Hi,
After several days of research I turn to the community to solve a problem encountered on Archos 70IT but I guess all gen8 devices are concerned. The inability to display album art in the application of music while listening to sound files stored on an external drive (NAS) as well through smb that the upnp.
More navigation in the disc can be done by the storage index but files are not visible in the artists or albums indexes ...
Several assumptions:
-indexing disc is never completely (possible reason for the drive size: 600GB capacity on a busy 1TB)
-external drives are not indexed by the application of music (it would be logical and not stupid. ... because demarage otherwise could be very long)
-Files are not well Tagged (false assumption since moving them on Sd solve the problem)
-the last hypothesis the device is trying to cache or to build thumbnails of album art but it hangs on a corrupted file or due to space and resources.
In the case where the application creates a file where it stores these informations : Is it possible to index the drive once (or find a program that will do) and make the device recover that file at startup rather than resume a full indexing. ...
In short, I need your imagination or your help.
Last thing: if you know a music application with good performances on a smb drive I'm interested .... UPNPlay is not bad (artist and album cover) but the upnp is too limited (number of files are not displayed ....)
Thanks
Moved to general as not rom development
As far as I am able to determine, album art is not available by that function, even if the album art is embedded in the ID3 tag instead of stored along side the music files in the folder.
I can't get any of my other devices on my network to see album art on UPnP or Samba through the music app either.
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Hi all,
I just bought a archos 70 250gb and i bought it with the idea to have a backup of my music and pictures. But now i have about 24.000 media (pictures, music and some videos) files and the scanner is having a really hard time finishing the process and mostly seem to fail.
Is there a way to monitor where it goes wrong?
Is there a limit for the amount of files the library is able to scan?
Is there any other way to finish this process?
Now i can only play my files by a folder player (now using poweramp) and i can't watch all of the pictures because it fails on scanning them.
Now it's kind of useless to have 250gb if it doesn't work properly.
Are there other people that have the same issues, and might have a solution ?
Thanks in advance!
(i have searched, but couldn't find anything similar)
Received an answer from Archos:
Dear Customer,
The android operating system used by your Archos limits the number of files indexed, because of this limit some files like music, videos or pictures will not be added to the media library of the device and will not be visible when you browse the media library by Artist, songs, albums etc..
You can access to the files not indexed by using the file browser of the device, or by the “storage” item of the audio player (or video player).
This limit can’t be increased
Kind Regards,
Archos Technical Support
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So seems there is now way to solve it...
Does anyone know an android music player that builds its own library?
I know poweramp is trying to release one in april, but i would like one now since i want a good working device..
Mixergy does not build its own library, but you can point it to one or more folders and have it play those.
-NRG- said:
Hi all,
I just bought a archos 70 250gb and i bought it with the idea to have a backup of my music and pictures. But now i have about 24.000 media (pictures, music and some videos) files and the scanner is having a really hard time finishing the process and mostly seem to fail.
Is there a way to monitor where it goes wrong?
Is there a limit for the amount of files the library is able to scan?
Is there any other way to finish this process?
Now i can only play my files by a folder player (now using poweramp) and i can't watch all of the pictures because it fails on scanning them.
Now it's kind of useless to have 250gb if it doesn't work properly.
Are there other people that have the same issues, and might have a solution ?
Thanks in advance!
(i have searched, but couldn't find anything similar)
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What error show up??
I have over 80GB Music putted into my Archos 70 250GB too, also have 30~40 videos in it.
First time I need to download '.nomedia tools' from Market, than tick all non media folder to apply .nomedia, then do a media scan again and let it run overnight, its done!
This has been covered before:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-925337.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-920675.html
.. but to be honest, that won't help you a lot unless you've got # symbols in your files.
I eventually managed to get all my music files scanned, so I think the 20000 limit is not quite as set in stone as they say. However, it took a couple of weeks of solid effort and some coding on my part (feeding music files one by one into the media scanner and leaving it running overnight several times, and over one whole weekend) - not something I can easily give to anyone else, and something I'd hate to replicate if I ever had to clear my media library.
hi there..
