Would this be considered Warez...? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a purchased livewallpaper from the market (hence, its paid app). i ripped the jpegs that make up the livewallpaper and am using them to create a bootanimation for my theme here on XDA. the only way i will be altering the images is by placing my theme logo in them.
if i have a email granting permission by the developer of the live wallpaper to use these images for a free theme on a public forum.....is this considered warez if i do in fact use it for my theme?
please, NO GUESSES. only answer if you know for sure. thanks.

If you have permission from the developer, you're perfectly fine.

thegreatcity said:
If you have permission from the developer, you're perfectly fine.
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When in doubt, seek permission. Do you have the email you spoke of?
I believe Warez is defined as full software packages redistributed in whole without fees or royalties to the original creator. Not sure using a piece of the whole would constitute Warez, although with a paid app I would definitely seek perms and/or keep that email on file.

Br1cK'd said:
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When in doubt, seek permission. Do you have the email you spoke of?
I believe Warez is defined as full software packages redistributed in whole without fees or royalties to the original creator. Not sure using a piece of the whole would constitute Warez, although with a paid app I would definitely seek perms and/or keep that email on file.
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no email yet.....its just something im working on, and i obviously wont add the content until i have that email readily available
i obviously posted this ASSUMING the dev will be ok with it

TopShelf10 said:
no email yet.....its just something im working on, and i obviously wont add the content until i have that email readily available
i obviously posted this ASSUMING the dev will be ok with it
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Most devs are ok with using their work, as long as credit is given where its due. Cross my fingers for ya.

I wrote music for many years (for TV mostly) all intellectual/artistic rights are about the same and follow the same rules.
All pictures/ art/intellectual work if published correctly are copyrighted so get permission, In the law you can give credit (even if no formal permission is given) if use is for a public nature and no one is profiting from it, BUT, this exception a tricky one and many people often step over this line and then end up begging for forgiveness. Essentially, the threshold is : did the original artist/etc being identified as the creator or is the modifier gaining notoriety as a result from someone elses' work.
Simply put, Get permission much easier, or take the original work and modify enough of it to make it your own (somewhere in the 30%-40% range)

he ended up emailing me back and saying theres no problem as long as he is credited and i cite where to find the app on the market
i just wanetd ot make sure XDA wouldnt consider this bad

TopShelf10 said:
he ended up emailing me back and saying theres no problem as long as he is credited and i cite where to find the app on the market
i just wanetd ot make sure XDA wouldnt consider this bad
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As per that town hall meeting a couple months back, with permission you're good to go.
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MD5 Checksums...

Developers Beware!
Following this reported hack of Android OS, it is now even more important to include an MD5 Checksum with EACH release or upgrade and to ensure the servers delivering your ROMs are secure.
The MD5 checksum only ensures that the update.zip file is not corrupted and will install successfully. I don't think you know exactly what you're talking about... also, this post isn't about development nor is it Hero-specific.
developing said:
The MD5 checksum only ensures that the update.zip file is not corrupted and will install successfully.
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I think he means that server admin may change file for malicious purposes.
MD5 sums are usually included to check that file is not corrupted but of course it's a way to avoid this too.
Well if these crackers want to have access they will probably create a kick ass rom that everyone will use anyhow. So whats the point
MD5's won't stop what the linked article is talking about....
btdag said:
MD5's won't stop what the linked article is talking about....
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I think he is refering to 3rd party hosts, who *may* inject the hack into your ROM, which people then download. The developer is probably legit, the hosting company may not. Thus, when the developer provides an MD5, you can verify you are getting a clean unaltered ROM.
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I think he is refering to 3rd party hosts, who *may* inject the hack into your ROM, which people then download. The developer is probably legit, the hosting company may not. Thus, when the developer provides an MD5, you can verify you are getting a clean unaltered ROM.
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Agreed, his post is aimed at devs not users.
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Altered Perception
It may come as a revelation to you boyz but the 'he' you've been referring to in the above posts is actually a 'she'.
Women can buy Androids too you know! And we're even allowed out on our own in some parts of the World.
SpeeDemon said:
I think he is refering to 3rd party hosts, who *may* inject the hack into your ROM, which people then download. The developer is probably legit, the hosting company may not. Thus, when the developer provides an MD5, you can verify you are getting a clean unaltered ROM.
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You've got it in one! Its the only basis we punters can work on. We have to assume the developer is a good guy ... until proven otherwise.
croques said:
It may come as a revelation to you boyz but the 'he' you've been referring to in the above posts is actually a 'she'.
Women can buy Androids too you know! And we're even allowed out on our own in some parts of the World.
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You've got it in one! Its the only basis we punters can work on. We have to assume the developer is a good guy ... until proven otherwise.
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Assuming that we are 'boyz' - and what if the developer is not guy!?!
You are not any better than us
croques said:
It may come as a revelation to you boyz but the 'he' you've been referring to in the above posts is actually a 'she'.
Women can buy Androids too you know! And we're even allowed out on our own in some parts of the World.
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I shall refer you to a lesson in comparative linguistics: http://www.alphadictionary.com/articles/they-singular.html
The English Difference
English differs from most Indo-European languages in that it has lost grammatical gender on its nouns but but has retained the pronouns he, she, it, and they. Today the personal pronouns are used semantically, not grammatically, so that she refers mostly to females (and ships) while he refers mostly to males
However, in situations where gender doesn't matter or is unknown, we have to choose between he and she and he is the default pronoun for referring to people when gender is unknown in all Indo-European languages: "Not everyone can attend any school he can afford". The use of he as a default pronoun has nothing to do with politics or the politico-economic status of women any more than it governs the status of men. Rather, it was introduced in perhaps the most popular English grammar of all times, Anne Fisher's A New Grammar (1745). What was used in English as the default asexual, nongendered pronoun? They.
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Here is a rather interesting youtube video on exactly this subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsKCls7wjjY (This is a joke, btw!)
I assure you, I meant no harm or disrespect when I said "he".
SpeeDemon said:
I assure you, I meant no harm or disrespect when I said "he".
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No harm, nor disrespect was taken; I was merely gently chiding the folks here and attempting to change the perception that every visitor here is male. But I am quite used to being held as an honorary man in the fora I visit.

