Hi
My unlocked US streak directly bought from dell is on its way to me in Texas.
Will it work to make calls and 3g data when I travel to India ? It is triband gsm baseband out there used by operators and users can use any phone.
I m worried if I have to flash europe baseband over?
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Ok I did some reading and think 2g calls should work
3g in india is 2100MHz
Streak should support 2100MHz so it should work too. Can somepne confirm?
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the streak is quad band 2g, in other words, a world phone so you will b able to make calls, not sure about 3g though
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One related question to all, so that when someone knowledgeable passes by, I can get my answer:
Q: Is the UMTS band frequency for Dell Streak (US unlocked version) a software configuration thing or is it part of the hardware radios?
I saw a screenshot of the phone settings on the web that seems to suggest the Dell Streak having the option to choose the 900 MHZ UMTS band, if needed. Can someone confirm?
according to gsmarena.com, there are two models of the streak in terms of 3g bands go, one is the 900/2100 version and the other is the 850/1900/2100 (att/rogers) version. depending on which one it is that you get will determine which frequencies your phone will work on so yes, to answer your question, band frequency is part of hardware radios.
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Does anyone has been able to use dell streak 5 unlock from dell with T mobile USA and get 3g data service?
I just bougth a aws one off ebay that works with tmobile 3g, but They are rare to show up on there.
what is aws?
Aws is 1700 Mhz 3g used in Tmobile in the US. The unlocked streak from Dell has only the at&t 3g support and 2100mhz
Aws streak is rare and not on sale from Dell
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OK done some checking here and did not find a thread about this so I will ask.
I am not the most technical guy but I did manage to successfully unlock my rogers x10a and root it from the x10a to x10i. I was under the impression that if rooted to x10i I would be able to use this phone with Wind. The issue is that wind uses aws 1700/2100 frequency which I read that x10i supports and if rooted would enable those frequencies.
Most of what I have read has been mixed. Some claim they have their rogers x10a working on the wind network after rooting to x10i and some say it won't work.
For me it does not work. I put in my Wind sim card and all I can get is Wind Away and not Wind Home. I am not sure if the reason is it can't be done or I am missing a step somewhere. I know the apn setting but entering them and saving them made no difference.
I would just like to know if its possible and if anyone has been successful using there x10 with Wind?
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Hey gmaronski,
As long as it supports the AWS 1700/2100 frequency it will work. By looking at the specs from www.gsmarena.com it appears that it should work. The mini and mini pro look like they would not though. Hope this helps.
Have a great day.
Gail, WIND Specialist
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I have this phone on Wind. There are two versions of this phone, x10a (Rogers) and x10i (rest of the world), and as long as you get an x10i, it will work on Wind.
Sorry bad news.
Wind operates on UMTS Band 4 which is known as AWS and operates 1700up / 2100 down. Don't be confused by the 2100 when looking at phone specs, this is a 1700 band. When 2100 is mentioned in phone specs it means Band 1 which is knows as IMT.
X10A supports Bands 1, 2, 5, 6 (2100, 1900, 850, 800)
X10I supports bands 1, 4, 8 (2100, 1700, 900)
Wind is soley band 4, so if you want to have Wind service you will need an X10I.
Changing firmware to X10I WILL NOT change your phone to x10i, this is determined by a hardware chip on the phone, changing software will not change this.
Thanks for the explanation
OK that seems logical to me. Its very confusing though when you read comments like this.
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Carrier:Windbasically the x10i is running on the bands of "HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100" and the x10a (north american version) is running on the bands of "HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 / 800" now what you can do is flash an x10a with an x10i's firmware and vise versa and that firmware will activate the 1700 band on an x10a if you get what I mean. the radios are interchangeable on each models. for example i've got an x10i and flashed it to an x10a now i'm able to get 3G with Rogers rather than 3G on WIND with the 1700 band because now the phone is acting like its an x10a.
This guy is saying flashing the firmware activates the bands needed for wind. I wish people would know what they are talking about before they write these stupid comments.
X10a does not work with wind. Even if you flash a x10a with the x10i firmware. An x10a will not work with wind. Unless you physically change the antenna on the x10a with the x10i antenna.
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Yes I know from personal experience and Balur's and your comments reinforced it. I was only hoping I was wrong. Guess I will stay with fido for this Phone and Wind for my HTC.
Thanks for the comments.
it is possible to flash software and activate AWS.But I am not sure on X10
canuckken said:
OK that seems logical to me. Its very confusing though when you read comments like this.