I embedded all album arts into the mp3s in my pc using mp3tag... all working in my pc...
so i copied all the mp3s into my sensation XE.. all the album art is not displaying in the stock music player like it shows in the pc..
i tried viewing all the mp3s in my phone using another pc, all the album art is there.. but the phone is not displaying.. any help?
I'm gonna bump this one.
I have the exact same problem. I've used hours upon hours on sorting my music through mp3tag, giving them new names, making new folders, finding and embedding artwork in tags, and so on. And when I decided to throw it all on my Desire S, it almost didn't show any artwork at all! I shows like 1 percent or so, the rest is just blank.
Now, I know the phone can show it, cause a lot of the music has been on the phone before and showed artwork. BUT.. the problem was it didn't show all artwork (only around 90 percent or so), so I decided to transfer all my music onto my 64gb mincro-sd card once again (have around 50gb of music), only this time having sorted it all through said mp3tag.
I've used both the stock HTC music player, Winamp, Doubletwist, PowerAmp and others, but noone seems to be able to load all of the artwork. It propably has something to do with the android media scanner, but I have no idea how or why, everything I've tried seems to fail: Clearing the media scanner cache, restarting the phone etc. Maybe it's due to some spacial limitation on 'new scannable media' in incoming media scans on startup, who knows.
All the artwork shows up beautifully in Winamp on my computer, but not on my Android. And it pisses me off, as I'm actually quite fond of the whole Android experience. But as a music lover it's just soooo annoying that it's so terrible at handling music and related artwork.
I could of course use e.g. PowerAmp to fill out missing artwork, but it'll propably only work for the app itself, and I have too many albums to be arsed to do it all over again. As said, I already did use so much time on embedding artwork to id3v2.3 tags, and I just don't understand why the phone can't load those tags and related artwork without problems.
Anyone tried the same? Something similar? Other thoughts?
I use Android 2.3.5 btw.
SAME HERE
BUMP! as well!!!
owning a droid razr here and i have the similar problem as well... BUT I CAN SEE MY ALBUM ART AT THE LOCK SCREEN
other apps such as doubletwist etc are able to show my album art but the STOCK music player doesnt even show a SINGLE album art...
i classify all my song in their albums like a;ways and tag them from mp3tag...
100% sure they are there but they cant seem to show up on the app
Hope ics update will come earlier and fix this???
BTW
my phone had successfully shown the album art the first time i uploaded them into my internal storage but now it cant seem to work as before any more
after syncing them to my 16gb sandisk microsdhc....
now syncing it to my interal storage doesnt work as well...
Bump. Even downloading using album art grabber, and setting it to overwrite the default artwork, it doesnt stick. Plus, everytime i restart, all my artwork needs reaaplying, everytime i copy/to from the card, the artwork messes up, and my playlists vanish. Album artwork has already been pre-embedded, but winamp wipes it on transfer, forcing me to use album artwork grabber app. Is there ANY way to make these changes stick?
Hello there my fellow XDA-ers,
So I bought a Flyer not too long ago, mainly for notes/browsing/video/music.
And all is working well, with the normal browser, opera browser and BSPlayer.
For music I use both the standard HTC Music Player (I'm on stock Gingerbread btw, but it's S-Off and rooted) and Spotify. Spotify is working well, but for local music I prefer to use the HTC Music Player, since I really like the look and layout in landscape. Spotify is just an oversized phone version (and only portrait, but I've heard of a fix for this) =\
But in the HTC Music Player, if I have... say.. compilation albums, it just shows 1 random album cover for every song in the compilation, even though all the songs (in the album/compilation) have a different album cover. I know that each song has a different cover art, since each song has its own correct art in iTunes, Spotify PC, Spotify Mobile and on my iPod Touch.
This is more of a general question about Android I think, since I have this problem on both my Sensation and Flyer.
I don't know much about how all this works, but all my files are 320kbps MP3's and have album art.
I google'd around a bit, but couldn't find anything that worked. So what could I do to make every song have its own cover art?
Also, YAY ICS is coming to the Flyer
If you have folder structure for your music and all songs from a compilation are in one folder and you have an album art file in that folder, then that's probably what player will show. I haven't used HTC's music player, but I know that this is what some players do.