Down With AppPool/androidplayground.net

Guys, theres a movement in the community to get rid of this site which sells access to pirated paid apps. Now, this isnt to promote the site, this is to get rid of it. Please go here and sign the petition. All the information is there. Support app developers who work hard to make our phones better by helping to get rid of these pirates.
http://bit.ly/bkKwaZ
Support your community!
Also, if you follow this link: http://twitter.com/Mini_Lee/status/20682622042 it will take you to the tweet i put out with the petition link directly in it. So if you're one of those people with thousands of followers on twitter, send it out!
Done, and tweeting it.
Signed - thank you to whoever started this petition!
Been following this on Twitter today. Retweeted protests, and just signed this. I'll be honest, I pirate a lot of stuff, but I wouldn't pirate from a hard working Android dev. If pirating Android apps grew, devs might be less inclined to develop good apps for Android.
OP updated with link to RT'able tweet link.
Kusotare, what do you intend to do with the results of the petition?
I checked, their domain is registered through GoDaddy and hidden by DomainsByProxy. I sent an e-mail to DomainsByProxy to see whether they actually respond to information about illegal activity. It has been my experience that such complaints to GoDaddy will go unanswered but e-mail is cheap so I hit them up too.
But in all honesty, this will be a minor hiccup, if it gets them taken down at all. The overall IP block is owned by Worldstream out of the Netherlands (according to the RIPE branch of IANA), although some tools report the actual location as Portugal. If you run a reverse IP lookup (try a good one like YouGetSignal), the web server at the same IP is also host to a bunch of Iranian spam and piracy blogs under the vatanblog.com domain, so my guess is whomever owns the server (which isn't going to be the same as those running the network where the IP block is managed) isn't going to be too worried about the results of a petition.
But I suppose it can't hurt to hit up Worldstream, so I've e-mailed them as well.
P.S. Phromik, speaking as a software developer who has been victimized by piracy, you're a hypocritical tool.
^ really no need for that last part, though I understand why you would say it.
s15274n said:
^ really no need for that last part, though I understand why you would say it.
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Really no need for him to roll in here and brag about his piracy, is there?
Fighting piracy is and will always be a losing battle, but when people are actually out there profiting from other people's hard work something needs to be done.
Signed and tweeted and facebooked. I will also follow suit and send emails to godaddy and Domainsbyproxy.
Except he's not bragging... he's being honest.
srqt said:
Fighting piracy is and will always be a losing battle, but when people are actually out there profiting from other people's hard work something needs to be done.
Signed and tweeted and facebooked. I will also follow suit and send emails to godaddy and Domainsbyproxy.
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GoDaddy are the domain registrant. The actual website is hosted on a dedicated server provided by worldstream.nl so you want to be contacting [email protected] as well as the Dutch anti-piracy outfit BREIN at [email protected]
It's interesting to note that the same dedicated server is being used to host several other warez sites including some pornography forums. I'm pretty sure neither the server provider or BREIN would be happy about these.
It's interesting to note that within the last 12 hours androidplayground has been taken offline. However I suspect this was done by the owner rather than any takedown notice. He has already set his twitter account to private and one of the last tweets he sent was about having a new server ready.
To Bad google isn't jumping on this. I mean you see his lame comment on nearly every app that comes out in the market.
What confuses me is why would somebody send him money to become a member knowing he/she is a thief in the first place.
The results of the petition will be sent to the domain registrar, the host and paypal in a three way attack. If all goes well, they'll lose their domain, hosting and ability to charge people through paypal simultaneously. I have already emailed all three of the companies to let them know about the petition.
