Do I need ROOT? - Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What is ROOT and must this be necessary for a noob like me to use. What are the advantage of having your tablet root?
Any inputs appreciated.

greeny2010 said:
What is ROOT / What are the advantage of having your tablet root?
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Root means, you get root privilege. The root user is the same as an administrator. So you can edit all system files if necessary.
greeny2010 said:
and must this be necessary for a noob like me to use.
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No.
greeny2010 said:
Any inputs appreciated.
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You're welcome.

Well I needed root to get my Archos 101 to work with a USB dongle. Using instructions written down by Nenad, I have got it to work for a Huawei E1691. So far so good.

Generally speaking no, you don't need root. You will be able to do just about anything you want to do without it. I'm kind of a "power user" and I don't have root on my 101...but only because I want the warranty and if you root your device you kiss your warranty goodbye.
You won't be able to install any apps that require root, and there are a few useful ones, like Titanium Backup for example.
Without root you can still install the full market, get at all or near all of the apps, etc.

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Question about rooted tablet...

Just had my tablet rooted but it doesn't say 9.9.9 software version. Is something wrong? My friend said he followed the steps by indirect. it still says software version 1.4.0
Hello @jumpman23j welcome to the forums, WHICH ROOT METHOD DID YOU USE?
ok i'll guess and say Indirect's, if so please follow his other thread specificly to stop OTA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405418
Veronica
lavero.burgos said:
Hello @jumpman23j welcome to the forums, WHICH ROOT METHOD DID YOU USE?
ok i'll guess and say Indirect's, if so please follow his other thread specificly to stop OTA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405418
Veronica
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Indirect's, I followed the thread and it now it states 9.9.9 Am I good to go now? All further updates should be blocked now right? Thanks for your help.
jumpman23j said:
Indirect's, I followed the thread and it now it states 9.9.9 Am I good to go now? All further updates should be blocked now right? Thanks for your help.
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Yes you should be good now but i would even recommend to freeze device manager an unfreeze whenever you need to download from B&N app. You need titanium backup pro for that purpose.
Veronica
lavero.burgos said:
Yes you should be good now but i would even recommend to freeze device manager an unfreeze whenever you need to download from B&N app. You need titanium backup pro for that purpose.
Veronica
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Can you please explain the need for titanium backup pro again? So since I blocked the OTA I can't currently download from B&N? Sorry for the stupid questions. And thanks for your help and time.
Have you rebooted it at all. Mine only showed 9.9.9 after I did this
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jumpman23j said:
Can you please explain the need for titanium backup pro again? So since I blocked the OTA I can't currently download from B&N? Sorry for the stupid questions. And thanks for your help and time.
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TiBU Pro is so you can freeze DeviceManager.apk, which, if you want to feel truly safe from OTA's, you can do. the problem with doing that is that if DeviceManager is frozen, you can't dl from B&N. You would need to unfreeze (thaw) it, dl what you want, then freeze it again.
I am not sure this is absolutely needed, but hey, an ounce of prevention...
shawner47 said:
TiBU Pro is so you can freeze DeviceManager.apk, which, if you want to feel truly safe from OTA's, you can do. the problem with doing that is that if DeviceManager is frozen, you can't dl from B&N.
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Question: If I never ever plan to download from B&N, can I leave device manager frozen? Or would that screw something else up down the road?
jimmysuggs said:
Question: If I never ever plan to download from B&N, can I leave device manager frozen? Or would that screw something else up down the road?
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i think if you freeze device manager, the info for the owner of the device under device info becomes unavailable... not sure if thats important to you but yeah...
aside from freezing the B&N app store it also turns your owner info into unavailable.
if you did the extreme debloat from indirect's nook and zergy then the unavailable thing has already been applied...
Well I did nook and zergy way back, to root the tablet. But I don't know if I did extreme debloat, unless that's just automatically part of the nook and zergy process.
Is there a way to apply the extreme debloat option without running a whole new root?
jimmysuggs said:
Well I did nook and zergy way back, to root the tablet. But I don't know if I did extreme debloat, unless that's just automatically part of the nook and zergy process.
Is there a way to apply the extreme debloat option without running a whole new root?
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i think adb hijack is what your looking for... i don't really know how to use it though lol, might learn how soon though so i can push some vid files directly to /data instead of having to transfer to sd card first and then to /data
still have 2.5 gb of internal left...
Hello, my healthy advice is research a bit more until you understand more of how all this works. If you want to re-root and you do it wrong you can brick you device and get a big exclamation mark, read carefully and ask whatever you don't understand before you do things. If I be you first of all i will ask myself exactly how I want my nook to act, in the end you be sure if you want full debloat or not but if you do you wont have support on indirects thread (that is stated in his start post [OP]) is why I say read carefully.
Now for re-root with a newer version of nook&zergy by Indirect you need (must) to install his adb hijack application, you can find that application (app) in apps and themes section of this forum.
Have fun.
Veronica
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Veronica, thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
Question: What IS the adb highjack app? Do I need that?
jimmysuggs said:
Veronica, thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
Question: What IS the adb highjack app? Do I need that?
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0. Get a sandwitch and a soda
1. http://www.androidcentral.com/what-adb - That being explained...
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20774764&postcount=2
3. San Google is your friend
4. Yes you need that to re-root basically but is always good to have anyways - explained in step 2.
Veronica