Phone Collector Join Date:Aug 2009
Location:Edmonton
Posts:155
Carrier:Windbasically the x10i is running on the bands of "HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100" and the x10a (north american version) is running on the bands of "HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 / 800" now what you can do is flash an x10a with an x10i's firmware and vise versa and that firmware will activate the 1700 band on an x10a if you get what I mean. the radios are interchangeable on each models. for example i've got an x10i and flashed it to an x10a now i'm able to get 3G with Rogers rather than 3G on WIND with the 1700 band because now the phone is acting like its an x10a.
This guy is saying flashing the firmware activates the bands needed for wind. I wish people would know what they are talking about before they write these stupid comments.
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I Have ersonally activated the Aws band on A NOTE ,Note 2, LG Optimus 2 and I will be trying it on a galaxy s3 I747m
canuckken said:
OK done some checking here and did not find a thread about this so I will ask.
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I have never heard of this working on a X10 but....
For the xperia ion if you SIM unlock it then flash the i version stock ftf, it unlocks bands blocked by att.
Maybe a SIM unlock is required.
I found that I am having a pretty slow internet surfing speed after flsah with Simple Streak ROM 1.2 By Spidla (Thank you, it's a great ROM!!).
Why I can't recieve 3G signal on T-Mobile ? I have 4G plan anyway. Edge really kills me as it only have a speed of 12 KB/s.
Could anyone help me out ? What ROM else could have 3G signal on T-Mobile? Let me know as well ~~~ Thank you guys
It's a Dell retail model (unlocked one, not Att, maybe), T-mbile assistant says that probably my device it's not the AWS model, which support UMTS900, UMTS1700, UMTS2100.
My service tag is G85Z1P1.
Your streak is likely the US model and not the AWS model.
That can only get 3g on At&t and not Tmo
I have figured out the problem. I checked that there are people selling AWS model at $750 on eBay, is there anywhere possible for me to get an AWS besides that one? Thank you
You will need to get a AWS streak, really doesnt matter how.
Might be cheaper and easier to try getting one from Cincanatti Bell and unlocking it. I'd assume theirs are new stock. But I cant help you with details since I havnt tried it myself.
If you buy off ebay you'll need to be the judge of price and condition and age of the streak.
Looks like they have the AWS model in stock. But it's hard to get one from Cincinnati as I live in Buffalo.
Maybe try to change the chips or the antenna. It's radiculous as Streak 7 can support 850/900/1700/1900 at the same time. why not our streak.
powmars said:
I have checked that theirs support UMTS 800/900/1800/1900. Still doesn't have tmo's 1700.
Maybe try to change the chips or the antenna. It's radiculous as Streak 7 can support 850/900/1700/1900 at the same time. why not our streak.
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Because that's how they built it.
Have any body in the world tried Streak 7's Frameware.apk and service.odex on streak ? bricked or not ?
The AT&T Streaks and the ones purchased directly from Dell unlocked do not have the hardware for the T-Mobile bands. So no software will fix that.
What if I use the Antenna and capacitance that can support 900/1700/2100 frequency? ripe some from T-mobile made hardware and soldering them onto the Streak chip board ?
Or, If anyone lives in Cincinati could help me get one from Cincinati Bell.
You'd need to get one off an AWS streak to be sure it's compatable, then there's the issue of weither or not the mainboard will accept a diff radio.
I have tried hard to find someone in Cincinnati could help me out. And also it will be riscky to have a AWS model as ATT is processing buy off T mobile, if they successes, then T mobile 3G will dead and all 3G users will have to exchange their phones(probably only the one has contracts)
Do you know any other carrier in US use 850/1900 for 3G ?
powmars said:
I have tried hard to find someone in Cincinnati could help me out. And also it will be riscky to have a AWS model as ATT is processing buy off T mobile, if they successes, then T mobile 3G will dead and all 3G users will have to exchange their phones(probably only the one has contracts)
Do you know any other carrier in US use 850/1900 for 3G ?
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I am not sure why you think that the T-Mobile bands would be dead. I think that in order to take advantage of existing infra-structure new phones after a merger would work on both bands and your existing phone would continue to work as it does now.
check out this link:http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/03/21/att-says-t-mobile-3g-phones-will-need-to-be-replaced/
AWS model will only work with T mobile 3G, sucks when traveling aboard.
I am currently looking at purchasing a used Dell Streak, it is in Australia (so am I) but the seller says it was originally from the USA. Looking at a few different sites, the spec for American Streaks says UMTS 850. (Eg.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Dell_Streak )
The network I would most like to use here is Australia is Telstra's NextG network; it is described here: http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/3g_for_network_engineers
thus:
""3G" is a broad category of standards and services around "broadband" mobile wireless voice and data. Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) is part of this family and is the standard used for 3G services in Australia. Telstra's NextG product is a UMTS implementation using a Wideband CDMA (W-CDMA) radio carrier in the 850 MHz band. There are "legacy" pockets of 2100 MHz used in some areas. Most modems are capable of automatically switching between the two bands, though not always of making the best choice. Some Telstra technical staff recommend sticking to the 850 MHz band."
