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I am starting sprint service an i am wondering what phone i should get i have already had the evo an epic an i liked the evo more besides the screen
Now with all the problems with the evo 3d should i get it or maybe the nesux because i didnt really care about 3d its just a battery drannner
So what do you all think?
you will prob get hw003.. if we are to ref the evo 4g .. hw003 had most bugs worked out.
and yes. i would recommend it. i am not looking back at my evo4g one bit. love this phone.
Thanks i really love the feel an look of this phone i just want to make sure its not a over advertised cheap device but i plan on gettin it around the 4th of next month i was wanting to wait a couple of shippments to make sure i get a device that has no problems i loved my evo and i hope to love this phone just as much
once you go Evo you never go back!lol.naw but on a serious note this phone is just like OG evo bigger cooler brother with a few trricks up his sleeve.
The 3d is better than the HERO.
IF you do get it, get a pair of $ .99 reading glasses.
The preceding is the reason that companies "BUY" engineering: so they have products which are downgraded (dpi/pixels p i ?) and features which are legacy to the original specs (1024 dpi).
BTW if the ceo of htc uses the evo 3d for email: .... I hope he has reading glasses. LMFAO #shortsighted
Why do u need reading glasses
Pull the trigger on the Evo 3D worth the updgrade from the 4G, it's faster and Sense runs great. I agree the whole 3D thing is a fad and almost useless on this phone but after seeing it the geek in me was impressed...I've had it for less than 24 hours but I am already used to the higher resolution....so far no problems.
i would reccomend it
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3vo. That is all that needs be said.
I would highly recommended it. Best phone I've owned. Top notch !
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The 3d is better than the HERO.
IF you do get it, get a pair of $ .99 reading glasses.
The preceding is the reason that companies "BUY" engineering: so they have products which are downgraded (dpi/pixels p i ?) and features which are legacy to the original specs (1024 dpi).
BTW if the ceo of htc uses the evo 3d for email: .... I hope he has reading glasses. LMFAO #shortsighted
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Haha what? Reading glasses? I think you are alone with that thought... The EVO 3D has of of the best screen resolutions of all phones out there. Definitely recommended. Also it will have some of the best developer support here at xda if you ever want to go the customizing route.
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Yes, I would recommend it's amazing.
Yeah, definitely the evo 3d. Run smooth as butter and 3d is amazing, no eyestrain here as long as the content was well made (looking at you, Spidey...) The Green Hornet looks flawless in 3D
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Yes! Get it! EVO 3D!
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Hi 'leggs,' here's why. The default font size, especially in messaging and mail, is just too small for all but 'young eyes!' Sprint forgot many of us paid premium dollar for a large screen with LARGE print (fonts) and icons. There is no font adjustment anywhere on the phone. Nore any app in the Market. I spoke with Sprint 2nd tier tech support and they said there is no cure. I have a new EVO 3D and I'm taking it back mainly for this reason. Eye strain sucks. I want my 4G back.........with Gingerbread. Others may love this phone, but mine is buggy......it freezes often, the camera acquired a green tint, and several navigational arrows in texting and url writing are simply gone. I think the 4G came 'out of the box' on its' first day as a much more usable device.
The Old Black Guy
Absolutely love this phone. Even if u don't use 3D this thing is polished.
Phone is phenomenal! Even the 3D is a blast and way better than I thought it would be. You get used to the viewing angles quick, and if you are constantly under the influence of substances, the 3D is 10x better. Just watch Green Hornet high as a kite, then afterwards, envy the speed of the phone in general. I love this handset!
Highly recommended
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Hi 'leggs,' here's why. The default font size, especially in messaging and mail, is just too small for all but 'young eyes!' Sprint forgot many of us paid premium dollar for a large screen with LARGE print (fonts) and icons. There is no font adjustment anywhere on the phone. Nore any app in the Market. I spoke with Sprint 2nd tier tech support and they said there is no cure. I have a new EVO 3D and I'm taking it back mainly for this reason. Eye strain sucks. I want my 4G back.........with Gingerbread. Others may love this phone, but mine is buggy......it freezes often, the camera acquired a green tint, and several navigational arrows in texting and url writing are simply gone. I think the 4G came 'out of the box' on its' first day as a much more usable device.
The Old Black Guy
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Yeah, what Paw Paw said! Although I can deal with the smaller font caused by the higher resolution, I do appreciate the issue since my own vision has always been poor. I've been wearing glasses since I was four and trying to focus on something you can't see well is a pain. I wish we had font control. That and root access would make this the perfect phone.