[Q] I think I need to reroot...??

Im getting the problem that a lot of people have gotten, that the android market is no longer working (try to start it; You must add an account to the device to continue. Do you want to add one now?), probably due to an auto update. I had rolled back to 1.4.1 to root (which i later learned was unecessary), so the device updated itself a few weeks after my root. I used albert's method on a 4gb microSD.
Do I need to reroot the device? my concern is, will I lose all my apps, and all the settings of those apps? what all is lost / how should I go about fixing this?
anyone else have or know how to fix this issue?
go back to 1.4.0 and use albert's root sdcard method.
Will this cause it to try to update to 1.4.2 again in the future? Or will this fix it because the root was meant for blocking updates on 1.4.0?
I'll lose all my apps correct?
brutalmouse said:
Will this cause it to try to update to 1.4.2 again in the future? Or will this fix it because the root was meant for blocking updates on 1.4.0?
I'll lose all my apps correct?
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It all depends which root method you use to root but what you can do is always once rooted apply the the block separately by using titanium backup (indirect's method) that way you won't get the update, so far that is the most reliable way.
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My bad if this is a dumb question, but where can i find documentation on the indirect method? Instructions files etc.. Ready to try this one
brutalmouse said:
My bad if this is a dumb question, but where can i find documentation on the indirect method? Instructions files etc.. Ready to try this one
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In the development section.
How do i roll back to 1.4.0 with out any back updates and fastboot is not working with the adb fix?