Also you need to check info tags of the songs in compilation. If Album tag shows something like "Top Hits #1", then that's the album art that you're going to get. If tags are good and have correct Artist, Song, Album info, then album art is an easy fix. If tags are messed up, then you might have a problem.
I used to have a big collection of songs and many were made a decade ago, some from compilation CDs. Most of those files had tags messed in one way or another. When I decided to organize my music library I remember I used a tagging program first (maybe it was "tag&rename). In some files I had to fill in Artist and Song info from the filename. Files copied from iPods I had to rename, using Artist and Song info from the tag. I also erased "album" tags from messed up files (compilations), year and some other stuff. I replaced "album artist" field with "artist", so it doesn't show there something like "various artists". Then I used Winamp to pull up the tags automatically from the internet. It did pretty good job and fixed more than 90% of files. All above is done automatically and you don't have to do much there, other than telling program what to do next. After tagging is done, the best thing to do next(but not necessary) is to use another program (don't remember what I used) to pull the album art from the internet and store it in the music file itself. Last step is recommended, but not necessary, because most better android players (Like Player PRO) can get the art from the internet themselves.
Nowadays, music files usually tagged properly and if you ripped files from CD, many programs will tag songs properly when creating a file. You still might have messed up tags if it was a compilation CD.
You said that all your files have proper art (I assume in iTunes), so I assume that they are tagged properly and the only issue is the location of the song and art files.
I don't remember how iTunes organizes files. But I think it puts song files into album folder (which is in Artist folder) and puts album art file into album folder. When you copy songs into another compilation folder you loose the art. If files are tagged properly, then you can delete the album art file in the compilation folder and let good player (I recommend Player PRO) get all the art from the internet. HTC's Music player probably is not that smart. If you don't have art embedded into the file, then you need to make sure that folder structure is preserved. Songs and album art file from different albums need to be in different folders.
If you're on Linux, use "easytag". As previous post said, embedd the tags (even album art picture) inside the files, then it will use the album art from the file (not from the folder where the file is in). This way you can just copy files across platforms and not loose the album art.
Thanks for the responses guys, but concerning the tags and embedded art, everything is correct I think. I made the folders myself (artist > album > music files) and in the MP3 tags, the artist and album (compilation) are the same, so they appear to be from the same 'artist' and compilation/album. The album/cover art is also included/embedded in the MP3's themselves. Because I made the folders myself, there are no other .jpgs to overwrite the art from the MP3.
Sorry that I forgot to mention that.
But as far as I know, everything is clean and organized. It really seems like the music player is just randomly selecting one of the artworks, since if I remove the entire folder from my Flyer, then re-add the exact same folder from my PC, it will have another randomly selected artwork for every file.
One of the possible solutions I read about was to put every file in a separate folder inside the album folder. So it would be Artist>Album>SongFolder>Song. The files all still had the same artist and album in their tags, so in the player they were still organized in the same artist and album. But still it would select a random artwork embedded in one of the songs and use it for every song.
Sure it's not really that big of a deal for most people, but I do find it very annoying, since I really like all the different artworks (and the HTC Music Player) =\
If anyone knows a tablet optimized (or Flyer optimized, since well.. mine isn't Honeycomb xd) Music Player that doesn't have this problem, suggestions would be appreciated as well.
Same HTC Music Plaer Issue
Roadkill263732 said:
Thanks for the responses guys, but concerning the tags and embedded art, everything is correct I think. I made the folders myself (artist > album > music files) and in the MP3 tags, the artist and album (compilation) are the same, so they appear to be from the same 'artist' and compilation/album. The album/cover art is also included/embedded in the MP3's themselves. Because I made the folders myself, there are no other .jpgs to overwrite the art from the MP3.
Sorry that I forgot to mention that.
But as far as I know, everything is clean and organized. It really seems like the music player is just randomly selecting one of the artworks, since if I remove the entire folder from my Flyer, then re-add the exact same folder from my PC, it will have another randomly selected artwork for every file.
