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Which 2.2 ROM do you think has the BEST capability to handle the requirements from the HTC Hero?
EDIT: if i missed a/your ROM i'm really sorry!! i can add it if you like, thanks!
the CM6 nightlies are missing.
I am currently testing floyo 1.01 as it is newer (and so more up to date including, finally, a French Canada QWERTY keyboard!) than froyd 1.5 (my last ROM). Also it comes with less crap built-in (not hard to remove, but still). However I think that froyd's policy of switching to the conservative governor while screen is off is a better idea for long battery life. Too bad we need an extra application to handle that (CPUspeed).
I also like the fact that the gallery 3D doesn't rotate. It didn't work anyways.
But what made me change is that I had random reboots when I used my phone with Froyd 1.5.
CM6 for the win anyways. Most (all?) of these roms are based on CM6 so they don't differ much.
Hey dont forget to add cronos froyo, great rom and responsive developer, im sure a good number of us still try out his roms
Id suggest trying out the last three plus cronos froyo, until froydvillain comes out with their updated version since the current one is a bit out of date
You should definately add the nightly builds as an option, i've been running one of the builds for..dunno coming up to a week i think, and its so smooth, consistently, no lag what so ever, and fast, and stable
also to add to the problem, i tried the bluetooth, i cant receive files but i can send files to others..
ooops wrong thread sorry..
yeah its been awhile... i forgot about Crono's ROM, going to flash it right now and compare it with Floyo.
took the advice that FroydVillain may be a bit older relatively and it seemed like the FusionROM wasnt so stable. might try elelinux after crono's but i doubt it... still need to see which one could possibly run Adobe AIR!
zorxd said:
I am currently testing floyo 1.01 as it is newer (and so more up to date including, finally, a French Canada QWERTY keyboard!) than froyd 1.5 (my last ROM). Also it comes with less crap built-in (not hard to remove, but still). However I think that froyd's policy of switching to the conservative governor while screen is off is a better idea for long battery life. Too bad we need an extra application to handle that (CPUspeed).
I also like the fact that the gallery 3D doesn't rotate. It didn't work anyways.
But what made me change is that I had random reboots when I used my phone with Froyd 1.5.
CM6 for the win anyways. Most (all?) of these roms are based on CM6 so they don't differ much.
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First any ROM with flykernel-11 (including Floyo 1.0+) will by default use smartass will automatically cap the speed when sleeping to 352. So actually that is much better for battery life when idle and it does not require any app.
Regarding floyd's policies, I am actually not aware of such an option. It's definitively not in the kernel, so if it does exist it's an option of the included CPU speed app....
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Hey dont forget to add cronos froyo, great rom and responsive developer, im sure a good number of us still try out his roms
Id suggest trying out the last three plus cronos froyo, until froydvillain comes out with their updated version since the current one is a bit out of date
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That is very unfortunate, as that developer has chosen to keep all his work very private and "top secret" and will not share his knowledge, not even on problems he has claimed to solved and was asked to share his solution specifically.... I understand that such issues just look like power struggles to users which do not follow the technical development threads very closely but actually in this case there are very good reasons why this developer is not allowed on XDA.
In the long run such developers do not advance android/hero development at all.
Before someone starts to throw things at me let me just explain my doubt.
As many of you I have been waiting for the update to 2.1 for a long time.
I have read most of the reviews that cover what changes from 1.6 to 2.1, but I see many people trying to revert back to 1.6.
I would just like to know if in your opinion it is worth updating an U20i to 2.1.
Thanks for your input.
i updated my x10 to android 2.1 for the sake of very good apps
So there are no unbearable bugs or drawbacks in Android 2.1 from 1.6?
So far we have 4 votes for 2.1, anyone care to explain what were the major gains or major drawbacks / problems after the update?
Keep the votes coming
there are no diffrences except the browser the base system and the skin
axy_david said:
there are no diffrences except the browser the base system and the skin
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This almost sound as a funny answer. "There are no differences, only everything changes" hehe
Rofl, I like 2.1 now after getting it to work, wouldn't want to go back tbh.
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oh.. and faster operation, less battery use.. live wallpapers.. more apps.. I can't think of any reason anyone would not update
More than one Gmail account. That was killer for my gf
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rlly how much ofthe updates do u rlly use???