In the UK it's really this or Sensation in HTC terms and in 3D terms the LG Optimistic 3D & is it better than both of them?
As you know our phone uses the Adreno 220 in the Snapdragon 3 processor. Here are the real benchmarks not that quadrant crap.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2
May favorite link below has several true test and compares all dual core chips:
http://www.droidgamers.com/index.ph...1661-dual-core-beasts-the-decision-to-buy-one
Also its the same chip though it say 1.5ghz don't know why htc lowered it but once we get root I'm sure we will clock it right back up.
Nice. Everyone keep kissing Tegras ass like it's king of the hill. It's nice to see some benches and a good article.
Thanks.
That's written by me, Also i am getting Evo 3D In first weeks of july
Love the second article. Really shows what power lays under to hood in this phone. I have been saying all along that this phone is possibly the most powerful phone out....but everyone else always says yes but look at SGSII quadrant!
For quadrant to be trusted it needs a mayor overhaul. And benchmarks are dor the e-penis bragging. Its all about RL performance. Anyways those results looks promising for us!.
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'faster' at this point it the development of the mobile gpu space is kind of a weird statement.
I'm waiting to see who cleans up in mobile gaming, because historically Microsoft has been the company that figured it out (directx). Dx allowed ATI/NVIDIA to have pretty deep systematic differences in execution strategy, but with the same end calculus.
Wouldnt be surprised if it ends the same way honestly. Google needs to roid out their gaming APIs so game devs don't have to spend more of their time in multi-device debug mode.
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I found it interesting that the iPhone 3GS beat out the iPhone 4. Not sure if the testing is all that accurate. But I don't need stats and benchmarks to tell me that my EVO 3D is faster than the G2x or the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (after owning both).
I think HTC reduced the chip speed in favor of battery life.
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This is very helpful. I even saved the bookmark in case I have to shove it down somebody throat for future flamming! ;-)
My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
Iphone4's score was due to the retina display. You know how some people claim that the display should not effect the score of the device in benchmarks, hen concerning the 3vo? Well the iphone4 seems to demonstrate otherwise. We all know that the iphone4 is an impressive gaming device.
What is vsync? I noticed there are 2 different results with it on and off.
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What is vsync? I noticed there are 2 different results with it on and off.
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I can't tell you exactly what it is but it's definitely GPU related. I've heard it many times about video games. Supposedly, if a game is not vsynced properly, it causes screen tear during the game. That's as much as I know
V SYNC (vertical sync) limits the framerate to match the display, so if your display will only do 60fps it will limit it to that
Good read. http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=928593
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But I don't need stats and benchmarks to tell me that my EVO 3D is faster than the G2x
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Well the g2x was fast. Is fast. But that's because of vanilla.
But I agree the EVO3D is wayyyyy better.
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Iphone4's score was due to the retina display. You know how some people claim that the display should not effect the score of the device in benchmarks, hen concerning the 3vo? Well the iphone4 seems to demonstrate otherwise. We all know that the iphone4 is an impressive gaming device.
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Yeah, I forgot about the iPhone 4's screen resolution. I have the iPad 2 and I am amazed buy it's gaming capabilities. I tried many Droid tabs but my $500 seemed happiest with the iPad 2. But phone wise I'll keep my EVO 3D. My favorite phone since the razr days - never knew why people were so EVO crazy until now.
Smartphone lineage:
Palm Treo (win & palm), HTC Tytn, Nokia n95, iPhone, G1, iPhone 3g, iPhone 3GS, mytouch 3G, mytouch 4G, Galaxy Vibrant, HTC hd2, G2, g2x, MOTO defy, EVO 3D.
I'm sure I have forgotten a few.
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I saw a YouTube video where the galaxy s 2 scored almost 3100 but of course touch wiz is pretty much aosp. The quadrant test was against the sensation and it scored about a 2000 but I'm sure thats because of sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM6sPTcFpAc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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That's written by me, Also i am getting Evo 3D In first weeks of july
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Thats awesome news, you did some great work with the hd2. I used your unofficial build as my daily. You going to dev with the e3d?
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Almost every benchmark will favor one chip or the other. None of them are truly unbiased.
As far as the performance of this phone vs my previous ns4g and epic. I'm not disapointed. I rarely if ever encounter any lag on anything in the UI, and everything opens in a snap. I can't complain at all with any UI element performance.
