Can this be done?
At least on 101, is the software tied to the HDD SN as in the past? That's what stopped me from buying an Archos, so far.
Wouldn't be great replacing the HDD with a SSD drive? I bet the battery life would be awesome!
On the 70 maybe a hardware mod, connecting a 1.8" SSD with adapter directly to the USB port.
Any hidden/internal not connected USB ports?
Some might say I'm daydreaming but any of the above would really increase the value of the two Archos models.
A101 does not contain any kind of a harddrive, it just has 8 or 16 GB of flash storage (system is communicating to it like it is a MMC/SD card).
So there is no way of doing the upgrade?
What about the 70H? Can a HDD swap/upgrade be done?
Thanks!
Is the A70H the one with the 250GB HDD? If so, open the device and check what kind of HDD it is (Serial ATA? 1.8" or 2.5"?) and then you can decide whether it's replaceable or not.
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Is the A70H the one with the 250GB HDD? If so, open the device and check what kind of HDD it is (Serial ATA? 1.8" or 2.5"?) and then you can decide whether it's replaceable or not.
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I'm sorry if I didn't explain properly: I'm interested in buying a 70, would love having the big storage, except I don't trust the moving parts inside.
So what I would do is take out the HDD (BTW: I saw a photo somewhere it's a 2.5"SATA Seagate) and install a SSD. This way I don't have to worry about the moving parts, shocks, etc.
With the old models, Archos used to lock down the device by checking the SN of the HDD and if it wouldn't match the original one, it wouldn't boot.
There were people that went to the extent of buying a specific brand/model of HDD that had a hack to change the SN/name/model, etc.
That's what made me wonder if this is still the case or we can swap/upgrade the drives now.
On the 70S we can try with a small 1.8" SSD and a USB adapter by soldering the whole thing inside on the USB port.
If we could find some other unused/not connected USB port would be even better.
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Hells bells I got it to work at last.
A lot of you have been experimenting with usb hubbs and can only get athena to see 2 ports on a 4 port hubb.
WELL I can now see 3 ports.
Running a usb 104 keys keyboard
usb mouse
kingston datatraveller 2.0 GB memory stick (sees it as a "Hard Drive")
I now run it on tiniest vga screen hooked up to an LCD 19inch (or wifes 22 inch wide) with above connected - running dataviz docs to go which gives me desktop word excel powerpoint pdf as well as Handbase (access like program)
FANTASTIC
The trick after losts of experiments is the following
In the HTC 4 in 1 cable usb slot I plugged a digitech micro usb hub (in other words a device which has 1 usb port connector on the LHS and 4 usb ports on the RHS all in one solid plastic block ie no cables
I cannot find this hub again as I have had it for some time but on the net i found this one from china which appears simmiliar and hopefully will do the trick in that it will see 3 out of the 4 ports (sees any 3 ports) but not the fourth one !!!!
I think the ability to see 3 ports instead of 2 is that it must be usb 1 (these are usb 2.0 devices below) and it must be a solid block with no cables - all the others I tried never got past 2 ports.
Maybe the usb 2.0 solid blocks below will also work - maybe the clincher is losing the cable and haveing the solid block
All usb hubs with the cables (even self powered ones) will only see 2 ports !!!
Hell I am trying
Got my setup to work like a bomb.
Will also see my integral 8 in 1 sd card reader and read my memort sticks and sdhc cards (again the card reader is one of those solid blocks with a usb port - no cables)
(Note : You have to remove the memory stick to plug in sd card reader and will only see one card at a time)
See items below
I have not tried these but my one is like these below
Happy computing
So for me I guess I will pass on the shift - I already have one at a hell of a lot bucks less.
Found a Belkin one as well model F5U018
http://www.shopbot.com.au/p-16446-791749.html
http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/details.aspx?view=info&itemid=2492434
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Belkin-USB-4-Port-Micro-Thumb-Hub_W0QQitemZ170175935758QQcmdZViewItem
A targus one
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Targus-USB-Micro-Swivel-4-Port/dp/B0000AKL2D
Wow, looks like you made progress so thanks. I was wondering if you had a external 2.5" HDD caddy (USB, self - battery or mains powered) you could try for us?
