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I have some questions that might sound stupid, but I just rooted my first 2 phones over the last 2 days, so I'm definitely new at this and still don't know a lot about this.
I have a defective Thunderbolt (VERY frequent reboots caused by the May OTA update) that I got Verizon to replace with a Droid Charge. I rooted the Thunderbolt because I wanted to be able to do things with my phone that the manufacturers prevent you from otherwise doing (such as changing the font, installing new ROMs, etc). I need to send the Thunderbolt back to Verizon, but I still have it and figured this would be a good time to experiment with rooting.
Anyway, what I want to know is if there's a way to pull the HTC dialer, calendar, contacts & e-mail apps off of the Thunderbolt and put them on the Charge (and, have them actually work!), as I really like those apps. As I said, my Thunderbolt is rooted, and I found things on it like Calendar.apk, HtcContacts.apk, and HtcDialer.apk, but there are also other files with similar or related names. My Charge is rooted also, with a non-stock kernel (imnuts' PeanutButta Jelly Time) and a non-stock ROM (GummyCHARGED 1.8.5).
So, if anyone knows how to do this and could explain to me how to go about it, I'd REALLY appreciate it!
Thanks,
Dennis
You can try pulling some of the system apks from the system/app folder like the calender. Dialer might be a little more complicated, think that's something integrated in he framework or with sense . Know there are a lot of other installable dialer and keyboards out there so sure its possible
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dmw_4814 said:
I have some questions that might sound stupid, but I just rooted my first 2 phones over the last 2 days, so I'm definitely new at this and still don't know a lot about this.
I have a defective Thunderbolt (VERY frequent reboots caused by the May OTA update) that I got Verizon to replace with a Droid Charge. I rooted the Thunderbolt because I wanted to be able to do things with my phone that the manufacturers prevent you from otherwise doing (such as changing the font, installing new ROMs, etc). I need to send the Thunderbolt back to Verizon, but I still have it and figured this would be a good time to experiment with rooting.
Anyway, what I want to know is if there's a way to pull the HTC dialer, calendar, contacts & e-mail apps off of the Thunderbolt and put them on the Charge (and, have them actually work!), as I really like those apps. As I said, my Thunderbolt is rooted, and I found things on it like Calendar.apk, HtcContacts.apk, and HtcDialer.apk, but there are also other files with similar or related names. My Charge is rooted also, with a non-stock kernel (imnuts' PeanutButta Jelly Time) and a non-stock ROM (GummyCHARGED 1.8.5).
So, if anyone knows how to do this and could explain to me how to go about it, I'd REALLY appreciate it!
Thanks,
Dennis
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You can try to use titanium backup on your Thunderbolt to backup all user apps, system data, and system apps. Remove the Micro SD card. Insert your Micro SD card into the Droid Charge, and use Titanium backup to move certain apps that you would like to use. However, keep in mind that the stock HTC apps, may not work properly on a Droid Charge. ie, keyboard, tethering, etc. Hope this helps.
system apps are going to need the htc framework to run.
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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system apps are going to need the htc framework to run.
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madroix said:
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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He could get lucky and someone will make a port of sense for samsung phones like they did for touchwiz and non samsung phones. Until then, I'd say he's stuck.
madroix said:
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
dmw_4814 said:
No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
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Here's an alternative, maybe post this in the Charge section of the forums, as I doubt very many people in the Thunderbolt section are fond of the Charge or would be able to help you mod it. Just saying.
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Mean Bro Greene said:
Here's an alternative, maybe post this in the Charge section of the forums, as I doubt very many people in the Thunderbolt section are fond of the Charge or would be able to help you mod it. Just saying.
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Yeah, I only posted this here because it involved pulling apps off of the Thunderbolt, and I figured Thunderbolt owners would know the most about doing things like that!
Dennis
dmw_4814 said:
No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
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All of that still doesn't change the fact you have samsung hardware not supported by the htc sense framework by default. You might have something close to AOSP and still using touchwiz (such as the stripped/themed roms on the thunderbolt) or you might just have an actual AOSP based rom. However, none of that changes the fact that the Sense framework supports sense hardware (which none of that samsung uses) and many of the drivers on the phones are not opensource and so that's what keeps from being as simple as pulling off some .apks on a sense ROM and installing onto your phone. As mentioned, you are far more likely to find someone who can build a sense like framework/launcher from the ground up in the samsung centered or general android development forums than here.
