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Are we going to root the Android 2.2?
We could use some of that Flash!
Release on Android Developer!
I know someone who has it rooted already, but on a droid. I dont know what exploits will work for the version for the eris, as it will be different. The droid 2.2 (and root)hasnt been released sure to a google sign in issue, making the phone useless with no contacts or activation.
anyway, yes it will be rooted.
All in due time kids, the SDK was literally released about 12 hours ago. It would be silly to expect a workable rooted 2.2 rom.
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All in due time kids, the SDK was literally released about 12 hours ago. It would be silly to expect a workable rooted 2.2 rom.
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That would be complete Kaos to release a 2.2 rom in 12 hours
1) Eris wont support flash, its arm6 and at this time the flash libraries are arm7.
2) We won't have it officially on the Eris, there wont be any rooting it. It will have to be ported or compiled for th eris, and installed on a pre rooted phone.
3) There is not any one who "rooted" this on the droid, all droid installed are after market or developer installs, and are installed on prerooted phones.
You sure Eris won't get 2.2? That makes me sad... Looks like I might end up rooting my phone so I can get it.
Damn......I was looking forward to getting the 2.2 update for my Eris!
Wait a minute....I am not rooted.....so does that mean I will get it or update my phone?
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Damn......I was looking forward to getting the 2.2 update for my Eris!
Wait a minute....I am not rooted.....so does that mean I will get it or update my phone?
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2.2 wont be sent to our phones. we wont even get the update, rooted or not. the only way to get it is to root your phone and put on the ported rom.
Why won't the Eris get the update? I get sick of hearing that companies decide to leave like 3 phones off the list and update everything else.
What does the new update entail anyway? Is that the "froyo" update people keep mentioning on blogs and news pages?
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Why won't the Eris get the update? I get sick of hearing that companies decide to leave like 3 phones off the list and update everything else.
What does the new update entail anyway? Is that the "froyo" update people keep mentioning on blogs and news pages?
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Its business. Why keep updating an out of production product? When if they stop, many users will buy a newer product.
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Its business. Why keep updating an out of production product? When if they stop, many users will buy a newer product.
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I didn't realize the Eris was out of production. I only got my Eris in January.
That would explain it though. Not that I'm going to switch, you guys have any recommendations on another android phone? I heard people are loving the Nexus One.
I got my eris in january as well.. I am going to ride it out, until I get the new every 2 upgrade discount or whatever... Im running 2.1v3 now, and have nothing but time to wait until it's rooted, or not, doesn't really matter lmao.. A newer, more powerful phone will more than likely be free in a year and a half anyways... So i'm good. I wouldn't go spend money on another phone right now, unless you are just that much of a tech junkie lmao
Idk if I can root my phone.
I have some f*cked up version on mine that came though Insurion and I don't know what to do with it. It works fine but I would like root for 2.1 OTA running 1.49 HBOOT. (Ya, I know, it's weird huh.)
There is a lot more to be excited about 2.2 than flash
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There is a lot more to be excited about 2.2 than flash
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this man, he speaks the truth.
such a shame
how verizon has treated eris owners. it is capable of far more than what verizon released it with. if they would have maxed it out and marketed it, it would probably be one of the top cell phone sellers. and verizon should continue to support this device considering of when they took it out of the stores was recently. they should be required to support it for 2 years after it was pulled for the customers who purchased it at the last minute so they will be taken care of through their 2 year contract. dont have us sign 2year contracts if your not gonna support the product for the period of our contract.
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I didn't realize the Eris was out of production. I only got my Eris in January.
That would explain it though. Not that I'm going to switch, you guys have any recommendations on another android phone? I heard people are loving the Nexus One.
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Me neither!
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1) Eris wont support flash, its arm6 and at this time the flash libraries are arm7.
2) We won't have it officially on the Eris, there wont be any rooting it. It will have to be ported or compiled for th eris, and installed on a pre rooted phone.
3) There is not any one who "rooted" this on the droid, all droid installed are after market or developer installs, and are installed on prerooted phones.
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Is the IRC chat down?
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how verizon has treated eris owners. it is capable of far more than what verizon released it with. if they would have maxed it out and marketed it, it would probably be one of the top cell phone sellers. and verizon should continue to support this device considering of when they took it out of the stores was recently. they should be required to support it for 2 years after it was pulled for the customers who purchased it at the last minute so they will be taken care of through their 2 year contract. dont have us sign 2year contracts if your not gonna support the product for the period of our contract.
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1. If you don't mind me asking how exactly did Verizon treat Eris owners so poorly?
2. Just because Verizon has stopped selling the Eris does not mean they wont continue to support peoples hardware issues.
