops in my home and the last thing I would want to add to my tablet is a keyboard. The IPS touch screen is capable of a 10 finger process and is very easy to use with your fingers, the way it was intended. Why is there such a big thing about having a keyboard for a tablet? I really thought the whole idea of getting a touch screen was to eliminate input devices and use the touch screen. Also, if you wanted a keyboard with your tablet why didn't you buy a laptop instead, since for $500-$600 you could have gotten a fairly decent one. I'm just curious, that's all.
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The Transformer Prime is incomplete without it's keyboard dock.
If you ever want to see the Prime's full potential you have to get the keyboard dock.
Only then will you reach Prime Perfection.
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OK, another take on this. See I'm not and never was a fan of the Transformers, but I was a huge fan of the MMPR, which use mechs just like the Transformers. So when I see the Transformer Prime tablet by itself, I think of it as being a single Zord, with myself in command as I own it.
I call upon it when I have to duke it out with other tablet foes (iPad, Galaxy Tab, Playbook).
But when the situation gets tough I kick it into high gear and call on the keyboard dock that combines with the Prime Zord to form the mighty Mega Prime Zord.
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Well... I was hoping this case would revert my perspective of the Note 12.2 as a useable device.
First things first. The overall Keyboard functionality is good nice travel within the keys. I like the keys for cut and paste etc. My huge beef is the thing does not support the screen on and off functionality when the cover opens or closes. Now to my second issue, the screen and keyboard contact when closed. Though Logitech has bumpers to raise the keyboard it still makes contact with the screen when closed with little to no pressure.
Back to my earlier comment on the device itself. It is beautiful and I love the additional real-estate over my "original Note 10.1". However the performance is a disappointment and though I really like the new features I just can't justify 1k with accessories for an under preforming device. I am honestly surprised that my Note 10.1 (first Edition) has almost the same performance. I was really hoping the keyboard aspect would encourage me to keep it... for now I think its going back.
I would note the concept of a keyboard would be uber cool if it had a trackpad or mouse/nub. I realize its not a notebook but...
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/pro?wt.mc_id=global_news_pro
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Well... I was hoping this case would revert my perspective of the Note 12.2 as a useable device.
First things first. The overall Keyboard functionality is good nice travel within the keys. I like the keys for cut and paste etc. My huge beef is the thing does not support the screen on and off functionality when the cover opens or closes. Now to my second issue, the screen and keyboard contact when closed. Though Logitech has bumpers to raise the keyboard it still makes contact with the screen when closed with little to no pressure.
Back to my earlier comment on the device itself. It is beautiful and I love the additional real-estate over my "original Note 10.1". However the performance is a disappointment and though I really like the new features I just can't justify 1k with accessories for an under preforming device. I am honestly surprised that my Note 10.1 (first Edition) has almost the same performance. I was really hoping the keyboard aspect would encourage me to keep it... for now I think its going back.
I would note the concept of a keyboard would be uber cool if it had a trackpad or mouse/nub. I realize its not a notebook but...
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/pro?wt.mc_id=global_news_pro
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I noticed the screen touching as well as the loss of powering on and off when opened/closed. However, for me the keyboard has allowed me to use a RDP for our works server. Usually I had to use the on screen keyboard within the servers app. Now with the logitech, and a magic mouse connected at the same time, I can have a laptop type of device, or pop it back in to the regular samsung cover for travel/tablet time.
I was thinking of little pieces of felt on the keyboard where it touches. Little extra support. Over all, the keyboards added functions out weigh the loss of the on/off feature for me.
The keys are the best I have ever used on a bluetooth keyboard. If it had an integrated mouse pad, it would most likely need the usb dongle/receiver plugged in to a usb port....
I am loving the flexibility of this tab and accessories personally. I have to force myself to use the macbook just to keep away from the tablet!
I just got my Logitech today. My keys don't touch my screen at all. Yeah an auto on/off would have been a nice feature but not a biggie for me. You can turn it on by hitting the Home button on the keyboard. You can turn it off with FN - DEL keys. I was using the ZAGG but this is 1000 times better.