Some Basic Q/A related to rooting

Hi!
I've been wanting to root my Canvas HD for the past month but did get success with sp tool..So I'm gonna try the Motochopper method which has reportedly high success rate... but because that tut was not very detailed, I have some doubts.
•I wanna know if I follow this method will I lose any data, app data, game progress, contacts etc etc.? And if there is a chance of that is there a way to backup these things? Apps like titanium and nandroid require root access which I don't have.
• When trying out the sp tool method some people reported that they lost their IMEI no. after rooting which is clearly a very serious issue and I don't wanna end up like that so does this method poses the same threat? if it does, is there a way so that I can take a backup of my IMEI no.??
•Do I need to take out my memory card/ battery?
Note: I am a noob in android rooting and stuff so please don't be harsh. I am currently in middle of the process
Thank you any help is much appreciated :fingers-crossed:
vermajai93 said:
Hi!
I've been wanting to root my Canvas HD for the past month but did get success with sp tool..So I'm gonna try the Motochopper method which has reportedly high success rate... but because that tut was not very detailed, I have some doubts.
•I wanna know if I follow this method will I lose any data, app data, game progress, contacts etc etc.? And if there is a chance of that is there a way to backup these things? Apps like titanium and nandroid require root access which I don't have.
• When trying out the sp tool method some people reported that they lost their IMEI no. after rooting which is clearly a very serious issue and I don't wanna end up like that so does this method poses the same threat? if it does, is there a way so that I can take a backup of my IMEI no.??
•Do I need to take out my memory card/ battery?
Note: I am a noob in android rooting and stuff so please don't be harsh. I am currently in middle of the process
Thank you any help is much appreciated :fingers-crossed:
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You won't lose any data or IMEI and there is no need to take the battery out. it's not like flashing an entirely new firmware. i assure you it's very very safe.
salaigeethan666 said:
You won't lose any data or IMEI and there is no need to take the battery out. it's not like flashing an entirely new firmware. i assure you it's very very safe.
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Thank you very much bro! Let me root this biatch right now.:good:
I just success bro!! I'm a little nervous though.. there was an app called supersu after the root.. I have a very little knowledge about it.. regardless when I opened it asked me to update binary su should I allow that? Ik it could be very stupid question but still...
vermajai93 said:
I just success bro!! I'm a little nervous though.. there was an app called supersu after the root.. I have a very little knowledge about it.. regardless when I opened it asked me to update binary su should I allow that? Ik it could be very stupid question but still...
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YES DUDE OPEN SUPERsu ... yes allow it to update binary su.. actually supersu is an app which grants all other root apps to access the root files ... it is the app in a crude language the main head to control root access ok !!! or in other words in 99% cases it proves that device has been succesfully rooted !!!!!!!!
hitting thnaks would not take much time...please hit thanks if i helped !!!!!!! posting something on xda is very difficult !!
abhiab002 said:
YES DUDE OPEN SUPERsu ... yes allow it to update binary su.. actually supersu is an app which grants all other root apps to access the root files ... it is the app in a crude language the main head to control root access ok !!! or in other words in 99% cases it proves that device has been succesfully rooted !!!!!!!!
hitting thnaks would not take much time...please hit thanks if i helped !!!!!!! posting something on xda is very difficult !!
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Thanks bud.. actually I was very nervous yesterday
Couldn't believe I succeeded
BTW how do I uninstall all the bloat wares? Saw a video on YouTube it said I just have to move the bloat wares to external SD via esexplorer..
the BEST way to root ua fone
vermajai
this is the easir=esy way to root ur fone..
download farmaroot application from the play store
install it
on opening u will see a dropdown menu to install supersu aftr selecting that just tap "boromir"
reboot ua fone and us rooted
now if u want to unroot ua fone same steps and tap on "unroot" and den tap boromir
reboot ua fone and ua unrooted
the best safest and simplest way to root/unroot ua cHD
macsenjose18 said:
vermajai
this is the easir=esy way to root ur fone..
download farmaroot application from the play store
install it
on opening u will see a dropdown menu to install supersu aftr selecting that just tap "boromir"
reboot ua fone and us rooted
now if u want to unroot ua fone same steps and tap on "unroot" and den tap boromir
reboot ua fone and ua unrooted
the best safest and simplest way to root/unroot ua cHD
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Thanks for the info Mac.. but I have already rooted my fone.. now for the best way to uninstall the bloat wares..
vermajai93 said:
Thanks for the info Mac.. but I have already rooted my fone.. now for the best way to uninstall the bloat wares..
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Hi Vemajai,
Removing Boaltware is a kind of hit and miss.
The way i do is
1) Open ES file explorer
2) Click on Root Explorer
3) Mount Write Permissions
4) go to /system/app
5) Cut the Apps that I dont need and paste them into any folder on external card.
6) Go to CWM recovery, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, and fix permissions.
Choosing the apps to remove/delete is important, you can search internet to which apps are safe to remove, but it will be device specific.
There are few scripts available on the xda that do this job automatically, but we dont have one for our A116 (correct me if i am wrong).
If you remove a wrong apk accidentally, you can end up with FC's(Force Closes) and few functions or apps may not work.
So its better to have a Nandriod Backup (can be taken using Recovery like CWM or TWRP) so that if some thing goes wrong we can go back to working state.
-- I am not responsible if some thing goes wrong with your device, do the above at your own risk.

