In testing stages now, but released credits to Evil_Devnull
MOD EDIT: link removed
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moosh3 said:
In testing stages now, but released credits to Evil_Devnull
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I tried and still doesn't work yet...
My phone doesn't even boot with the file in the root of the SD card...
Holyrolla said:
My phone doesn't even boot with the file in the root of the SD card...
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You are supposed to boot into fastboot while sd card is removed and install sd card while in hboot i'm assuming. Either way It doesnt seem to be working for others either.
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That file is the build.prop with a different name. All it does is tell the phone that there is a smart_io.crd file, but it doesn't have the right information on it. You could name anything smart_io.crd and you'll get the same results.
No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
I don't mean to show any disrespect, nor get involved in politics, but is there a root somewhere for hboot 1.5 that's freely available?
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No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
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Well by that logic, no apps can be linked to unless they're free. Unless the apk's are posted on XDA. Which is stealing....
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No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
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I get that he was banned for stuff but linking to the "think tank forum section" where they are actually working on the s-off process and doing so for free shouldn't be an issue really. no?
Or is it the fact he provides stuff for charge on a completely different and unrelated section of his site that can be done for free?
regardless seems hes messing with the smart_io.zip thing that the devs here rattled around for a long time before we got s-off. So far doesn't look like much more than a bunch of trial going on and somewhat familiar to what it looked like here to start with too.
How does one boot the phone and then be able to get the sd card in? the battery needs to be out for the sd switch?
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No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
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To appease your beef with a dev, I will change the link in my sig. Now I understand why he talks about you like he does. You could have asked me to remove the link rather than just helping yourself.
Not taking sides, honestly I could give a **** less what your beef with him is about.
Edit: Also, Before you go wrongly accusing people, you should have read some of the website.
Code:
We don't want any, at all, not one [email protected]#$ing cent!
No donations!
No annoying ads!
No Sales!
No Pride!
No Trolls!
Nothing like that here, this is a brain storming forum because
I'm tired.
Team Evil is tired.
And
Every vigor and 3d user is fricking tired of this lock.
We don't do this for money or rep, we do it as a hobby and its turning into a job.
Trolls will be banned.
No pissing in the creative juices of this think tank.
Nuff said. If you want to bxtch and moan do it in that forum.
Thanks
Devnull
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I support devnull for trying to help us out. He has made no remark as per charging for this. Until he does I think removing the link was unpreductive to our cause.
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Twolazyg said:
To appease your beef with a dev, I will change the link in my sig. Now I understand why he talks about you like he does. You could have asked me to remove the link rather than just helping yourself.
Not taking sides, honestly I could give a **** less what your beef with him is about.
Edit: Also, Before you go wrongly accusing people, you should have read some of the website.
Code:
We don't want any, at all, not one [email protected]#$ing cent!
No donations!
No annoying ads!
No Sales!
No Pride!
No Trolls!
Nothing like that here, this is a brain storming forum because
I'm tired.
Team Evil is tired.
And
Every vigor and 3d user is fricking tired of this lock.
We don't do this for money or rep, we do it as a hobby and its turning into a job.
Trolls will be banned.
No pissing in the creative juices of this think tank.
Nuff said. If you want to bxtch and moan do it in that forum.
Thanks
Devnull
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Right on. Stop being a **** scotsman, you and I both know you deleted the link because of the beef you have with him.
Take your relationship with. Him to the emails, just do your duty and moderate, don't censor.
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Before you all say anymore, please try getting your facts straight.
He is still charging $10 for downloading his Shift root kit...which can be done free of charge on xda using the same method, just as he was doing before he was banned.
I never abuse my moderator position in order to "fight my personal battles", so suggesting it is a waste of time.
If you still think I'm being a ****, go cry to the admin.
ok, back to business
So does this tool work, or not?
And where do I find this tool now that the link is gone?? (Mod, you have done a disservice here, unless that tool is already available on XDA. And if it is, where exactly is it?)
It doesn't appear to work, atm. Follow @evil_devnull on twitter or check his tweets at www.twitter.com/evil_devnull
@ scotsman, so even if he isn't requiring money for THIS project, nor on THAT site, you're going to stifle the news of his work by deleting links to THIS project at THAT site even though the issue is with another project altogether? Seems to me you should be blocking THOSE links that lead to the specific objectionable content, as we members clearly want to share news of THIS project and THAT site. Because there is NO current hboot 1.5 root anywhere free, or otherwise. I'm all for maintaining principles, but there is nothing against your stated principles on THAT site. So please stop blocking THIS news from spreading until there's something objectionable here. Otherwise it's called censorship, not protecting principles. You're blocking links just because they are associated with him and for no other reason.
