I used SuperOneClickv1.5.5-ShortFuse @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
And it worked for rooting my TELUS Fasinate with the JL3 Froyo leak! Worked like a charm! Thanks to CLShortFuse!
Gonna try right now...wish me luck!
EDIT! WORKS!!!! I HAVE SU!! Didn't do anything exect follow the steps on the video! Click start and your phone will be rooted!
I wonder if we need to install busybox? I'll search the one-click thread and see if we need it.
Hmmm...Dave are you having any problems with root access? I installed rom manager and clockwork, but it won't boot into custom recovery, it says "signature verification failed", so no clockwork, also, I have root explorer, and I moved a bunch of bloat to a junk folder on the internal sd card, but they are still in the system/app folder! Even if i choose delete, root explorer will delete the app but as soon as you refresh the folder they are still there...
EDIT: Figured out ROOT EXPLORER problem, just had to close and restart ROOT EXPLORER, and now my bloat is moved to a junk folder in the sd card!! ALso I was able to disable the stupid boot and shutdown sounds!
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Hmmm...Dave are you having any problems with root access? I installed rom manager and clockwork, but it won't boot into custom recovery, it says "signature verification failed", so no clockwork, also, I have root explorer, and I moved a bunch of bloat to a junk folder on the internal sd card, but they are still in the system/app folder! Even if i choose delete, root explorer will delete the app but as soon as you refresh the folder they are still there...
EDIT: Figured out ROOT EXPLORER problem, just had to close and restart ROOT EXPLORER, and now my bloat is moved to a junk folder in the sd card!! ALso I was able to disable the stupid boot and shutdown sounds!
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It's nothing to do with the Root. Froyo requires a signed .zip or it won't install. We need the stock kernel modded!
I was wondering if it's possible when we have the stock kernel to flash the CM one, install CWR, then flash the stock one back. Would that keep root and CWR working?
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It's nothing to do with the Root. Froyo requires a signed .zip or it won't install. We need the stock kernel modded!
I was wondering if it's possible when we have the stock kernel to flash the CM one, install CWR, then flash the stock one back. Would that keep root and CWR working?
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I don't think that would work, the stock kernel once flashed overtop of the modded kernel would reset the setting back to "no unsigned zips" so then CWR would not work, well technically it works but we can't get there.
We simply (well, on second thought, maybe not so simply) need to mod the stock kernel, then we can have a custom recovery and even maybe OC/UV with set CPU (if someone can mod the stock kernel) Thanks again Dave, 2.2 is working great, and with root access now I have no bloat, no stupid boot sounds, and the phone fast and stable and also looks great with Launcher pro and beautiful widgets.
My Desire is going on ebay pretty soon...
PS - the genie widget that would FC was for 2.1, I found a genie widget that was for 2.2 and works great.
This is awesome! Adfree working now with the full javascript capabilities of froyo, very, very nice work everyone! I had a few issues at first because I was messing around with other various root methods. After a fresh flash of stock 2.2 thru odin, and rooting first thing using one-click method above, fixed all my issues. I noticed crazy keyboard lag after rooting but a quick reset of the device fixed that. Finally this device is at the level I had in mind when I bought it! We just need to oc/uv the stock kernel now and judging by the uv capabilities in other galaxy s handsets I think we have ourselves a winner!!!!!!
I'm still learning so this might be a dumb question.....
I've read a few how tos on signing the update.zip. can't I just take the file cwr makes and sign it?
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DaveJeep said:
I'm still learning so this might be a dumb question.....
I've read a few how tos on signing the update.zip. can't I just take the file cwr makes and sign it?
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Hell it's worth a shot, right? Be careful, it would seem nothing really bad can happen, but even if it does, you have the files to flash back to stock anyways.
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ok I successfully rooted an optimus V phone with superoneclick and adb shell. And how nice was it to see "Running a SU test.......Success !" so of course I went ahead and downloaded superuser and titanium backup as per the tutorial I used. everything checks out. so what's next??? getting Root without doing something nifty is pretty worthless. so... I think I am going to go with an optimized stock rom as suggested to limit headaches for now.