Most games I get to run perform at least as well as my hummingbird powered phones, However I do have issues with random games crashing and not working. Sure, the GPU is more powerful, but if it wont play 1/2 the games then the power is wasted.
I want to clarify that I really enjoy this phone, and the gpu issue is one I will be able to just deal with.
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Almost every benchmark will favor one chip or the other. None of them are truly unbiased.
As far as the performance of this phone vs my previous ns4g and epic. I'm not disapointed. I rarely if ever encounter any lag on anything in the UI, and everything opens in a snap. I can't complain at all with any UI element performance.
Most games I get to run perform at least as well as my hummingbird powered phones, However I do have issues with random games crashing and not working. Sure, the GPU is more powerful, but if it wont play 1/2 the games then the power is wasted.
I want to clarify that I really enjoy this phone, and the gpu issue is one I will be able to just deal with.
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It's not the gpu its the Unity Engine. Check out these links. If you notice also no games lag just a random crash. It's a new gpu sometimes these things happen has nothing to do with its power.
http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/94...ation-Battleheart-Trial-Extreme-and-Samurai-2
http://androidforums.com/android-games/364036-unity3d-games-dont-work-adreno-220-a.html
Btw several dev told me Unity is working on it. I was also the one to figure out it was there engine. Most developers use it to do a quick iPhone to android port but they have to pay Unity of course but it makes relatively painless for them to port. But if something goes wrong with the Engine on a device pretty much every game will be affected and developer can't do anything about it because Unity did all the real work so they can't fix the coding.
Forgot... We have same chips as Sensation right?
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Forgot... We have same chips as Sensation right?
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Yeah that's right.
What do you miss?
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When I went from WebOS to the OG Evo, I missed nothing.
POS Pre-2yrs EVO 3D-3mo. If there was something worth missing I musta missed it!!!
I went from my Palm Pre to my OG Epic and never looked back. Lack of good apps killed WebOS. Now that I have my EVO 3D, happy as a clam.
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Mmm no much maybe the notifications were better on web OS imo , but nothing else , screen too small for me
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Cards view, swyping up to go to cards view. The multitasking.
Say what you want about Android multitasking but it pales in comparison to webos
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Cards view, swyping up to go to cards view. The multitasking.
Say what you want about Android multitasking but it pales in comparison to webos
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I agree here. I miss the Multitasking from webos.
I got the palm pre the day it released but it was just too slow to move forward. Switched to the evo4g on release day then over to the 3d a few weeks after release. I miss the "cards" other than that I miss nothing
Yea cards were soo cool n conveinant its a shame how things went down one cool thing in the market has that came from webos is the wave launcher which i have on my 3d its nice to have a little piece of webos still
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Cards view, swyping up to go to cards view. The multitasking.
Say what you want about Android multitasking but it pales in comparison to webos
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Man, there used to be a launcher called Itching Thumb that was JUST like webos's card system. It's not in the Market anymore, though. I definitely used it on my EVO4G, (can't remember whether it was in a Froyo Rom or not) but does anyone else remember that launcher?
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Cards.
Wave launcher (Now I have that, but it's not the same :/)
Notifications were better.
Preware. -- Android needs an app similar to this, where root users can access mods, patches, and ROMs from one area. Only problem with this is that it's not as easy as it was with WebOS, as WebOS patches/mods were simply edits in the HTML5 based OS.
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Cards.
Wave launcher (Now I have that, but it's not the same :/)
Notifications were better.
Preware. -- Android needs an app similar to this, where root users can access mods, patches, and ROMs from one area. Only problem with this is that it's not as easy as it was with WebOS, as WebOS patches/mods were simply edits in the HTML5 based OS.
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I also miss these.
Cards could be done with a custom ROM, however, it probably won't and it sounds pretty hard to make. Also, how would you access the cards menu? If it was home, you wouldn't be able to use your home screen anymore.
Notifications - There wasn't really an option to clear notifications unless you clicked on the bar at the bottom and sometimes that took up a lot of screen. I personally think android notifications are better, but an enhanced version of WebOS versions would also be really cool.
Preware - This is one thing I think we strongly need on Android. However, since there are so many devices on android, the mods would have to be device specific. Also, like you said, they would be much harder to make which means there wouldn't be that many mods. Even with these limitations, something like Preware or Cydia would be great for android.
I also miss these.
