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Hey Im sure it may have been brought up before but I didnt find much in the search area.
I dont want a fight or two I just figured XDA Dev was all about modding/flashing/unlocking PDA/Smartphones? Why is there no free unlocking kit? Also all the paid versions go directly to the XDA forum web site and not into anyone elses pocket?
Dont misunderstand im not here to ***** about whats going on but I thought thats what this site was about - Developing -. If the site really needs help with donations and thats the whole point of this then thats fine. I just remember back in the HTC Wizard days it was all for fun.
Anyhow I'm about to e-Gay a fuze right now im pretty excited and as always keep up the good work XDA
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eddy
wrong subforum, and this HAS been gone over 100s of times, so why did you even bother posting this useless thread?
have you tried here?
Yeah I visited that website but it doesn't mention that its going towards the forums. Is it going 100% towards the developer? I know it says Donation I was just wondering. If the developer wants money for the software thats fine if people want the phone unlocked they will pay it.
I was just asking this because Its always been a free community from what I remember.
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eddy
*shrug* They have good rules, I like em.
1) If you give back to the community, they give you it for free -- so if you're a 'developer' or just plain help, they help you
2) SIM locked or locked, most apps don't care what SIM card is in there
From what I saw from the thread, they just want to charge 'free loading' users for their work, while still allowing community members/participants free services.
Props to them, IMO, They gave me a free unlock and I still donated.
am not really sure if you get the idea or the concept of developing an idea. but im pretty sure youd agree that any developer can do whatever they wish with what they develop irregardless of whatever community you can enumerate. unfortunately, the developer as he says:
"you want a free SIM Unlock right? well tough ****, there's no such thing as a free lunch... if you want to get something, you need to give something."
the developer has developed a sim unlocker for free for the the hermes (of which i have used) and probably its about time he gets compensated for what he deserves.
Tough **** indeed.
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am not really sure if you get the idea or the concept of developing an idea. but im pretty sure youd agree that any developer can do whatever they wish with what they develop irregardless of whatever community you can enumerate. unfortunately, the developer as he says:
"you want a free SIM Unlock right? well tough ****, there's no such thing as a free lunch... if you want to get something, you need to give something."
the developer has developed a sim unlocker for free for the the hermes (of which i have used) and probably its about time he gets compensated for what he deserves.
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Anyone fool enough to talk to potential customers in that manner deserves NOTHING. If he's that much of a jerk in general, what's going to happen when you need customer service? Is someone that speaks to the public in that manner someone you wish to trust?
There are cheaper solutions on ebay and they won't treat you like garbage.
This has been discussed several times.
BTW. Olipro has unlocked a whole lot of devices, most of them for free, he developed custom SPLs which allow us to flash any ROM to almost any device.
The so called Hard-SPLs always have been provided for free.
Which is amazing, this will allow us to truly customize our devices, be grateful for that, there are only few who can accomplish this patching of the bootloaders, and make flashing relatively safe!
Mostly the n00bs and the non-contributers have been *****ing @ him, mainly because lately the SIM unlock isn't free for them.
And this is something I don't understand: if you buy a locked phone it is heavily subsidized, you pay less for the device BECAUSE it is locked.
The small donation that is asked for the non contributing part of the community is peanuts in regards to the actual cost of a non-cloked device.
So even if you have to pay for the unlock: your device is still way cheaper than if you bought the unlocked device to start with.
Olipro's unlock method works even if the carrier relocked the device, you can't say that from the code sellers (they have only the HTC codes, not the carrier codes if they changed it).
And it also gives you the opportunity to secure-unlock the device and change the CID.
Nobody else is offering this.
Does anyone else think we should spam twitter again, till we get a fully unlocked boot loader and are able to use NV Flash? maybe its time to start another twitter spamming, it worked before, it could work again
No because it could easily backfire and Asus just take back the unlock tool. They aren't under any obligation or law to provide us that tool. That was just a good will gesture they did by providing us. They could easily just call us ungrateful bastards and removal the tool n shut down servers to it. Then there's nothing anyone could do. Its just like someone giving you free money. Then you complain its not enough n want more. I'd say OK you ungrateful mofo, and take my money back..lmfao
NvFlash will come soon enough thru more civil methods.
