X10 only not interesting about HD2 or other Myriad vs JIT
How to implement this in X10?
using i.e adb??
cheers
marcoplo said:
X10 only not interesting about HD2 or other Myriad vs JIT
How to implement this in X10?
using i.e adb??
cheers
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Just googled it and the latest news I found were from about february 2010. Since both were developed at about the same time, I think that Myriad died when JIT made the race. And no, you cannot have both versions Just enable the flawlessly working JIT if you haven't already, and enjoy your snappy x10
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How ask never get lost! does it ?
By the way I don't like to threat flashing X10 like a morning sport So I ask!
qwer23 said:
Just googled it and the latest news I found were from about february 2010. Since both were developed at about the same time, I think that Myriad died when JIT made the race. And no, you cannot have both versions Just enable the flawlessly working JIT if you haven't already, and enjoy your snappy x10
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Hmm... Just wondering if it would be possible to use both of them at once.
As far as I understood IS Myriad providing an other Davlik VM Engine, to replace the stock one.
While JIT is the way the Data is processed.
Does anyone know more about that stuff?
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http://www.myriadgroup.com/Media-Ce...PHICS-AND-BETTER-BATTERY-LIFE-TO-ANDROID.aspx
well with JIT u change the DVM is not only data processing, so i think its the same
Some lifesigns from myriad:
English:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Alien-Dalvik-Android-apps-playing-away-from-home-1185949.html
German:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Alien-Dalvik-Android-Apps-gehen-fremd-1185743.html
But, as far as I understand, its not another virtual machine for Android.
It seems to be a VM for other Linux Based OS to make them able o run Android Apps?!?
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It will be possible?
well froyo is doing some problems to the devs.. i think it would be better to get froyo working since gingerbread will take 4 months
NO!
Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5” and higher. (source)
beat me to it.
yea, considering the minimum system requirements for 3.0 I would have to say no. most Hero users cant even overclock past 695MHz so its a no go.
From what Im reading, theyre killing all custom UI with it too. no more Sense, no more Motoblur, no more nothing. just the new stock google UI that theyre working on.
I kinda see it as a good thing. the one problem with Android phones has been that the customization has been too vast. there needs to be more industry standards just like the iphone or we're going to run into phone wars that dont just involve iphone vs android.
I don't think that we won't be able to get Sense etc because that is the beauty of Android,freedom and customization.If we lose a little of both then...I don't know,I just don't want it to turn iPhoney!I think that they only will give a standard UI for apps so that we avoid the current situation,which is that every app has its own UI and there is no consistency.My opinion though...
If the minimum spec is 1Ghz for gingerbread, then all that news about fragmentation that google going on about is a load of rubbish!
I guess it will soon be the end of the road for the htc hero!
tweedie said:
If the minimum spec is 1Ghz for gingerbread, then all that news about fragmentation that google going on about is a load of rubbish!
I guess it will soon be the end of the road for the htc hero!
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We will first starve to death and then google might face problems!Anyway...Microsoft gave similar specs for WP7 but I've already seen a ported version running on the Diamond!What I've learned here in XDA-Devs is that we can never say never!My opinion?We will see Gingerbread on the Hero but it will never run well or smooth enough...Unless we can change its chipset!
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Wouldn't the absence of 'HTC Sense' allow JIT to play an even greater role in boosting performance?
Re: Froyo
There's also a Dalvik JIT compiler that improves overall CPU-bound code performance by two to five times compared to version 2.1.
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lost101 said:
Wouldn't the absence of 'HTC Sense' allow JIT to play an even greater role in boosting performance?
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Nah...I'm sure they can develop some kind of patch to enable JIT with Sense like the ones here on XDA(right now I can remember Feeyo's and Villain's ones).
Will it be hard...
Hell yeah!!!!
But it isn't impossible just today some developers made ubuntu and Android 2.1 on HTC HD2
tolis626 said:
Nah...I'm sure they can develop some kind of patch to enable JIT with Sense like the ones here on XDA(right now I can remember Feeyo's and Villain's ones).
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My point was that 'Sense' doesn't seem to benefit from JIT, and that 3.0 will have a superior UI making it unnecessary anyway. If the new UI isn't incredibly demanding (the reason for the 1ghz requirement cited?) and benefits from JIT, chances are that Hero can handle it.
Android 3.0 will also have a completely refreshed user interface. According to UnwiredView, the new UI will resemble the Cooliris-made photo gallery application that's on the Nexus One. It will feature animated transitions between apps and screens.