Some tutorials suggest backing things up. Some talk again activating the storage feature and start adding rom's to the sd card. etc... all I know that titanium backup doesn't care much for the stock rom as it is. By the way do I need to worry about changing the kernel?
I am planning on going with Harmonia for this optimus V, if that helps, for a rom.
Always open to advice on what you'd recommend and why. thanks folks !!
locovagra said:
ok I successfully rooted an optimus V phone with superoneclick and adb shell. And how nice was it to see "Running a SU test.......Success !" so of course I went ahead and downloaded superuser and titanium backup as per the tutorial I used. everything checks out. so what's next??? getting Root without doing something nifty is pretty worthless. so... I think I am going to go with an optimized stock rom as suggested to limit headaches for now.
Some tutorials suggest backing things up. Some talk again activating the storage feature and start adding rom's to the sd card. etc... all I know that titanium backup doesn't care much for the stock rom as it is. By the way do I need to worry about changing the kernel?
I am planning on going with Harmonia for this optimus V, if that helps, for a rom.
Always open to advice on what you'd recommend and why. thanks folks !!
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Wait...you rooted without knowing what you were planning to do after you rooted?
First, you'll want to boot into recovery and do a nandroid backup (just in case you ever needed to go back to stock for warranty reasons). Then pick a ROM. My ROM of choice is is [ROM][WIP][ALPHA] aospCMod | AOSP 2.3.3 / CM7 (Gingerbread). Download the gapps file and put on root of SD card. For this ROM, go to Twitter and search aospluniX. WARNING...make sure you download the OV files, NOT the HC files. Once the 2 OV files are downloaded put on root of SD card. Boot into recovery mode, wipe data/cache, wipe Dalvik cache. At main menu, go to Flash .zip from SD card. Flash the OV ROM file. When that finishes flash the gapps file. Reboot, then behold the glory that is AOSP!
EDIT: almost forgot, flashing a kernel is up to you. Just place on root of SD card and flash. You can do this at any time. AOSP's ROM has a built in kernel, which is my preference. Seems to run really smooth and fast for me.
OK so this probably sounds backwards from what everyone would expect. I've been using attn1's Liberated 2.2.2 FR008 rom and adding/removing apps to suite my needs. But now I want to REMOVE usb & wifi tethering! Sounds crazy but this phone is for a kid. I don't know much about developing. I'm guessing these features are built in to the OS, if so do I need to just get a custom settings.apk that doesn't give the tether options OR is there an apk i can remove (many of the apks in that rom have name that I'm not sure what they do so I left them in)? Any help would be really appreciated!
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OK so this probably sounds backwards from what everyone would expect. I've been using attn1's Liberated 2.2.2 FR008 rom and adding/removing apps to suite my needs. But now I want to REMOVE usb & wifi tethering! Sounds crazy but this phone is for a kid. I don't know much about developing. I'm guessing these features are built in to the OS, if so do I need to just get a custom settings.apk that doesn't give the tether options OR is there an apk i can remove (many of the apks in that rom have name that I'm not sure what they do so I left them in)? Any help would be really appreciated!
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I guess you'd just have to get a new rom which does not have those options (none that I know of), but I still don't see why you need those options removed. Even if it is for a child, it doesn't really make a difference. The options can still be there and just not be used.
didnt the stock 2.1 NOT come with tethering? Its been a while, but I think thats how I remember it. So couldnt you just revert to a 2.1 rom?
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didnt the stock 2.1 NOT come with tethering? Its been a while, but I think thats how I remember it. So couldnt you just revert to a 2.1 rom?
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Yes, the original AT&T 2.1 ROM did not have a tethering app.
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Yes, the original AT&T 2.1 ROM did not have a tethering app.
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Right, but I can't figure out how to remove the junk apps ect. from the RUU before flashing it like I can with a custom just by deleting apk's from the .zip file. Any ideas?
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I guess you'd just have to get a new rom which does not have those options (none that I know of), but I still don't see why you need those options removed. Even if it is for a child, it doesn't really make a difference. The options can still be there and just not be used.
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And just how do you leave the options there and be sure they will not be used??