2.1 is useless
i want 2.2 so i can get the flash playeer
yesyes i know the stupid snapdragon
however NO MULTITOUCH in 2.1
thats an biig bug!!!!!!!
stupid SE shoud go and kill themselves
well now we know who voted against the 2.1 :=)
I should do the update tonight if I am able. Then I'll leave a comment too
My phone got slightly faster. But I updated mostly for the apps
I've just updated to 2.1 and I too note less freezes and a smoother operation. Plus I got my phone debranded and I have access to all the nice applications available on the android market.
Lets see if we can get the bootloader cracked and are able to eventually get 2.2 or even 2.3 on this wonderful device.
The only annoyance I have with 2.1 is I can't seem to get default input to stay off, something keeps reactivating it.
Hi
I have a brand new Motorola Defy on T-Mobile UK still running 2.1. It is red lens. There is still no official update for it.
Whilst I am quite geeky, I prefer my phone to just work. So once I have upgraded it I don't plan to do so again for another 12-18 months unless there is a really good reason to update before hand.
So I am looking for a stable update, that will still be compatible with new apps in 12-18 months time. I want the updates for the following reasons: speed, battery life, as few bugs as possible, stability, any camera improvements and 720p video recording.
Yes it is a long list I figure an Android 2.3 is probably better than a 2.2 for future proofing. Last night I spent a few hour reading the wiki and information about lots of roms.
I am not looking for help in how to do anything as there are quite a lot of info on the threads about it. I would just like to know which is the best rom/s to install now, from experienced users.
Thanks Alex
The official update for T-Mobile UK android 2.2 (froyo) has been out for a couple of weeks now - it's on the Motorola Software Update site ready for download. There's also the retail version there that would have no operator logo etc.
I'm using CM7 on my UK Defy (green lens on mine as it's an early one) & find it be the best ROM I've used so far - much better than the stock eclair it came with & better than the froyo ROMS I flashed (used 2 leaked UK 2.2 & a Nordic 2.2).
I'd recommend CM7 as it's very stable for me - no random reboots or freezing like would happen from time to time on 2.1 & 2.2 when I had those.
CM7 is still in development but it's working fine for me but if started using it you may need to flash an upgrade every so often but this was quite easy for me & only took a few minutes.
MIUI is also out for the Defy - haven't used it myself so can't comment but it seems popular.
Thanks for the info.
Can anyone tell me how I can get this posted in the General section?
I have no idea how it got into the Themes and Apps section.
It might be on the motorola website but over an hour later I cannot get the installer to recognise an internet connection, so I will give up on this. CM7 doesn't yes support 720p recording so I will try something different.
if you want a customisable and pure speed ROM, it's CM7, but if you dont plan to tinker a lot, then MIUI is pretty good as it's already a pretty nice looking ROM, with a lot of iOS influence
Im so good at listening to advice I ignored it all and tried to install 2.3.4 from forum.xda-developers com/showthread.php?t=1135901.
Somehow I not get a flashing red moto logo, system restore and bootloader do nothing and the phone does not show up on my computer. At a bit of a loss what to do now!
Remove battery, and put it back.. While starting keep the vol up button pressed. It ll take u to moto bootloader state. Connect to pc with usb. Use rsdlite software to detect it.. Then flash with any full sbf of ur choice to give back life to ur defy...
Thanks for the info. It sounds so simple. Sadly after hours of trying this morning I still can't get the phone to turn on.
First of all: check if your phone has a green or red lens (the answer is here). If your phone has a green lens, sorry, but nothing can be done for it to record 720p videos (hardware limitation). But, if your Defy is brand-new, you'll probably get the red lensed one, because green lensed Defy are old and, AFAIK, not selling anymore.
If you want speed and stability, with 720p recording, I recommend you to install Barebones Froyo with Hancock's 720p mod (mod available here). For better compatibility, ROMs based on the leaked GBs are the best option, and there is also a patch for it to be able to record in 720p (even though I wasn't able to get this one working on my phone - but many people did and are satisfied with it).
For speed + stability + compatibility, CM7 is the one to go for. But it doesn't have 720p enabled yet (some nightlies do, but they're not stable, and even on these nightlies, 720p is not working for everyone).
MiUI is also stable - and beautiful - but not as fast as CM7. For CM7's speed with the looks of MiUI, check here for the Meizu theme.
First thing first... Flash back your phone with full sbf. I would recommend start flashing froyo 2.2.2 since you're from 2.1.
I assume your Defy is red lens as it is newly bought right.. Flash gingerbread 2.3.4 and patch it the 720p followed with installing lgcamera for video recorder. Lastly patch it multitouch to have more than 2 fingers touch. You can find these all in the developer section. Above poster already guided you how to go into bootloader, clean cache and installing rsdlite drivers. Take one step slowly...