Google has hired Palm's former webOS user interface designer, Matias Duarte. His new position at Google is with the Android user experience team.
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h**p://tinyurl.com/39s9e3a
Simple question really, is Froyo really worth it on the HTC Hero.
I mean what difference does it really make to are HTC Hero Phones, the main differences I know, is the ability to store apps to the SD card, which if you are rooted you can do anyway.
The ability to properly play flash files, which I don't think the HTC Hero will fully support due to hardware issues.
Meant to be faster. But using the 2.2 roms, we have, I did not notice any increase of speed and if anything, the speed gets much slower after using it a few days. (excluding Fusion rom).
On top of this, some apps wont support Froyo, you lose HTC sence/HTC apps, and there is keyboard problems.
What do you lot think?
[email protected] said:
Simple question really, is Froyo really worth it on the HTC Hero.
I mean what difference does it really make to are HTC Hero Phones, the main differences I know, is the ability to store apps to the SD card, which if you are rooted you can do anyway.
The ability to properly play flash files, which I don't think the HTC Hero will fully support due to hardware issues.
Meant to be faster. But using the 2.2 roms, we have, I did not notice any increase of speed and if anything, the speed gets much slower after using it a few days. (excluding Fusion rom).
On top of this, some apps wont support Froyo, you lose HTC sence/HTC apps, and there is keyboard problems.
What do you lot think?
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From the moment I installed the first development build of FroydVillain, I am never going back to 2.1. It's honestly that good.
The main benefit is having JIT, which speeds up the ROM. We have seen scores of 5.3 mflops in linpack using Froyd1.1.1 with overclock.
Froyo is also the latest version, includes the stock browser with the V8 javascript engine etc. and has automatic market updates amongst other random stuff
Have a look at the new features of froyo, as I've never looked back yet
PS. camera doesn't work properly yet, but IMHO it's a decent compromise for the ROM that has given me the best battery life ever etc.
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anon2122 said:
From the moment I installed the first development build of FroydVillain, I am never going back to 2.1. It's honestly that good.
The main benefit is having JIT, which speeds up the ROM. We have seen scores of 5.3 mflops in linpack using Froyd1.1.1 with overclock.
Froyo is also the latest version, includes the stock browser with the V8 javascript engine etc. and has automatic market updates amongst other random stuff
Have a look at the new features of froyo, as I've never looked back yet
PS. camera doesn't work properly yet, but IMHO it's a decent compromise for the ROM that has given me the best battery life ever etc.
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I did have a very good look at all three Froyos ROMs and then I installed 2.1 again, Android 2.1 is so far 100% better for the HTC Hero, in my opinion.
I don't think I miss much by having to individually update the apps, especially since I don't like being the first to update apps as not all updates are for the best (E.G. Astro (now with adds))
Although the Rom is meant to be faster I found it a lot slower, even though I was using Set CPU, only Fusion Rom was decent (but as other roms still had reliability problems). With 2.1 everything is much faster.
I will probably try Android 2.2 again, but I will probably wait till there is a version with Sense as in my opinion Launcher pro (plus) is so inferior in comparison. Sense is a very important feature in my opinion.
Between Android 1.5 > 2.1 there was a big difference and it was worth updating, here no such difference exist, and the main attraction of 2.2 the ability to play proper flash does not work with the Hero.
Just my opinion, but would it be fair to say that its still a bit early to be drawing comparisons?
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wayferer said:
Just my opinion, but would it be fair to say that its still a bit early to be drawing comparisons?
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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Yeah, i'd agree. Wait another week or two, till the issues start to go, then look again
tbh i think it is good that the scene is moving towards 2.2.
sure things dont fully work atm and certain features wont be beneficial on the hero, but at least there are people working on it so that there is an option if it is needed/wanted.
it is better that there are questions as to whether we need 2.2 on the hero, rather than endless questions of "when will 2.2 be ported".
Just my opinion, but would it be fair to say that its still a bit early to be drawing comparisons?
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I just posted (on my two posts) on what we have available at the moment, and what we know about Android 2.2 in relation to flash, app2sd and automatic updates. No matter what rom comes out in the future these problems will persist.
I agree that all the roms we have are just beta-like versions, and that I am hopeful that the roms will be faster in due time. I even mentioned in my 2nd post that I will try Android 2.2 again once someone manages to incorporate HTC sense to it.
it is better that there are questions as to whether we need 2.2 on the hero, rather than endless questions of "when will 2.2 be ported".