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blauciel said:
It doesn't appear to work, atm. Follow @evil_devnull on twitter or check his tweets at www.twitter.com/evil_devnull
@ scotsman, so even if he isn't requiring money for THIS project, nor on THAT site, you're going to stifle the news of his work by deleting links to THIS project at THAT site even though the issue is with another project altogether? Seems to me you should be blocking THOSE links that lead to the specific objectionable content, as we members clearly want to share news of THIS project and THAT site. Because there is NO current hboot 1.5 root anywhere free, or otherwise. I'm all for maintaining principles, but there is nothing against your stated principles on THAT site. So please stop blocking THIS news from spreading until there's something objectionable here. Otherwise it's called censorship, not protecting principles. You're blocking links just because they are associated with him and for no other reason.
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It is on "that" site...same domain...
You can follow him on Twittter, which has been posted, so it's not difficult for people to find.
As I said, feel free to complain higher up if it bothers you that much.
I do not have a Twitter account and do not intend to open one.
So what other site has the info available?
Mod, I suggest YOU ask the admin what to do, because this seems stupid. We need the info which you are suppressing.
How about Hboot.000012? please don't ignore our GSMers, really need to unlock + soff and start flashing.
In all fairness, the_scotsman is correct. Most of you that aren't familiar with the HTC EVO SHIFT rooting drama, don't know the full story behind why he was banned. It's easy to look at one side of the story then just ignore the rest, but probably not very wise. I'm sure plenty of you have read the information/stories on devnull's website, although perhaps you should trust in the moderator's decisions since there is a lot that happened that you guys don't know about.
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No Offense to Anyone in particular but I've been seeing Alot of threads Knocking Developers Roms... Now in My Opinion the Only way Anyone has the Right to say Anything is... If you can Cook your Own Rom up! Until then, Give them a Break guys there doing it for Free for Everyone to use!!!
good point. Many think rom development is like washing a car..little bit of this little bit of that..dry off. First build the damn car, test to make sure it runs...then wash it..and poeple still tell you the car is dirty!!! sheesh...
I have never personally knocked someone's work, but one problem I see are ROM "chefs". Not only do they know nothing about Android's framework, but don't know any programming language enough to write their own code. They are taking bits and pieces of other peoples work and pasting in, and calling it theirs', and calling it new. Hence the term chef. That really doesn't add anything to the community, it is also unethical in my opinion.
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No Offense to Anyone in particular but I've been seeing Alot of threads Knocking Developers Roms... Now in My Opinion the Only way Anyone has the Right to say Anything is... If you can Cook your Own Rom up! Until then, Give them a Break guys there doing it for Free for Everyone to use!!!
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I have never personally knocked someone's work, but one problem I see are ROM "chefs". Not only do they know nothing about Android's framework, but don't know any programming language enough to write their own code. They are taking bits and pieces of other peoples work and pasting in, and calling it theirs', and calling it new. Hence the term chef. That really doesn't add anything to the community, it is also unethical in my opinion.
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This. Most of the XDA twelve year olds don't know that. The OP of their favorite colored ROM is a god like "developer" to them, when in reality they are just wizards at cut, copy, paste, zip, unzip, ASCII images, ****ty changelogs, etc...
I said most though, not all. And I agree, they all put hard work into it, so appreciate it or just stay quiet and move on.
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Agreed
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Couldn't agree more.
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Sad Panda said:
I have never personally knocked someone's work, but one problem I see are ROM "chefs". Not only do they know nothing about Android's framework, but don't know any programming language enough to write their own code. They are taking bits and pieces of other peoples work and pasting in, and calling it theirs', and calling it new. Hence the term chef. That really doesn't add anything to the community, it is also unethical in my opinion.
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I gotta agree with this. There's very little "development" happening, and a lot of "cooking" happening. We need to have two separate sections. One for actual home grown roms, and one for things made in a kitchen.
I don't eat copypasta
I'm okay with some of the cooks as they add another element to let users find more combinations of roms bc not all the ones hard dev'd have everything you want or sometimes you would like to add a certain customization from another rom.
Now as long as proper credit is given in the OP all is good. Android is open source and sharing moss is what its all about. I personally don't think you should even ask to use polar mode long as u give the proper credit to them to begin with.
The issue I have is when people cook a ROM and then give zero credit to anyone claiming they did everything.
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PMGRANDS said:
No Offense to Anyone in particular but I've been seeing Alot of threads Knocking Developers Roms... Now in My Opinion the Only way Anyone has the Right to say Anything is... If you can Cook your Own Rom up! Until then, Give them a Break guys there doing it for Free for Everyone to use!!!