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I just got my Logitech today. My keys don't touch my screen at all. Yeah an auto on/off would have been a nice feature but not a biggie for me. You can turn it on by hitting the Home button on the keyboard. You can turn it off with FN - DEL keys. I was using the ZAGG but this is 1000 times better.
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Not sure about the other poster, but it's not the keys where mine touches (?). It's around the home button area. Ya, the on off with the keys is awesome. I like how the music key opens play music.
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We all would love some pic from the people who already received the case and some feedback after using for couple days. I have been reaching for someone to give a good video or photo review because I am thinking of getting one anytime soon.
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Got mine today. Like it so far. It is late now but I can post some photos and more thoughts on it tomorrow if nobody else beats me to it.
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Got mine today. Like it so far. It is late now but I can post some photos and more thoughts on it tomorrow if nobody else beats me to it.
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I love it so far. You can wake your tablet by pressing a key and shut it off using FN-DEL keys. So far I just wish I could program the shortcut keys. Email shortcut brings up GMail but I use Exchange Email 99% of the time so I need the stock Email app instead.
Question for the one who already received it. Can you type in different languages? such as arabic or any other language? I know the keyboard comes only with English litter printed on the keyboard, but can you test that for me please and post a pic for the result? It will be much appreciated. I speak 2 language so I have to use arabic and English in my line of work. Just wounder if I can do that in the keyboard
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Regarding the performance complaints... I think most the issue is two fold... Expectations and Google Chrome. First of all I think we all expected a screaming fast and lag free experience. The fact is that this tablet is screaming fast however Samsung has continue to bloat it up so their is still some lag in the GUI. Frankly I think the lag is over exaggerated and too many make a big deal out of it. I've ran many AOSP roms on my Nexus 10 and S4, no lag at all but less functionality. I'll take multi-window functionality any day over zero lag. Would love both but it's just not an option right now... Second performance issue is that Google Chrome appears to lack some serious optimizations for this tablet. How and why this is beats me but Chrome is scrolling is disturbingly laggy. On the other hand Chrome beta is much better so hopefully we see these optimizations is Chome stable release soon. Until then I'm using beta. If you don't care about Chrome syncing then the built in browser is really fast but Chrome beta addresses 60-70% of the Chrome performance issues. Page loading is fast but still not as fast as the built in browser. Google has stated that they are committed to Chrome performance improvements in 2014 and I think beta is already showing this.
I have some apps that do some serious number crunching and can tell you think absolutely smoke my Nexus 10 in raw performance so I think things will only get better with software optimizations.
On another note I rooted my Note 12.2 yesterday and can't express how much better it is now with a few tweaks.
Root Tweaks...
270 DPI
Chrome User Agent - Chrome Desktop
Titanium Backup - freeze unnecessary apps
Enable additional apps for mutli-windows (Chrome beta most importantly)
LMT launcher for swipe home, back, recents, menu, etc...
Non root tweak-
Apex Launcher
Overall really happy with this tablet now. Was considering the Logitech keyboard but not sure now although I don't think the auto sleep when closed complaint is a big deal...
Does anyone else have this keyboard? I am debating replacing my 10.1 2014 with the 12.2 for the extra screen real estate and the fact there is a Logitech keyboard for it. If the keyboard case is great, it almost makes the upgrade a no-brainer. If the keyboard sucks, I think I am out.
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Does anyone else have this keyboard? I am debating replacing my 10.1 2014 with the 12.2 for the extra screen real estate and the fact there is a Logitech keyboard for it. If the keyboard case is great, it almost makes the upgrade a no-brainer. If the keyboard sucks, I think I am out.
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Best Buy salesman talked me into buying one, he said it has a 15 day return window, so I thought why not. I'm liking it so far. Only have 2 concerns.
1) With the case closed, I have noticed that while i'm caring it, the tablet can slide off the rubber bumpers on the keyboard and allow the screen to touch the keys. This will cause the tablet to turn on unless you turn the keyboard power switch off.