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I 100% agree with you, and I fully appreciate all the work that developers make in order to develop these roms. But at this moment in time, I found that upgrading my phone to Android 2.2 felt more of a downgrade (excluding Fusion, to some extent).
To be honest ill be very surprised, if we ever get a good Froyo rom, which is as fast as the 2.1 roms and works properly with flash. But we will have to wait and see.
Hmmm. I see your concern about automatic updates, but they are optional, and need to be actively enabled in my experience.
EXT apps2sd is miles better than the included one, so I think it's a case of "better than original" for that.
Sense should come with time. No idea about flash tbh.
Froyd is looking to be a fair bit faster now
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Hmmm. I see your concern about automatic updates, but they are optional, and need to be actively enabled in my experience.
EXT apps2sd is miles better than the included one, so I think it's a case of "better than original" for that.
Sense should come with time. No idea about flash tbh.
Froyd is looking to be a fair bit faster now
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Any idea if we are talking about weeks, or months for Sense
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Any idea if we are talking about weeks, or months for Sense
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I can be even more specific. A few days after HTC does the first Sense Froyo ROM for Slide or Legend. But no idea how good these ROMs will be, as there will be porting needed.
Hi to all XDA members,
Got an X10a with Global 2.0.2.A.0.24 rooted with Dual Touch....
i want to change my ROM to a custom ROM.....
I went to XPERIA X10 Android Development sub-forum and found lots and lots of customed ROM.......
so i want to know and have suggestions which is the best custom (2.1)ROM for X10a which has least bug(rather say no bug) and can work blazing fast......
Also Is it possible that Flash (adobe flash) can be pushed in to 2.1 ???...... can it be done ?
" I m really sorry if this is re-post since i tried to find it on X10 Q&A sub forum didnt got any such details "
i'm Using Eminence and installed Eternity 2 in my friends X10 and i vote for Eternity 2 . it's more faster and easier and jit included.
pick one you like.
I recommend eminence v1.2
I'm obviously biased, but check out kX10: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913610
Why bother with a 2.1 rom when free10x has a working camera and is a million times better than any 2.1 rom? Get with the times
If you want something stable, use the modded SE roms like Eternity or X10iUser's rom. ( Basically Sony's normal 2.1, with some theming and tweaking; no Flash on these ones )
If you want to experiment with the newer Android versions, I'd suggest using Z's FreeX10 2.2 b2. However, this rom is still under beta stage, most of the functions work, but there will definitely be some glitches here and there. ( FreeX10 2.2 is capable of Flash 10.1 )
PS: do everyone a favour and make sure you READ all the info of that rom before posting in the dev section.
Best of luck.
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Why bother with a 2.1 rom when free10x has a working camera and is a million times better than any 2.1 rom? Get with the times
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True, the >2.1 ROMs are nice, but I completely rely on my phone. There's still too many bugs, and they aren't 100% stable. Plus I see no benefit other than Flash, which is not a benefit to me.
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True, the >2.1 ROMs are nice, but I completely rely on my phone. There's still too many bugs, and they aren't 100% stable. Plus I see no benefit other than Flash, which is not a benefit to me.
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I have not had a single reboot or issue whatsoever.. I have found it to be 100% stable..
Well if you consider having your quadrant score nearly double (mine is 1500+ now, was like 800 before), not to mention the far superior memory management of froyo, I think you'll see there are far more benefits than just flash. Do some research on it..
Well i use Eternity, and I love it, and its blazing fast with no problems
I would highly recommend that if you go for 2.1,
I can't say anything about the 2.2, because i'm holding back until the video capture works correctly (i think that the only problem now, right? or was that fixed?)
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Well i use Eternity, and I love it, and its blazing fast with no problems
I would highly recommend that if you go for 2.1,
I can't say anything about the 2.2, because i'm holding back until the video capture works correctly (i think that the only problem now, right? or was that fixed?)
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higher battery consuming (around 20 hours) - Many Apps FC Specially Task Managers - other small bugs . Z Did a Great Job in his FW but still not completely stable .....as a smartphones user who likes to show his X10 to his friends you don't want to see your x10 reboots more than 1 time per a day. It's annoying . Once the camcorder is implemented and these bugs are fixed i will directly install the 2.2 fw on my smartphone . I'm Really Excited .
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higher battery consuming (around 20 hours) - Many Apps FC Specially Task Managers - other small bugs . Z Did a Great Job in his FW but still not completely stable .....as a smartphones user who likes to show his X10 to his friends you don't want to see your x10 reboots more than 1 time per a day. It's annoying . Once the camcorder is implemented and these bugs are fixed i will directly install the 2.2 fw on my smartphone . I'm Really Excited .