3. They don't owe you anything, lots of people buy cell phones when they are end of life. All those smart phones & feature phones that you see as "free" or less than $100 are more than likely EOL.
I'm wondering, once Google releases the source code for 2.2 and we get some roms cooking, will they be on the new boot loader so us people with 1.49 S-ON or one of the unrootable leaks can root to a new rom?
I read on Engadget that the Droid Eris will not be getting the 2.2 Froyo update. Anybody else hear this? It's a shame, considering it seems that 2.2 runs great on my Eris. I'm sure we will see a little spike in these forums with "zomg how do haxxor Eris I wnt Froyo plz halp". What does everybody think of this news from Verizon? Smart move, or mistake?
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This has been known for some time now. The Eris has been discontinued and therefore Verizon, has no obligation to remain updating our devices. I feel it is a mistake, judging from all of the Eris users, but what're ya gonna do? Haha
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This has been known forever, they just finally told us outright.
Though it's a shame that Verizon will not be giving the eris any more updates it's understandable. You can see in our roms that our phones don't benefit greatly from Froyo. There's a light increase in speed and stability but our phones just weren't meant to deal with these things. Putting newer software on an older device isn't always going to lead to speed increases.
Basically, it sucks, but it makes sense.
after rooting i don't need verizon to push froyo. plenty of froyo roms to choose from here.
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after rooting i don't need verizon to push froyo. plenty of froyo roms to choose from here.
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Very true. And the froyo rom choices we have here probably run better that what verizon would have pushed out.
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Very true. And the froyo rom choices we have here probably run better that what verizon would have pushed out.
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every custom rom (2.1 or 2.2) from XDA are 100000% better than the crap Verizon put out. No comparison.
I'm happy with my phone rooted running Tazz 6.0 vanilla.
It only makes sense because the phone is discontinued, other than that its stupid cause the phone still has not been out for a long enough time to not receive updates seeing how most that bought the phone has not had it long enough to upgrade
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It makes little difference to me what Verizon does. I'll have my Eris till I'm due for an upgrade or it dies or gets lost. When my 2 years are up, I'll shop all the major service providers for the best deal.
Corporations have no customer loyalty, and I have no brand loyalty. Our objectives are the same; nothing personal, its about the bottom line.
Besides, Xda's dev and tech support is better service than I've ever gotten from a cell phone provider. Donate what you can when you can.
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It makes little difference to me what Verizon does. I'll have my Eris till I'm due for an upgrade or it dies or gets lost. When my 2 years are up, I'll shop all the major service providers for the best deal.
Corporations have no customer loyalty, and I have no brand loyalty. Our objectives are the same; nothing personal, its about the bottom line.
Besides, Xda's dev and tech support is better service than I've ever gotten from a cell phone provider. Donate what you can when you can.
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Verizon does have good coverage at least.
amfetamine said:
It makes little difference to me what Verizon does. I'll have my Eris till I'm due for an upgrade or it dies or gets lost. When my 2 years are up, I'll shop all the major service providers for the best deal.
Corporations have no customer loyalty, and I have no brand loyalty. Our objectives are the same; nothing personal, its about the bottom line.
Besides, Xda's dev and tech support is better service than I've ever gotten from a cell phone provider. Donate what you can when you can.
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Ill have to fully agree with that.. My phone has been a lot better off with the creation coming from the dev's here.. and as soon as im able to upgrade ill be doing the same and as soon as i recieve that phone ill be rooting and flashing custom roms
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Verizon does have good coverage at least.
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True on a national scale. I happen to live in an area where the big four all have good coverage.
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SicNside said:
Ill have to fully agree with that.. My phone has been a lot better off with the creation coming from the dev's here.. and as soon as im able to upgrade ill be doing the same and as soon as i recieve that phone ill be rooting and flashing custom roms
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Absolutely. And Also, more choices and if you're not satisfied with one rom, you can try another till you find the best match for you.
Also, bug reports are acknowledged and addressed as soon as possible. While Verizon tends to publicly deny or ignore or shift blame until months later they might release a patch.
We really have a good thing going here with some great devs. And you can learn alot too and do your own tinkering if you want to.
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Also, bug reports are acknowledged and addressed as soon as possible. While Verizon tends to publicly deny or ignore or shift blame until months later they might release a patch.
We really have a good thing going here with some great devs. And you can learn alot too and do your own tinkering if you want to.
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Very true
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I AGREE.
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every custom rom (2.1 or 2.2) from XDA are 100000% better than the crap Verizon put out. No comparison.
I'm happy with my phone rooted running Tazz 6.0 vanilla.