2) I don't like the feel of the material on the outside of the case. The majority of it is nylon (or something similar) and it is a little slick. I'm afraid its going to slide out of my hands. Would be better if it was leather or even fake leather.
juat gor mine too from best buy. i agree with you about the 2 point. they keyboard will slied off. I like the keyboard and it is really great but I might need to get a screen protecter for it since it will slide all the time and the only reason I bought the device in the first place is so I can take the device with me anywhere insted of my laptop.
also I noticed that switching between 2 language is not functioning as it suppost to be. it will show that you switched the language but it will only type in english unless you go to setting and switch it from there. so anytime you want to type in any language and switch in between you need to go to the setting all the time.
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just a follow up to my comment above, I actualy have been looking around with the keyboard and found that by holding the Ctrl and prissing space it will change the language for you if you are using 2 different language on the keyboard.
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Regarding the performance complaints... I think most the issue is two fold... Expectations and Google Chrome. First of all I think we all expected a screaming fast and lag free experience. The fact is that this tablet is screaming fast however Samsung has continue to bloat it up so their is still some lag in the GUI. Frankly I think the lag is over exaggerated and too many make a big deal out of it. I've ran many AOSP roms on my Nexus 10 and S4, no lag at all but less functionality. I'll take multi-window functionality any day over zero lag. Would love both but it's just not an option right now... Second performance issue is that Google Chrome appears to lack some serious optimizations for this tablet. How and why this is beats me but Chrome is scrolling is disturbingly laggy. On the other hand Chrome beta is much better so hopefully we see these optimizations is Chome stable release soon. Until then I'm using beta. If you don't care about Chrome syncing then the built in browser is really fast but Chrome beta addresses 60-70% of the Chrome performance issues. Page loading is fast but still not as fast as the built in browser. Google has stated that they are committed to Chrome performance improvements in 2014 and I think beta is already showing this.
I have some apps that do some serious number crunching and can tell you think absolutely smoke my Nexus 10 in raw performance so I think things will only get better with software optimizations.
On another note I rooted my Note 12.2 yesterday and can't express how much better it is now with a few tweaks.
Root Tweaks...
270 DPI
Chrome User Agent - Chrome Desktop
Titanium Backup - freeze unnecessary apps
Enable additional apps for mutli-windows (Chrome beta most importantly)
LMT launcher for swipe home, back, recents, menu, etc...
Non root tweak-
Apex Launcher
Overall really happy with this tablet now. Was considering the Logitech keyboard but not sure now although I don't think the auto sleep when closed complaint is a big deal...
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Can you be specific about what you froze ?
I want to keep all of the S-pen stuff and and air-command(i think it is called like this..) and multi split.
But i want to disable all of the knox stuff and the flipboard style stuff since it doesn't auto refresh anyway.
Why would you change the dpi ?
I tried the logitech keyboard case, but to me the case put the tablet too close to the keyboard. I prefer a bit more space between the two. And it made the package too thick for my liking.
So instead I've opted for a regular neoprene 13.3" laptop sleeve (which can also hold my Wacom pen and a cleaning cloth), with this as my keyboard: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/bluetooth-illuminated-keyboard-k810 and this as my stand: http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F5L084/ When I need to carry it all, everything fits inside the sleeve (with the cloth between the keyboard and the tablet's back)
Works perfectly, and it's so much more free. I can now put the tab on a table or nightstand whilst keeping the keyboard on my lap whilst I'm sitting on the sofa or bed.
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just a follow up to my comment above, I actualy have been looking around with the keyboard and found that by holding the Ctrl and prissing space it will change the language for you if you are using 2 different language on the keyboard.
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This saved me for returning the otherwise perfect case keyboard. It is very weird no one else mentioned this particular.
I ended up selling mine on swappa. Where the corner pops in to the case, right by the spen, the Logitech was taking some of the chrome finish of the tablet. I opted for the Samsung Keyboard case and couldn't be happier with it when using and closed.
l did like the feel of the Logitech keys slightly better however, but the Sammy one works great.
I bought the Tab S4 yesterday August 10th at Best Buy in Chicago (or its suburb to be more precise) and bought the Keyboard Cover since they have a deal on it for $80 with the 64GB tablet purchase.
