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Hello, I just got a Thunderbolt through my work and I noticed the screen tends to wash out at angles. I had this same problem with my T-Mobile HTC Glacier or MT4G. It turned out to be 2 different vendors Sharp and Sony displays being used in this model. Once I got the good display it was a noticeable difference in the quality of the better display vs the bad one. Direct viewing from straight on is ok just as it was on the HTC Glacier. So I just wonder if anyone might have a good one and could post some pics to show.
Here is my original thread for the HTC Glacier with the Screen issues. There are some pictures and videos to compare the differences. I'm seeing some washing out at angles, especially around the clock digits where this problem is easily seen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863679
Here are some pictures of mine with the Sharp screen. The noticeable areas are the clock widget black areas where they flip.
I'd say it's possible. I'm sure they have more than one place that manufactures the devices. There's been some variability in the build quality of the devices, so it's not too far fetched.
I don't have a camera other than my phone to take pictures, though. It looks like a really good display to me and doesn't "wash out"
You're right there are two displays. I went to the store last week to compare my phone with the display. Because I used to have the mytouch 4g and it took three tries to get one with a nice display. So I was surprise, when I saw the display model and colors were not as vibrant as mine. Man did I get Lucky, first try and it's a winner.
This is interesting. I ran a "dmesg |grep panel" and it returned sharp. I wonder if anyone would get Sony.
Mine is noticeably worse than my MT4G that had the good screen.
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If you ask me, there is no doubt that there are two panels for this device. My first TBolt (which had several problems) had a really bad screen and I complained about it in another thread like this one. I had it exchanged and the new one is VERY much better. The first one was not crisp, colors were bad, looked blown out next to my DInc OLED. The replacement is crisp and the colors are beautiful.
I didn't get a chance to compare side-by-side, but everyone who had seen my first one, even my wife who is pretty oblivious about these things, would say that the new one is dramatically better.
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If you ask me, there is no doubt that there are two panels for this device. My first TBolt (which had several problems) had a really bad screen and I complained about it in another thread like this one. I had it exchanged and the new one is VERY much better. The first one was not crisp, colors were bad, looked blown out next to my DInc OLED. The replacement is crisp and the colors are beautiful.
I didn't get a chance to compare side-by-side, but everyone who had seen my first one, even my wife who is pretty oblivious about these things, would say that the new one is dramatically better.
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Thanks, could some of you with good screens do a dmesg in terminal and report if you have a sharp or Sony panel. Make sure you restart then immediately run the terminal and dmesg command. Mine is a sharp so I'm thinking it is the bad display. Also if you can post some pictures of the screen from the side at extreme angles.
I will try to take some pictures of mine and post them tomorrow.
Before some of you start stating your opinions about looking at the screen at angles, yes there are situations where you are viewing at angles. Also it has been proven at least in the MT4G with the bad sharp display that the colors are not as vivid as with the sony screen even when looking straight on.
Mine is made in Taiwan. If you have a good one post where it was made please.
Mine returned Sharp.. and the screen is much better than my OG droid and my wife's fasicnate. I can read this post at ~160ish degrees, sooo.. no idea
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dr_drache said:
Mine returned Sharp.. and the screen is much better than my OG droid and my wife's fasicnate. I can read this post at ~160ish degrees, sooo.. no idea
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Reading this board may not be enough to tell. I will be interested to see if anyone has a Sony screen to compare.
The point is, everything I do on this phone can be done at that angle, in relation to using the screen. Colors do not change, only the brightness, as to be expected from a gloss screen (and gloss screen protector).
I personally think that shows a quality screen.
Definitely not something to worry about.
FYI : I have my dpi set to 200 if that matters
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Here are some more pictures which stand out more with green colors. You can really tell the difference as you tilt to angles and the deep green contrast is lost and it is hard to define the icons. The middle picture is taken from straight on and you can see the difference. I think on the Good Sony displays there will be no difference when looking from angles. I really suspect that the same display problems are following from HTC and the MT4G.
Is there any way to tell my looking at the hardware number what screen we have?
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Is there any way to tell my looking at the hardware number what screen we have?