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I believe it is a mistake since Eris users are still under contract and cannot afford to buy a new phone outright. The service that Verizon has given the Eris has really disgruntled me with them to the point that I am actually considering switching networks over this. I just bought my Eris in March and 6 months into the contract (and 5 Replacements later) the phone is not even supported anymore. So I have a year left before my upgrade date to think about how much Verizon screwed us. I understand they don't sell the phone anymore, but they still have plenty of customers under contract. It is obvious that once they make the initial sale, they no longer care about us until it is time for contract renewal.
That's why I got away from Verizon when my contract ran out. They aren't very customer focused imo. I use a Verizon MVNO, and I have a tiny data budget each month, but it really doesn't matter much as I use WIFI most of the time (home and work). It's much cheaper too, and I still get to use Verizon's network.
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every custom rom (2.1 or 2.2) from XDA are 100000% better than the crap Verizon put out. No comparison.
I'm happy with my phone rooted running Tazz 6.0 vanilla.
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My wife has the Droid incredible and she has the 2.2 update applied to it. Let me be the first to say its no different than 2.1. I've played around with it a fair amount and side by side other than being inherently faster due to the 1.0 ghz its no diff than the stock Eris as far as functionality goes. Our froyo roms that are developed are by far better imo than the stock update
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I believe it is a mistake since Eris users are still under contract and cannot afford to buy a new phone outright. The service that Verizon has given the Eris has really disgruntled me with them to the point that I am actually considering switching networks over this. I just bought my Eris in March and 6 months into the contract (and 5 Replacements later) the phone is not even supported anymore. So I have a year left before my upgrade date to think about how much Verizon screwed us. I understand they don't sell the phone anymore, but they still have plenty of customers under contract. It is obvious that once they make the initial sale, they no longer care about us until it is time for contract renewal.
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You're a bit confused. Verizon has gone beyond what I ever expected when it comes to Eris support. Verizon gave us that most recent July Update with a new radio and bug fix.
What people fail to understand is that froyo on our phone is pretty much wasted on us.
ex: Our phones jump from 250 to 450 (app.) quadrant scores. Our phones get an added 2mflops ~~. That's the jump from 2.1 to 2.2.
That's a tiny jump, not even 2x the quadrant score, and a measly 2mflops.
Look at the incredible, it jumps from mflops of 5.2 to 28. The change is much more significant and clear.
In summation, Verizon spending time and money on updates for our phone would be useless since our phones hardware is so underwhelming.
[soapbox]The news doesn't surprise or upset me. I wish it weren't so, but only because having an official Eris Sense Froyo ROM as a base could only improve Froyo (plus bring Froyo+Sense) ROMs on the Eris. I would guess this is the major reason most people on here don't like that we're not getting the updates.
With the custom ROMs we have already, the Eris is such a great phone, and it wouldn't be much if any return on investment for HTC/Verizon to bother with Froyo on this retired phone. Acting the devil's advocate, what's good for Verizon is good for us (in general, not necessarily always). If they don't spend resources and money on "x", then they don't have to raise our rates or cut other services to help fund some expenditures. It wouldn't happen immediately but it's inevitable that it would eventually. The longer they can put it off, the better for us.
After all, do any of us who run custom ROMs on our Eris think that our phone sucks? If you do, you either are using the wrong ROM or are unrealistic in your expectations.
Sorry for the rant!!![/soapbox]
I think the Eris running KaosFroyo is awesome but that's not going to stop me from jumping over to Sprint for an EVO. The fact that verizon has outright stated that they will be offering tiered Data (with good reason, they're collapsing in the face of the smartphone revolution) in addition to a not insignificant price difference combined with their lack of customer focus adds up to an account loss.
I love the verizon network, but when you can hack a PRL that roams onto it and can do so voice and data for free? Even the network loses a mark. One thing I am doing for sure though when I jump ship is I am going to offer my twice used (I bought it used) eris right here to a developer for cheap before I take it to ebay. As my last act of support for the community.
Hi, probably stupid question, I think it is samsung but I am asking to be sure...
who to blame for the delay on updating our phones to the newest android os (sam or tmobile)?
it is a shame u buy a really expensive phone for it to some months later get totally forgotten by "original" brand developers...
Obviously T-Mobile. Samsung released two versions of GB for the international Galaxy now yet apparently T-Mobile is playing a money gamble here that would cost her some bad reputation and very pissed customers in the long run.
It's already happening.
oh I see, thats why I ask...
fu$% yeah, I am from Chile and here you can't really trust service providers... that is one of the reasons, besides price, I bought a US version of this phone. This is a little frustating and even there are cool developers I doubt in the short run I will be able to change my phone every 5 months to meet the alternative developers situations...
anyways, I think I will reconsider getting t mobile the next time...