I've started three threads on mutliple forums to get to the bottom of why the 4 in 1 cable isn't cuttting it with USB devices and so far the excuse is that it dosn't have the umph to power power hungry USB kit like a spinning Ext HDD Caddy! But your setup might work especially if the Caddy has it's own power source, which mine has in the form of mains or lithium battery pack.
Any way if it's not to much trouble your help would be much appreciated by myself and others following this issue.
Thanks Optical10
optical10 said:
Wow, looks like you made progress so thanks. I was wondering if you had a external 2.5" HDD caddy (USB, self - battery or mains powered) you could try for us?
I've started three threads on mutliple forums to get to the bottom of why the 4 in 1 cable isn't cuttting it with USB devices and so far the excuse is that it dosn't have the umph to power power hungry USB kit like a spinning Ext HDD Caddy! But your setup might work especially if the Caddy has it's own power source, which mine has in the form of mains or lithium battery pack.
Any way if it's not to much trouble your help would be much appreciated by myself and others following this issue.
Thanks Optical10
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Am I right in thinking that the USB Host hardware on the Athena is USB 2.0 but that WM6 is only capable of seeing it as 1.1? Thought I read this somewhere......anyway just a thought but maybe the OS can tell the difference between a solid state disk and a platter disk; thus no matter how much power you throw at it it won't work. Either that or it simply won't read above a certain capacity. Whichever is true I think it's safe to say that the external HDD debate is a dead duck: USB host has never purported to read full-on hard disks, only thumb drives and HIDs: there is clearly a reason for this.
My old toshiba e750 from 4 years ago had usb host capability. It could see all 20gig of my selfpowered X-drive.
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My old toshiba e750 from 4 years ago had usb host capability. It could see all 20gig of my selfpowered X-drive.
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Bizarre. What os did that run? I thought USB host support only came out with WM5
PPC 2003 SE, I was running a 4port hub and could use a usb gps, the 20gig x-drive, usb keyboard, and mouse. Only the x-drive needed external power, the other attachments worked just fine. Strange that current devices cannot even to that.
Hi Guys
I am back again.
I dont have a usb caddy but I have a usb (self powered) HDD cage that takes a 120GB 3.5in hdd.
I will try this on moinday evening when back home and report back
Hi
I am battling to see the HDD
Will have to try a smaller size.
Found a way to get rid of office mobile s??t once and for all.
Go to Docs to go folder and copy the 5 programs to a new directory
wordtogo, exceltogo, powerpointtogo, ziptogo and pdftogo.
Then rename them as follows:
wordtogo.exe to pword.exe
exceltogo.exe tp pxl.exe
powerpointtogo.exe to ppt.exe
ziptogo.exe to zipview.exe
pdftogo.exe to (using pk 3.0 touch version of rom) to ppc_adobereaderle.exe
then copy these 5 programs to c:\windows
the pword + pxl + ppt files will lie alongside their rom conterparts but the ram versins will always boot first.
zipview and ppc_adovereaderle will overwrite their ram counterparts.
Now whenever you see an attachement or anything it will always open docs to go equivalents and the office mobile link files (.lnk) in rom will call the ram versions which are the docs to go programs
Voila and now you have proper word excel powerpoint and pdf ???? as well as zip programs
cheers
leoni1980 said:
Am I right in thinking that the USB Host hardware on the Athena is USB 2.0 but that WM6 is only capable of seeing it as 1.1? Thought I read this somewhere......anyway just a thought but maybe the OS can tell the difference between a solid state disk and a platter disk; thus no matter how much power you throw at it it won't work. Either that or it simply won't read above a certain capacity. Whichever is true I think it's safe to say that the external HDD debate is a dead duck: USB host has never purported to read full-on hard disks, only thumb drives and HIDs: there is clearly a reason for this.
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i think u r right
wm6 seems to see all devices as usb 1.1
No, I don't think WM6 can only see it as USB 1.o Some winmo devices are having USB 2.0.
See this for example:
http://www.sideshowdevices.com/i-mate-ultimate-wm6-phones-with-vista-sideshow-support
I think it is the software driver used, but I'm not competely sure. It cannot be due to hardware because WM5torage allows the PC to see Athena as USB2.0 harddisk. May be I'm not talking sense, but anyway.
eaglesteve said:
No, I don't think WM6 can only see it as USB 1.o Some winmo devices are having USB 2.0.