So from what I understand, either HTC or AT&T has plans of dicking over the populous when it comes to the bootloader. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I don't have any updates on the issue so i don't know if it's happened yet or not. In any case, if you end up in a situation where you cannot obtain the unlock token from HTC for the bootloader, try out Unlock Phone Bootloader by Unlock Root. I personally have used Unlock Root time and time again to root and unroot my old LG MyTouch and my husband's Q with no issues. No need to use command prompt. Just plug in your phone to your comp, enable USB debugging and hit start once the program is on it way. I completely forgot about the bootloader program during the whole process of obtaining drivers and getting ADB and what not. I only remembered just now becaue I'm fixing to root my phone and wanted to see if Unlock Root supported our phone. It's new to the US market, but not the international. So I didn't use the Unlock Bootloader. But, if i ever have to turn this phone in for whatever horrible reason, I'll keep this in mind for myself.
Anyways, Get the program. Give it a shot. It's literally really easy to use. No drivers and command prompts and the like. I'm about to root my phone with the UR program, if it's supported. Have fun. And post if the UB program was actually a success.
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Not sure if serious or Spam....
gunnyman said:
Not sure if serious or Spam....
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Sure looks like an effing ad to me!
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Hogwash. OP should know better than to post methods not tested on the device in discussion.
SPAM
You cannot use the same partition hacks that were used on the previous HTC models.
Awe sh!t the big guns have shown up!
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Awe sh!t the big guns have shown up!
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Well sites like that steal our hard work and monetize it.
designgears said:
SPAM
You cannot use the same partition hacks that were used on the previous HTC models.
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Not spam clowns. I'm that good at selling a product. Do what you want, it was a suggestion. I said try it. If it worked, post it so others will know and feel comfortable trying it out. Or don't try it. I could give ZERO ***** what you do.
And by the way, this OP says you can't know if something works if you don't test it first. Someone has to test it. Just like trying out a new hack, or ROM or even an app, is all testing. You know, that thing called Beta testing? But what do I know, right? I've only been Rooting and romming for 2.5 years.
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Well sites like that steal our hard work and monetize it.
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And Oh Nos for someone taking the time to make a program that compiles all the "hard work" into one place and makes it easier for many to root their devices, especially those who run into issues like getting ADB to sync on their comps or figure out what SDK files to use. And "bad developer" for charging a fee for their hard work in making said program. Some people ask for donations. You pay for full version apps in the Play Store when you really like the Lite versions. Bad, Bad developer for embracing capitalism. Providing a service and charging a fee. But wait! Unlock Phone and Unlock Root are both FREE unless your phone falls under some special circumstance that requires the "full version".
oooooooo kayyyyyyyyy
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Exactly.
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And Oh Nos for someone taking the time to make a program that compiles all the "hard work" into one place and makes it easier for many to root their devices, especially those who run into issues like getting ADB to sync on their comps or figure out what SDK files to use. And "bad developer" for charging a fee for their hard work in making said program. Some people ask for donations. You pay for full version apps in the Play Store when you really like the Lite versions. Bad, Bad developer for embracing capitalism. Providing a service and charging a fee. But wait! Unlock Phone and Unlock Root are both FREE unless your phone falls under some special circumstance that requires the "full version".
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Its a shame you've been rooting and romming that long yet you're still such a noob, not to phones but to the community in general.
No one is against capital at least not the ones you directed that at in this thread.
If I donate my time to build something that I release for free, because I want to do something for the community, and then someone else decides to use my work and my code and sell it for profit, that's stealing my work and selling it as their own.
All that aside I just plain don't like things such as these because people who couldn't find the instructions and run ADB or use the sdk don't need to be unlocking their bootloaders.
I spend a few hours a night teaching users how to use ADB and fastboot, helping with remote troubleshooting. I also spend a couple more hours answering questions. I could easily charge a small fee send them a script or remotely do it for them and cut them loose. But I enjoy this community and the more people who learn the fundamentals the better the community is. The last thing I want to do is capitalize on something which has the ill effect of me surrounding myself with a bunch of uneducated helpless noobs who will screw things up royally, because a large portion of those users will commit warranty or insurance fraud simply because they don't have the ability to pull a logcat.
I'm a greedy bastard I put in about 70 hours a week with my businesses so I can work my way to the top. I have no problem with capitalism. But there is a place for ethics in capitalism and without it, things go downhill.