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No I doubt it, we could never tell with the MT4G. The only one thing that seemed to hold true in the beginning was the ones made in China had a higher percentage of the good screens and more of the ones made in Taiwan had the more of the bad ones.
i have a sharp panel as well. i'm no connoisseur apparently because i think my screen looks just as good as my old incredible.
I have one made in taiwan and it is essentially flawless, only thing wrong with it is 2 very tiny dots of light leak which can only be seen in pitch black
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No I doubt it, we could never tell with the MT4G. The only one thing that seemed to hold true in the beginning was the ones made in China had a higher percentage of the good screens and more of the ones made in Taiwan had the more of the bad ones.
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Odd, mine is made in Taiwan, are all bolts produced there now?
dmesg says sharp panel, but I have no complaints about viewing angle or contrast after quite a bit of fiddling with it and trying to find something to whine about.
I have a sharp panel and it's better than the display model at my local store. I used to own a mytouch 4g, it took three tries to get a good display. And the good display was made in china. My TB is made in Taiwan.
This would explain why some claim to have gorilla glass style display that can't be scratched and others are getting scratches from car keys.
My first phone the digitizer went out after a drop out of the car (no glass broken or cosmetic issues just said touch panel- fail) and the second phone has light leakage not just at the bottom but at the corners too. There is a gap at the right corner for whatever to get into my phone.
I want to know if there is a different 'nicer' panel. It seems quite a few people are popping up with broken digitizers...
The phone I have is a Sharp lq043y1dx04
How do I know? Because I busted mine open to try and fix my broken digitizer. You can see pics and read the story in my post "Anyone want to see the inside of a thunderbolt?"
Still no replacements out there :-(
Digitizer or LCD
I have not taken this phone apart. But I did replace the digitizer on the HTC INC. The Digitizer is separate from the LCD in that phone. Does anyone know if the Digitizer is separate in the Thunderbolt? If so, it does not matter who the manufacturer of the LCD is.
I to agree with this thread that the digitizer on the Thunderrbolt is very easily scratched especially compared to the HTC INC.
i just wonder why the **** some N10s has no lightbleed and others has it all over the screen.
WHY?
thats the big question.
has anyone opend their devices and found something that differ from others or found some loose/to tightend screws?
also i wonder why it is on some devices that the top half is brighter than the bottom screen?.
also i wonder why some people at samsung quality check havnt got fired yet?
its about time they do something.
I suggest we create a thread "Post photos of your Nexus 10 showing a black screen at XX% brightness". That would be a "wall of shame" to send to Google/Samsung. Not sure what the XX would be. 75%? 100%?
Doesn't really matter if its 75 or 100. The camera will auto expose and the images and exposure for every different picture will be different.
I dont care about light bleed, its minimal and I dont see on normal conditions.
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i just wonder why the **** some N10s has no lightbleed and others has it all over the screen.
WHY?
thats the big question.
has anyone opend their devices and found something that differ from others or found some loose/to tightend screws?
also i wonder why it is on some devices that the top half is brighter than the bottom screen?.
also i wonder why some people at samsung quality check havnt got fired yet?
its about time they do something.
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The only time I notice light bleed is when I boot up, and and I'm like wtf? I have then I quickly forget about it until I see a post on the forums about it.
Yeah you only notice it on screens with black background
Over the last few years I have haunted the Asus Transformer (through several versions) and now the Nexus tablet forums and ALL tablet products have various levels of light bleed which vary even between devices made on the same assembly line. It is like an echo that never dies.
If your device cannot be used due to excessive light bleed then RMA or sell it. If you are expecting no light bleed then, at this time, with this screen technology, tablets are not for you. From what I have read it does not matter which manufacturer, tablets have lightbleed.
This may sound harsh but see for yourself by reading other Tablet forums. You will read similar to identical complaints. Some perceived and some real (ASUS Transformer TF201 WiFi strength):
> Lightbleed
> WiFi poor signal strength to repeated dropped connections
> Poor build quality
> OTA releases that break something
> Poor video playback
> Interface stutter
> Reboots, poor battery life ... etc
I am not saying that you should put up with a poor product more that you should vote with your wallet and your consumer rights like RMAing a defective device.
The thing is about the N10, people might be able to deal with it if it was just some bright spots, but the thing that kills me is that they're bright yellow spots which can easily be seen in the bottom right menu bar thing at all times. This is by far the worst tablet I've ever seen in terms of lightbleed.