If we're going to resort to name calling and insults by either party, I'll just report the thread to a moderator, because none of that is really needed it's off topic. There's been too much hate going around lately on xda and it just turns off those that really try to help (like me).
If you want a lead of some party to ask, I would contact the developers that ported the touchwiz interface to all android phones or start asking in the older samsung forums that have more development going on (or in the general ones as mentioned). They would probably be the most interested in helping as I mentioned before. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/modified-touchwiz-4-launcher-for-all-android-devices/ (these guys)
ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.
good questions. i'd like to see these answered too
fxb141 said:
ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
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Welcome to the world of Android! We hope you enjoy your stay ^__^. While I don't have a TBolt myself, I think any user opinion is good. Phone's auto updating is rare, like extremely rare, but I have seen it on some of the lesser model phones. I don't think you need to worry about it though. The free hotspot app however may be noticed and tagged as a tether as big red gets their chubby fingers around the few apps they are missing.
To root or not to root, that is the question.....or is it! The answer is up to you. If your comfortable with it than root it! All rooting will do is give you superuser ability, and the ability to flash custom roms/kernels/mods. If you want to keep the stock rom, than all you need to do is flash and nothing more. Rooting your phone doesn't auto flash some random rom. Roms are typically not built with an auto updater, so you only need to reflash a rom if you want to change roms or update to the newest version. I would say I flash at least an image a day on my Dinc. Once your rooted, regardless of the rom, I would suggest downloading some backup software (Titanium Backup or it's like for TBolt) and of course a tethering app, whether you want wired or wireless is up to you. Once you root, you lose your connection to big red's update servers and so you never have to worry about an update that returns you to stock like you do with i<anything's>.
Happy flashing!
fxb141 said:
ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.
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Tbolt just got netflix last week for stock users.
Even if you are not going to flash a custom ROM right now, I would root.
Reason being that rooting requires you to flash old firmware so your phone gets wiped. Better to do it now, then that way you can use apps like Titanium backup.
fxb141 said:
ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there are OTA's that can't be rooted.
What rooting your phone will do is install a new stock ROM which means it will wipe your whole phone. From there you can flash up to anything you want. Don't do rooting the lazy way. Use the ADB process and do it right. If you have a problem along the way, you'll be very glad you did it that way because you'd end up getting into ADB to fix any problem anyhow. Plus, jcase and other at andirc.net are very helpful.
If you root you will end up with whatever ROM is used during the root process. If you go to the development threads and to the stickied rooting instructions it will show you what RUU is used for the rooting process.
If you havent updated your phone you might even find that the ROM you get after rooting might be a newer version of the one you are using. If you want to stick with that ROM you can and just debloat it yourself or find another debloated ROM out there.
Once rooted you can use it similar to how you used your stock phone with no extra maintenance steps needed. If you start flashing nightlies or alpha/beta ROMs then you will start needing to monitor your phone for behavioral problems more.
There are no OTA's that cant be rooted. When an OTA comes out and you are rooted you should wait on flashing it as you would loose root if you did but in just a few days the dev's will create a rooted version to flash. Those OTA's will then be started to be used as the base for new ROMs.
Root! Root! Root!
As far as requiring tinkering as has been mentioned just rooting alone won't change a whole lot for your regular experience. The fun comes in trying out new ROMs. Some of the ROMs out there are very stable and once installed shouldn't need a whole lot of tinkering either (unless you get the FLASH habit that so many seem to develop and decide to flash a new one every day *wink*).
I rooted and installed Thundersense 1.5 onto mine, it's pretty nice. While I am running into some problems with bluetooth audio, having root capability means I can actually tinker with the phone's settings to try to fix issues instead of waiting forever for Verizon/HTC to push out another update that may or may not resolve whatever issue I have.
Not rooting is like driving around in a sports car with a parachute tied to the back.
Just do it.
When you root following Jcases method in the dev section you end up with a bone stock 1.13.605.7 with root. You might still get prompted for updates if you stay on the stock build but DO NOT ACCEPT if rooted. It will just cause problems and you might lose root or worse. I havent heard of Thunderbolts updating themselves but I have heard of Evos, I belive, that did. (according to users posts) So you never know but I belive something to do with Clockwork Mod Recovery(A custom recovery for android that you install after rooting.) will cause the update to fail anyway. As I understand it right now all OTAs can be rooted BUT the Gingerbread update will apparently close all known exploits to get root when it is released. There will always be rooted versions of the stock OTAs posted in the dev section you can flash if you want the newest updates and to be rooted. Of course there are lots of custom ROMs for the Thunderbolt to try out that are fast and stable. So I say root. It takes some reading and learning if you are new to it but its will worth it.