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Well its hard to say good rom to someone if their rom is buggy. We have to post feedback and let them know if there's any bugs. Not to be harsh and say your rom sucks but to say this, this and this doesn't work.
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gmfeny said:
Well its hard to say good rom to someone if their rom is buggy. We have to post feedback and let them know if there's any bugs. Not to be harsh and say your rom sucks but to say this, this and this doesn't work.
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agree. this is another reason why chefs are kinda annoying. they can't really provide support on a rom because they didnt make it. and with all those things pasted in it's harder to find whats making the problem.
ummm... i haven't seen one thread on here created to specifically slam or complain about a rom.
BUT that being said, i still have seen a lot of complaining about other crap... it gets old. there is no purpose in starting a thread simply to complain. it contributes nothing to anybody else.
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I don't eat copypasta
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Hahaha
sgt. slaughter said:
I'm okay with some of the cooks as they add another element to let users find more combinations of roms bc not all the ones hard dev'd have everything you want or sometimes you would like to add a certain customization from another rom.
Now as long as proper credit is given in the OP all is good. Android is open source and sharing moss is what its all about. I personally don't think you should even ask to use polar mode long as u give the proper credit to them to begin with.
The issue I have is when people cook a ROM and then give zero credit to anyone claiming they did everything.
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Yeah, I agree. Open source is fantastic, and frankly as I see it nearly everything should be open source. But like you said just because we develop something and open the source to be read, used, improved, etc does not mean it is at all ok to call it yours, or take my license agreement, or source citing out so you can be the cool developer who took features from 5 roms to give people what they want. That is no different than stealing my patio furniture that is left out and I let other people sit in, ****ing bastards!
The thing with open source, if I can use an analogy to describe my thoughts and personal feelings:
Scientists will study and develop experiments that help prove something or develop a new technological process, or invent something new will keep things to themselves during the initial startup but soon after the entire community knows what they are working on, their journals are made public, their papers are published to be critiqued, reviewed, improved upon. Sources are always made to stay, and credit is given and kept through every part, and every future discovery. If we didn't have this technological advances would be slow as balls.
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agree. this is another reason why chefs are kinda annoying. they can't really provide support on a rom because they didnt make it. and with all those things pasted in it's harder to find whats making the problem.
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Another perfect point. How do you support and fix bugs if it isn't yours and have no idea what you are doing?
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ummm... i haven't seen one thread on here created to specifically slam or complain about a rom.
BUT that being said, i still have seen a lot of complaining about other crap... it gets old. there is no purpose in starting a thread simply to complain. it contributes nothing to anybody else.
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Thats what I Meant...
Not that people actually start a Thread to Bash a ROM, but they Might as Well after Reading there Posts! Lol...
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I don't eat copypasta
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PMGRANDS said:
No Offense to Anyone in particular but I've been seeing Alot of threads Knocking Developers Roms... Now in My Opinion the Only way Anyone has the Right to say Anything is... If you can Cook your Own Rom up! Until then, Give them a Break guys there doing it for Free for Everyone to use!!!
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Don't kid yourself. All it takes is roughly 20 minutes to set up and build your first ROM. It requires no skill, no college degree, and no unearthly talent. Virtually anyone could do it.
While it does take a bit more knowledge to port things over, the end result is always lackluster and very much lacks in the "I_need_a_working_stable_phone_where_all_things_included_with_it_actually_work_as_described" category. There's nothing more annoying than needing your phone at a particular time only to discover that one of a few things are happening:
-your phone has managed to lock up
-your phone is in the middle of a random reboot
-your phone has a missing feature that doesn't work because of the ROM you're using
I suppose all the ridiculous disclaimers (who's seriously going to go after a person for not having one?) try and warn you, but the cute taglines trump the disclaimer anyway.
There are few development projects going on. However, there are plenty of "let me try and frankenROM a bunch of crap together, throw it into a cute thread with a tagline indicating that it's a work in progress and that there are nightlies."
Judging by the number of replies these threads get, you can deduct the following:
-the average person on XDA doesn't have a smartphone for it to work properly.
-the average person on XDA enjoys interacting with other people on a thread even though it's mainly a bunch of back and forth replies that are limited to such wording as "yeah, ___ is broken for me too", " _insert_app_here doesn't work properly and fcs a lot"
I don't know about you, but I'm not the average XDA person and I most definitely enjoy having a working phone, so with that said--Stock ROM with modifications is all that's required to satisfy me.
To be honest, there isn't anything exciting going on aside from chad's kernel development.