See this for example:
http://www.sideshowdevices.com/i-mate-ultimate-wm6-phones-with-vista-sideshow-support
I think it is the software driver used, but I'm not competely sure. It cannot be due to hardware because WM5torage allows the PC to see Athena as USB2.0 harddisk. May be I'm not talking sense, but anyway.
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usb client and usb host are different. wm6 certainly supposts usb client, though until recently even this aspect was only usb 1.1 in HTC devices, certainly,
So
Lets see if I get this correct (dumb ole me)
Usb client services on Athena couldbe usb 2.0
usb hpst services could be 1.1
Surely then this could be thew driver used.
If so can this be changed in the PK 3.0 black rom ????
Maybe ask olipro crowd ????
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usb client and usb host are different. wm6 certainly supposts usb client, though until recently even this aspect was only usb 1.1 in HTC devices, certainly,
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You're right.
There's no doubt in my mind that WM6 does support USB 2.0. The technical savvy might be able to port the right driver over to Athena to test.
I have looked around on here and cant find an answer....
My friend just bought a A101. He used a external hard drive once (Seagate Portable Drive, 500GB) After he connected it the first time, it has never worked since....
Does anyone know what would cause this, or how to fix it? He even has already reformatted both and did a factory reset on the A101...
Thanks for any help
Hi,
that happened some of us when we upgraded to FM 2.071.
I called Archos and advised me to send it for repair.
Regards.
Javier-
Did they say they would charge you for it? Have you sent it in yet or received it back? Just ordered a Seagate 500gb HD and now I'm a little worried.
Javierinnn said:
Hi,
that happened some of us when we upgraded to FM 2.071.
I called Archos and advised me to send it for repair.
Regards.
Javier-
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hi all
I've got the same problem here after i had upgrade to 2.018
is that anyone can solve the problem now?
I've tried format, reset, and downgrade, nothing help
thx
Never Work
I don think it working if your connect your External HDD with seperate power it ok b ut if like 2.5 Notebook HDD not working anyway
lursak said:
I don think it working if your connect your External HDD with seperate power it ok b ut if like 2.5 Notebook HDD not working anyway
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I had the same issue, sent it in for repair, came back faster then ever, but now looking at same problem
This sounds more like an underpowered usb port, rather than a failed usb port.
The usb port only supplies 200ma power, most hdd require 500ma, especially if you are powering said hdd off the port.
I suggest installing SDE, then installing UrukDroid 1.0, then look in the UrukDriod dev forum for Sibere's V10 kernel - it raises the ma from 200 to 500, but even then, it's not a 'complete' fix - the port seems to share power with the display.
Good luck!
Question:
Has the Seagate 500GB external portable HDD worked properly before it was connected to the A101IT.... like were there any problems whatsoever with it being connected to a laptop/desktop at all??
If the portable HDD HAS worked then you have a guaranteed FUBAR USB port, period! I actually had the same problem and I thought the problem lied with my Western Digital 500GB external portable USB-powered HDD because it was working with my A101IT for a long time then one day my A101IT couldn't find my WD HDD when it was connected. I then disconnected it from my A101IT and found that when I reconnected my WD HDD back to my laptop that there really was no problem with my WD HDD at all, it was the USB port on the A101IT! Also you can plug a thumb drive/usb stick with like 1 GB+ that has stuff like documents, movies, music, etcetera on it and if the information on the thumb drive still doesn't come up after you have connected it to your A101IT the problem is a definite A101IT USB Port problem.
P.S. - By the way, reformatting the entire A101IT AND upgrading/downgrading to a newer/older firmware will also not work.
usb problem
Hi all i faund solution for hd and usb stick not working on archos101.
I got problem with my hd 360gb archos dont read this disc but like i unplug hd from archos show on scren ..now you can unplug divace safly.
I dig in google and i faund if you format your hd "fat" or usb stick you need call partition on hd primary not logical "somthing like that" and archos will reconais hd whitout problems.
