Hi everyone, I've really been looking at the Cingular 3125 as my next phone but have some concerns over the USB speeds. As stated on the fact sheet, the unit is only USB 1.1. I'll be doing numerous xfers of music and video and am wondering how others cope with the potential slow speed of USB 1.1. Is it really that bad? How often do you take apart everything to mount the miniSD in a reader? Why would they put 1.1 in such a new device when USB 2.0 has been around for ages?
Thanks.
well. I think that usb w needs more power and usb 1 is probably cheaper.
You can solve the speed problem partially by using the tool called wmstorage it can be found at www.modaco.com. free of charge. this tool makes your micro sd card while inside the phone a removable hdd. like a memory stick. that is faster file transfer then via AS. also the new version of AS 4.5 BETA supposed to have a faster file transfer capabilities.
For the rest I love the phone. it is a real beauty.
My first post, but I've been reading in this forum for two months, a couple hours each day. It's habit forming.
Gtab, tnt lite v.4.1.0
I have a USB adapter made by Sigg that has a 16gig microSD inserted. Formatted (several times) FAT32. When inserted in the gtab USB host slot the disk is not mounted without a lot of plugging and unplugging and praying to the gods. There have been a few messages telling me that the 'card is damaged' when it is not. The microSD card works fine when inserted in the gtab's microSD slot. But it can take hours of fiddling to get the card to mount in the USB slot.
After lots of searching it seems that everyone else takes USB flash drives on the gtab for granted. They all seem to work. Mine doesn't, but works fine in my XPpro 32bit laptop.
If anyone can give me some ideas for troubleshooting this I'd appreciate it.
By the way, this forum is something of a phenomenon. After looking at the gtab threads I went out and bought mine at Sears. What better way to get acquainted with Android? My thanks go out to everyone here who has contributed. Someday I might be able to contribute as well.
I think about ways to better manage the gtablet xda forum, a lot. It has become a monster - but it's not a bad monster, more like a cute and cuddly Sesame Street monster.
How to organize all this fabulous information so that it can be easily searched and utilized? Good question.
All I can say is - keep up the good work. This forum is a fantastic resource.
Thanks all
Two thoughts:
First: I'd change the title. This isn't a thumbdrive issue, really, so much as a USB SD Reader problem.
Second: I've run into similar issues myself. But I've noticed that I have a couple odd ball readers tht don't work on Mac but does work on Windows. This may be a driver issue. My suggestion would be to try another SD card reader and see if that makes a difference.
I also have a USB adapter with a micro SD inside of it. I find that it does not mount on bootup, but it mounts fine if I remove it and re-insert it.
I was wondering if there is an app for sending a software command to mount the USB. I have looked, but have not found.
smalis, my question exactly!
Taking aaltieri's reply into consideration I experimented with a plain-jane thumbdrive, an adapter with a standard SD, and my adapter with the microSd. Others have demonstrated that adapters with more than one slot will not work. Both my adapters have one slot only.
So here's the intriguing results: The plain-jane thumbdrive is just as unreadable as both adapters UNLESS you boot the machine with the adapter/thumbdrive in the slot, then remove it and put it back in. Then they all read after a short detection period. BUT once the drives are removed after detection they cannot be read again until the machine is shut down and rebooted with the drive in, then remove it and put it back in for detection.
What we need is a method for mounting and unmounting USB drives. I've searched and cannot find a way to unmount the drive under tnt lite. It does not show up in settings/storage like the sd cards do.
By the way, the little Sigg adapter is very tiny, sticking out only 1/4" from the side of the gtab. I got it at Fry's Electronics for $6. I leave it in the slot full-time and it helps keep the power button from being activated when the gtab's inside it's sleeve. I use a Belkin 'non-slip' netbook sleeve (also at Fry's) and the gtab fits only slightly loose. I use a couple of ultrathin mouse pads/screen protectors, one on each side, to increase padding. The Belkin sleeve is difficult to drop due to the grippy sides. The ultrathin mouse pads are marketed for netbook use, to put under the lcd when closing the lid to protect the screen (also Fry's Electronics - what can I say, I'm hooked on the place).
The idea I had was to have 16gig in the SD slot and 16gig in the USB slot. The 32gig microSDHC's are cost prohibitive for me right now. And I still have 11gig remaining on the internal memory. I'd better get to work filling it . . .
Yeah, I have one of those tiny USB micro-SD adapters also (elago Mobile Nano II USB 2.0 microSDHC Flash Memory Card Reader from Amazon), and am very happy with its small footprint.
I had same idea as you - I have a Wintec 16 GB Class 10 MicroSD (~$30 on Newegg) in the SD slot and another one in the USB slot.
However, I have no problem reading the USB slot after unplugging and plugging it in once, or multiple times.
The only time I cannot read it is when I boot with it in. Then, I have to unplug it and plug it in once.
Yours seems more flaky.
