I know it's not all that practical but I have a v30 that's destroyed but turns on and works every way the screen just flashes colors, is there any way I can format the whole phones os into a "ntfs" hdd to plug into a windows computer and not have to select "device" under my PC. I want the phone to show as a regular flashdrive even if I can't use the actual Android os, but I need it to be readable by windows as a full flashdrive not a "device" then click it to show storage if that makes any sense
Someone will have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they did away with remounting storage as a bulk storage device...uh...several versions back. Probably with Lollipop, it introduced a ridiculous number of changes, many of them annoying like this.
Since then, Android primarily uses Media Transfer Protocol (switchable to Picture Transfer Protocol), a comparatively slow, crappy, feature-limited way to manage files. It's complete garbage. It's also safer than straight-up exposing the filesystem and doesn't interrupt the phone's ability to keep using the storage (for better or worse...), which is probably why they did it.
To get around it, you'd probably need to put a service of some sort on the phone so it can present the phone as a network drive, which you could then map over wifi --- there's probably app/windows program combos to do this. Or compile your own ROM with the bulk storage option enabled.
There might also be a way in Windows to map a drive straight to the MTP storage, or symlink a folder to it to make it more seamless, but I'm not sure. You'd still be dealing with MTP limitations then, and I'm not sure how an application that expects a real filesystem would react to that.
Not much worth it man. Storage is dirt cheap.
The phone won't last for long because the battery will eventually ends up dead and the phone/storage will stop being usable.
Blueice87 said:
Not much worth it man. Storage is dirt cheap.
The phone won't last for long because the battery will eventually ends up dead and the phone/storage will stop being usable.
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True.
64GB USB 3.0 flash drive is $9.99.
128GB USB 3.0 $17.99.
That's same memory of V30 and V30+.
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Turbo-12...s=128gb+hard+drive&qid=1573439009&s=pc&sr=1-8
1TB external hard drive - $43.86
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Port...ard+drive&qid=1573439194&s=electronics&sr=1-2
ChazzMatt said:
True.
64GB USB 3.0 flash drive is $9.99.
128GB USB 3.0 $17.99.
That's same memory of V30 and V30+.
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Turbo-12...s=128gb+hard+drive&qid=1573439009&s=pc&sr=1-8
1TB external hard drive - $43.86
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Port...ard+drive&qid=1573439194&s=electronics&sr=1-2
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Better yet, don't buy USB sticks, they're garbage. Cheap, yes, but slow and fragile: both physically and electrically.
External HDDs are pretty cost-efficient storage, but they're also mechanically fragile.
If you're gonna do it, do it right! Something sturdy, compact and upgradable:
ElecGear SATA M.2 SSD to USB 3.1 Gen2 Enclosure (actually an Ineo T2588FA, there's also a vented version available but meh on holes for things to get into)
and uhhh...
Kingston A400 240G Internal SSD M.2 2280 SA400M8/240G (just as an example, probably better deals on bigger drives out there)
Cabled M.2 enclosures are cheaper and plentiful, of course, but I personally like the giant-thumbdrive formfactor :silly:
Most important thing is to make sure it supports USB3(.1) Gen 2 and UASP for maximum balls-to-the-wall speed.
Even without UASP support (in Win7 or what-have-you), something like this will blow a normal consumer flash drive (and most "professional"/"enthusiast" drives) or external HDD out of the water in any performance metric, and aside from the connector is basically immune to most things that would physically damage a HDD or plastic-cased flash drive.
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Hi everyone, I've really been looking at the Cingular 3125 as my next phone but have some concerns over the USB speeds. As stated on the fact sheet, the unit is only USB 1.1. I'll be doing numerous xfers of music and video and am wondering how others cope with the potential slow speed of USB 1.1. Is it really that bad? How often do you take apart everything to mount the miniSD in a reader? Why would they put 1.1 in such a new device when USB 2.0 has been around for ages?
Thanks.
well. I think that usb w needs more power and usb 1 is probably cheaper.
You can solve the speed problem partially by using the tool called wmstorage it can be found at www.modaco.com. free of charge. this tool makes your micro sd card while inside the phone a removable hdd. like a memory stick. that is faster file transfer then via AS. also the new version of AS 4.5 BETA supposed to have a faster file transfer capabilities.
For the rest I love the phone. it is a real beauty.
My first post, but I've been reading in this forum for two months, a couple hours each day. It's habit forming.
Gtab, tnt lite v.4.1.0
I have a USB adapter made by Sigg that has a 16gig microSD inserted. Formatted (several times) FAT32. When inserted in the gtab USB host slot the disk is not mounted without a lot of plugging and unplugging and praying to the gods. There have been a few messages telling me that the 'card is damaged' when it is not. The microSD card works fine when inserted in the gtab's microSD slot. But it can take hours of fiddling to get the card to mount in the USB slot.