I didn't mean to sound to harsh, but when I know the sacrifices some of the people like beaups and jcase have made such as spending thousands of dollars on hardware to get the process to a point its safe and anyone who can read directions can achive unlock, it irks me to see someone jump on their case or put quotation marks to insinuate their hard work is something other than coming home from the real job and sacrificing sleep, family, and social obligations just to better the community as a whole.
I know you didn't realize the hornets nest you were about to uncover, and I hope readers realize I don't have malicious intent.
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So from what I understand, either HTC or AT&T has plans of dicking over the populous when it comes to the bootloader. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I don't have any updates on the issue so i don't know if it's happened yet or not. In any case, if you end up in a situation where you cannot obtain the unlock token from HTC for the bootloader, try out Unlock Phone Bootloader by Unlock Root. I personally have used Unlock Root time and time again to root and unroot my old LG MyTouch and my husband's Q with no issues. No need to use command prompt. Just plug in your phone to your comp, enable USB debugging and hit start once the program is on it way. I completely forgot about the bootloader program during the whole process of obtaining drivers and getting ADB and what not. I only remembered just now becaue I'm fixing to root my phone and wanted to see if Unlock Root supported our phone. It's new to the US market, but not the international. So I didn't use the Unlock Bootloader. But, if i ever have to turn this phone in for whatever horrible reason, I'll keep this in mind for myself.
Anyways, Get the program. Give it a shot. It's literally really easy to use. No drivers and command prompts and the like. I'm about to root my phone with the UR program, if it's supported. Have fun. And post if the UB program was actually a success.
Link to site: http://unlockroot.com/
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A) wont work on this phone, if it does then its just grabbing a token from HTC and unlocking like another chinese program out there is doing
B) its a thief's program, stealing work from people like me.
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A) wont work on this phone, if it does then its just grabbing a token from HTC and unlocking like another chinese program out there is doing
B) its a thief's program, stealing work from people like me.
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Hi there nexus users
With your nexus phone purchase, you gained a pure android, google full-support and development encouraging, and an option for bootloader unlock.
For us, the LG G4 users its isn't that simple.. LG lets only the europain market to unlock their bootloader, and won't encourage development or given any support at all..
You, the developers, probably understand how hard is not to be able to have a bit fun with your device, and test it's limits..
So.. we opened a petition, which standing on 4,195 signs now, of sad lg developers and customers.
Please, help us gain our purpose! If you really care, sign this petition:
https://www.change.org/p/lg-electronics-unlock-bootloader-on-all-g4-devices
Its a matter of seconds, just type in your name & email and make our dream come true, so me, and another 4,194 people will have the chance to actually use android like you need to use android
Thank you! I hope that this community will show their power to LG, and make a real change!
Not gonna happen, no matter how many signatures you get. I ditched that albatross long ago, and got an MXP, and now the 6p. Give up, and buy a Nexus.
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Not gonna happen, no matter how many signatures you get. Give up, and buy a Nexus.
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We believe it can happen. at-least if we hit 5,000, it will increase the awareness of LG to this issue.
Please, sign the petition. its a matter of seconds which can help a whole community.
Thank you!
Sorry, but you're dreaming. This has been going on far too long already on the G4 boards, and now you're spreading it onto other boards. At this point , the phone is old news. It won't attract any developer support. Face reality, and buy a phone that can be unlocked, if you want to flash stuff. Just...let it go.
Please post in the G4 section if you really want, this is for 6P general. Not a place to rig 6P users into helping you in petitions for the G4.
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https://community.zteusa.com/community/blogging/blog/2016/08/10/did-somebody-say-bootloader
From Petershih:
We have heard you loud and clear. Throughout the last two months on Z-Community you have voiced the desire for an unlocked bootloader for the Axon 7, and today we are making this a reality.
In fact, an unlocked bootloader was something that has been in discussion internally at ZTE for quite awhile. But upon hearing more and more discussions on Z-Community about this topic, your mod team performed the necessary due diligence to present our case with internal stakeholders. After thoughtful debates and discussions, we are truly delighted to share the exciting news that fellow mobile developers have been waiting for: the U.S. versions of the Axon Pro and the Axon 7 will have their bootloader unlocked upon request here on Z-Community!