Just wanted to note that I had similar issues reading the contents of a FAT32 formatted thumbdrive when using the default iFileManager on Vegan. I downloaded the File Manager app by Adao Team on the market and I can read the thumbdrive contents just fine when using that app.
A follow up for anyone interested.
I migrated to vegantab 5.1 to get mouse and keyboard functionality. I also loaded the small update to 5.1 that has sniffer included.
I don't think sniffer is much to write home about, but it does mount all the usb 2.0 drives and even all the multi-adapters that I've thrown at it. Some posts have pointed out that the multi-adapters don't work. But they do, at least in my experience. I used a Sony adapter that has sd, micro-sd, sony's memory stick, compact flash, and some other port. My 16gig compact flash cards from my camera are read without a problem AFTER opening sniffer. The iFile manager that comes with vegantab does not see the usb 2.0 or the adapter until sniffer is opened. Then the system sees the drives with no problem.
It works every time.
I decided to use an HP wireless mini keyboard. It's a perfect match for the gtab. I thought about dropping $80 for the new Verbatim folding bluetooth keyboard but the HP allows for much better touch typing and I need to do that. Best Buy has a cd/dcd carrying case made by Init that is essentially a hard case that fits the HP keyboard perfectly one the cd sleeves are removed. There's room under the keyboard for headphones, flash memory, and other odds and ends. With vegatab and the mouse fix, the keyboard is easily detected and the mouse pointer works great.
Anyway, it looks as if the mounting issue is one that can easily be taken care of with an app. Another more recent poster on this issue has noted that changing file managers allowed him to mount usb drives that iFileManager would not see. But sniffer works and it's there for seperate download if anyone wants it. I think it looks like crap and doesn't do much. I'll use it in the meantime, though.
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A follow up for anyone interested.
I migrated to vegantab 5.1 to get mouse and keyboard functionality. I also loaded the small update to 5.1 that has sniffer included.
I don't think sniffer is much to write home about, but it does mount all the usb 2.0 drives and even all the multi-adapters that I've thrown at it. Some posts have pointed out that the multi-adapters don't work. But they do, at least in my experience. I used a Sony adapter that has sd, micro-sd, sony's memory stick, compact flash, and some other port. My 16gig compact flash cards from my camera are read without a problem AFTER opening sniffer. The iFile manager that comes with vegantab does not see the usb 2.0 or the adapter until sniffer is opened. Then the system sees the drives with no problem.
It works every time.
I decided to use an HP wireless mini keyboard. It's a perfect match for the gtab. I thought about dropping $80 for the new Verbatim folding bluetooth keyboard but the HP allows for much better touch typing and I need to do that. Best Buy has a cd/dcd carrying case made by Init that is essentially a hard case that fits the HP keyboard perfectly one the cd sleeves are removed. There's room under the keyboard for headphones, flash memory, and other odds and ends. With vegatab and the mouse fix, the keyboard is easily detected and the mouse pointer works great.
Anyway, it looks as if the mounting issue is one that can easily be taken care of with an app. Another more recent poster on this issue has noted that changing file managers allowed him to mount usb drives that iFileManager would not see. But sniffer works and it's there for seperate download if anyone wants it. I think it looks like crap and doesn't do much. I'll use it in the meantime, though.
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I didn't even think of Sniffer. I have a cheapo USB reader that was intermittently working (1 out of 60?). After your suggesting, if I open sniffer then plug it in, it sees it every time.
Folks,
I don't know that there is an answer I have seen to all your questions/observations.
I will say:
1. microSD post and USB on the tablet are not plug and play like Windows.
2. When I change my USB key or microSD, I always shut down and likewise I
always shut down before removing them.
3. Yes, I know that's a pain if you change a lot, but for me it makes sure
Android's flicted OS searches for, finds them, and in turn properly shuts them
down before I remove them.
For me, in and out as need just doesn't work.
Rev
EDIT: P. S. -- You all seemed like sharp guys. Should I have asked if you
are looking for the files under /USBdisk?
In my experience, thumb drive mounting is hit and miss. Maybe it's just the drives that I'm using, but it's unreliable. Also, with Gingerbread and Pershoot's kernels, he references having to revert something in order to get USB mount to work (thinking about it, that might refer to mounting the tab to a computer). I would suggest getting used to unmounting your external micro card in Android and growing out a fingernail or two so you can pop that sucker out. I think this is a low priority to the devs, and maybe it should be.
I´m thinking about having a wireless setup for charging my Atrix, both in the car and my bedroom. I´ve been surfing the net looking for a solution that will fit the Atrix but without any significant success. So far I´ve found universal clips for Micro USB that might work. But if my memory serves me the Atrix charges at a different voltage than other phones, right? Does any of you guys know if there is a powermat or something similar that will work with the Atrix?
I saw another thread about DIY inductive charging, did anyone get this to work for the Atrix?
I´m gonna keep searching for info but I thought it would be a good idea to throw the question out here on xda .
Peace
A while ago someone posted a thread about the file transfer from the tablet to PC being extremely slow (I can attest.)