None of the US Galaxy S variants received GB yet, tmobile was first to give us Froyo so its the best you'll get out of the pack
I didn't know that!... still think that doesn't make it better though....
less crappy option still crap i think...
anyways, I am not changing my vibrant anytime soon so hopefuly they are working on it
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Obviously T-Mobile. Samsung released two versions of GB for the international Galaxy now yet apparently T-Mobile is playing a money gamble here that would cost her some bad reputation and very pissed customers in the long run.
It's already happening.
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I'm not completely sure. The first 2.2 release on Kies felt like a beta to me. Samsung definitely hadn't provided a completely polished build up to that point. (End of January? Or was it February?) Is it really all T-Mobile's fault?
Also, if it was really being held by the carrier, why didn't Samsung at least throw us a bone and release the kernel source last Fall?
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I'm not completely sure. The first 2.2 release on Kies felt like a beta to me. Samsung definitely hadn't provided a completely polished build up to that point. (End of January? Or was it February?) Is it really all T-Mobile's fault?
Also, if it was really being held by the carrier, why didn't Samsung at least throw us a bone and release the kernel source last Fall?
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where's the money in that?
well hopefully the sg2 wont fall due to that same problem i hope
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I'm not completely sure. The first 2.2 release on Kies felt like a beta to me. Samsung definitely hadn't provided a completely polished build up to that point. (End of January? Or was it February?) Is it really all T-Mobile's fault?
Also, if it was really being held by the carrier, why didn't Samsung at least throw us a bone and release the kernel source last Fall?
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Samsung can't release anything not approved by the carriers. It had tried to push us an update and T-Mo had gotten pissy because they didn't want to use KiesMini. I rem that they yanked it so fast that most ppl didn't even notice Samsung had anything up in the first place.
When it gave us FroYo, I think that was a bit of an act of rebellion because with the #neveragain campaign picking up steam like it was doing, the late updates was blackening Samsung's already tarnished rep. It was a bit like an f-off to T-Mo USA because they've been trying to push an update since last yr if IIRC.
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Samsung can't release anything not approved by the carriers. It had tried to push us an update and T-Mo had gotten pissy because they didn't want to use KiesMini. I rem that they yanked it so fast that most ppl didn't even notice Samsung had anything up in the first place.
When it gave us FroYo, I think that was a bit of an act of rebellion because with the #neveragain campaign picking up steam like it was doing, the late updates was blackening Samsung's already tarnished rep. It was a bit like an f-off to T-Mo USA because they've been trying to push an update since last yr if IIRC.
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That's part of my point though. The update they did release seemed pretty half-baked, didn't it? That makes it seem like Samsung wasn't just waiting on T-Mobile after all, but instead were scrambling to update the phone in response to the negative PR.
I definitely agree that carriers are generally the problem...I'm just not 100% sure in this case. Definitely never buying a Samsung again unless there's a contractual obligation guaranteeing reasonably on-time updates.
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That's part of my point though. The update they did release seemed pretty half-baked, didn't it? That makes it seem like Samsung wasn't just waiting on T-Mobile after all, but instead were scrambling to update the phone in response to the negative PR.
I definitely agree that carriers are generally the problem...I'm just not 100% sure in this case. Definitely never buying a Samsung again unless there's a contractual obligation guaranteeing reasonably on-time updates.
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Its all about the carriers cuss look at the i9000 they get tons of updates but they factory unlocked, thats why, they dont have to be waiting for any carrier to aprove updates...
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Come ladies and gentlemen, place your bets!
i think so lots of websites have scans of an internal memo stating the update as the 30th. if not the 30th then the 7th since thats when free hotspot promo ends and they said a software update would disable this.
No
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Verizon does like to do things on Thursdays, so we shall see.
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i agree verizon loves releaseing things on thursdays
Considering that there have been few rumblings (other than some well placed informants), I'd have to say probably not a full blown release, but maybe the start of soak testing.
I'm not holding my breath
Who really cares anyways?
If you are on this forum, chances are you are already running some type of GB on your phone and it is probably better than any "stock" release whether that is tomorrow or a month from now.
the GB roms run great (im on theory)....but come on man...its not going to be as stable as a final GB + Sense build...there are many proprietary files that are not complete with the test build...i cant see why the new official build wont increase are GB rom experience
What will happen to if you have a rooted phone. Will the update break the root?
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What will happen to if you have a rooted phone. Will the update break the root?
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Just wait for one of the devs to make a rooted version of the release and then flash the zip to your phone. Simple as pie.
you shouldnt update if you are rooted. wait for a rooted stock firmware.