There are two important things to note: This procedure is reserved for those with a high level of technical expertise and have had experience flashing custom ROMs. Furthermore, unlocking the bootloader will void the device warranty that comes free with each Axon purchase.
To help streamline requests, we have created Developers Lounge sub-spaces within the Axon [Series] Forum. This is the exclusive space for mobile developers to request unlocking and share tips and tricks. Just to reiterate, unlocking the bootloader will void your device warranty.
To wrap up, we want to reinforce our mission behind Z-Community - share in each other’s passion for mobile and shape the roadmap for future products. While we may not comment on each request, suggestion or recommendation, we indeed listen to what our consumers want and make decisions based on that when possible. Lastly, if you’re a mobile developer and excited about this latest announcement, we want to hear from you in the comments section below - in other words, make some NOISE!
https://community.zteusa.com/community/forums/axon/developers-lounge-axon-7
AXON 7/Pro Bootloader Unlock Request
All fields are required. Please allow up to 72 business hours (Monday-Friday) in most instances. Longer wait times while uncommon, may occur without notice.
Once verified, a follow up email will provide instructions on unlocking the bootloader.
Terms and Conditions:
CAUTION!
This is a highly technical procedure and we strongly suggest that you do not unlock the bootloader unless you have a high level of mobile development experience and you understand the risks involved. Before you proceed, please note that unlocking the bootloader of any ZTE device will VOID ITS WARRANTY effective immediately. Please DO NOT attempt to unlock the bootloader unless you are confident that you fully understand the risks involved which may include physically damaging the device, rendering it inoperable, altering its behavior, or otherwise creating undesirable results. If you decide to move forward with unlocking the bootloader and click the Next button below, you do so with the understanding of its consequences, including the IMMEDIATE VOIDING of your device WARRANTY.
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They require you to fill out the above form. So they def know your warranty is void.
Good news! Voiding warranty over a bootloader unlock does not make sense.
Great news ! Some points to clear out but overall happy to see things moving.
Loss of warranty is pretty standard, only a few company allow the bootloader to be unlocked while keeping the warranty (OP and Oppo, i don't know of any other).
US market only at the moment. Not to happy about that as i live in Europe, if nothing is made, it will kill the european market for ZTE. I personally will keep my preorder up but if there isn't any news about the european version, i certainly will not keep the device at the end of the month of free return...
Still overall a good news, to rejoice about !
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Great news ! Some points to clear out but overall happy to see things moving.
Loss of warranty is pretty standard, only a few company allow the bootloader to be unlocked while keeping the warranty (OP and Oppo, i don't know of any other).
US market only at the moment. Not to happy about that as i live in Europe, if nothing is made, it will kill the european market for ZTE. I personally will keep my preorder up but if there isn't any news about the european version, i certainly will not keep the device at the end of the month of free return...
Still overall a good news, to rejoice about !
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Oneplus, oppo, i think huawei, google nexus, htc all allow BL unlock without voiding warranty. And many brands say they void the warranty but as long as you return it to stock prior to sending it in your usually okay unless its samsung. the way zte is doing it is its void as soon as you ask to do it which isnt really right if theres a hardware defect not due to unlocking like say your charging port dying.
I won't copy my entire response to Peter's blog post over here, but I'll copy this:
I can honestly say this negatively impacts the chances that I'll keep the phone past the 30 days B&H will give me to return it. I will wait for an XDA dev to work their magic and possibly provide TWRP and root without a BL unlock (as in the case of the Intel-based ASUS Zenfone 2), but I'm not holding my breath.
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This is a half-ass solution. Voided warranties from bootloader unlocks are incredibly 2010. There's no reason why, if Google, OnePlus, HTC, Motorola, and Huawei all offer bootloader unlocks without voiding warranties, that ZTE can't. We still need to complain. It's a great start, but this isn't enough.
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This is a half-ass solution. It's a great start, but this isn't enough.
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Exactly!
WHERE IS OUR FREE PONY???
I am still thinking of canceling pre order. I feel like voiding the warranty is little demanding and could limit it's adoption in developer community. Honestly without strong XDA developer support I'll go to a op3, n6 or HTC. I want custom ROMs (sultan being my favorite). I want xposed and freedom of choice for the hardware. This is step in right direction but it still concerns me that it's a half hearted gesture.
ZTE could really use this as a opportunity to burst into the market much like OPO by embracing developers openly. It definitely has helped OPO.