I know that the Dell Streak version sold here by Optus (Telstra didn't sell them)
was NOT usable on the NextG network, but the info above from the links seems to imply that a Streak built for the USA would be?
Am I correct, or am I missing something?
Thanks, Bernie.
Yes, the US Dell Streak will work on Telstra's NextG.
Currently using it. Getting around 2770kbps down and 1339kbps up.
so um.... hardware should be the same, so a baseband / radio flash + custom mod should enable it?
you running a custom rom or a us standard?
cheers mate
blues
Thanks bluhound,
I'm also interested to know if you can update an Aussie or UK version like live_blues suggests. Any idea?
Thanks, Bernie.
You don't have to flash anything. The US firmware will work with NextG out of the box.
I don't think you will be able to flash an Aussie ROM as only Optus has the Streak and that model operates on the 900Mhz freq, not Telstra's 850Mhz.
I am currently running on StreakDroid 1.9.1 with DSP v360.
Dell Streak FAQ - xda wiki
See the last two lines, roms do not determine/affect your 3G freqs or lock status, it's determined solely by the configuration applied to the device when it was manufactured.
Roms do not care what submodel/lock status you have, you can install any rom and it wont change anything here.
There is also no concept of a AUS rom as the only roms loaded on devices sold there are unbranded/retail (unless they changed it some time during it's lifetime)
thx Manii, so its a manufacturing thingy... interesting... im sporting a UK Streak in Oz, guess I would just have to try
I got a unlocked rogers streak but on whatever Rom I use I can't get 3g which it has the right bands I only get edge and the only way I can get cell service to work in the first place is if I put it as "gsm only" wcdma only or gsm/wcdma will not pick up any service anyone can help!!!???
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Sounds like you have an AWS Streak, which will never get 3G on Straight Talk due to hardware differences in the radio.
Yeah I know of the aws streak but I know rogers uses att bands
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If you're on Straight Talk you need to set up the APN (Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Network > Access Point Names) before the service will work correctly. You should have the APN info already, but if not it's on Straight Talk's website.
Done did that to and only edge and will only pick up anytype of cell service if I have GSM only picked
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My Streak is an unlocked unit that came direct from Dell. Devices that came straight from Dell were configured to use AT&T as their carrier, since AT&T is the largest GSM carrier in the country. While the unlocked Streaks could be used on T-Mobile, they never would get 3G/HSPA+ speeds on that network, because the radio frequencies T-Mobile uses are slightly different from AT&T. Dell did produce, in limited numbers, a Dell Streak compatible with T-Mobile frequencies. We refer to this type of Streak as the AWS Streak. Using an AWS Streak on AT&T would produce the same result as using a regular Streak on T-Mobile: 2G (EDGE) speeds and no better.
Straight Talk is an AT&T MVNO. They purchase signal from AT&T for use with their own lineup of phones as well as "Bring Your Own Device" plans. My unlocked Streak works perfectly on Straight Talk's service, with HSPA+ speeds. If it were an AWS Streak I had and I were to use it on Straight Talk, I would do no better than 2G (EDGE) speeds.
Since your Streak does not get 3G/HSPA+ on Straight Talk, your Streak must be an AWS Streak.
That's eerie because I got it from a guy in Canada that got it from Rogers which has the same bands as att
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The only other explanation would be that your Streak's radio is defective, but I don't see that here. The one other thing to keep in mind is Rogers HSPA is on a separate network from their 2G service, unlike AT&T. That HSPA service could be running on the T-Mobile frequencies, which would be in keeping with Rogers' claims on their page for the Streak of it being capable of HSPA on their network, yet consistent with both your observations as well as the guy in Canada you got the Streak from.
I have forgotten how a dell streak 5 aws would behave on ATT networks. Can anyone pls help refresh my memory?
It seems data frequencies for ATT are UMTS 850 1900 2100. The aws runs 900 1700 2100.
Only one band overlaps ie umts 2100. How does a aws model with a ATT sim card respond in non-umts 2100 coverage areas??
Thanks.
AWS Streaks on AT&T, because of the different bands, are limited to EDGE (2G) speeds. Data will be slow, but should be usable.
If you don't wanna be stuck on edge ill trade ya a HTC vivid
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