This is not directed at any one person, and the true developers know that this isn't about them. Quite frankly, we need this type of work going on because it pushes the envelope and tells companies like HTC that we won't settle for less and know damn well that it's possible to push our phones further than they would have us think. Which is why sometimes, HTC gets caught with their pants down and are forced to give in. EVO 4G fps fix anyone? So I do appreciate all types of work that goes on here at XDA. But there will always be a small percentage that are in it for the internet fame (and they seem to get it quite frequently) and really bring nothing to the table except a bringing together of various other people's works.
freeza said:
Don't kid yourself. All it takes is roughly 20 minutes to set up and build your first ROM. It requires no skill, no college degree, and no unearthly talent. Virtually anyone could do it.
While it does take a bit more knowledge to port things over, the end result is always lackluster and very much lacks in the "I_need_a_working_stable_phone_where_all_things_included_with_it_actually_work_as_described" category. There's nothing more annoying than needing your phone at a particular time only to discover that one of a few things are happening:
-your phone has managed to lock up
-your phone is in the middle of a random reboot
-your phone has a missing feature that doesn't work because of the ROM you're using
I suppose all the ridiculous disclaimers (who's seriously going to go after a person for not having one?) try and warn you, but the cute taglines trump the disclaimer anyway.
There are few development projects going on. However, there are plenty of "let me try and frankenROM a bunch of crap together, throw it into a cute thread with a tagline indicating that it's a work in progress and that there are nightlies."
Judging by the number of replies these threads get, you can deduct the following:
-the average person on XDA doesn't have a smartphone for it to work properly.
-the average person on XDA enjoys interacting with other people on a thread even though it's mainly a bunch of back and forth replies that are limited to such wording as "yeah, ___ is broken for me too", " _insert_app_here doesn't work properly and fcs a lot"
I don't know about you, but I'm not the average XDA person and I most definitely enjoy having a working phone, so with that said--Stock ROM with modifications is all that's required to satisfy me.
To be honest, there isn't anything exciting going on aside from chad's kernel development.
This is not directed at any one person, and the true developers know that this isn't about them. Quite frankly, we need this type of work going on because it pushes the envelope and tells companies like HTC that we won't settle for less and know damn well that it's possible to push our phones further than they would have us think. Which is why sometimes, HTC gets caught with their pants down and are forced to give in. EVO 4G fps fix anyone? So I do appreciate all types of work that goes on here at XDA. But there will always be a small percentage that are in it for the internet fame (and they seem to get it quite frequently) and really bring nothing to the table except a bringing together of various other people's works.
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Testify!!!!!
This is off topic but please do this and share it with as many people as you can.
http://americancensorship.org/
Today, Congress holds hearings on the first American Internet censorship system.
This bill can pass. If it does the Internet and free speech will never be the same.
Join all of us to stop this bill.
Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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right on dude...your totally right
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Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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There changed it. Lol sorry wasn't really thinking...
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Signed. This internet censorship **** scared the hell out of me.
Did it last night. I saw that unrevoked tweeted it last night.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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There changed it. Lol sorry wasn't really thinking...
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No no, don't be sorry buddy. You were just trying to be polite. I didn't mean to make my reply sound negative. I was trying to publicly show my support for the petition and your post. I'm the one that is sorry.
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Signed. This internet censorship **** scared the hell out of me.
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You and me both, buddy. This is so incredibly scary.
This just goes to show how our rights are being stripped away one at a time with bills such as these . Like gas prices example I used in another thread , slowly alittle bit , piece by piece they are removed and we accept it and move on . Knowledge shouldn't be restricted or controlled in any fashion . SIGNED
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Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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Dude, I love when you post stuff like this. Oh and hey.. supersize (or is it synthesize) me some drugs okay. Appreciate it.
signed with much pleasure! Good looking out OP
When did these petitions ever work? I can appreciate the effort, but you all realize it's not going to do jack ****. The site simply said "Thanks for sending the letter to your representative". Did it really send that? Where did it send it to?
I think most effective way would be to directly contact your representative's offices and express your concerns, instead of generating an automated email with identical text.
I just hope that we have enough people in congress with more than one functional brain cell to see that this bill is a pure nightmare and wreak all kinds of havoc. And I am sure it will be veto'd by Obama. But still, letting your representative know about it directly (without computer-generated letter) should be something that everyone does.
You can start here to get contact information: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
Directly contacted one of the reps in my area (Denver, Mike Coffman for anyone who questions me) as well as signed the petition.
Less government = more freedom. **** anything that would hinder my ability to know less than I should.
empiire said:
Directly contacted one of the reps in my area (Denver, Mike Coffman for anyone who questions me) as well as signed the petition.
Less government = more freedom. **** anything that would hinder my ability to know less than I should.