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Exactly!
WHERE IS OUR FREE PONY???
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This is like getting a free pony, but them taking away the stable you originally bought for it, so it's just going to die.
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I won't copy my entire response to Peter's blog post over here, but I'll copy this:
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Berzerker7 said:
This is like getting a free pony, but them taking away the stable you originally bought for it, so it's just going to die.
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Not to mention you have to ask for permission to use said pony via ZTE USA forum. Not sure how thatll work. I think want to keep a database of those who have roots there phones as you have fill out a form with name, IMEI and such. Seems excessive.
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Sup RCZrider its starkiller base from zte :highfive:
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Haha. I like it when folks use the same handle on multiple forums. Makes it easier to keep up
Unlocking the bootloader versus taking a risk on their lack of quality control.... I guess that is all I need to say, I won't be purchasing an Axon 7!
Well I have the Axon 7 and I think it is a great phone has very good specs. and I haven't had any problems with it which I guess I have to consider myself lucky based on others having issues. But I have requested the bootloader unlock because I like to use custom roms on my phones. I am also concerned about the warranty being voided if you unlock the bootloader since there could be hardware issues occur having nothing to do with unlocking the bootloader. Which I expressed this on ZTEUSA forum hopefully they will change this to cover hardware issues, and if you read the comments from others there they also agree with what I have said so lets hope ZTE does to.
Problem solved!
This is great news. I was really torn between the OP3 and Axon 7. Now it's no contest. The next time I'm in the market for a phone, I'll see if ZTE's changed their policy. The hardware is still compelling.
Hola
A follow up question to those in the know, is it at all possible to get root on a official unlocked bootloader request, and then be able to somehow replicate the root process on locked devices? The idea or hope is that with an unlocked bootloader, there are some methods that our super devs can invoke to get root on even locked phones.
While I honestly knew that ZTE would provide unlocking bootloader (due to very vocal XDA / geeky folks) I also saw the voiding of the warranty part... it's only logical for a mid-sized OEM to take the sort of easy way out. ZTE is not developer friendly (from recent history).
While I may be ok with stock MiFlavor UI, root is more important for me as it can for the most part allow me to customize the areas that I want. Plus you'll never get very stable and fully functional AOSP based ROMs without full sources from the OEM... the audio, fingerprint, camera sub-systems are very likely closed sourced.
So, you have a broken speaker or bad battery by any chance, you are SOL'ed if you unlocked.... No thanks!
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Not to mention you have to ask for permission to use said pony via ZTE USA forum. Not sure how thatll work. I think want to keep a database of those who have roots there phones as you have fill out a form with name, IMEI and such. Seems excessive.
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I'll wait for someone to post their unlocking tools on the forums so I can unlock my phone without ZTE knowing.
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So, you have a broken speaker or bad battery by any chance, you are SOL'ed if you unlocked.... No thanks!
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Pretty much. And while there isn't really that much evidence to suggest the Axon 7 is plagued with manufacturing defects, there are enough issues reported on the ZTE forum that I wouldn't want to risk unlocking the bootloader within the return period (although I ordered from B&H and I doubt they would notice or care if it was unlocked).
My gray is still on preorder, scheduled to ship next Monday or Tuesday (for delivery on the 17th, I believe). I'll give it the full 30 days - so middle of September - for an enterprising dev to discover a way to flash recovery and gain root without unlocking the bootloader. If they can't, and even if there's nothing wrong with the phone itself (except the unimpressive camera), back to B&H it goes. I'm not especially impressed by the OP3, but the 2016 Nexus devices should be available for preorder in late September and shipping in October, so I may go that route as long as Google doesn't do something stupid with their pricing. And if not the Marlin, then the Zenfone 3 Deluxe bears some consideration if it's not stupidly priced.
Sorry, ZTE, you had your chance and blew it. I really wanted you to succeed, too
WTH you get a bootloader unlock like you wanted but now you're pissed on the voided warranty!?!?!
Its called protection form the morons that bork their phones out of the gate which happens on a regular basis. WHY SHOULD THEY PAY FOR SOME ONES STUPIDITY?
I also like how the people that root think they are special snow flakes and will make or break a company if their demands aren't met. This community ( custom users) is only a small part of the total number of devices sold and is only a blip on the financial map of a company...LOL