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You don't need task managers or killers with froyo, they have issues even on official froyo. Read up in it.
I have not have even one reboot.. also the battery consumption is actually better than 2.1 due to the better memory management.
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I have not had a single reboot or issue whatsoever.. I have found it to be 100% stable..
Well if you consider having your quadrant score nearly double (mine is 1500+ now, was like 800 before), not to mention the far superior memory management of froyo, I think you'll see there are far more benefits than just flash. Do some research on it..
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I didn't mean to offend you. I have read up on it, and while the higher Quadrant scores are nice, I didn't see any real-life performance improvements over a tweaked 2.1. Maybe others do, I don't know. I'm just saying that for me, I would rather have a rock solid ROM than a few bells and whistles.
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higher battery consuming (around 20 hours) - Many Apps FC Specially Task Managers - other small bugs . Z Did a Great Job in his FW but still not completely stable .....as a smartphones user who likes to show his X10 to his friends you don't want to see your x10 reboots more than 1 time per a day. It's annoying . Once the camcorder is implemented and these bugs are fixed i will directly install the 2.2 fw on my smartphone . I'm Really Excited .
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That's exactly why I can't use 2.2 as a daily ROM. If they ever get 2.2 or 2.3 out of beta, I will definitely use that instead of 2.1.
fiscidtox said:
You don't need task managers or killers with froyo, they have issues even on official froyo. Read up in it.
I have not have even one reboot.. also the battery consumption is actually better than 2.1 due to the better memory management.
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Everyone's experiences will vary.
Hi
what is the difference between froyo 2.2 and gingerbred comparing everything and comparing with 2.1 as well
Its a very basic question i want to ask dont kill me as i am new in that.
thanks
it's a updated that include fix to the software to improve it or get more stability, or add some characteristics. Between the 2.2 and 2.3 I can say that the major point that improve is about the speed.
Pd. You can see this video to have a better idea of the characterisitcs of Gingerbread (2.3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3pdWBlZ34
a headache of problems for the devs lol
lol yes ^^^^
But seriously, every new version adds speed. 2.3 is faster then 2.2 and I don't think there are any major new features of 2.3, but correct me if I'm wrong.
for your basic question ill give you a basic answer.
the numbers
The main focus for speed improvements for 2.3 as far as I understand is for video games.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
2.3 has an awesome screen on/off animation that is really fun to show off
have a read here
Well, I was googling on overclocking the gpu on msm7227 devices, and guess what I found on the first result: https://github.com/D4rKn3sSyS/MiniPro_GPU_OC
I'm sorry if I'm not supposed to like discuss about it or something, but I can't seem to find a thread concerning this in the x10 mini pro forums....
Sent from my x10 mini running the latest version of minicm 7.
I browsed through the files inside and can't find any numbers related to our gpu clockspeed etc......is this more of a set up, a framework for a module? I'm no developer and I can't read code, so I could be completely wrong.
Sent from my x10 mini running the latest version of minicm 7.
We all are gonna overclock cpus gpus and bust them and then get another phone soon. better we collect money from now onwards.
Bro, nice idea, but we dont need that for now. we are happy with our phones with the new custom roms.
Thanks!
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Well, I was googling on overclocking the gpu on msm7227 devices, and guess what I found on the first result: https://github.com/D4rKn3sSyS/MiniPro_GPU_OC
I'm sorry if I'm not supposed to like discuss about it or something, but I can't seem to find a thread concerning this in the x10 mini pro forums....
Sent from my x10 mini running the latest version of minicm 7.
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Wat the hell?? how come D4 never mentioned this??this would be awesome if we get it working! (dunno if it already is..though i doubt if it is)
Too bad really, D4 has a different phone now.....
rosshalz said:
Wat the hell?? how come D4 never mentioned this??this would be awesome if we get it working! (dunno if it already is..though i doubt if it is)
Too bad really, D4 has a different phone now.....
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I doubt he would have hidden it from us if it was working.
Would the mini's gpu would clock well?
I have no idea, but I guess slight frequency increases should play well
Sent from my x10 mini running the latest version of minicm 7.
Bump!!!
Sent from my x10 mini running the latest version of minicm 7.
i take a look by adding it in my kernel
It isnt working, was a idea, but I never did get help, is hard to modifying GPU clocks, cus I didnt had idea how to do it, anyway that you see there is just the base for any kernel module.