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The news does just that!
yousefak said:
The news does just that!
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Yes it does! Media outlets seem to hold the most power, with what they can do/manipulate people into believing though.
Bump
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The petition is technically already worthless, because it was already voted on, I can't find any news on it. Anyone?
However, there is still the possibly of a veto. The bill had 3/24 democrat so it was mostly a republican bill.
look like no vote yet..
but now google voicing their opinion
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ship-google-twitter-facebook-article-1.979020
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look like no vote yet..
but now google voicing their opinion
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ship-google-twitter-facebook-article-1.979020
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Thanks for the info
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Google was voicing their opinion even in hearing. But what sucks is that out of 6 parties invited to the hearing, only 1 opposed the bill. Basically, bill sponsors paraded people whom they knew would support it, and threw in Google to make it look more kosher.
Facebook and twitter from what i have read are against it
Nvm, nemith is being a jerk and taking away my fun.
You are a gentleman and a scholar. So bad ass dude. I'm looking forward to new developments. I shall donate.
Indirect just want to thank you and the other devs for all your hard work sweat, and what Im sure were some absolutely frustrating times. On behalf of all the xda members who actually know how difficult the tasks that gentlemen such as yourself take on with these android devices, we appreciate it, and implore you to please keep it up in spite of the unwarranted criticism from some. The development community has really changed the way we as a buying public interact with our devices, and I truly believe that the work you all do indirectly forces the hand of big business to create bigger and better....THANK YOU!
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Indirect just want to thank you and the other devs for all your hard work sweat, and what Im sure were some absolutely frustrating times. On behalf of all the xda members who actually know how difficult the tasks that gentlemen such as yourself take on with these android devices, we appreciate it, and implore you to please keep it up in spite of the unwarranted criticism from some. The development community has really changed the way we as a buying public interact with our devices, and I truly believe that the work you all do indirectly forces the hand of big business to create bigger and better....THANK YOU!
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Well-spoken, my friend. Exactly my sentiments.
DATRUTH141 said:
Indirect just want to thank you and the other devs for all your hard work sweat, and what Im sure were some absolutely frustrating times. On behalf of all the xda members who actually know how difficult the tasks that gentlemen such as yourself take on with these android devices, we appreciate it, and implore you to please keep it up in spite of the unwarranted criticism from some. The development community has really changed the way we as a buying public interact with our devices, and I truly believe that the work you all do indirectly forces the hand of big business to create bigger and better....THANK YOU!
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DATRUTH speaks the truth! Thanks for all the work. Can't wait to try this.
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I'm confused as to what exactly it is you think you've done here?
Stood on the shoulders of giants?
HKVC, Bauwks, Adam, then at the end Nemeth... they carried a discussion for 30 pages figuring out the bypass. Then you post a new thread to bring it to the public? Horrible.
I've never used CM, so maybe i'm wrong, but doesn't it come with installation procedures / instructions? Why would we need your new app here to be able to install it on our Nooks?
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I'm confused as to what exactly it is you think you've done here?
Stood on the shoulders of giants?
HKVC, Bauwks, Adam, then at the end Nemeth... they carried a discussion for 30 pages figuring out the bypass. Then you post a new thread to bring it to the public? Horrible.
I've never used CM, so maybe i'm wrong, but doesn't it come with installation procedures / instructions? Why would we need your new app here to be able to install it on our Nooks?
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1) I am simply making an app to make it easier on the general public
2) I havent released until I get permission from Bauwks
3) I only was making the thread for now, I just have the app in development still
4) This isn't a "I WANT TO TAKE CREDIT!", this is a I want to help end users have it be easier on themselves. That's it.
I like racecars.
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I like racecars.
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I like turtles.
I see London, I see France, I see Indirect's Underpants. lol.
Dammit Xdaghary, are they in a knot again?
I really really like my NT.
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Indirect just want to thank you and the other devs for all your hard work sweat, and what Im sure were some absolutely frustrating times. On behalf of all the xda members who actually know how difficult the tasks that gentlemen such as yourself take on with these android devices, we appreciate it, and implore you to please keep it up in spite of the unwarranted criticism from some. The development community has really changed the way we as a buying public interact with our devices, and I truly believe that the work you all do indirectly forces the hand of big business to create bigger and better....THANK YOU!
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Indirect,
Just wanted to say DOUBLE DITTO to Datruth and to ignore the trolls. There's always some hanging around hoping someone will notice them......
I just want to say I have names on my mind and yours Indirect are one of the ones I must say Thanks for your efforts ant time.