After lots of searching it seems that everyone else takes USB flash drives on the gtab for granted. They all seem to work. Mine doesn't, but works fine in my XPpro 32bit laptop.
If anyone can give me some ideas for troubleshooting this I'd appreciate it.
By the way, this forum is something of a phenomenon. After looking at the gtab threads I went out and bought mine at Sears. What better way to get acquainted with Android? My thanks go out to everyone here who has contributed. Someday I might be able to contribute as well.
I think about ways to better manage the gtablet xda forum, a lot. It has become a monster - but it's not a bad monster, more like a cute and cuddly Sesame Street monster.
How to organize all this fabulous information so that it can be easily searched and utilized? Good question.
All I can say is - keep up the good work. This forum is a fantastic resource.
Thanks all
Two thoughts:
First: I'd change the title. This isn't a thumbdrive issue, really, so much as a USB SD Reader problem.
Second: I've run into similar issues myself. But I've noticed that I have a couple odd ball readers tht don't work on Mac but does work on Windows. This may be a driver issue. My suggestion would be to try another SD card reader and see if that makes a difference.
I also have a USB adapter with a micro SD inside of it. I find that it does not mount on bootup, but it mounts fine if I remove it and re-insert it.
I was wondering if there is an app for sending a software command to mount the USB. I have looked, but have not found.
smalis, my question exactly!
Taking aaltieri's reply into consideration I experimented with a plain-jane thumbdrive, an adapter with a standard SD, and my adapter with the microSd. Others have demonstrated that adapters with more than one slot will not work. Both my adapters have one slot only.
So here's the intriguing results: The plain-jane thumbdrive is just as unreadable as both adapters UNLESS you boot the machine with the adapter/thumbdrive in the slot, then remove it and put it back in. Then they all read after a short detection period. BUT once the drives are removed after detection they cannot be read again until the machine is shut down and rebooted with the drive in, then remove it and put it back in for detection.
What we need is a method for mounting and unmounting USB drives. I've searched and cannot find a way to unmount the drive under tnt lite. It does not show up in settings/storage like the sd cards do.
By the way, the little Sigg adapter is very tiny, sticking out only 1/4" from the side of the gtab. I got it at Fry's Electronics for $6. I leave it in the slot full-time and it helps keep the power button from being activated when the gtab's inside it's sleeve. I use a Belkin 'non-slip' netbook sleeve (also at Fry's) and the gtab fits only slightly loose. I use a couple of ultrathin mouse pads/screen protectors, one on each side, to increase padding. The Belkin sleeve is difficult to drop due to the grippy sides. The ultrathin mouse pads are marketed for netbook use, to put under the lcd when closing the lid to protect the screen (also Fry's Electronics - what can I say, I'm hooked on the place).
The idea I had was to have 16gig in the SD slot and 16gig in the USB slot. The 32gig microSDHC's are cost prohibitive for me right now. And I still have 11gig remaining on the internal memory. I'd better get to work filling it . . .
Yeah, I have one of those tiny USB micro-SD adapters also (elago Mobile Nano II USB 2.0 microSDHC Flash Memory Card Reader from Amazon), and am very happy with its small footprint.
I had same idea as you - I have a Wintec 16 GB Class 10 MicroSD (~$30 on Newegg) in the SD slot and another one in the USB slot.
However, I have no problem reading the USB slot after unplugging and plugging it in once, or multiple times.
The only time I cannot read it is when I boot with it in. Then, I have to unplug it and plug it in once.
Yours seems more flaky.
Just wanted to note that I had similar issues reading the contents of a FAT32 formatted thumbdrive when using the default iFileManager on Vegan. I downloaded the File Manager app by Adao Team on the market and I can read the thumbdrive contents just fine when using that app.
A follow up for anyone interested.
I migrated to vegantab 5.1 to get mouse and keyboard functionality. I also loaded the small update to 5.1 that has sniffer included.
I don't think sniffer is much to write home about, but it does mount all the usb 2.0 drives and even all the multi-adapters that I've thrown at it. Some posts have pointed out that the multi-adapters don't work. But they do, at least in my experience. I used a Sony adapter that has sd, micro-sd, sony's memory stick, compact flash, and some other port. My 16gig compact flash cards from my camera are read without a problem AFTER opening sniffer. The iFile manager that comes with vegantab does not see the usb 2.0 or the adapter until sniffer is opened. Then the system sees the drives with no problem.
It works every time.