Review:
Having just recently purchased the Tab S3 (I have a tech obsession problem) with its companion keyboard cover, I can compare them. For whatever reason, the Tab S3 keyboard cover is better all around, from attachment method to way you use it. This one is just terrible on every front.
Pros:
-Activates Dex mode
-The keys are responsive.
Cons:
-The way the tablet fits into this cover via snapping into a holder. I liked the magnetic setup of the Tab S3's type cover
-While it is clearly a slightly larger cover than the Tab S3, it feels 50% to 100% heavier. When the tablet itself is only about 10% heavier than the Tab S3's Tablet.
-The wrist rest terminates into a hard rounded ridge, so it feels like you're typing in a well. Where on the Tab S3 there is about an inch of rest there.
-Given the black color, and wider border on the sides of the keyboard, it makes it feel more cramped than the Tab S3 though they're the exact same size.
-Just like with the Tab S3, I wished there were secondary functions and a FN key, instead we get a lang and keyboard key.
-Because this doesn't have a home button and there isn't a shortcut I found to act as a home key, you have to swipe up on the screen to hit home (if you hide your navigation keys). Not the best.
-The texture on the case itself feels gross, cheap, and rubbery. So YAY, it won't slide around, but the soft touch feel of the Tab S3 cover feels better and more premium.
-There's a cutout for the camera, the Tab S3 covers its up. Living in a dusty environment, it just means its a nice new well for dust to get trapped in.
Conclusion:
They could have done better. I'd get rid of the ridge in the front since it hits the fat of your hand at a sharp and awkward angle, and I bet that would make this infinitely better.
appreciate the review.
in addition to all your points, i wish it also had more than a single angle.
Is it a good every day case? I have a Tab S2 (8") and the official case (the one that snaps into the holes on the back of the tablet).
Most if the time I'll be using the tablet out of Dex mode. When folded behind the tablet does the keyboard get in the way? Should I buy another non keyboard case for every day use?
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Is it a good every day case? I have a Tab S2 (8") and the official case (the one that snaps into the holes on the back of the tablet).
Most if the time I'll be using the tablet out of Dex mode. When folded behind the tablet does the keyboard get in the way? Should I buy another non keyboard case for every day use?
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Yeah, you do have a good point, but there are lighter options out there. Being able to literally compare both the Tab S4's keyboard case and the Tab S3's side to side is what made me annoyed with this years take on the keyboard case, especially since they really hit it out of the park with last year's.
I wish the keyboard case had an easy way to open and just lay flat. It appears it will lay flat but have the keyboard exposed on the bottom, or you can rotate slightly to lay flat with the keyboard protected under the tablet but several rows of keys are still exposed. I liked the way the S3 cover had several angles including one that had the device lay flat for reading.
Glad I'm Getting mine free through Samsung. Doesn't sound worth the price
The keyboard cover sucks IMO. I ordered an $8 magnet case and will be using my faithful old Logitech K480 for my typing needs.
without a touchpad this is a non starter for me.
I wrote a critical review on the Samsung store website. I wonder if it will make it past moderation.
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I wrote a critical review on the Samsung store website. I wonder if it will make it past moderation.
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The pen snaps into the holder if you put it in tip first, if it doesn't click it will fall out, but it extremely safe when snapped in. Dont have keyboard version, but same holder on book cover(nice case btw)
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The pen snaps into the holder if you put it in tip first, if it doesn't click it will fall out, but it extremely safe when snapped in. Dont have keyboard version, but same holder on book cover(nice case btw)
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That's weird. My pen clicks in on the keyboard cover. Yes, it requires some pressure but then it just makes a nice audible "click" and I doubt it will just fall out by itself.
Yes exactly. That's what I'm saying
Thanks for the review OP. I was thinking of getting the samsung keyboard cover. but after spending a $1000 for my tab s4 256 lte Korean version. I checked my old gadgets box and I found my foldable bluetooth keyboard+trackpad. It worked just fine! easy to carry. works with Dex too!