I never use my tablet completely in the dark at 100% brightness. I saw the light bleed when I tested it after reading these posts but then when i turn the brightness back down to 50% its gone. I don't even notice it in the dark parts of movies. I understand that there are probably some worse cases than mine, but sometimes I think people are too picky.
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I never use my tablet completely in the dark at 100% brightness. I saw the light bleed when I tested it after reading these posts but then when i turn the brightness back down to 50% its gone. I don't even notice it in the dark parts of movies. I understand that there are probably some worse cases than mine, but sometimes I think people are too picky.
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I am not sure if it's a matter of being too picky. I think what kills is that the lightbleed on this table is yellow. If it was white I would tolerate it better.
Start two more threads just to be sure...
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Techie2012 said:
I am not sure if it's a matter of being too picky. I think what kills is that the lightbleed on this table is yellow. If it was white I would tolerate it better.
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My minor light bleed is pure white.
I don't have any issues with lightbleed on my N10. Is it there an I don't notice it? That may be the case, I guess I don't stare at a black screen and have unrealistic expectations... Great tablet and would recommend it to anyone!
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i just wonder why the **** some N10s has no lightbleed and others has it all over the screen.
WHY?
thats the big question.
has anyone opend their devices and found something that differ from others or found some loose/to tightend screws?
also i wonder why it is on some devices that the top half is brighter than the bottom screen?.
also i wonder why some people at samsung quality check havnt got fired yet?
its about time they do something.
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You must not understand manufacturing at all
I opened my N10, the screen is sealed with the front glass inside a plastic frame. The only screws inside are on a metal frame that holds th battery in place, which have no effect on the extent of lightbleed.
With tablets nowadays even with the Asus (which I've tried myself), the screen is attached to the touch panel (digitizer) via strong double sided tape. The screen is really thin so any flex during installation will cause it to be uneven causing some of the light bleed. You can probably remedy it by using a blow dryer or heat gun in low setting to be able to lift up the screen from the touch panel where you have light bleed and even it back down. You have to be careful not to bend the screen too much or it will crack. Again this will probably be a very thin screen (about 2-3mm) and fragile screen. IMO dont even try it and just get it exchanged and hope you get a better one.
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The screen is fused to the digitiser, ie no double sided tape, and it is impossible to separate screen and digigiser
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The screen is fused to the digitiser, ie no double sided tape, and it is impossible to separate screen and digigiser
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Not sure youre right. I work for an ATM company and we have touchscreen machines and the touchpanel is sandwiched in between the LCD and front glass. But on tablets the screen is not fused but they use a double sided tape. Whats probably fused is the gorilla glass and the digitizer. Post edited
Also I know this because I've completely removed a dead screen from an asus prime before. Once you have both separated the glass has a thin film (digitizer) on it and on the bottom of the film is a ribbon cable. The screen itself has nothing on the front but a thin 1/4 foam tape around it.
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aznmode said:
Not sure youre right. I work for an ATM company and we have touchscreen machines and the touchpanel is sandwiched in between the LCD and front glass. But on tablets the screen is not fused but they use a double sided tape. Whats probably fused is the gorilla glass and the digitizer. Post edited
Also I know this because I've completely removed a dead screen from an asus prime before. Once you have both separated the glass has a thin film (digitizer) on it and on the bottom of the film is a ribbon cable. The screen itself has nothing on the front but a thin 1/4 foam tape around it.
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I might have misread your post, but I was talking about the nexus 10, Sorry for the confusion
It used to be that there was a piece of double sided sticky tape (like I have on my old tab) between digitiser/ protective glass and LCD screen. For the nexus 10 howver,this website says its all fused together
"Everything else seems to come out just as easily, according to the write-up. But the Nexus 10 display and digitizer are fused together, so there's no chance of separating the two. " http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/google-nexus-10-rated-extremely-repairable-after-teardown-50009785/
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If you are expecting no light bleed then, at this time, with this screen technology, tablets are not for you.
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This is a ridiculous statement ..there are plenty of tablets without light bleed and everyone should expect to not have light bleed. Now the bleed I'm talking about are the blotchy spot types where there is glow coming from one area that extends out from one/multiple areas. Which the N10 has very bad blotches. Totally unacceptable. Slight even "leak" around the edges is one thing but a yellow blob coming out of a corner when you watch videos is ridiculous.