I decided to use an HP wireless mini keyboard. It's a perfect match for the gtab. I thought about dropping $80 for the new Verbatim folding bluetooth keyboard but the HP allows for much better touch typing and I need to do that. Best Buy has a cd/dcd carrying case made by Init that is essentially a hard case that fits the HP keyboard perfectly one the cd sleeves are removed. There's room under the keyboard for headphones, flash memory, and other odds and ends. With vegatab and the mouse fix, the keyboard is easily detected and the mouse pointer works great.
Anyway, it looks as if the mounting issue is one that can easily be taken care of with an app. Another more recent poster on this issue has noted that changing file managers allowed him to mount usb drives that iFileManager would not see. But sniffer works and it's there for seperate download if anyone wants it. I think it looks like crap and doesn't do much. I'll use it in the meantime, though.
r2d2tek said:
A follow up for anyone interested.
I migrated to vegantab 5.1 to get mouse and keyboard functionality. I also loaded the small update to 5.1 that has sniffer included.
I don't think sniffer is much to write home about, but it does mount all the usb 2.0 drives and even all the multi-adapters that I've thrown at it. Some posts have pointed out that the multi-adapters don't work. But they do, at least in my experience. I used a Sony adapter that has sd, micro-sd, sony's memory stick, compact flash, and some other port. My 16gig compact flash cards from my camera are read without a problem AFTER opening sniffer. The iFile manager that comes with vegantab does not see the usb 2.0 or the adapter until sniffer is opened. Then the system sees the drives with no problem.
It works every time.
I decided to use an HP wireless mini keyboard. It's a perfect match for the gtab. I thought about dropping $80 for the new Verbatim folding bluetooth keyboard but the HP allows for much better touch typing and I need to do that. Best Buy has a cd/dcd carrying case made by Init that is essentially a hard case that fits the HP keyboard perfectly one the cd sleeves are removed. There's room under the keyboard for headphones, flash memory, and other odds and ends. With vegatab and the mouse fix, the keyboard is easily detected and the mouse pointer works great.
Anyway, it looks as if the mounting issue is one that can easily be taken care of with an app. Another more recent poster on this issue has noted that changing file managers allowed him to mount usb drives that iFileManager would not see. But sniffer works and it's there for seperate download if anyone wants it. I think it looks like crap and doesn't do much. I'll use it in the meantime, though.
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I didn't even think of Sniffer. I have a cheapo USB reader that was intermittently working (1 out of 60?). After your suggesting, if I open sniffer then plug it in, it sees it every time.
Folks,
I don't know that there is an answer I have seen to all your questions/observations.
I will say:
1. microSD post and USB on the tablet are not plug and play like Windows.
2. When I change my USB key or microSD, I always shut down and likewise I
always shut down before removing them.
3. Yes, I know that's a pain if you change a lot, but for me it makes sure
Android's flicted OS searches for, finds them, and in turn properly shuts them
down before I remove them.
For me, in and out as need just doesn't work.
Rev
EDIT: P. S. -- You all seemed like sharp guys. Should I have asked if you
are looking for the files under /USBdisk?
In my experience, thumb drive mounting is hit and miss. Maybe it's just the drives that I'm using, but it's unreliable. Also, with Gingerbread and Pershoot's kernels, he references having to revert something in order to get USB mount to work (thinking about it, that might refer to mounting the tab to a computer). I would suggest getting used to unmounting your external micro card in Android and growing out a fingernail or two so you can pop that sucker out. I think this is a low priority to the devs, and maybe it should be.
Can this be done?
At least on 101, is the software tied to the HDD SN as in the past? That's what stopped me from buying an Archos, so far.
Wouldn't be great replacing the HDD with a SSD drive? I bet the battery life would be awesome!
On the 70 maybe a hardware mod, connecting a 1.8" SSD with adapter directly to the USB port.
Any hidden/internal not connected USB ports?
Some might say I'm daydreaming but any of the above would really increase the value of the two Archos models.
A101 does not contain any kind of a harddrive, it just has 8 or 16 GB of flash storage (system is communicating to it like it is a MMC/SD card).
So there is no way of doing the upgrade?
What about the 70H? Can a HDD swap/upgrade be done?
Thanks!
Is the A70H the one with the 250GB HDD? If so, open the device and check what kind of HDD it is (Serial ATA? 1.8" or 2.5"?) and then you can decide whether it's replaceable or not.
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Is the A70H the one with the 250GB HDD? If so, open the device and check what kind of HDD it is (Serial ATA? 1.8" or 2.5"?) and then you can decide whether it's replaceable or not.
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I'm sorry if I didn't explain properly: I'm interested in buying a 70, would love having the big storage, except I don't trust the moving parts inside.