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Yeah, you do have a good point, but there are lighter options out there. Being able to literally compare both the Tab S4's keyboard case and the Tab S3's side to side is what made me annoyed with this years take on the keyboard case, especially since they really hit it out of the park with last year's.
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I hope I like the Tab S4's keyboard cover when it arrives more than you do.
I have a Tab S3 with keyboard cover and, although its keyboard has great action, it also has many shortcomings: no camera cut-out in the moulding, no proper place for the pen, no closed cover detection by the tablet, and so on.
Samsung has yet to "hit it out of the park" with these covers. Even if they had designed it perfectly, the accompanying price tag is absurd. The only way the keyboard cover made sense on the Tab S3 and now again on the Tab S4 is as a freebie with a pre-ordered tablet, which is how I've done it both times. As much as I like the keyboard in use, I certainly wouldn't dream of paying €150 for it.
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-Because this doesn't have a home button and there isn't a shortcut I found to act as a home key, you have to swipe up on the screen to hit home (if you hide your navigation keys). Not the best.
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Just a quick note here - there is a shortcut for home. It's listed as Meta + Enter in the settings. It took me quite a while to figure out that Meta is the search key right next to Ctrl on keyboard cover, but it works like a charm. There's couple other shortcuts (for back, for displaying notifications), and there's a shortcut for displaying shortcuts, Meta + / (otherwise, the list is buried deep in the settings under physical keyboard). Note that this is context sensitive - the shortcut list is a bit different in Dex mode and it also shows applications shortcuts in certain applications like Chrome.
The only thing I am missing is the ability to change the shortcuts mappings/create my own.
Have the free keyboards started to arrive in the UK?
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Have the free keyboards started to arrive in the UK?
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Still waiting for mine but it has now moved up to processed
Sold mine, pretty useless for a $150 cover esp. since it doesn't wake the tablet or have a touchpad for true dex mode. Got a K480 and bluetooth mouse combo for $20 that works way better for DeX.
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Just a quick note here - there is a shortcut for home. It's listed as Meta + Enter in the settings. It took me quite a while to figure out that Meta is the search key right next to Ctrl on keyboard cover, but it works like a charm. There's couple other shortcuts (for back, for displaying notifications), and there's a shortcut for displaying shortcuts, Meta + / (otherwise, the list is buried deep in the settings under physical keyboard). Note that this is context sensitive - the shortcut list is a bit different in Dex mode and it also shows applications shortcuts in certain applications like Chrome.
The only thing I am missing is the ability to change the shortcuts mappings/create my own.
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I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to use the keyboard (not in Dex mode). For example, If I try to type a question mark, it should be Shift+6 I would think, but I get a ^ like a regular keyboard. I've tried every combination of shift, control, search key (Meta), alt, Alt Gr etc with 6 but there is no way I can produce a ?. Some of the other keys work with the shift key but some do not.
I haven't been able to find any explanations or instructions other than the small pop-up screen in the keyboard settings. I'd appreciate any pointers as to where I can find the instructions.
khocking said:
I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to use the keyboard (not in Dex mode). For example, If I try to type a question mark, it should be Shift+6 I would think, but I get a ^ like a regular keyboard. I've tried every combination of shift, control, search key (Meta), alt, Alt Gr etc with 6 but there is no way I can produce a ?. Some of the other keys work with the shift key but some do not.
I haven't been able to find any explanations or instructions other than the small pop-up screen in the keyboard settings. I'd appreciate any pointers as to where I can find the instructions.
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Why would Shift+6 be question mark? It's '^' on mine. Did you somehow managed get French version of the keyboard or something? Mine has standard US layout as seen in the attachment here:
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And yes, using different keyboard layout is kind of tricky - you first have to have it add it for on-screen keyboard (General Management -> On-screen keyboard -> Samunsung Keyboard -> Manage Input Languages) and then you can configure it for keyboard cover (General Management -> Physical Keyboard -> (choose your language) -> (choose layout) . Plus it's very limited, I'd like to use different layout for my 2nd language keyboard but can't do that.