[Q] To root or not to root

Hi,
This is my first time writing here so excuse any of my mistakes.
Its been one year that I own the galaxy s3 and it seems to me very slow, with too many lags. And becomes even slower any time I join wifi and even worse when I finish surfing at facebook.
I always have 700mb RAM out of 830mb. I tried everything, reduce animation, disable ripple effect, clear cache etc. Nothing !!!
Im afraid rooting, mainly because I don’t want to start all over againg setting up wifi passwords, apps etc.
I would like your advice, either for improvement without root, or for the best way to root, cyanogenmod etc.
Thanx
aalecou said:
Hi,
This is my first time writing here so excuse any of my mistakes.
Its been one year that I own the galaxy s3 and it seems to me very slow, with too many lags. And becomes even slower any time I join wifi and even worse when I finish surfing at facebook.
I always have 700mb RAM out of 830mb. I tried everything, reduce animation, disable ripple effect, clear cache etc. Nothing !!!
Im afraid rooting, mainly because I don’t want to start all over againg setting up wifi passwords, apps etc.
I would like your advice, either for improvement without root, or for the best way to root, cyanogenmod etc.
Thanx
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Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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Thanx for your response.
So, if i just root i will not lose anything, not even my apps and data?
aalecou said:
Thanx for your response.
So, if i just root i will not lose anything, not even my apps and data?
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The reason you root your device is to gain access to the root directory of your device. You won't lose apps or data, only if you flash a custom rom (unless you make a backup).
Grimzee said:
The reason you root your device is to gain access to the root directory or your device. You won't lose apps or data, only if you flash a custom rom (unless you make a backup).
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Thats great.
Thanx again
aalecou said:
Thats great.
Thanx again
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You're welcome. Hope all goes well and enjoy having root. Also welcome to XDA
Sorry,how can i disable root counter.Triangle Away ?
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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i recommend Custom ROM. Once you succeed in flashing rom. U will njoy trying new roms in our device.
Follow Instructions & do carefully. Rooting is justa one time process.
Later on you can flash new roms any times.
HI again.
I managed to root with cf.
Everythink ok. But i dont see any triangle. So i dont need to use "triangle away"?
aalecou said:
HI again.
I managed to root with cf.
Everythink ok. But i dont see any triangle. So i dont need to use "triangle away"?
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You don't need to use Triangle away every now and then. You can use it when you want to take it to service centre!
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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I've rooted with the method you sugested and everything is ok, but my phone did not become much faster. It still needs feww seconds to show contacts, logs etc.
Is this related to ram? Should i do something about it? Any tweaks or apps?
enabling root access
Hi Guys,
I have installed the WhatsApp Tri-Crypt application. Now for the application to work i need to enable root access but i dont know how to do that. Please help
aalecou said:
I've rooted with the method you sugested and everything is ok, but my phone did not become much faster. It still needs feww seconds to show contacts, logs etc.
Is this related to ram? Should i do something about it? Any tweaks or apps?
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Rooting is just granting access to the root directory on your device, this wont speed your phone up at all. Depends, if you want to overclock it with a custom kernel then you can speed it up, otherwise because you have just granted root access you would probably still have all the bloatware on it, removing this can speed up your phone aswell, because this will give you more ram.
Then there always another way, which is to flash a custom rom, they dont usually have any bloat, if any at all, so they can be faster
Grimzee said:
Rooting is just granting access to the root directory on your device, this wont speed your phone up at all. Depends, if you want to overclock it with a custom kernel then you can speed it up, otherwise because you have just granted root access you would probably still have all the bloatware on it, removing this can speed up your phone aswell, because this will give you more ram.
Then there always another way, which is to flash a custom rom, they dont usually have any bloat, if any at all, so they can be faster
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Great. So if i backup everything with titanium, then flash custom rom (i would appreciate any suggestions for a light one) then i will be able to restore everything?
aalecou said:
Great. So if i backup everything with titanium, then flash custom rom (i would appreciate any suggestions for a light one) then i will be able to restore everything?
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Only apps and their data, nothing else. Make sure you understand what you are doing, as you seem to be missing a lot of basic knowledge.
boomboomer said:
Only apps and their data, nothing else. Make sure you understand what you are doing, as you seem to be missing a lot of basic knowledge.
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Thats true...
Thats why im seeking for help.
Thanx.
boomboomer said:
Only apps and their data, nothing else. Make sure you understand what you are doing, as you seem to be missing a lot of basic knowledge.
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aalecou said:
Thats true...
Thats why im seeking for help.
Thanx.
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Not to worry though,if you read everything before you flash a custom rom and follow the developers instructions, you should be fine. But never forget a backup of your apps and data or youll just have to download them all again. Also making nandroid backups is recommended if anything goes wrong at any point, I said that assuming you would have custom recovery
Thanks
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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Thanks dude I am also planning to Root my phone and install good Rom....
pradeepbm said:
Thanks dude I am also planning to Root my phone and install good Rom....
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No worries, glad ive helped
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No worries, glad ive helped
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Thanks..... :good::good::good:

can I PERMANENTLY delete the supersu folder in root directory? (cm13)

I do not know why TWRP (or cyanogenmod, it seems) keeps repopulating my root directory with a supersu folder containing apks and scripts for that app. Is there any way to permanently delete that folder and all its contents? Whenever I reboot to recovery after I delete it, it always comes back.
(Inquiries elsewhere went unanswered. Googled all I could.)
From the looks of it you are in CM rom. SU is part of the rom. Not the recovery.
zelendel said:
From the looks of it you are in CM rom. SU is part of the rom. Not the recovery.
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Great, then that's my new question. Why does CM create this folder and how can I stop it from recreating itself? It's not like my /system/(x)bin/su binaries are being readded.
qu4gmire said:
Great, then that's my new question. Why does CM create this folder and how can I stop it from recreating itself? It's not like my /system/(x)bin/su binaries are being readded.
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You will have to completely remove root but with the odd way cm does root I am not sure it is really possible as it is coded into the OS.
zelendel said:
You will have to completely remove root but with the odd way cm does root I am not sure it is really possible as it is coded into the OS.
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There's gotta be a way somewhere out there but thanks for clearing up the cause, at any rate
qu4gmire said:
There's gotta be a way somewhere out there but thanks for clearing up the cause, at any rate
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Oh there is. Build the rom yourself and leave out super user and root.
Mainly as many custom rom features require root to work. You maybe better off running stock.
If you want to remove root just flash the latest Chainfire's SuperSU, go to the app then select full unroot. Reboot then delete supersu folder.
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Oh there is. Build the rom yourself and leave out super user and root.
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If only I knew how! I'm just hoping there's a simpler alternative.
Mainly as many custom rom features require root to work. You maybe better off running stock.
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I use systemless root and don't want any traces of the old method sitting around to be detected. Plus, I'm GApps-free, so that's not really possible.
24imelqui said:
If you want to remove root just flash the latest Chainfire's SuperSU, go to the app then select full unroot. Reboot then delete supersu folder.
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Doesn't help. That'll remove everything but the folder in question. Going back and deleting the folder after using SuperSU's full unroot option only works until my next reboot, when the folder pops back up again.

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