This work for me and i dont heve any problem any more whit usb conection to hd i test orso micro sd samsung 8gb class6 in usb conector with same problem what my hd and this method solved my problem.
I hope this will hellp some one.
Sorry for poor english.
Best program to do this operation is partition menager or somthing like that
Hi,
I am thinking about buying the flyer as I do a lot of nights and I thought it would be an amazing tablet for playing dvd's on.
My question is: I have a 500gb external HDD formatted with NTFS. If I bought a micro usb to micro usb cable, would I be able to plug it into the flyer and play my dvd's? I have ripped them to AVI files and are arround 1gb each?
Also would I be able to run it of power at the same time?
Doubtful. I haven't tried myself but most mobile devices aren't set up to allow their usb port to function with external storage... I could however be wrong. Take ur hdd into a store and give it a shot. Worth a try...
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If I bought a micro usb to micro usb cable, would I be able to plug it into the flyer and play my dvd's?
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1. The Flyer has no standard micro usb jack! HTC use the same port as HDI output but you can connect the provided USB (not micro) cable.
2. As already said, you need the drivers on the Flyer to do so and I didn't check it. Maybe someone else?
3. You can connect the Flyer in other ways to external storage such as media servers (over WiFi).
Sounds a bit much for what I want to do! I am also considering the Dell Inspiron mini 10.1 which has a flip arround 10" touch screen!
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Have a look at this thread.
http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=46483
You dont even have to mod the device, just put in a 500GB drive and install ESfile Explorer and it streams all your media files (encoded for the Flyer of course).
OH, BTW, works fine with my A70 AND my Flyer...
Interesting, but I'd admit that I was checking out the videos on the Dell 10" touch screen, it looked so awsome that I went and ordered one. Average price seemed to be £480, but then I found an next day delivery from amazon for £407! So gone for that instead. In my opinion best of both worlds.
For my the flyer looked amazing but didn't have all the functionality I needed!
Cheers for your help guys!
Hi,
I'm looking to get either the Tab or Note 10.1, but need to know whether its possible to transfer images from the micro SD card to an external USb powered HDD. I know I can get hold of a micro usb male/ mini usb male adapter to link the Tab/Note to the HDD, but don't know if the Tab/Note will power the drive, or if it's possible to transfer pics in this way.
I'm planning a roadtrip in the USA later this year and would not have regular access to wifi to upload images to 'dropbox' etc so would rather back them up to a HDD.
I know there are several similar postings, but no suitable/applicable answers.
Suggestions/answers ?
Cheers
Rivendell63 said:
Hi,
I'm looking to get either the Tab or Note 10.1, but need to know whether its possible to transfer images from the micro SD card to an external USb powered HDD. I know I can get hold of a micro usb male/ mini usb male adapter to link the Tab/Note to the HDD, but don't know if the Tab/Note will power the drive, or if it's possible to transfer pics in this way.
I'm planning a roadtrip in the USA later this year and would not have regular access to wifi to upload images to 'dropbox' etc so would rather back them up to a HDD.
I know there are several similar postings, but no suitable/applicable answers.
Suggestions/answers ?
Cheers
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The Tab 10.1 doesn't have a micro SD card slot - the Tab 2 does. On the Tab 10.1 there's a chunk of the internal memory mounted as /sdcard that you can store your photos on.
As far as moving files to an external drive goes, you can do that with most file managers so that's no problem.
One issue you may have is that the external drive will need to be formatted as FAT 32, not NTFS. That means that you can't copy files larger than 4GB to the external drive. That's probably not going to be a problem for you if you're moving images (not movies).
To connect the drive, you'll need an OTG cable, which are fairly inexpensive. However, there's no guarantee that the tablet will be able to power the drive. External thumb drives work fine for me. I haven't tried any portable hard drives, but as long as the current demand is fairly low it may work. Some people have had success with portable drives, so it's worth giving it a try, especially if you're talking about a notebook size drive as those tend to be less power hungry.
I have successfully mounted an external HDD via a externally powered USB-Hub. The FAT32 partition can be mounted without additional software, the NTFS partition can be mounted with the free app "NTFS mount". USB-Sticks will be powered by the tablet without problem. The problem is, that the combined card reader / USB adaptor can only be used with one function at a time. So I had to copy the SD-card to the internal storage of the tab and then move it from there to the external HDD.