I dont see anyone else working on this. Please make this happen... someone. From my understanding the thread was a discussion and an exploit was pointed out. No one took credit from anyone else. Indirect always gives credit where credit is due. The consumers need things that make it easy... easier the better. Thats why I make videos for yall. I cant program for crap, but me making a video on your hack gets you donations. someone else building on your exploit gets you donations. No one is taking credit from anyone else and the point of an open source community is to build off each other.
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I dont see anyone else working on this. Please make this happen... someone. From my understanding the thread was a discussion and an exploit was pointed out. No one took credit from anyone else. Indirect always gives credit where credit is due. The consumers need things that make it easy... easier the better. Thats why I make videos for yall. I cant program for crap, but me making a video on your hack gets you donations. someone else building on your exploit gets you donations. No one is taking credit from anyone else and the point of an open source community is to build off each other.
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Albert, we can always count on you to say something worthwhile. Thanks man. I too cannot program for **** so people like indirect is helping brilliantly, bringing it to the lay person.
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I'm confused as to what exactly it is you think you've done here?
Stood on the shoulders of giants?
HKVC, Bauwks, Adam, then at the end Nemeth... they carried a discussion for 30 pages figuring out the bypass. Then you post a new thread to bring it to the public? Horrible.
I've never used CM, so maybe i'm wrong, but doesn't it come with installation procedures / instructions? Why would we need your new app here to be able to install it on our Nooks?
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Hey you Mr. please watch out how you write on this forum, we don't need people with this attitude, Indirect has made great things for us. With people like this is why many forums on XDA has become a hell and devs has quit and move on, so let's not permit that in here, we are here to help others and share our knowledge; next time be kind and polite.
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Nvm, nemith is being a jerk and taking away my fun.
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I understand that he is being an extremely low IQ male rooster with social development issues, but dude. Seriously. I know desire is part of the fun, but there are ALWAYS pricks around. There are LITERALLY hundreds if not thousands or people looking and watching and cheering you on every day. Don't let the squeaky wheel get the grease this time.
Also from my slightly conspiracy theory side, how can we be sure that this goober isn't a plant by B&N to try to pies off devs to stop development.....
Whether you continue or not, you are doing something I cannot, and I am extremely grateful for the work you have outing so far. Thanks man.
Posted from my B&N Nook Tablet... rooted of course!
Thank you lavero.burgos you are spot on. If you do have a issue, there are more polite ways to put your thoughts across. On the flip side some of the language in the responses were NOT acceptable, whoever you are! There are many idiots in this world, you need to rise above them. I will be contacting individuals about the matter.
I cant see this thread recovering now.
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MIUI Android discovered a key logger on MIUI.us. You can read about it on Twitter. MIUI Android contacted MIUI.us' dev but things got ugly afterwards.
Here's the (mobile) link to MIUI Android's Twitter so you can read everything if you're interested.
https://mobile.twitter.com/miuiandroid/tweets
I've posted this exact message on MIUI.us based ROM and the hellraised MIUI, WIUI thread just in case.
I don't know if I'm doing it right, this is my first thread here. I just want you guys know about the situation.
The name of the .apk in question is LatinIME. I don't know if any of the MIUI ROMS ports for our phone has that .apk.
Just be careful guys.
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Hmm that apk is on my old Moto Backflip that's running a "stock" CM7. The MIUI one must be a hack. Don't go deleting it just yet unless you're running the rom in question. I believe its for the keyboard or language settings but not 100% sure.
Edit: its also on my stock GS2. Didn't think to check it earlier but estxxas already told you what it was for below...
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Read more closely next time. It logs input from LatinIME... LatinIME itself is not malware, and this is the kinda stuff that convinces n00b users to start deleting things they shouldn't.
Edit: There is no keylogger.
Purchases started popping up on my Google wallet account while running miui.us. had to remove my car from the account. Shady
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estxxas said:
Read more closely next time. It logs input from LatinIME... LatinIME itself is not malware, and this is the kinda stuff that convinces n00b users to start deleting things they shouldn't.
Edit: There is no keylogger.
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I'm not saying people should go crazy deleting stuff. I'm just letting you guys know about the situation.
It got my attention because of the intensity of the discussion on Twitter.
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Craziness. I'm appalled my the immaturity of the situation and how the devs handled it. I browsed through the tweets to figure out what was actually going on and it looked like freaking world war 3. I am not going to assume anything or accuse someone of malicious behavior because for all I know there could be a legitimate reason for those lines of code. Last I gathered from the flames was confirmation that the logger was not sending any data to anyone
It's sad to see such discourse among Android developers.