My HP Touchpad made my 2 N10s look like crap in regards to light bleed. Yeah, a touchpad.
I hope they get it right soon... prob will give it another go in a month at a physical store if I hear good things
So I cracked the glass on my DNA So I decided to take the opportunity to show everyone the inside of the DNA
I still have all the parts, so if anyone wants specific shots let me know.
P.S. Do we think the yellow gasket and white goo = waterproofing?
Cool!!!
Thank for sharing these pictures.
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hey i was wondering if you can show me the leds of capacitive buttons!!!!
Thanks man. These are definitely helpful to see.
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No LEDs
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hey i was wondering if you can show me the leds of capacitive buttons!!!!
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No LEDs.. It appears to be a strip of Electroluminescent Paper or a bit LCD back-lighting without the LCD-ness. My bet is on the latter.
(Sorry, by this point everything is glued to hell... so I had to move to destructive disassembly)
Hope this helped!
Cheers,
so cool, thanks!
i was triyng to look for that "soft spot" on the back right which if pushed, caused the LED discoloration..there appears to be A LOT between the actual screen and the back plate, and it's symmetrical...yet the left side didn't have hte same soft spot the right did.
that's what caused my blue dot issue..but judging from these pics, there's alot between the back and the screen..so man, even lightly pushing that spot showed the discoloration..
I thought I was the only one with the blue dot issue, I sent mine back to Wal-Mart & they sent me a new one thank goodness. My bluish blush spot was about 1/2" above the home button & a little off to the left.
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That is exactly where the magnet for the rear speaker is.
I tore a part my evo lte when replacing the screen. The DNA looks like it was designed by brilliant engineers. The evo, in comparison, looks like it was designed by a carpenter.
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No LEDs.. It appears to be a strip of Electroluminescent Paper or a bit LCD back-lighting without the LCD-ness. My bet is on the latter.
(Sorry, by this point everything is glued to hell... so I had to move to destructive disassembly)
Hope this helped!
Cheers,
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There are LEDs, they just are not on the LCD assembly, they are on the front side of the speaker board on bottom. I took my DNA apart and posted pictures of it all a while ago on droidforums, i posted link bellow, you can see the LEDs (there is two of them) on the front side picture of the speaker board which goes on bottom.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ht...230676-htc-dna-disassembly-teardown-done.html
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There are LEDs, they just are not on the LCD assembly, they are on the front side of the speaker board on bottom. I took my DNA apart and posted pictures of it all a while ago on droidforums, i posted link bellow, you can see the LEDs (there is two of them) on the front side picture of the speaker board which goes on bottom.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ht...230676-htc-dna-disassembly-teardown-done.html
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Is this what I'm supposed to be looking at?
http://s8.postimage.org/wu97wki5h/2012_11_24_14_09_39_128.jpg
Look at this photo.. the LCD covers up pretty much the whole area and would block anything coming from the speaker assembly. How would it shine through?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1639055&d=1358014101
I feel like that what this piece is for?
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...e0584da09/50f3058a/1/6/3/9/0/6/0/DSC05692.jpg
but I've got all this white goo there..
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Is this what I'm supposed to be looking at?
http://s8.postimage.org/wu97wki5h/2012_11_24_14_09_39_128.jpg
Look at this photo.. the LCD covers up pretty much the whole area and would block anything coming from the speaker assembly. How would it shine through?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1639055&d=1358014101
I feel like that what this piece is for?
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...e0584da09/50f3058a/1/6/3/9/0/6/0/DSC05692.jpg
but I've got all this white goo there..
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yes the first picture you linked is correct. Those two leds on bottom are the LEDs for the touch buttons. Trust me the light goes through lol, that bluish white film or whatever color it is, is tinted and light passes through it. Try holding a flash light behind it. They tint it so the light doesnt just shine right through and look ugly, this way it has a even spread and isnt blinding. Even though id rather have mine a little brighter.
I was able to adjust their brightness with this app..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ubmV2b2QubG9nZ3JhcGgiXQ..