I'm no dev but i think if you flash back to ATT 2.1 Rom and re-root to get super user i think you'll be abel to delete your ATT softwear with titanium backup... but I'm not sure. I hope this works for you
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Right, but I can't figure out how to remove the junk apps ect. from the RUU before flashing it like I can with a custom just by deleting apk's from the .zip file. Any ideas?
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you can use adb to remove the apk's from the /system partition while the phone is in recovery after you flash the stock 2.1 RUU. You may have to reflash clockwork recovery after this, not sure if it will revert to stock recovery or not. Also, not sure on this one but you can check out the 2.1 Liberated Rom in the dev section and see if it has tethering enabled or not. Trying to remember this off the top of my head but its been so long since Ive done anything 2.1...
Yes, running the 2.1 RUU will remove Clockwork. So the full process would be to run the 2.1 RUU on the phone, then once done, run Unrevoked again on the phone. At this point I would recommend taking a Nandroid backup so you can revert any changes you make (i.e., if you have problems after deleting one of the apps).
Then you need to use adb to remove apps while the phone is in Recovery mode.
The downside of this (compared to just leaving the phone with stock 2.1 after using the RUU) is that Unrevoked automatically gives you root access in the ROM, which may or may not be what you want.
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Yes, running the 2.1 RUU will remove Clockwork. So the full process would be to run the 2.1 RUU on the phone, then once done, run Unrevoked again on the phone. At this point I would recommend taking a Nandroid backup so you can revert any changes you make (i.e., if you have problems after deleting one of the apps).
Then you need to use adb to remove apps while the phone is in Recovery mode.
The downside of this (compared to just leaving the phone with stock 2.1 after using the RUU) is that Unrevoked automatically gives you root access in the ROM, which may or may not be what you want.
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Root access to the rom is fine. But if I remove apks using adb aren't they still in the boot.img making it possible to simple do a system wipe/ hard reset and thus bring back all the junk apps in the stock 2.1 rom??
With all the DEVS on here it seems like there is a cleaner way to do all this...
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Root access to the rom is fine. But if I remove apks using adb aren't they still in the boot.img making it possible to simple do a system wipe/ hard reset and thus bring back all the junk apps in the stock 2.1 rom??
With all the DEVS on here it seems like there is a cleaner way to do all this...
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No. System wipe would not revert the apps.
The problem started when after I flashed the recovery with Odin. When I booted into the recovery and tried to install the superuser zip file I keep getting this message: "E:cant copy META-INF/google/android/update-binary". I get this message when I try to flash a Rom: "E:Can't open /sdcard/update-unamed-1.3.1-full.zip". I've been trying to flash the CM7 nightlies and the "Unamed" Rom. Any help with this will be much appreciated.
Also, I ended up having to install superuser via SuperOneClick
Honestly, I stopped trying after the phone kept confusing me with SD Card, External Card, and Internal Card/External SD Card BS it was giving me.
I just left my phone rooted, lol.
Sometimes, this tends to happen if you rooted your phone with an anti-virus software running on your PC which can hinder the rooting process. (always the case with my HTC Inspire 4G). So turning it off could allow you to re-download Odin, and run the program again to root it again so it can install the proper files.
Once you get it re-rooted, get into CWM, do a backup, and Clear your Cache, Data and reinstall the ROM from your Internal Card or External Card (which ever you used to place the ROM in).
Good luck.
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Honestly, I stopped trying after the phone kept confusing me with SD Card, External Card, and Internal Card/External SD Card BS it was giving me.
I just left my phone rooted, lol.
Sometimes, this tends to happen if you rooted your phone with an anti-virus software running on your PC which can hinder the rooting process. (always the case with my HTC Inspire 4G). So turning it off could allow you to re-download Odin, and run the program again to root it again so it can install the proper files.
Once you get it re-rooted, get into CWM, do a backup, and Clear your Cache, Data and reinstall the ROM from your Internal Card or External Card (which ever you used to place the ROM in).
Good luck.
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CWM and root are not even related....
root is root access to your OS /system and its functions. it has nothing to do with RECOVERY or anything outside of a RUNNING OS. i wish everyone would understand that.
as long as CWM is there, AND WORKING PROPERLY, rooting has nothing to do with it. you can flash a new rom from bone stock OS, as long as you have the CWM kernel.