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rooted and reloaded software
Thanks all for your advice! I successfully rooted my TB and it only took a few minutes to reload my apps and get it into working order. netflix is jumpy now, but could be the connection - going to mess with that some. not a big loss anyway - more of a 'wow, thats cool' than useful.
appbrain and HTC Sync with outlook contacts worked great for quick 'restore'
another question though - i am trying to remove the bloat and things like vcast and vznav will not let me uninstall. what is the best way to do this? i know i am rooted - barnicle works and has superuser access.
also, any good cooked sense roms that someone can recommend? not looking for one that constantly needs attention, just some cool things like cpu under/over clocking ability, and if SOMEONE would get a ford sync app that i could use voice command to text over sync - that would rock too!
Synergy ROM is my ROM of choice. It's based on the newest GB leak for the Tbolt, and has Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features, so I find it less laggy than full on Sense 3.0 ROMs, and Ziggy's kernel (included in the ROM) works great with no SetCPU needed. It's worth a try. You can find a link to the download in my sig.
Happy flashing!
that's awesome. i was think this very thing. I'm sold, I'm rooting.
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Synergy ROM is my ROM of choice. It's based on the newest GB leak for the Tbolt, and has Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features, so I find it less laggy than full on Sense 3.0 ROMs, and Ziggy's kernel (included in the ROM) works great with no SetCPU needed. It's worth a try. You can find a link to the download in my sig.
Happy flashing!
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Thanks, I would probably try this ROM - Is there anything i would need to change on my stock everything, no updates, no frills TB - like, will i have to update the radio before flashing?
I must say, i love the synergy rom! it seems fast and really rocks! I did have to update my stock base version radio MR1 to MR2.5 so i had service. flashing went great. many kudos to each and every post i read with regard to rooting, flashing, radios and roms!!! yes, i am a lurker, but thanks all around!
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I must say, i love the synergy rom! it seems fast and really rocks! I did have to update my stock base version radio MR1 to MR2.5 so i had service. flashing went great. many kudos to each and every post i read with regard to rooting, flashing, radios and roms!!! yes, i am a lurker, but thanks all around!
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Glad everything worked out and that you are enjoying Synergy. Don't be afraid to try other ROMs though. I've flashed almost every rom out there and decided to keep synergy.
Sent from my HTC GingerBolt powered by the lastest Synergy ROM
Too many horror stories for me to root just yet. However I get multiple update demands from verizon every day which is driving me crazy, and today was the first time it actually tried to update itself without permission. I just happened to open my phone at work and saw it trying to download the update on its own. There was no way to cancel it either, I had to reboot the phone immediately to make it stop. It has yet to reappear, but we'll see what happens.
Rooting isn't worth it. Most of the ROM's out now are just plain awful (some people have no taste).
What are these horror stories you speak of?? I haven't heard of one person brick their phone rooting and that's the only horror story I can think of involving rooting. It's actually a pretty easy process if you just read up on what you are doing first.
As for the claim all the ROMs suck...well everyone if entitled to their opinion but there are Froyo sense and de-sensed ROMs, Gingerbread sense and de-sensed ROMs, and AOSP ROMs. You can have sense 2.1, 3.0, or no sense. Lots of themes to choose from if you want them. I don't see how that list is any different from any other HTC phone. That is not even including the fact that a lot of them greatly improve performance and batery life.
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Hey guys, I am a former Iphone user and have been jailbreaking for about 2 years so Im not a dummy persay but I have been really overwhelmed by the android transition, I am not afraid of technology but I jumped before looking this time....
Long story short, I have fought and fought and finally got Cleanrom running but honestly I am so frustrated with the stuff thats missing now that I just want to go back to stock and learn more about Roms and addons before doing it again.
I have seen other threads but wanted to be sure we are talking about my versions that I have involved.
(started stock rezound with 2.3.4 unlocked and perm rooted.)
Scotts Cleanrom GBE 1.7.5
Amon Ra 3.15
I have seen all kinds of ways to get this done and so many different references to files to get an load.
Could someone please take a few minutes and lend an android noob a hand.