Don't think they're maxed out with the default settings.
tjwaterskier said:
So I cracked the glass on my DNA So I decided to take the opportunity to show everyone the inside of the DNA
I still have all the parts, so if anyone wants specific shots let me know.
P.S. Do we think the yellow gasket and white goo = waterproofing?
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yes, the yellow gasket is for waterproofing. wondering if you would be willing to part with any of the parts for some s-off work
LoL. Neeevverrmiinnndd
is it possible to separate the lcd from glass without damaging it? my glass is shattered,but lcd is fine.
mine is also broken and i am just about to order the digitizer only, is it possible to replace only the digitizer?
Looking at these made me glance at my phone and I noticed.. My camera isn't centered on the back!! WHAT?!?! LoL
How hard is it to just remove and re attach the rear housing? my rear notification LED doesn't work and I want to fix it.
So I went into AT&T today with a view to getting the M8.
The M8 was along side the S5 and I though it strange that the screen on the S5 was so much brighter than the M8.
I went into the M8 settings to set the brightness to maximum but found it was already set.
As I turned the phone slightly sideways it suddenly got brighter.
I wear polarized glasses and in their wisdom HTC have made the polarizing of the display such that it is very dim when held in portrait mode.
This is not the case with my vivid or any other HTC phone I have owned.
Damn, I was so looking forward to getting the M8 but this of all things would be a deal breaker for me.
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So I went into AT&T today with a view to getting the M8.
The M8 was along side the S5 and I though it strange that the screen on the S5 was so much brighter than the M8.
I went into the M8 settings to set the brightness to maximum but found it was already set.
As I turned the phone slightly sideways it suddenly got brighter.
I wear polarized glasses and in their wisdom HTC have made the polarizing of the display such that it is very dim when held in portrait mode.
This is not the case with my vivid or any other HTC phone I have owned.
Damn, I was so looking forward to getting the M8 but this of all things would be a deal breaker for me.
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It's not that great out doors either
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Hah, wow very interesting they did indeed polarize the display. Just went and tested myself. Being in Seattle doesn't lend itself to wearing sunglasses often but sure enough rotating the phone to landscape changes the effect.
Oh and outdoor usage isn't bad Imo just take off automatic brightness and Max it out and you're good. Automatic brightness on every Android phone I have owned has been nothing short of garbage lol. So manual adjustment is the way to go. Sorry you decided against the M8 it's a hell of a phone (coming from someone who switched from the S4)
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Hah, wow very interesting they did indeed polarize the display. Just went and tested myself. Being in Seattle doesn't lend itself to wearing sunglasses often but sure enough rotating the phone to landscape changes the effect.
Oh and outdoor usage isn't bad Imo just take off automatic brightness and Max it out and you're good. Automatic brightness on every Android phone I have owned has been nothing short of garbage lol. So manual adjustment is the way to go. Sorry you decided against the M8 it's a hell of a phone (coming from someone who switched from the S4)
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Yes, it's a great pity. I have owned HTC devices for the last 7 or 8 years at least.
I have +2 magnifiers built into the bottom my sun glasses that I use everyday for driving and very often when I am out fly fishing.
I just happened to dash into the store this morning wearing them instead of my readers.
I would have been really unhappy if I only discovered this post purchase.
There might be two manufacturers for the screen? I've seen a few threads like this now.
I have no issues with any of my polarized sunglasses. Two are Maui Jim and one pair of Raybans.
I used my M8 today in the bright sun. I had no trouble seeing the screen at all. I don't wear glasses and have perfect vision though . It's much better than the AMOLED was on my Note 2.
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There might be two manufacturers for the screen? I've seen a few threads like this now.
I have no issues with any of my polarized sunglasses. Two are Maui Jim and one pair of Raybans.
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Interesting. I think the other threads have been to do with color saturation/contrast issue variance between batches of M8's.
I think what we are dealing with here is not the display itself but the protective glass over it or a laminate which may have been applied to it.
My Vivid does not suffer from this problem at all. It would be interesting to get HTC's comment on this.
Try different sunglasses. 3 different types of polarization mostly. Horizontal, vertical, and circular. Let's say the screen is horizontally polarized and the glasses are vertical, that would yield a very dim screen. Just try turning your glasses 90° and see if that works. Instead of blaming the phone, blame your glasses, or both
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Same prescription sun glasses work fine with all my other HTC's, Iphones, Samsung and others.