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Hmm... my Defy is a May 2011 model (taken from the serial number) brand new UK retail version from Amazon. Updated to 2.2.2 from the Moto site. Lens is clearly Green...
CM7, out of the question.
CM7... da best u can hav!
CM7 is really stable for defy!
Stock 2.2 GB rooted and overclocked is really nice.
Current custom roms break too much at the moment for me.
I need an infrastructure hot spot, stable wifi, gps that does not need agps to lock and working fm receiver.
I fancy a go with CM7 or miui, but I am going to wait a while for all the fixes to roll in. The devs need people to test and use these roms, but with over 2 million hits i think they have enough already
Ask yourself if you really need a custom rom yet?
I would recommend either a stock froyo rom or adlxmod froyo, as they are stable and won't require any real upkeep. Adlxmod can be updated directly from the phone itself and is hassle free.
CM7 is probably one of the best roms but has nightly updates almost everyday, which is great for people like me who want to be on the bleeding edge but not if you dont want to update.
Stock 2.2.2 GB retail via MSU has 1-2 random reboots/day marring its Kudos. Always when you really don't need it...
True, I forgot about that, I tried it for an hour and was amazed that the official was that bad. In that case nordic froyo is very stable and 2.3.4 motoginger is also very good too, just takes a bit longer to install though.
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Stock 2.2.2 GB retail via MSU has 1-2 random reboots/day marring its Kudos. Always when you really don't need it...
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Really? Wow, mine has been rock solid with overclock to 1Ghz. My hero running MoDaCo and villain used to bork out all the time, but the defy has been up for 3 days now using gps, sms, email, wifi tether and web and not a single reboot or lock.
Running launcher pro with scale transition effect and it is very smooth and responsive - very pleased with it so far.
Sounds like I might be doing something wrong
I wonder if some folks hardware (mem and cpu) is a bit flaky? Might be interesting to see place and date of manufacturer of those units that are rebooting. Still does not explain why they can run CM7 well though.
Practically every rom has ran fine for me except 2.2.2 uk. I even used MSU and then re-did using rsdlite, both instances it was terrible. If I was a standard user and didn't experiment with different roms I probably would have been pissed you must be one of the lucky ones.
I´ve just bought a Vibrant Galaxy S and I was thinking in updating it to gingerbread. First I thought there was an official release since most of the galaxy s have gingerbread now but to my surprise no gb for Vibrant. After reading this forum I have come to no conclusion whether I should update to 2.3.4 by using CyanogenMOD because if I read it correct it seems:
1) that Cya 7 drains battery faster than samsung stock 2.2 rom.
2) Also, it seems that all the samsung stock apps doesn´t come with Cya7. What app does it comes with for SMS, dialing, etc?
3) Why can´t you use roms from Samfirmware.com, there´s a I9000BVJJW4 2.3.3 there, is it incompatible with Vibrant?
4) What about the Dark Rom which also features 2.3.4, what´s the main difference from cyanogen? does it comes with touchwiz?
Thank you guys.
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I´ve just bought a Vibrant Galaxy S and I was thinking in updating it to gingerbread. First I thought there was an official release since most of the galaxy s have gingerbread now but to my surprise no gb for Vibrant. After reading this forum I have come to no conclusion whether I should update to 2.3.4 by using CyanogenMOD because if I read it correct it seems:
1) that Cya 7 drains battery faster than samsung stock 2.2 rom.
2) Also, it seems that all the samsung stock apps doesn´t come with Cya7. What app does it comes with for SMS, dialing, etc?
3) Why can´t you use roms from Samfirmware.com, there´s a I9000BVJJW4 2.3.3 there, is it incompatible with Vibrant?
4) What about the Dark Rom which also features 2.3.4, what´s the main difference from cyanogen? does it comes with touchwiz?
Thank you guys.
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1- yes it does. thats the catch that comes with speed and performance.
2- Yes, it comes with SMS, dialing etc. IT doesn't come with the samsung music player, but the default one that google made. You will have to flash GAPPS after CM7 to get the Market, and the other stufff.
3-I9000 is another phone. We are T959
4- i cant answer that because idk
get the revamped miui it saved this phone I was going to ditch ditch my vibrant the I discovered it along with bali kernel WAY better battery life then when I was I 2.2 rom I can't even remember which rom I was on before miui
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Well I would say use TW roms mix between speed an battery aan HW browser is nice once it gets better kernel then it will be better but if u want straight battery froyo CM7 is stock so no TW its just raw speed only thing bad is that browser sucks without HW
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So revamped miui will give me better battery life than froyo? is it touchwiz? any bugs (I will use GPS)?