Cards could be done with a custom ROM, however, it probably won't and it sounds pretty hard to make. Also, how would you access the cards menu? If it was home, you wouldn't be able to use your home screen anymore.
Notifications - There wasn't really an option to clear notifications unless you clicked on the bar at the bottom and sometimes that took up a lot of screen. I personally think android notifications are better, but an enhanced version of WebOS versions would also be really cool.
Preware - This is one thing I think we strongly need on Android. However, since there are so many devices on android, the mods would have to be device specific. Also, like you said, they would be much harder to make which means there wouldn't be that many mods. Even with these limitations, something like Preware or Cydia would be great for android.
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Notifications... Either tapped program or swipe back and they would hide... Especially if app was full screen.
And preware could be done... But each device would need its own feeds...
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I had 18 palm pre such a bad phone . The idea of webos was cool but the hardware was just slow and even when u overclock it it didn't help .
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I had 18 palm pre such a bad phone . The idea of webos was cool but the hardware was just slow and even when u overclock it it didn't help .
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Exactly why I want webOS on my 3d.... Still loved my pre.
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Cards, Preware, Multitasking, the intuitive feel of the OS compared to Android, gestures, the polish of the OS.
People complaining about the apps and everything... I don't understand. I used Preware and had all the apps I needed on that thing. I maybe use 10 apps on my Evo/Evo 3d which is a little less than the amount I used on my Pre.
I loved my Palm Pre but when it broke, still have it..., I went to the HTC Touch Pro. Wow. I regret that decision. Then I held on to that POS until the Evo which was awesome but I still like webOS more than Android. People can make all the arguments they want about webOS not having a lot of apps but that never bothered me. Though, Android is awesome compared to iOS and WP7 (tried them both out and meh).
Never had webOS on a cellphone, so got no idea if its as good as people say it is/was.
Had a Touchpad for close to two weeks, and the only thing I miss, are the cards. Not using them for multitasking (since the Touchpad has pretty poor resolution, so it's hard to see what's going on in each card anyways) but I miss closing apps by just swiping the cards up. It's not a problem on my Evom but on the tablet I have, I really miss an easy way of closing programs.
Honeycomb is bad with that, like ALL the apps you've used the last couple of hours pop up if you click the taskswitcher, and if you use a lot of apps it becomes an unholy mess really fast. Would be nice to be able to close old apps in an easy way like that.
Overall webOS on the Touchpad was pretty awful. I ASSUME it was a lot better on cellphones than on the Touchpad, but it was slooow, and would complain if you had too many windows/cards open.
It was crazy how badly polished/finished that OS was... I mean the Touchpad had pretty good hardware, two dualcore Snapdragon CPUs at 1.2-1.4 Ghz. But it was still slow as molasses, and slower for browsing than my old HTC Desire.
The cards were kinda nice though!
I got in on one of the BUY.com's $199 specials, a coworker got in on an EVO veiw $239 special. I loaded honeycomb and had issues with some of the things I wanted to do. Bluetooth was a joke and I listen to a lot of books. Games wouldn't load, and if I forced them to load, didn't play right. G-Sensor was off on most games. Streaming TV was hit or miss. I just wasn't really happy with it.
Then I downgraded back to Gingerbread and am TRULY impressed with the capabilities. This little machine rocks! ALL my compatible games work! Bluetooth works every time. I can stream at will. It is fast (enough) and the pen adds features that absolutely rock. I loaded VTL launcher from the market and it now looks sharp - many equate it to a Mac (buy I know it's better)
In comparing the HTC Flyer to the EVO View, I hate to say it, but the EVO view ran higher quadrant scores (+200-400) consistently, even when I overclocked mine, on GB or HC. I was a bit dissapointed because they are basically the same machine.
Anyway, thought I'd give my opinion if it will help anyone.
Bluetooth works great for me on Honeycomb. What issues were you having?
I don't think the quad scores indicate the two devices are different. It's just the fact that his runs fastet, period. No two devices technically run exactly the same.
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Bluetooth works great for me on Honeycomb. What issues were you having?
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I was on leedroid and couldnt get my Bluetooth headphones to connect. It would pair and not connect. When I would try to click the headphones to connect. My settings would forceclose on me, repeatedly. I tried another hc rom and had the same issues with BT and games.
This is somewhat offtopic, but I wasn't loving HC until I ditched the sense launcher, installed Neemus launcher and widgetsoid, and disabled that godforsaken lockscreen. Now my battery and speed have improved noticeably.