You might want to think about buying an Intenso Memory 2 Move HDD. It's an external 2.5" HDD with a battery (6 hours) and a wifi hotspot. You can access the drive via wifi, ethernet RJ45 and USB 3.0. Works like a charm with Android.
Regards
Achim
Sorry, it was the Tab 2 (10.1 screen, stylus thing etc) I was meaning but couldn't find a heading for it. Is it likely to power an external 2.5 drive ?
Most certainly it will not power HDD. The easiest solution is an external miniature USB hub with power supply.
Regards
Achim
I would like to mention that HDD must be partitioned as GPT to work otherwise it shows as corrupt.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
I know it's not all that practical but I have a v30 that's destroyed but turns on and works every way the screen just flashes colors, is there any way I can format the whole phones os into a "ntfs" hdd to plug into a windows computer and not have to select "device" under my PC. I want the phone to show as a regular flashdrive even if I can't use the actual Android os, but I need it to be readable by windows as a full flashdrive not a "device" then click it to show storage if that makes any sense
Someone will have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they did away with remounting storage as a bulk storage device...uh...several versions back. Probably with Lollipop, it introduced a ridiculous number of changes, many of them annoying like this.
Since then, Android primarily uses Media Transfer Protocol (switchable to Picture Transfer Protocol), a comparatively slow, crappy, feature-limited way to manage files. It's complete garbage. It's also safer than straight-up exposing the filesystem and doesn't interrupt the phone's ability to keep using the storage (for better or worse...), which is probably why they did it.
To get around it, you'd probably need to put a service of some sort on the phone so it can present the phone as a network drive, which you could then map over wifi --- there's probably app/windows program combos to do this. Or compile your own ROM with the bulk storage option enabled.
There might also be a way in Windows to map a drive straight to the MTP storage, or symlink a folder to it to make it more seamless, but I'm not sure. You'd still be dealing with MTP limitations then, and I'm not sure how an application that expects a real filesystem would react to that.
Not much worth it man. Storage is dirt cheap.
The phone won't last for long because the battery will eventually ends up dead and the phone/storage will stop being usable.
Blueice87 said:
Not much worth it man. Storage is dirt cheap.
The phone won't last for long because the battery will eventually ends up dead and the phone/storage will stop being usable.
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True.
64GB USB 3.0 flash drive is $9.99.
128GB USB 3.0 $17.99.
That's same memory of V30 and V30+.
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Turbo-12...s=128gb+hard+drive&qid=1573439009&s=pc&sr=1-8
1TB external hard drive - $43.86
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Port...ard+drive&qid=1573439194&s=electronics&sr=1-2
ChazzMatt said:
True.
64GB USB 3.0 flash drive is $9.99.
128GB USB 3.0 $17.99.
That's same memory of V30 and V30+.
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Turbo-12...s=128gb+hard+drive&qid=1573439009&s=pc&sr=1-8
1TB external hard drive - $43.86
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Port...ard+drive&qid=1573439194&s=electronics&sr=1-2
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Better yet, don't buy USB sticks, they're garbage. Cheap, yes, but slow and fragile: both physically and electrically.
External HDDs are pretty cost-efficient storage, but they're also mechanically fragile.
If you're gonna do it, do it right! Something sturdy, compact and upgradable:
ElecGear SATA M.2 SSD to USB 3.1 Gen2 Enclosure (actually an Ineo T2588FA, there's also a vented version available but meh on holes for things to get into)
and uhhh...
Kingston A400 240G Internal SSD M.2 2280 SA400M8/240G (just as an example, probably better deals on bigger drives out there)
Cabled M.2 enclosures are cheaper and plentiful, of course, but I personally like the giant-thumbdrive formfactor :silly:
Most important thing is to make sure it supports USB3(.1) Gen 2 and UASP for maximum balls-to-the-wall speed.
Even without UASP support (in Win7 or what-have-you), something like this will blow a normal consumer flash drive (and most "professional"/"enthusiast" drives) or external HDD out of the water in any performance metric, and aside from the connector is basically immune to most things that would physically damage a HDD or plastic-cased flash drive.