Why gingerbread?? Its .1 more.
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Its the same reason we were clammoring for froyo from eclair, but aside from that its the latest and greatest software, i will say that CM based roms are by far the smoothest my phone has ever been and if you are truly worried about battery life read up on the kernels you can add like bali and glitch then undervolt and you can get pretty good battery life or atleast comparable to stock. I personally get about 14-20 hours depending on my usage in a day. Typical day consists of several 100 texts 2-3 20-30 minute phone calls, maybe total 1 hour browsing and other miscellaneous use.
how many of you still using stock 2.1 ROM ?
Sometimes if I've screwed up my phone (rare) I'll get back on the stock ROM and I kind of like it. I think the stock SE style is elegant and beautiful, and I like many of the stock apps. I just like the features of 2.3 and the inbuilt efficiency of 2.3 etc. I always try to get some stock SE styles on the newer ROMS, and try hard to get as many stock apps as possible.
Unless I'm slightly dim and missed something, I CANNOT use the stock Cyanogen calendar without connecting to the internet. That is NOT a calendar option. Having to connect to the internet to just look at a date is just stupid and not a benefit from the stock ROM.
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how many of you still using stock 2.1 ROM ?
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I had minicm7 for while but I went back to stock, besides the stability I just missed the UI
I just hate stock 2.1 and how it looks and feels. MiniCM7 2.1.3 w/ stock kernel is a LOT faster and generally better than 2.1 ever was/will be. My phone is as stable as it can be. I have left it at stock overclock which is 691Mhz and it NEVER reboots.
Only time it does reboot, is when I force it to.
I still use it, but is because both xRecovery and CWM have problems. Tried everthing to make it work again, but nothing happens.
There are no problems with CWM and x10 mini pro.
A better version of the original UI (theme, launcher) can be found on the newer ROMs like MiniCM7 and Gintonic.
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I do is a lot more faster!!
Probably this is just about the x10 mini, not pro. But i guess, the preinstalled OS and software are pretty much the same, although i had a 1.6 when i bought it.
I was using this for a quite long time, roundabout one year, as i was a bit uncertain to brick my device in case i screw up or don't read something carefully enough.
But on a boring day i went and gave it a try (MiniCM7 pro, iirc it was right when V14 was released). While fearing as f*ck during installation process and waiting until complete (showing no errors - YES ), i was totally happy afterwards. So no, i would never ever switch back to the standard software which Sony Ericsson released with this phone. It was slow, battery consuming and it had way less features than the custom ROM i'm using now. I'm happy with that.
I'm surprised by some of the responses - the thread title is primarilly aimed at those who use the original SE (at least a little or all of the time). No where in the title do I see an invitation to complain about stock 2.1 and advertise about the brilliance of other ROMs. Seriously, re-read the title...
Sorry for that - i thought the thread kind of indicated a discussion of why or why not use the stock rom. No offense meant
Still use the default ROM
I kinda like the ROM that originally came with the mobile, and still use it.
I ROOTed the mobile though, within one month of purchase, as the battery was a serious problem (due to autoruns).
After Rooting, I am able to get at least 1 day of battery.
There was even a time when the battery lasted for three days before it came to 5%.
(I put my phone on charge only when it reaches 5% or below )
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i only use stock when a custom rom is somewhat unstable then once a new release of one of my favorite roms come out i run for it and install it immediately and test it. if the rom is stable enough i keep it and stick with it.
for now i use stock rom until gintonic or minicm7 pro is stable enough to use it in all its features.
i'm planning to try gintonic 2.5.1 to continue testing of it
From the moment i buy this amazing phone i didn't like that blue background. At the moment i use mod black v 1.6 from flex96 and when slade87 add Zombiepanic to his rom gin tonic.SE. I'll use this one
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I hate the Stock version
I have miniCM7-2.1.3 and a HTC sense Theme it´s much better then the Stock
I like stock rom because of radio, timescape, works all the applications, no lag etc but i have minicm7 because i need dsp and ultra brightness (especially the second is very important here in Greece with the sun) so ..
Those WHO of YOU likes STOCK ROM. Here is a POST to simply find them under ONE Roof >>>>>>>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587177
WHo knows you could be surprised!!!!