So yes, while it may be a losing battle in the long run to fight piracy, at least we can do what we can. Signing a petition or firing off an email takes the same amount of time it does to write a post here, so why not help out?
Response from Worldstream:
Hi,
The website has been taken down earlier today.
Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
Dirk Vromans
Technical Engineer
Worldstream C.V.
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Although from one of the earlier posts it sounds like the site owner was already planning to move it anyway -- which is what I was getting at earlier. The best you can hope for is to just go chasing him around endlessly.
I saw the same crap over and over in the Palm Treo software world...
The new licensing system might help. =]
Phromik said:
...If pirating Android apps grew, devs might be less inclined to develop good apps for Android.
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Whatever....
Without defending what I consider to be a low-life, who spams every review on the Market, most pirates wouldn't really buy most products they steal, just as most people don't normally pirate stuff they genuinely want and like.
There are a ton of pirate sources for the iPhone, yet good developers do pretty well in the App store.
The only developers whining are the ones who have a crappy product and blame the nebulous evil of "piracy" for their lack of success.
This is outrageous!! Piracy should be free.
I mean that completely tongue-in-cheek, as I spend a LOT of money on android software. I admit I don't hate piracy in general, as a sort of try-before-you-buy system, but charging money for stolen goods is evil. These people are scum.
Former AndroidPlayground.net user
I used to use this site because I just assumed that they had an agreement with the developers. I couldn't even imagine the audacity it would take to charge people for pirated software.
One thing I do wonder, why do Android apps cost more than iPhone apps? This might be part of the reason people feel like they are being ripped off by the android developers and say, "screw you then".
NOT trying to justify it, but it is something to consider.
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One thing I do wonder, why do Android apps cost more than iPhone apps? This might be part of the reason people feel like they are being ripped off by the android developers and say, "screw you then".
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I'm just guessing, but so far all data indicates that iPhone users seem to be significantly more willing to pay for apps. I'm hoping this changes as the Android becomes more mainstream.

Ti 83/85/86 apps? What happened?

The Ti-8# apps developed by Doug Melton have mysteriously disappeared from the app market sometime in what looks like the past week. I thankfully already have these apps on my phone, but does anyone know why they were taken down?
Interesting....I had just redownloaded these after a fresh flash. They come in handh when I don't actually want to bring my TI-83 around with me.
Not sure why they got removed; he had quite a few emulators.
Are you guys seriously wondering why they were removed?
Anyway: http://twitter.com/supware/status/43803417298214912
They're called andy-8#
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They got the name change quite a while ago to Andy whatever. I still can't find them in the market... it shows that I have it installed but when I click on it on my app list it says the requested item could not be found. >_>
not surprising it will be removed due to the copyright problem
anyone want to post a dl link for those of us that couldnt grab them before the pull??
I have all 3...they have been on the market for so long I was under the impression that the author had proper licenses since from what I have read TI goes to great lengths to protect their intellectual property (sites that have posted TI calc roms for emulators have been taken down).
I would be happy to post a download link for all 3 providing it doesn't breach XDA rules. Even they are all freeware the fact that there is a licensing issue would probably make it illegal to post. I don't want XDA admins getting a nasty DMCA letter about hosting or linking to infringing material.
If a moderator replies with an ok, I'll post otherwise fuhgetaboutit.