It will be greatly appreciated.
Just use the official HTC RUU but make sure your phone is locked. It will bring it back to the 2.3.4 that is stock when you buy the phone.
Did you make a Nandroid backup of your stock rom before you wiped your phone and installed CleanRom?
...and i'm left wondering what did scott take out of the CleanRom that you want back in the stock rom? Scott just removed the Verizon bloat and actually added some features...
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...and i'm left wondering what did scott take out of the CleanRom that you want back in the stock rom? Scott just removed the Verizon bloat and actually added some features...
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Well the use of backup assistant was nice and now all my contacts are screwed up having synced with google and trying to arrange them with facebook is a chore now. other than that its a really nice rom but I guess Im just speaking out of fear worrying if I have broken something that I should have left alone. I know all about bloatware and un-needed addons but well yea. Just wanting to put the issues that I had behind me and not really feeling safe until I know its back in order I suppose. I am learning to live with it right now, just looking for a backup to my dilemma if I need one is all.
Thanks
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Well the use of backup assistant was nice and now all my contacts are screwed up having synced with google and trying to arrange them with facebook is a chore now. other than that its a really nice rom but I guess Im just speaking out of fear worrying if I have broken something that I should have left alone. I know all about bloatware and un-needed addons but well yea. Just wanting to put the issues that I had behind me and not really feeling safe until I know its back in order I suppose. I am learning to live with it right now, just looking for a backup to my dilemma if I need one is all.
Thanks
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Ok...I think most of things you can get to work in CleanRom, but a step at a time for android converts! Have fun with it.
phalenx said:
Well the use of backup assistant was nice and now all my contacts are screwed up having synced with google and trying to arrange them with facebook is a chore now. other than that its a really nice rom but I guess Im just speaking out of fear worrying if I have broken something that I should have left alone. I know all about bloatware and un-needed addons but well yea. Just wanting to put the issues that I had behind me and not really feeling safe until I know its back in order I suppose. I am learning to live with it right now, just looking for a backup to my dilemma if I need one is all.
Thanks
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Just delete all your current contacts. ALL OF THEM. And start over but make them all sync with Google to begin with, make sure they're in google, not on the phone. It makes flashing roms and modding your phone SOOOO much simpler, not to mention if you switch phones in the future, they're all in google and will instantly be loaded onto you phone whenever you sign on with your google account
If you do start over, enter them via the contact page on gmail, makes it easier to manage them on your computer then they will just sync to the phone. If you do add a contact on the phone, change the contact type to google on the add contact page.
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Hello all. I've had my G3 for 3 weeks and am loving it more every day. I came from a note 2 which like every android phone before it I rooted to obtain better performance. However I'm not really seeing any performance issues with the G3 to justify it.
I do miss profiles from CM, but its not a deal breaker. It would be nice to backup my apps, but idk if there is really a need.
I guess what I'm asking is are you guys seeing any huge gains by rooting other than being able to get rid of the bloat?
Of course people on this forum are going to be pro-root. It's a ridiculously simple process with Stump and will take you 5 minutes at the most, but if you're not using root apps like Root Explorer, AdFree, WiFi Tether Router, etc. or don't want to deck your device out with G3 Tweakbox then just keep it as it. I couldn't imagine having an Android device without root access, although I do agree this device is pretty awesome out of the box. I don't see myself flashing a ROM on this anytime soon.
I would have to agree with the guy above. I just recently bought my Sprint LG G3 and its only been a few days but I went ahead and rooted it because I believe I can get even more out of it (as in battery life). I do not care for performance as I believe the G3 is already a powerhouse. However, I just now rooted my G3 and the only (and probably the last besides flashing roms here and there) root adjustments I have done is remove stock applications that I would not of been able to if I was not rooted. I believe that stock applications can slow down your phone since they are always running in the background (which can take up battery and potentially data).
All in all, if you truly are satisfied with your phone's performance, don't root. Rooting is complicated and comes with lots of risks. If you already love your phone and nothing bothers you (like stock apps for me, etc.) then don't bother.
Hope this helps!
Well that's my issue, 2 things that are irritating me are not having root explorer and apps being able to save to the SD card though I know root won't fix that.
I guess I just am tired of flashing roms right now maybe. But I do miss having root for a couple apps and I'd love to get rid of some bloat for sure.