They don't work fine with the M8. What conclusion would you draw?
I was just in touch with HTC "technical" support to see if there could maybe be an issue with some screens and not with others.
I cut and paste my OP for them to read. This was their response:-
"The brightness on the phone by default is set to Auto-Brightness, which actually adjusts the brightness based on the lighting in the area at the time. Depending on where you are and how much light, the screen will be dimmer or brighter."
I had already explained that the brightness was set to max and not auto, and asked if he understood how polarizing works:-
"I'm sorry, but all I can say is that the screen is designed so that it can be viewed from nearly any angle. As such, the screen very thin against the body of the phone. Which could interfere with the polarization effect."
"I'm sorry? the M8 is available in different colors. But the screen is always the same"
Today I popped into and looked M8's at both Best Buy and AT&T.
Neither had the polarizing issue that has been reported by others here and elsewhere on the web.
I took more time to compare the M8 and S5 side by side. The S5 does appear to have more usable screen space and it also has a few other things going for it. However the cover over the charging port will drive me around the bend specially having to access it every day. It is not easy to open at all unless you have long nails. Wireless charging would not work for me as I will put the phone in a rugged protective case.
So, I guess it's the M8 for me and a continued loyal HTC owner!
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Today I popped into and looked M8's at both Best Buy and AT&T.
Neither had the polarizing issue that has been reported by others here and elsewhere on the web.
I took more time to compare the M8 and S5 side by side. The S5 does appear to have more usable screen space and it also has a few other things going for it. However the cover over the charging port will drive me around the bend specially having to access it every day. It is not easy to open at all unless you have long nails. Wireless charging would not work for me as I will put the phone in a rugged protective case.
So, I guess it's the M8 for me and a continued loyal HTC owner!
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My phone doesn't polarize either, with out without sun glasses, if that is what the OP meant. It might have been an issue with the in store unit? Wouldn't be the first time I've seen issues with in store phones.
Just got 2 M8s from T-mobile last week. Mine has the polarizing issue and my wifes does not.
As far as the color issue in other threads they both seem to be on the cooler side as they look identical without polarizing sunglasses on.
My guess is they have two versions of screen filters, one vertical and maybe one circular. I think most phones are circular these days since they do not affect sunglasses which I believe are mostly if now all linear polarized. I have a circular polarizer for my camera lens i will play with tonight to see what I can come up with.
Probably going to try and exchange this phone in store to get one that I can see while I have glasses on. It makes navigation useless with this issue.
I used my M8in the bright sun. I had no trouble seeing the screen at all
samsat said:
So I went into AT&T today with a view to getting the M8.
The M8 was along side the S5 and I though it strange that the screen on the S5 was so much brighter than the M8.
I went into the M8 settings to set the brightness to maximum but found it was already set.
As I turned the phone slightly sideways it suddenly got brighter.
I wear polarized glasses and in their wisdom HTC have made the polarizing of the display such that it is very dim when held in portrait mode.
This is not the case with my vivid or any other HTC phone I have owned.
Damn, I was so looking forward to getting the M8 but this of all things would be a deal breaker for me.
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M7 was the same way.
Solution: Don't hold your phone in landscape when wearing your polarized sunglasses. Easy enough fix for me.
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Same prescription sun glasses work fine with all my other HTC's, Iphones, Samsung and others.
They don't work fine with the M8. What conclusion would you draw?
I was just in touch with HTC "technical" support to see if there could maybe be an issue with some screens and not with others.
I cut and paste my OP for them to read. This was their response:-
"I'm sorry? the M8 is available in different colors. But the screen is always the same"
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I wouldn't be so sure, check this out :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0osrpESuFkQ
Slap any descent screen protector on it ( not sure about the glass ones, but the normal ones from SPIGEN I know work ) and it will correct it. Had the same issue when I mounted my N7 in my car in landscape mode, could not see it when i had my glasses on. Slap on the screen protector and it was clear as day.
Just tested my M8 by laying a second protector still in the package for an S4 over it, and tada.. i can see it again with glasses
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Slap any descent screen protector on it ( not sure about the glass ones, but the normal ones from SPIGEN I know work ) and it will correct it. Had the same issue when I mounted my N7 in my car in landscape mode, could not see it when i had my glasses on. Slap on the screen protector and it was clear as day.