Evo 3d s-off hboot 1.5

In testing stages now, but released credits to Evil_Devnull
MOD EDIT: link removed
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moosh3 said:
In testing stages now, but released credits to Evil_Devnull
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I tried and still doesn't work yet...
My phone doesn't even boot with the file in the root of the SD card...
Holyrolla said:
My phone doesn't even boot with the file in the root of the SD card...
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You are supposed to boot into fastboot while sd card is removed and install sd card while in hboot i'm assuming. Either way It doesnt seem to be working for others either.
moosh3 said:
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That file is the build.prop with a different name. All it does is tell the phone that there is a smart_io.crd file, but it doesn't have the right information on it. You could name anything smart_io.crd and you'll get the same results.
No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
I don't mean to show any disrespect, nor get involved in politics, but is there a root somewhere for hboot 1.5 that's freely available?
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No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
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Well by that logic, no apps can be linked to unless they're free. Unless the apk's are posted on XDA. Which is stealing....
the_scotsman said:
No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
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I get that he was banned for stuff but linking to the "think tank forum section" where they are actually working on the s-off process and doing so for free shouldn't be an issue really. no?
Or is it the fact he provides stuff for charge on a completely different and unrelated section of his site that can be done for free?
regardless seems hes messing with the smart_io.zip thing that the devs here rattled around for a long time before we got s-off. So far doesn't look like much more than a bunch of trial going on and somewhat familiar to what it looked like here to start with too.
How does one boot the phone and then be able to get the sd card in? the battery needs to be out for the sd switch?
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No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
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To appease your beef with a dev, I will change the link in my sig. Now I understand why he talks about you like he does. You could have asked me to remove the link rather than just helping yourself.
Not taking sides, honestly I could give a **** less what your beef with him is about.
Edit: Also, Before you go wrongly accusing people, you should have read some of the website.
Code:
We don't want any, at all, not one [email protected]#$ing cent!
No donations!
No annoying ads!
No Sales!
No Pride!
No Trolls!
Nothing like that here, this is a brain storming forum because
I'm tired.
Team Evil is tired.
And
Every vigor and 3d user is fricking tired of this lock.
We don't do this for money or rep, we do it as a hobby and its turning into a job.
Trolls will be banned.
No pissing in the creative juices of this think tank.
Nuff said. If you want to bxtch and moan do it in that forum.
Thanks
Devnull
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I support devnull for trying to help us out. He has made no remark as per charging for this. Until he does I think removing the link was unpreductive to our cause.
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Twolazyg said:
To appease your beef with a dev, I will change the link in my sig. Now I understand why he talks about you like he does. You could have asked me to remove the link rather than just helping yourself.
Not taking sides, honestly I could give a **** less what your beef with him is about.
Edit: Also, Before you go wrongly accusing people, you should have read some of the website.
Code:
We don't want any, at all, not one [email protected]#$ing cent!
No donations!
No annoying ads!
No Sales!
No Pride!
No Trolls!
Nothing like that here, this is a brain storming forum because
I'm tired.
Team Evil is tired.
And
Every vigor and 3d user is fricking tired of this lock.
We don't do this for money or rep, we do it as a hobby and its turning into a job.
Trolls will be banned.
No pissing in the creative juices of this think tank.
Nuff said. If you want to bxtch and moan do it in that forum.
Thanks
Devnull
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Right on. Stop being a **** scotsman, you and I both know you deleted the link because of the beef you have with him.
Take your relationship with. Him to the emails, just do your duty and moderate, don't censor.
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Before you all say anymore, please try getting your facts straight.
He is still charging $10 for downloading his Shift root kit...which can be done free of charge on xda using the same method, just as he was doing before he was banned.
I never abuse my moderator position in order to "fight my personal battles", so suggesting it is a waste of time.
If you still think I'm being a ****, go cry to the admin.
ok, back to business
So does this tool work, or not?
And where do I find this tool now that the link is gone?? (Mod, you have done a disservice here, unless that tool is already available on XDA. And if it is, where exactly is it?)
It doesn't appear to work, atm. Follow @evil_devnull on twitter or check his tweets at www.twitter.com/evil_devnull
@ scotsman, so even if he isn't requiring money for THIS project, nor on THAT site, you're going to stifle the news of his work by deleting links to THIS project at THAT site even though the issue is with another project altogether? Seems to me you should be blocking THOSE links that lead to the specific objectionable content, as we members clearly want to share news of THIS project and THAT site. Because there is NO current hboot 1.5 root anywhere free, or otherwise. I'm all for maintaining principles, but there is nothing against your stated principles on THAT site. So please stop blocking THIS news from spreading until there's something objectionable here. Otherwise it's called censorship, not protecting principles. You're blocking links just because they are associated with him and for no other reason.
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blauciel said:
It doesn't appear to work, atm. Follow @evil_devnull on twitter or check his tweets at www.twitter.com/evil_devnull
@ scotsman, so even if he isn't requiring money for THIS project, nor on THAT site, you're going to stifle the news of his work by deleting links to THIS project at THAT site even though the issue is with another project altogether? Seems to me you should be blocking THOSE links that lead to the specific objectionable content, as we members clearly want to share news of THIS project and THAT site. Because there is NO current hboot 1.5 root anywhere free, or otherwise. I'm all for maintaining principles, but there is nothing against your stated principles on THAT site. So please stop blocking THIS news from spreading until there's something objectionable here. Otherwise it's called censorship, not protecting principles. You're blocking links just because they are associated with him and for no other reason.
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It is on "that" site...same domain...
You can follow him on Twittter, which has been posted, so it's not difficult for people to find.
As I said, feel free to complain higher up if it bothers you that much.
I do not have a Twitter account and do not intend to open one.
So what other site has the info available?
Mod, I suggest YOU ask the admin what to do, because this seems stupid. We need the info which you are suppressing.
How about Hboot.000012? please don't ignore our GSMers, really need to unlock + soff and start flashing.
In all fairness, the_scotsman is correct. Most of you that aren't familiar with the HTC EVO SHIFT rooting drama, don't know the full story behind why he was banned. It's easy to look at one side of the story then just ignore the rest, but probably not very wise. I'm sure plenty of you have read the information/stories on devnull's website, although perhaps you should trust in the moderator's decisions since there is a lot that happened that you guys don't know about.