So what I would do is take out the HDD (BTW: I saw a photo somewhere it's a 2.5"SATA Seagate) and install a SSD. This way I don't have to worry about the moving parts, shocks, etc.
With the old models, Archos used to lock down the device by checking the SN of the HDD and if it wouldn't match the original one, it wouldn't boot.
There were people that went to the extent of buying a specific brand/model of HDD that had a hack to change the SN/name/model, etc.
That's what made me wonder if this is still the case or we can swap/upgrade the drives now.
On the 70S we can try with a small 1.8" SSD and a USB adapter by soldering the whole thing inside on the USB port.
If we could find some other unused/not connected USB port would be even better.
mmmm.
See, I decided to buy 1 or 2TB of external Hard Drive for my Z2...
So the question is, does my device get affected badly if the drive is 90% full?
And is it risky to access an External Hard Drive with phone via OTG...?
RootLord said:
mmmm.
See, I decided to buy 1 or 2TB of external Hard Drive for my Z2...
So the question is, does my device get affected badly if the drive is 90% full?
And is it risky to access an External Hard Drive with phone via OTG...?
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It is not recommended to use such high capacity drives with OTG for long time or not at all because the micro Usb cannot supply enough power to the such large hard drives
Yeah my Z2 can't use my Samsung USB 3.0 1TB USB hard drive, it works on my externally powered drive, but I think there may be an upper limit on external storage size that a phone can handle to take into consideration as well.
As mentioned above, I've also had problems with a 2tb drive but with a flash drive works perfect and instant
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I mainly got this for my Google Pixel XL which has no SD card slot, but it's 128GB internally. Why do i need an SD card with 128GB of storage? Because every time i flash an Official Google img Build, it wipes the phone, All TWRP backups are gone, Titanium Backups are gone. Can't go wrong for the price...
So Amazon just dropped me off a SanDisk Ultra USB Type-C Flash Drive for my Pixel XL. I paid $12.99 for the 32GB version, and i only got a 32GB because my Pixel XL is 128GB and its going to be used mainly for TWRP back-ups...
Crediits : Amazon, SanDisk Website
HIGH-SPEED USB 3.1 PERFORMANCE IN A USB TYPE-C™ DRIVE
Designed for smartphones, tablets and computers that feature the new USB Type-C™ port2, the SanDisk Ultra® USB Type-C™ flash drive is easy to plug in because it’s always right-side up. High-speed USB 3.1 performance of up to 150MB/s1 allows you to quickly transfer your photos, videos, and other files. Plus, the SanDisk Memory Zone application (available on Google Play™)3 lets you easily manage and back up content on your Android™ devices.
THE FLASH DRIVE FOR USB TYPE-C™ DEVICES
The super-thin SanDisk Ultra® USB Type-C™ flash drive is designed specifically for next-generation devices with the new USB Type-C port. The reversible connector has a uniform design, so that it’s always right-side up, making it easy and fast to plug in.
HIGH-SPEED USB 3.1
High-speed USB 3.1 performance of up to 150MB/s1 (32GB-128GB) means you spend less time waiting to transfer your photos, videos, songs, and other files between devices.
COMPATIBLE WITH SMARTPHONES, TABLETS AND LAPTOPS WITH USB TYPE-C PORTS
Free up space on your smartphone or tablet2, or transfer files between multiple USB Type-C devices.
SANDISK MEMORY ZONE APP FOR EASY FILE MANAGEMENT
Available from the Google Play™ store, the SanDisk Memory Zone app3 lets you view, access, and back up all the files from your phone's memory in one location. It can also automatically move files from your device to your drive to free up space.
Available in 16GB, 32GB 64GB and 128GB
sounds like you are struggling with encryption on that stock ROM. flashing the appropriate no_verity.zip should take care of that so you don't need USB stick
WaxysDargle said:
sounds like you are struggling with encryption on that stock ROM. flashing the appropriate no_verity.zip should take care of that so you don't need USB stick
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I originally purchased it for my Google Pixel XL which doesnt use a Micro SD Card. I was just mentioning the item, because it works with the Note8 as well...
AndroidDevices said:
I originally purchased it for my Google Pixel XL which doesnt use a Micro SD Card. I was just mentioning the item, because it works with the Note8 as well...
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I have one. I bought it when there was a 50% sale a long while back. It does get toasty for prolong use.
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Tidbits said:
I have one. I bought it when there was a 50% sale a long while back. It does get toasty for prolong use.
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Yes it does get quite warm, no pretty hot, but you can touch it...
That Sandisk USB type-c flash drive is a piece junk, extremely slow to transfer files /pics/videos from the phone and become warm->hot. I have a 128gb version that just sit on my desk while I type this reply.