Just tested my M8 by laying a second protector still in the package for an S4 over it, and tada.. i can see it again with glasses
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Can you specify which spiegen protector you're referring to, there are several on amazon and this issue is driving me nuts.
Try these. I had an extra s4 one, it was in the blue package. I would imagine any descent one would work though. For those not seeing the issue, make sure your glasses are polarized. If you don't see it, turn the phone 90 degrees and it will show. Happens to Any device. All glasses, that are polarized, are polarized horizontally to avoid reflection glare. IPads all do the same etc etc etc.... Google polarization and how it works for why.... I'll let the experts describe it
http://www.spigen.com/brands/htc/all-new-htc-one-m8-screen-protector-steinheil.html
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For those not seeing the issue, make sure your glasses are polarized. If you don't see it, turn the phone 90 degrees and it will show. Happens to Any device.
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Only LCD devices. Far as I know, AMOLED devices do not display any change due to polarized glasses. Polarizing filters are used in LCD screens, its a requirement of how they fundamentally work. AMOLED screens don't require/use such filters.
Thanks to rkennison I can confirm the following protector will solve the issue: Spigen® HTC One M8 Screen Protector Clear Steinheil [Ultra Crystal]... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IF5B18M/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_ihbBtb10WGCSZ
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Hi, I got the LG v30 yesterday from T-Mobile and today i noticed that the all around the screen there is light bleed . Does anyone else have it. Check in the dim room.
Here is the youtube link for the video i did
You probably going to need to give us your definition of light bleed because I'm not seeing light bleed. I'm seeing the screen and reflections off of the metal trim.
CHH2 said:
You probably going to need to give us your definition of light bleed because I'm not seeing light bleed. I'm seeing the screen and reflections off of the metal trim.
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Thats not a reflection the light bleeds all around the side es of the screen it between the screen and the metal.
I have it but the phone is so thin, I kind of expected it. It doesn't take away from the device in any way for me.
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I got my phone to do it finally. I had to shut off all the lights and turn the brightness up way beyond the point I'd ever actually use it at in such a situation. It's not really light bleed per se. The screen extends further and is masked to make the aspect ratio but the mask isn't taken as far out as they could have. Or they might have been able to. I'd have to go back and look at the tear down to see what's going on.
In my case the light bleed is just on the right hand side of the screen. I made a video of it here:
https://youtu.be/Q_XXkZnC-9Y
It's visible in any situation with low light. Even in a restaurant at night.
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In my case the light bleed is just on the right hand side of the screen. I made a video of it here:
https://youtu.be/Q_XXkZnC-9Y
It's visible in any situation with low light. Even in a restaurant at night.
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How high is your screen brightness ?
put on a case, problem solved.
I have it as well. I would call it clouding not bleed though. It's not a bright light leak on the edges of the screen. It's light clouding through out the screen on black when it's black.
Well I have it too. The glass of the screen have little gap between frame on the left side.
Got it on both sides, but not bothered as I haven't noticed it until just now. It's only visible when viewing the device from the back/sides at angles damn near approaching 90°. Not sure about the rest of you, but I don't view my screen from such angles, so for me it's a non-issue. I think it actually looks kinda cool when you look at it when scrolling through a vertical app drawer... feel like I'm in a Mass Effect elevator or something.
Dizzyrul3z said:
Well I have it too. The glass of the screen have little gap between frame on the left side.
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IP68 rating ?
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wireeater said:
I have it as well. I would call it clouding not bleed though. It's not a bright light leak on the edges of the screen. It's light clouding through out the screen on black when it's black.
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The term clouding got me searching and i found this
The second reply is very informative just in general
It depends on how visible they are with normal vision. Your camera is significantly overexposing the problem (unless your pointer normally looks like the glaring sun, in which case you have bigger problems). The CFG70's I've had looked bad with the phone camera I had at the time I took the pictures. I don't trust camera shots to represent what the screen looks like in reality unless taken by a credible reviewer anymore. Also, you should use a solid black image without a super white pointer the screen is illuminating to give a more correct representation of the back light bleed; the three spots around the pointer look far worse than the rest of the screen, and that could be the fault of the pointer.