Anyhow in a brief moment of laziness and curiosity I grabbed my HTC Thunderbolt USB cable (knowing it would fit into the nook --same size) and plugged it up for file transfer. Needless to say now my transfer speeds for a microshdc^4 are around 3~4mbs+.
^Not sure if this will work for everyone but if you have a alternate cable available give it a try, because it is working great for me!
Sounds like they cheaped out and used a cable that only supports usb 1.1 then. Good to know; wish I had a compatible plug from another device for this.
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Sounds like they cheaped out and used a cable that only supports usb 1.1 then. Good to know; wish I had a compatible plug from another device for this.
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You can find cords cheap on ebay. If I have an extra you can have it if you want.
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You can find cords cheap on ebay. If I have an extra you can have it if you want.
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Yep, will probably buy one there if I find that it bugs me a lot. Good to know
Can you charge NT through the Thunderbolt USB cable? (Through the wall socket of course, since the Nook Tablet doesn't charge via PC.)
I'm trying to cut down on my cable clutter. It is really irritating that generic USB cables (and my Nook Touch USB cable) won't work for charging NT - my table is just a mess of wires now.
I dont think it's the cable. I have 10 different cables, Gal S2, Nook Color, Acer A500 etc.. Only when I transfer to Nook Tablet do i have problem (example, 12 hours to move 2.3g files). To get around it i been using dropbox and syncing the files wireless and it's superfast. But Nook color is perfect and everything else.
I ever used differnt combinations of cables on another PC but still no luck. When i plug it in, it sees all 3 Nook Tablet connections but it's so freaking slow.
Not sure why no one else didnt notice this yet. It's a pain to do the wiifi transfers when i know the cable would take 1 minute. I dont really think the unit is defective. Im not sure what else to try..
(ps.. all the PC's im using is Windows 7 64b)
12 hours for 2.3 GB's? Jesus Christ - It took me like 10 minutes to Transfer 700 MB of Music onto my NT - Somethings wrong either with your comp, NT or cables and or memory card - I'd look into it
Yup, i had a folder of all my droid apps. But even if i move 5 apps, it takes 10 minutes. It's freaking crazy, but everything else on it is working so good.. Great battery life, 10+ easily.
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12 hours for 2.3 GB's? Jesus Christ - It took me like 10 minutes to Transfer 700 MB of Music onto my NT - Somethings wrong either with your comp, NT or cables and or memory card - I'd look into it
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I agree 12 hours for 2.3 GB is super crazy. Next time I move some data I'll take screen shots for comparison (nook cable / htc cable)
My mom and dad found a White Nook and it says Critical Battery Alert. I had it on the charger that they found with it from close to 10 pm to around 6 am and same message and I tried another cable with that adapter and nothing changed and I have tried another power adapter and nothing has changed but it does show an orange light next to the power cable slot light up but it has never powered on at all and I have no clue what is wrong with this Nook because I have never used a Nook before
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My mom and dad found a White Nook and it says Critical Battery Alert. I had it on the charger that they found with it from close to 10 pm to around 6 am and same message and I tried another cable with that adapter and nothing changed and I have tried another power adapter and nothing has changed but it does show an orange light next to the power cable slot light up but it has never powered on at all and I have no clue what is wrong with this Nook because I have never used a Nook before
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Is this a Nook Tablet or Nook Color or Nook 1st Edition? The micro usb charging socket on the Nook Tablet is deeper than normal and you definitely need the B&N cable to get a good connection (the micro plug on the cable is longer than normal). It sounds like you are describing one of those cables--it has a light built into the black plastic plug? Orange generally means charging, green is done. The B&N charger is also much higher amperage than the typical usb charger so if you are using a charger you just had around rather than an actual B&N one it may take a lot longer to charge.
It may be that the battery has just given up entirely. These things are old, after all. But before I decided to get rid of it I'd probably open it up, disconnect and reconnect the battery and try again. You should be able to find illustrated or video disassembly instructions via Google. You could probably find a replacement battery if you wanted to go that route.
As far as I can determine it's the First one ever made and I found a Battery on eBay for little over 13 dollars and I guess I wait to that comes in and see what that does
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As far as I can determine it's the First one ever made and I found a Battery on eBay for little over 13 dollars and I guess I wait to that comes in and see what that does
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So you have a Nook 1st Edition (or "Classic"). Since you will have to take it apart when the battery arrives you might as well take it apart now, remove the battery for an hour or so and then put it back in. Then try charging again. Some posters seem to think this solves the problem of the Nook locking up when the power runs out.
There's no forum on XDA for the Nook Classic, and unfortunately the nookdevs are gone but here is a link to an archive of the work done for the Nook Classic, including custom apps if you root the device.
There was a recent posting on the Nook Simple Touch forum by someone who wanted to root their Classic and finally found a good method, if you get it working and decide you'd like to extend its functions.
And, finally there was at one time a reasonably active community of Classic users on the Mobile Read forums.
Thanks for the information but I don't know if root it or not I just want to get it to work right now