On the other hand this goes to demonstrate how vulnerable smartphones are to hackers and cybercrime. More development needs to go into mobile information security. People just don't understand how serious security is. How often does it cross your mind that your data may not be safe on your mobile phone. Why do you think it takes so long for official firmware to be released? The carriers want to make sure that the firmware is secure and stable before it goes public.
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I am shocked by the maturity level displayed on the MIUIAndroid twitter as well as in the IRC logs&various conversations posted. That is one developer I would never trust running a ROM from. The person running the team is one very disgusting person.
http://pastebin.com/vVMkXRp6
Everything about the handling of the situation by this person makes me sick.
Do me a favor, do not give the OP any thanks for this post. This type of **** is FUD (look it up). The whole situation was due to a lack of knowledge about the classes in LatinIME. You can find the code from the CM git repo commit here.
It should have been discovered that this was not a key logger from the beginning. Instead it was blown up to proportions that it never should have been. Stop posting this crap, please.
P.S. the words logger + dropbox do not make for a key logger. Those "investigating" this should have looked into the code rather than spread rumors and false information. Oh and without android.permission.INTERNET in AndroidManifest.xml, this information goes nowhere.
Why did you just make this thread? Seriously? After *EVERYTHING* that went down the other day, you just decide to randomly kick up dust? What is your problem?
There is *NO* keylogger in MIUI.us ROMs. MIUI.us would never spy on its users.
Please see the CM git commit for the "MIUI.us keylogger" and mods, please delete/lock this thread.
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...android/inputmethod/latin/LatinImeLogger.java
I agree with those above me, the level of immaturity was appalling. However, I understand this is a very heated topic.
Maybe we should open a thread somewhere in the i777 forum where we can discuss mobile security.
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LongDuckDong said:
Purchases started popping up on my Google wallet account while running miui.us. had to remove my car from the account. Shady
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I call bull****. I bet you installed some third party app and honestly do not know what could have caused those supposed charges. Statements like this, without any evidence to back it up, is what makes the android community look bad. Spreading lies, rumors, and fallacies such as this is just plain sad.
I think this thread has run its course... Obviously this is very heated, but i don't believe it is appropriate for this board....
Hi, I would like to set up a collection for Eschelon so he could start developing roms for the note 2. If anyone could help it would be appreciated.
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Team synergy was awesome on the s3 and I will donate. Next week. Just donated to beans yesterday
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Is esch aware of this thread?
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I sent him a message today. He hasn't replied yet, but he has mentioned his work is keeping him busy. He did say if he was given one he would work on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34853878
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Man not to be a party pooper, but no one should be donating for promised work, especially when a device is as of yet publicly rooted.
I'm not sure if you ever dealt with synergy roms, but the guy does fantastic work. I also understand your reservations, but given the XDA community nothing is impossible.
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Man not to be a party pooper, but no one should be donating for promised work, especially when a device is as of yet publicly rooted.
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Try actually reading next time. Someone asked Eschelon if he was getting a Note 2. He responded with "no" but non-nonchalantly stated he'd be happy to dev if he ever got his hands on one, but he didn't anticipate it. That's it. He didn't make any false promises or even solicit this thread (I doubt if he even knows it exists).
And another thing: Why do you and your buddy Adrynalyne (who always seems to be sparring with some other dev team on a daily basis) always go after the Synergy guys? There's also a Beans donation thread here in the Note 2 section. Did you make a similar comment in that thread too? And Beans actually encouraged a donation thread, Eschelon didn't.
And yet here you are. Hypocrite.
Just because you've contributed to this community in the past does not give you authority to troll threads of devs you don't like while simultaneously giving others a pass.
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Try actually reading next time. Someone asked Eschelon if he was getting a Note 2. He responded with "no" but non-nonchalantly stated he'd be happy to dev if he ever got his hands on one, but he didn't anticipate it. That's it. He didn't make any false promises or even solicit this thread (I doubt if he even knows it exists).
And another thing: Why do you and your buddy Adrynalyne (who always seems to be sparring with some other dev team on a daily basis) always go after the Synergy guys? There's also a Beans donation thread here in the Note 2 section. Did you make a similar comment in that thread too? And Beans actually encouraged a donation thread, Eschelon didn't.
And yet here you are. Hypocrite.
Just because you've contributed to this community in the past does not give you authority to troll threads of devs you don't like while simultaneously giving others a pass.
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Excuse me? You are totally off base and utterly clueless on all of this.
I've never made a negative comment against synergy nor Eschelon, I don't even know who synergy nor Eschelon are. I am not a rom dev, nor rom user. I don't follow the rom scene dramas. My comments were for the person that started the thread, and still stand. It was not a troll thread.