@OP, you have these files (roms) located on the INTERNAL SD right?
I think that's why @homescrub said:
"and run the program again to root it again so it can install the proper files."
Proper files being cwm. As of yet I don't know of a way to install cwm without root on this phone. I know the captivate previously allowed an update to be flashed using stock recovery to get cwm.
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Are you clearing your cache before trying to flash zip from sd card? I know I got a similar problem when I didn't clear cache.
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I think that's why @homescrub said:
"and run the program again to root it again so it can install the proper files."
Proper files being cwm. As of yet I don't know of a way to install cwm without root on this phone. I know the captivate previously allowed an update to be flashed using stock recovery to get cwm.
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how do you flash CWM?
through ODIN
that does NOT require root. you dont flash it via ROM manager....so whats the need for root to add CWM?
and what is this 'proper files' crap? you either have CWM or you dont, its not half-assed
nah its cool. im done here. i will let the misinformation fly. let the noobs run in circles. this website is going to **** so fast these days.
No man ....you should help these guys....just lighten up...and I apologize for coming off like that.....and one place I CAN understand is seeing what's going on in the forums....it is chaos sometimes.....I am just tired of seeing noobs who need help get ripped up.....just as much as I am tired seeing noobs posting +1 and Great Job, in the Dev forums. I just think this is the place to help them get a good understanding so there is not another new thread with this same question.
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AntwanL said:
Are you clearing your cache before trying to flash zip from sd card? I know I got a similar problem when I didn't clear cache.
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Thanks this really helped!! Lol I can't believe I forgot to do something like this lol I Odined back to FULL stock, flashed the zedomax kernal with root, wiped data and cache, flashed the rom now all is well
Come on guys, you are both better than this. Shake hands, help the OP, and lets make xda a better place..
Im about ready to take the plung and change my phones stock 2.2 rom for an ICS rom. I think I'm gonna go with ICSlim but I have a few questions first.
1. Will I be able to transfer over the preloaded movie that came with my phone?
2. The steps for installing ICSlim are not very clear. It mentions first updating to a CM9 rom first before updating to ICS, does that sound right? Can some one give me a simple run down of what I gotta do from after installing CWM?
3. Can I get memo and swipe on ICS?
4. If something goes wrong during installation is there any way to recover from it? Does vibrant have something like NVflash?
1. Yes and no. Yes, the movie Avatar will remain on your SD card after upgrading to ICS. However you will not be able to play it.
2. Yes that's partially correct, however I believe you meant CM7. For a detailed break down of the installation process go here.
3. Yes, you can get them. To download Swype you must register as a beta tester here. It's very simple to do and only takes a couple minutes. Once registered you can download and enjoy Swype all over again. You can download the Touch Wiz memo app here. Instructions are included in the .zip.
4. Yes. Before wiping data or even installing a rom in CWR, do a nandroid backup. Here's some simple instructions from the noob guide in the Q&A section...
Clockwork Recovery / Nandroid Backup!
Reboot into CWR (both volume buttons held in) while booting until you see “Vibrant'
Once there, go to Backup and run that. Should take about 5 minutes, maybe more.
If all hell breaks loose, this is a snapshot of your phone at that point... it's important to do this before flashing a new ROM!
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not so sure about ics now...
After reading about the encryption error I dont think Im gonna move on to ICS after all.
Instead I'm just gonna fix up the stock rom. What are some must do things I should do to get my phone running fast? I know there is an app that removes the preinstalled crap from my phone but I dont know what its called. Anyone know the app Im thinking about?
Also does rooting your phone mess up the play store?
And what is the lag fix? I have seen it mentioned in a few other threads but never took the time to read up on it.
There is a Stock KB5 ROM in the development section. Also a few other Froyo 2.2 ROMs you may want to try.
I don't know of any de-bloater for our devices. You can always purchase TB and freeze them. My Slim_Ryder ROM is about as non-bloat as your can get for Froyo.
Rooting does nothing to play store. I do think it effects the Play Movies.