According to Gizmodo in their HTC One X review, the phone had issues playing 3D games. They specifically mentioned Temple Run, and the phone not picking up certain inputs due to the CPU being overloaded or something. Sounds iffy to me, so I'm seeing if anyone is able to replicate this kind of thing with the LTEVO, thanks!
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According to Gizmodo in their HTC One X review, the phone had issues playing 3D games. They specifically mentioned Temple Run, and the phone not picking up certain inputs due to the CPU being overloaded or something. Sounds iffy to me, so I'm seeing if anyone is able to replicate this kind of thing with the LTEVO, thanks!
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When playing Temple Run, I notice an occasional blip where it hesitates for just a moment. Enough to make you smash into a tree though if you're not careful. Doesn't happen often thought, and I can't find a pattern of when it happens.
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Playing Stair Dismount on mine there is a lot of slowdown
Def not bc of lack of power I'm sure they just need to be optimized for the EVO..
If you think about it, there are only three Android phones with HD screens on the market right now. Most games are probably not yet optimized for that resolution as well. Even Apple doesn't have HD screens in their phones yet. Handset HD rendering is a rather novel feature.
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Both dead space and mass effect (EA)
fc on my phone after intro splash screens.
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I remember when I bought the OG Evo, it seemed to everyone like it was underperforming in the game department. People said it would be fixed with updates and it didn't work because of this or that, but eventually we just realized the hardware wasn't up to snuff. I don't want to make the same mistake with my next purchase, so how bad is it really? Are there any high-end games that run perfectly? How does shadowgun play?
I've played all those games on my 3d ..and they played great..so with a greatly improved CPU and a oc-d gpu its def not hardware ...the s4 is top notch..and ur not go.na have too choice since almost all high end phones coming to the US will utilize the s4
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I've played all those games on my 3d ..and they played great..so with a greatly improved CPU and a oc-d gpu its def not hardware ...the s4 is top notch..and ur not go.na have too choice since almost all high end phones coming to the US will utilize the s4
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I agree but something is wrong I am having small issues with many games that ran fine on the 3d and OG. For instance just downloaded Nba Jam tonight and it studders and lags the whole time un playable. This game was running pretty good on my EVO last week.
So I agree it is not the hardware but something needs fixed. Sounds like the HD screen issue may be to blame
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I'm.having similar issues mostly with sound etc..but it will be fixed..eventually
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So I agree it is not the hardware but something needs fixed. Sounds like the HD screen issue may be to blame
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Any mention of this in the GNexus or Rezound forums?
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Any mention of this in the GNexus or Rezound forums?
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I will go check it out. I am not saying that it is the issue but someone mentioned it and it sounds possible that these may not be optimized for our screen yet I know when qhd was first hitting the market some apps had trouble with it. It has to be something though because there is no way this hardware cannot run apps that ran fine on my OG it just doesn't add up.
Any one get Demolition Inc working on this thing yet?
Shadowrun plays nice and smooth no issues with that game.
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Possible Fix
I don't have the 4g LTE yet I am a current 3D owner. Am trying to decide between GNex and LTEvo but that's another topic...
From what I've read somewhere else (can't quote where from) the fix was to bump your minimum cpu speeds up a notch and will probably fix most/all your lag. Use Antutu or other choice program (rooted only of course) and bump your min clock speed up one or two spots and I bet you don't run into issues.
If this doesn't work then ignore...thanks!
Shadowrun plays really smooth, and I'm amazed with the graphics. Looks sweet!
I was hoping this phone would game better than my gnex but so far it's not doing what I had hoped for. GTA3 has awful audio quality and I have to turn the settings down to low and lower res and other settings to get it to play lag free. I don't think it's any better than my gnex was. I am hoping the game needs an update.
Well I'm disappointed that a lot of the best looking 3D games do not work.
Not Working:
All Gameloft games EXCEPT Order & Chaos (but it still crashes some)
Even the brand new N.O.V.A. 3 doesn't work
Mass Effect Infiltrator
Dead Space
Field Runners
Working:
GTA III
Shadowgun
Minecraft
Deer Hunter Reloaded
Galaxy on Fire 2
Gentlemen, the phone has not even officially been launched yet.
Once game devs figure it out the games will run fine on our hardware. It is fact that our phones are more powerful than the 3D or the Gnex so it just needs to be optimized. On top of that, imagine how our phones will fly on a nice aosp Rom...
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