Can you successfully freeze or uninstall the connections optimizer? Anybody running the pre-rooted zv6?
Macguyver said:
Well that's my issue, 2 things that are irritating me are not having root explorer and apps being able to save to the SD card though I know root won't fix that.
I guess I just am tired of flashing roms right now maybe. But I do miss having root for a couple apps and I'd love to get rid of some bloat for sure.
Can you successfully freeze or uninstall the connections optimizer? Anybody running the pre-booked zv6?
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You can uninstall it completely on stock rooted zv6
SD Card writing is a big reason
The ability to restore prior apps and data has saved me a few times when I updated to what turned out to be a buggy app update.
Nandroids, nandroids, nandroids. Which wouldn't be important except for:
- The ability to freeze / delete bloatware (there are a few big battery killers among LG's bloat)
- The ability to install various sorts of patches and tweaks (to increase volume, for example)
G3Tweaksbox, G3Tweaksbox, G3Tweaksbox
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Custom Kernels - eliminate the stupid over-sharpening once and for all.
BarRin ROM
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The first few days I had this phone, I wondered if it'd be the first android device I hadn't rooted,because it was pretty impressive as is. But within 2 days, I couldn't stand having bloat, I couldn't stand not having root explorer, I couldn't stand not having inverted apps, and I couldn't stand not having tether, and mostly, i couldnt stand not having the ability to fix/change sh1t that I may find to be buggy down the road.
Yes, it's a great device stock. But without root, it's not YOUR great device.
meyerweb said:
SD Card writing is a big reason
The ability to restore prior apps and data has saved me a few times when I updated to what turned out to be a buggy app update.
Nandroids, nandroids, nandroids. Which wouldn't be important except for:
- The ability to freeze / delete bloatware (there are a few big battery killers among LG's bloat)
- The ability to install various sorts of patches and tweaks (to increase volume, for example)
G3Tweaksbox, G3Tweaksbox, G3Tweaksbox
Xposed
Custom Kernels - eliminate the stupid over-sharpening once and for all.
BarRin ROM
Ad Blocking
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thanks guys,
so with the ROMS like BarRin apps can write to the SD card?
Macguyver said:
thanks guys,
so with the ROMS like BarRin apps can write to the SD card?
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Yes, BarRin includes this fix. There are also stand-alone apps that provide that capability on rooted phones, like this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
Root is the only way. It gives us our phone back. Gets rid of bullsh**. They wanna watch us and secretly see what we do. That is not cool. Take back our phones. Why must sprint load us with bloat? The sheep have no idea how much we are watched. There is no agreement that says they can see everything we do openly. We agree when we buy that does not mean it has to stay that way.
The main reason I rooted was to obtain tehering (hotspot)and not pay extra $$$
Hi,
Back in the days of the Samsung Moment on SDX developers, and then later on also here with the Droid 2 (my last phone) once rooted, there were uninstall scripts that could be loaded from ES File Explorer to remove alot of the bloatware and factory apps, if you did not want to install a new rom.
Anything like that existing now, or a list of apps that can be "safely" removed?
Me too Me too (being a pain in the ass)
hondaatc said:
Hi,
Back in the days of the Samsung Moment on SDX developers, and then later on also here with the Droid 2 (my last phone) once rooted, there were uninstall scripts that could be loaded from ES File Explorer to remove alot of the bloatware and factory apps, if you did not want to install a new rom.
Anything like that existing now, or a list of apps that can be "safely" removed?
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Adding a "MEE TOO" to your question.
I've had this phone a week after breaking my vs980 (I mean crunch, hardware) and in the week I've had the i605 I've spent more time reading, and reading, and READING (and goin, oh holy crap.... this s**** is serious!!!) trying to figure out how to make the phone usable.
On MY terms, ha ha.... From what I see, some of the Dev's that make the ROM's from stock are stripping out SOME of the "bloat" but even the stripped stock ROMs are 4x more footprint than AOSP. From what I understand if we have a 4.4.2 phone we can't go to AOSP ROMS. I still find that hard to believe but I've made some expensive bricks (and learned alot unmaking the bricks) being impatient and just "assuming" well if THIS works, then, in theory, THIS^2 will work.... Ha ha.... I'm trying to be more patient and careful.
I'm not sure how to go about asking the very busy Dev-Guru's how to pare the thing down to the bare bones (or offer some clumsy help) Or at least point to the comments in the source code that will instruct...
THX