Voodoo Lag Fix -
In a nut shell. Samsung decided to use a $hitty as filesystem called RFS. A Voodoo lag-fix kernel can convert these RFS file system into EXT4. Much faster the RFS. This Lag-fix is only used in Froyo and Gingerbread (non CM / MIUI) roms. CM7 / 9 (or any ICS rom) uses YAFFS file system. This also requires the ICS kernel to repartition the entire device. Due to this fact if you ever flash CM7 / 9 / ICS / MIUI and want to go back to any Froyo / GB rom you must Odin back to stock with repartition checked.
Hope the info helps
Ty
Thanks for the info, the lag fix stuff is a big help especially
Is it true.....
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still looking...
Still looking for the app that uninstalls the preinstalled apps on the vibrant.
You can do this yourself with Titanium Backup or any file explorer that has Root. They are in /system/app.
Sidenote: Before you get uninstall crazy, one of the benifits of TB is that you can Freeze and app. This lets you see if there are any unintended consequences by not allowing that app to do its thing. If all is good, then you can uninstall. Make a TB backup first though in case you ever want to reinstall.
Once you get all those bloat apps gone, reboot to recovery and wipe /cache and the advanced>wipe /dalvik-cache and it will clean your phone of anything those left behind. Will/should run snappier too. I actually do this from time to time to keep my stuff clean.
Just download the extended blu ray version and tada.
Its free (illegally)
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Just download the extended blu ray version and tada.
Its free (illegally)
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I feel that anyone who bought a vibe and has gone custom rom has the right to rip a copy of avatar.
What are you looking at shortbus......
Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
Chase716 said:
Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
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Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
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Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
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Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
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Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
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Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
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Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
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I don't think there are any temp-root solutions out there for the Gingerbread Fascinate, as the community was well beyond using exploits by that time Could be wrong, but I looked around and didn't really find anything. It might be worth looking around for a generic Linux 2.6.35-based exploit that somebody has compiled for the ARM processor.
Question ... what would prevent you from temporarily flashing a custom recovery to make the edits you want? If you don't change anything else, it would be overwritten with the stock recovery on the next boot, thus covering your tracks (and we can get the stock recovery back on there for ya if for some reason it doesn't). Many (most?) recoveries will allow ADB access when active, so you can mount system and do what you need to do without actually rooting the stock ROM.
Also, don't worry too much about the CDMA activation status, unless you check a certain box in the Samsung ODIN tool there is almost no way to screw that information up doing what you're looking to do. The CDMA keys are stored in a super double secret location that you ordinarily can't get to. The option is called "EFS Clear", don't go anywhere near it.
If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
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If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
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Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
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You should be able to unroot via SuperOneClick after you've fully rooted and debloated the thing. Whoever's keeping an eye on that Fassy hopefully won't notice!
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Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
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Does the person you're hiding this from even know the difference between what GB and JB looks like? What's to say if you have an AOSP or CM-based JB rom that they'd even know it's not stock?
Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
For a detailed guide on pretty much anything related to rooting/flashing just check droidstyle's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
For freezing or removing bloat I highly recommend buying Titanium Backup, but there are some free apps that will do that sorta stuff. Titanium will give you way more options down the road though...
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Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
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I believe he does, since when I rooted my Incredible 2 he noticed it was completely different and not HTC Sense skinned, and I'd explained to him the Android operating system. And I use ADW EX as my default launcher, only because I can't use the TwLauncher due to lag issues. So I've hidden my bloat apps, but things still stay open in the background.
This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
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This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
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I wish. He won't listen, and he'll just say that it's bad, I don't need to root my phone,and that I'll break it, like my old one ( NOT MY FAULT!). That is why I wanted to do it secretly, temporarily, or something like that. I know it's good, and that there are risks. So is there any way I can root (no flashing) and keep it hidden? Also, I went into the bootloader, and saw an option that said update.zip. Would that be useful, to maybe flash the EH09 Fascinate rom?
UPDATE: Thanks for the help everyone, but I'm most likely going to ditch the Fascinate for a Galaxy SIII. So maybe sometime I'll find the time to experiment with ROMS on my Fascinate sometime.