Very probably you have the brightness at max on standard response. These monitors are far brighter at max than many other monitors out there.
400+ cd/m^2 is very bright and most people who calibrate their displays turn them down to around 120 cd/m^2 to make them easier on the eyes. I don't agree with doing this on a media screen though as the brightness helps the image a lot in movies and games. Turn the brightness down to something reasonable and most of your problem will probably go away if that is an acceptable solution to you. Also strobing should reduce the brightness and the problem as well if you're willing to live with it on.
I feel for people who can't just return to the vendor. I would try to make it tolerable with some of the above efforts, and if that's the only problem you have with the screen, I'd probably keep it. If you can see the bleed with the naked eye without a camera while watching movies or playing games, I'd consider returning it, but understand that every CFG70 I've had looked similar when overexposed on a phone camera.
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Camera pointed at a black screen IS going to over expose. That is normal. Photos must be adjusted so it looks as you see it
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IP68 rating ?
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Well, good idea. Im gonna try if fail I will give it back for a warranty.
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Camera pointed at a black screen IS going to over expose. That is normal. Photos must be adjusted so it looks as you see it
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I thought this was common sense
Dizzyrul3z said:
Well, good idea. Im gonna try if fail I will give it back for a warranty.
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IF it doesn't fail IP68, put a case on it. Problem solved. You won't see the so-called light bleed.
You want case on this anyway to protect the glass back.
I recommend this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74857344&postcount=191
but the first post in that thread has links to very inexpensive cases that will work.
I bought about a dozen case, in all price ranges, and like the Tudia the best.
The gap won't be an issue for the water and dust rating. It looks like it is just the mask they put behind the glass didn't go all the way to the frame while the screen extends further than what should be visible.
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IP68 rating ?
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The term clouding got me searching and i found this
The second reply is very informative just in general
Camera pointed at a black screen IS going to over expose. That is normal. Photos must be adjusted so it looks as you see it
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ChazzMatt said:
IF it doesn't fail IP68, put a case on it. Problem solved. You won't see the so-called light bleed.
You want case on this anyway to protect the glass back.
I recommend this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74857344&postcount=191
but the first post in that thread has links to very inexpensive cases that will work.
I bought about a dozen case, in all price ranges, and like the Tudia the best.
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Thanks mate! I bought tempered glass with black frames that arrives today.
The case I use on my old Oneplus X is IMAK Cowboy. I love the sandstone feel and good grip. Im gonna buy imak defenitly
Dizzyrul3z said:
Well, good idea. Im gonna try if fail I will give it back for a warranty.
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What i wanted to say is there cannot be a gap if the v30 has an ip68 rating. No way for water to enter
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adsubzero said:
I thought this was common sense
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Hah, most people look at the photo and go ZOMG!
adjusting exposure to match the way it appears is necessary provided whatever camera used allows for it
This can be quite tricky to do
One Twelve said:
What i wanted to say is there cannot be a gap if the v30 has an ip68 rating. No way for water to enter
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Right. There's no real gap. It's just the black masking of the curved glass edge is not dark enough sometimes.
I always use a case on my phone, so I don't even bother standing in the dark trying to find alleged "light bleed". That's not how I use a phone (without a case), so no use trying to find an issue that has no real world substance for me.
(IF there is a gap, and it fails IP68, then of course return it under warranty.)
ChazzMatt said:
IF it doesn't fail IP68, put a case on it. Problem solved. You won't see the so-called light bleed.
You want case on this anyway to protect the glass back.
I recommend this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74857344&postcount=191
but the first post in that thread has links to very inexpensive cases that will work.
I bought about a dozen case, in all price ranges, and like the Tudia the best.
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Hey folks.
I don't think it's a problem It's not actually a gap between glass and phone frame. It's not even actually a leak.
In fact glass has it's thickness, and edge of the glass pane is exposed over the frame. In this conditions glass starts to behave similarly to optic fiber. So part of the light emitted by the display is not let through the glass and starts to bounce between glass edges (inside the glass pane), to eventually become visible on the edge of the screen. If You look closely it's uniform thickness light, and visible in parts where on the edge of screen is something bright with bright color.
So be not afraid, nothing bad is happening here