Adryanline is just another developer, we have had many words before. We have not, and doubtfully ever would team up on anything. I do hold him in great respect because if his honesty and abilities.
I'm a hypocrite for what, I called out three threads for the same issue. I have never supported donation before work done. So you not know what the definition of hypocrite is?
Hell I've bought other devs phones with donations from my work.
People like you burning bridges are why some promising devices don't get support from many very capable developers.
I'm going to bring up the donation before producing a product issue in the ERD forum. Thanks for providing the push to do so
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Excuse me? You are totally off base and utterly clueless on all of this.
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You don't even know me, so don't arrogate to yourself this self-insisted authority to tell me what I know and what I don't. I've seen you on this very forum go directly after Virus and Ziggy in the past (Synergy guys), and now here you are again, and yet you completely ignored the Beans bounty thread. I'm not clueless at all, I've been watching you - a very public person in the Android world - for some time now. Your past actions speak louder than your current words.
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So you not know what the definition of hypocrite is?
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> Says people shouldn't be donating in a thread that currently has zero dollars pledged and where none was solicited from the dev as a "promise" (your word, not mine) to work on the device
> Says nothing in a thread in which almost $400 has been pledged and was solicited directly by the dev
> Accuses me of not knowing what a hypocrite is
Yea, ok buddy... (rolls eyes)
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People like you burning bridges are why some promising devices don't get support from many very capable developers.
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But you advising people to NOT get a device into a dev's hands helps promising devices get more dev support?
Out of respect for the rules of this forum this is all I will say on the matter in this public setting. Say whatever else you want as I do not wish to continue this and end up violating XDA's terms. I'm out.
All I can say is wow. My only reason for creating this was for a great developer to get a chance to work on the note 2. If I had realized it would cause this much animosity I would have never started this thread.
I apologize, and I'll do what I can on my own to get him the note 2 . I have no idea how he finds time between his work and his family life to devote time to develope, but the selfish me is glad he does. I just want to reward him for his hard work and dedication.
It may take me a month or 2 , but I'll get that phone in his hands.
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You don't even know me, so don't arrogate to yourself this self-insisted authority to tell me what I know and what I don't. I've seen you on this very forum go directly after Virus and Ziggy in the past (Synergy guys), and now here you are again, and yet you completely ignored the Beans bounty thread. I'm not clueless at all, I've been watching you - a very public person in the Android world - for some time now. Your past actions speak louder than your current words.
> Says people shouldn't be donating in a thread that currently has zero dollars pledged and where none was solicited from the dev as a "promise" (your word, not mine) to work on the device
> Says nothing in a thread in which almost $400 has been pledged and was solicited directly by the dev
> Accuses me of not knowing what a hypocrite is
Yea, ok buddy... (rolls eyes)
But you advising people to NOT get a device into a dev's hands helps promising devices get more dev support?
Out of respect for the rules of this forum this is all I will say on the matter in this public setting. Say whatever else you want as I do not wish to continue this and end up violating XDA's terms. I'm out.
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Seriously, you are lost and comments about bean don't even make sense, hr was the first I commented join regards to this.
I dont know Virus nor of his work, but Ziggy I and I had words, nothing to do with anything but his policy on ignoring the GPL. I do believe his work wasn't even allowed here for a while because of that.
How the heck am I suppose to track what groups a random Dev is working with at any given time.
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8. Donations.
We appreciate all donations to xda-developers.com, it keeps our forum online and well maintained. As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.
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Hey guys can someone donate to me so I can get my gf this phone? Shes not a dev but very pretty.....
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You don't even know me, so don't arrogate to yourself this self-insisted authority to tell me what I know and what I don't. I've seen you on this very forum go directly after Virus and Ziggy in the past (Synergy guys), and now here you are again, and yet you completely ignored the Beans bounty thread. I'm not clueless at all, I've been watching you - a very public person in the Android world - for some time now. Your past actions speak louder than your current words.
> Says people shouldn't be donating in a thread that currently has zero dollars pledged and where none was solicited from the dev as a "promise" (your word, not mine) to work on the device
> Says nothing in a thread in which almost $400 has been pledged and was solicited directly by the dev
> Accuses me of not knowing what a hypocrite is
Yea, ok buddy... (rolls eyes)
But you advising people to NOT get a device into a dev's hands helps promising devices get more dev support?
Out of respect for the rules of this forum this is all I will say on the matter in this public setting. Say whatever else you want as I do not wish to continue this and end up violating XDA's terms. I'm out.
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Dude, I might not always agree with jcase, but he's always been consistent. He did say something in the bean thread...
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This is no way to run a contribution thread to buy a device for a developer - plus you have to have permission from the developer to even start a donation thread.