All my apps are installed in app-asec

hi,
i'm new on jelly bean (upgraded from ice cream sandwitch this night), and i have a little problem.
when i buy a app, i make a backup copy (manually) in order to not have to remember my installed apps
when i wipe.
but since JB, all my new apps are installed in /data/app-asec and the format is .asec
a possibility to convert into .apk or is possible to backup the .asec and reinstall from the .asec file?
thank's
bartito said:
hi,
i'm new on jelly bean (upgraded from ice cream sandwitch this night), and i have a little problem.
when i buy a app, i make a backup copy (manually) in order to not have to remember my installed apps
when i wipe.
but since JB, all my new apps are installed in /data/app-asec and the format is .asec
a possibility to convert into .apk or is possible to backup the .asec and reinstall from the .asec file?
thank's
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I am also having the same problem as yours. I usually manually pull .apk from data/app and keep it safely in PC. But now, every purchased app is sitting in data/app-asec with .asec extension encrpyted package, except a free app is still lying peacefully in data/app. This structure changed because of JB update ( every app is only in data/app for ICS ). Only method I came up with is using Ti-Backup and copy .apk out from backup folder.
However, I am still appreciated with any other solution to due with this encrypted install package. ( Since I prefer to pull .apk file manaully as usual ) :good:
Sounds like you are purchasing apps then making a copy in order to refund the app while keeping a copy. This is frowned upon here on XDA and is considered warez. Your thread will be reported to a moderator now.
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Mattix724 said:
Sounds like you are purchasing apps then making a copy in order to refund the app while keeping a copy. This is frowned upon here on XDA and is considered warez. Your thread will be reported to a moderator now.
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NO!
I'm developer, and I buy all my apps!
I save a backup of all my apps in order to don't have to re-download every time I make a wipe.
No more than do!
Mattix724 said:
Sounds like you are purchasing apps then making a copy in order to refund the app while keeping a copy. This is frowned upon here on XDA and is considered warez. Your thread will be reported to a moderator now.
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No it's not warez so back. They ud nothing wrong with backing up their apks. No one even mentioned warez so stop jumping into conclusions. Report the thread, its not gonna get any ware.
On topic: actually never thought of that idea to back up. Thanks op but I can see why Google is doing this, I think they changed it because of people who upload their apks online. It is a sheve how some people have to ruin it for others
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We'll leave it up to the moderator to decide whether this thread should stay open. You personally might not be doing this to get free apps but other members might see this as another way to get around this in order to obtain free apps.
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We'll leave it up to the moderator to decide whether this thread should stay open. You personally might not be doing this to get free apps but other members might see this as another way to get around this in order to obtain free apps.
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I completely agree with you. Like I said Google made a good decision doing this. But the op didn't intend it for that reason.
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Mattix724 said:
Sounds like you are purchasing apps then making a copy in order to refund the app while keeping a copy. This is frowned upon here on XDA and is considered warez. Your thread will be reported to a moderator now.
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No, it is not what you are thinking. He just intended to keep backup and restore them back in case apps are not working properly. For me, I have own 5-6 Android devices and I don't want to log in Google account in every device to download apps. So I just use only one device to download them and share to the rest of mine.
By the way, I'm also a dev. and I will not do something like that surely! I know how much pain is in developing one app.
On topic : .asec is needed to be decrypted back to .apk. Someone knows how ?
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No, it is not what you are thinking. He just intended to keep backup and restore them back in case apps are not working properly. For me, I have own 5-6 Android devices and I don't want to log in Google account in every device to download apps. So I just use only one device to download them and share to the rest of mine.
By the way, I'm also a dev. and I will not do something like that surely! I know how much pain is in developing one app.