One of the possible solutions I read about was to put every file in a separate folder inside the album folder. So it would be Artist>Album>SongFolder>Song. The files all still had the same artist and album in their tags, so in the player they were still organized in the same artist and album. But still it would select a random artwork embedded in one of the songs and use it for every song.
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I know this is from January, but the album art is rlly bothering me so...
I just got my HTC phone and I have the same problem, every album without cover art has the same random one. I'm kinda a noob when it comes to phones so I'm not sure how to fix the issue but will downloading a different music player fix the problem? Or did you end up finding a way to fix it?
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will downloading a different music player fix the problem?
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Probably not. Its sounds like the ID tags on your music files are screwed up. How do you organize and play music on your computer?
You might try one of these apps to fix the tags: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=fix+mp3+tag&c=apps
As I have found out by now, the folder that stores album artwork thumbs (Andoid/data/com.android.providers.media/albumthumbs) should be the one responsible for keeping album artwork used by the various music players. However, I seem to have problems with the folder storing all my thumbs. For some reason it only stores 25 thumbs, resulting in a very low amount on viewable album artworks in these music players.
I have tried retransfering my music to my SD-card, deleting the stored media and run the media scanner, I have even tried deleting the albumthumbs folder, but nothing seems to help. I might have to try to make a clean installation of android, but I really, really hope I don't have to go this far.
Now, I did make a weird discovery: After having deleted the folder and emptied the media storage, I opened the stock Android Music Player which immediately started searching for albums and artists, and in the early phase of this scanning it actually showed if not all, then at least almost all the artwork. Of course there wasn't that many albums to show since it had only began sweeping the media storage for thumbs. But as it progressed, almost all artwork went blank again, leaving only a narrow selection of viewable album art. Nevertheless I now know that it should be possible to show all the album artwork thumbs, but something blocks it, resulting in a limited number of viewable artwork.
I really don't know what the issue relies on, might be the media scanner or whatever.
Have anyone got any idea what this might be due to? I'm pretty sure that a lot of people who have artwork problems have issues with this folder as well, just not knowing it.
I've purchased a couple Android "TV Boxes" and was shocked to learn that none of the supplied software will play media from SMB/Samba/Windows shared network locations.
My boxes are running Android 4.0x, A9 single core at 1Ghz, Mali400 GPU's, 512MB + 8GB or 1GB + 4GB of memory.
Purchased them from DX.COM... sku 145311 and 157734 (I can't post URLs here)
Just a few of the apps I've downloaded and tested:
- XBMC: Used on my PC's, but too heavy for the Android boxes I have.
- BSPlayer
- Buzz Player
- MX Player
- Mobo Video Player
- Dice Player
- Movie Browser HD
- mVideo Player
Most of these don't support Windows shares very well, or are not user friendly.
Are there any decent media player applications that will do the following?
- Play media located on Windows or Samba shares
- Provide a simple interface so my kids won't get confused
- Play video, audio and pictures
- Possibly link to Netflix and/or YouTube accounts
- It would be great if it were a "launcher" app
Basically, I want a launcher type interface that operates like this:
- I add icons to the main screen.
- The icon can be associated with one or more local folders and/or windows network shares.
- The icon can have rules set to show or hide files and folders that..
- have a specific filename extension (.avi, .mp3, .jpg, etc...).
- that are hidden.
- files of a specific type.
- When the icon is clicked, show the contents of the associated that...
- Match the rules set up for the icon.
- Show thumbnails for files or folders, if available. (use folder.jpg for folder icons, for music or video, locate a .jpg/.png/etc. with the same filename as the movie or music file.
- Allow browsing folders with the same rules as the parent icon.
Alternately, does Android provide any way to set up a Windows share to look like a locally mounted device? This would make some of the players I've found more workable.
I know I'm being pretty specific, but I know what my wife and kids want when it comes to watching movies and playing music.
Any suggestions or ideas are welcome!
I do program... and if I were an Android developer I would try and whip up something. If anyone has pointers for developting an app with wifi, smb shares, ui and playing media on Android, please let me know!
Archos Video Player
Try Archos Video Player.. It has a good graphical interface..