On topic : .asec is needed to be decrypted back to .apk. Someone knows how ?
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I'm wondering the same thing. I want to decompile some paid apps to support the multi windows feature on the note 2.
Now, I have found those paid apps hidden in mnt/asec. Not sure about if it is encrypted with a device keycode but you may give it a try though. Hope this help.
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We'll leave it up to the moderator to decide whether this thread should stay open. You personally might not be doing this to get free apps but other members might see this as another way to get around this in order to obtain free apps.
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And how so, pray tell ?
I'm also in the same predicament as the OP, and i consider Google's move in JB as a blatant denial of EU (and especially french) law, which clearly states that every individual who legally purchases an app (or any other cultural "product", insofar as they can be called this way) has a (almost) god-given RIGHT to make a backup copy for safekeeping.. And it is especially infuriating considering that google wouldn't even fix their stupid "play store" app so it'd display the list of all purchased apps (as it used to do in the pre-ICS market app), making any new ROM-install a living nightmare when it comes to remembering all the apps you ****ing PAID FOR in the first place !!!
And why would you people report someone who asks such a question, automatically condemning him on no tangible grounds, making yourself the judge, jury and executioner in the process ??? it is especially stupid from you, considering that using this way to get free apps is a no-go, since the play store automatically recognizes if you purchased an app and if you didn't, it denies you any updates to the said app... You'd have to be a ****ing retard to opt for such an option, and I trust that (most) XDA members are way smarter than this (with the exception of the despicable people who rat out others on no justifiable grounds, that is)...
Are you an app-developer, or someone who actually has an interest to defend in this deal ? Your "senior member' status tells me you ain't, and my personal intuition tells me that you're no more than a lambda user who (unlike me) has probably never written down a single line of code in his whole life, nothing more than an (almost) "lamer", as we used to call them in the good old Amiga/AtariST days when I first learned programming in 68K assembler... Nothing wrong with that, except that it makes your opinion on this whole issue void of any credit, much less attention...
"Word to the wise" (and actually the easiest, most surefire way of living a long, healthy and troublefree life) : unless you have some personal interest to defend in the process, mind your own f-ing business, you nosy basterds !!
Ratting out on others is bad practice, and an recipe for trouble... Had you done this to me IRL, it would have guaranteed you a whacking 500g of very bony meat directly from my right arm right across your ugly mug.. And you even might have considered yourself as lucky at that, because I know a few very unfriendly people who for much less than this would actually have gone so far as to 'suicide' you with 2 or 3 bullets to the head, and your sorry remains would only have been discovered 30 or 40 years from now, in the cement foundations of a building undergoing demolition...
</flame off>
(My apologies to any people who might have felt offended by my words, but I can't help it, I ****ing hate delators... They're the first step to most of the horrors that my (and many other european) country has had to live in its darkest hours, sometime during the mid-20th century -during WW2, for the most ill-understanding of whoever might be reading this... Those scars never heal, they can only fade out very slowly. :s)
Many thanks to GoLfWRC a couple apps that I have updatedand for some reason wouldn't update on my ouya. Thanks again
Hi
i love xda
Query
So finally there is no solution??
what if i just want to restore my own app stored in asec folder after a ROM upgrade?
i put the files in .android_secure folder but it does nothing
Any help will be appreciated !!
Thanks
Interesting topic.
As I release a mod of a MIUI ROM weekly I asked myself some of the questions mentioned here.
MIUI system backup tool that comes with the ROM is of course not able to backup the ASEC folder stuff.
So users can backup the entire system (all settings, theme stuff, apps, contacts etc.) but not the encrypted paid apps.
Annoying thing. I wonder if it would be illegal to build a workaround, and if it is implementable somehow.
.asec files are actually little images mounted in /mnt/asec/. You can find a folder for each app there. And the pkg.apk in that folder is what you need. Other things in that folder are extracted from the apk.

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