I highly doubt it since there's been little or no talk at all about it. I was wondering since I just snatched one off of CL for super cheap. guess I'll go root instead.
I'd like to point out that it was all of 3 weeks ago they leaked something that looked like a reliable RUU called MR2 that was beyond question Froyo. Is it just me, or am I the ONLY one that took one look at that fake looking photo and said to myself "Dear God, the only thing that would look more fake would be a duck bill on a cactus." Can you imagine what the order for such a thing would sound like? "Hey, Johnny! We need and INTERNAL MEMO drawn up. Make sure to put our logo in the LEFT corner where NOBODY would ever put a logo on official stationary, be sure to add a picture of the device incase NOBODY has ever seen our first LTE phone, and definitely add specific OTA release numbers AND the radio version that will include so that our boys down in technical support will grow big rubbery ones as they dangle the information out there at hords of pimple-faced geeks calling with 'problems' but are really just hoping for the next big scoop for Androidforums.com" If Gingerbread come out in an official OTA today, I will eat my Thunderbolt and post the video on Youtube. I promise. In fact, if it comes out in the next 90 days, I'll eat the phone.
Aaaaaaand.....NOPE.
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Aaaaaaand.....NOPE.
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saw that coming.
btw, some people are getting a little upset over this whole topic. it'll get here one day (hopefully), just chill out
I don't even care about gingerbread. I just want the bugs fixed.
No I called Verizon's tech and he told me that there is no update coming out
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I'm here to collect my $100 from each dum-dum who believed it was coming out today, thank you.
It's released
Gingerbread for the Thunderbolt is released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140967
Using ICS on my Cappy right now and it would be a shame to not have this for the note.
Is it scheduled or just rumored?
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Using ICS on my Cappy right now and it would be a shame to not have this for the note.
Is it scheduled or just rumored?
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Scheduled. But no specific release date. People have been saying March / April.
The Note should definitely be getting ICS.
Okay cool thanks guys!
I believe Samsung said in Q1, and a rumor just surfaced that it would be March 1.
Murphy is a cousin of mine so i say AT&T will update to ICS 2-4 months after Int'l ppl get it from Samsung.
i <3 you Murph!!
That's the worst part of this. My Cappy has been amazing with ICS. I'm almost tempted to keep it until the Note get ICS also.
Too bad the hardware is different for the ATT note (from International version), we don't have LTE in Seattle, but I dislike the physical button on the IV.
Oh well, here's hoping ATT doesn't run the same route as the Captivate (Froyo forever sucked, then Gingerbread last week or so! It was great to have ports of gingerbread well before ATT)
OP, if ics came to the g-note a week after tomorrow it wouldn't be soon enough.
The captivate is freaking unbelievable running it. I to am enjoying it ...almost... enough to put off buying a new one. The cappy is a completely new phone...rom it on the g-note and it will -scream .... on ice cream. (sorry I couldn't help that last part)
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OP, if ics came to the g-note a week after tomorrow it wouldn't be soon enough.
The captivate is freaking unbelievable running it. I to am enjoying it ...almost... enough to put off buying a new one. The cappy is a completely new phone...rom it on the g-note and it will -scream .... on ice cream. (sorry I couldn't help that last part)
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The problem is that the hardware is holding it back.
And now that we'll have Notes, we can use ICS to it's full potential
Any new news?
Has anyone heard anything else about this. I check the ota update on my note regularly, but haven't seen anything yet
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Has anyone heard anything else about this. I check the ota update on my note regularly, but haven't seen anything yet
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We may learn something at the Samsung event on March 15th... or maybe not.
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Has anyone heard anything else about this. I check the ota update on my note regularly, but haven't seen anything yet
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You're better off searching online for stuff about release dates than keeping on checking the ota update on your phone. Google tells all. We will learn about a release date online well before it being available through your ota.
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ICS on AT&T Note is unlikely in first half of 2012. End of 2012, maybe. 2013? More likely.
It probably will not be ota.... There will probably be bootloaders if the notes ever get ics.
With my history on updates for at&t devices....if it EVER comes, count yourself
lucky. AT&T, except for the iPhones, delays, delays, delays updates.
I've had two non branded phones, and always get updates MONTHS before at&t updates.
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ICS on AT&T Note is unlikely in first half of 2012. End of 2012, maybe. 2013? More likely.
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Source? If that's just a guess, please say so.
After dealing with samsungs BS with the Vibrant, I don't believe a single word, promise, hint, or hope that they announce until I see ICS on my device. I love Samsungs hardware, but I have lost faith in the company itself long ago when dealing with my vibrant and our 10% out of the box fail rate with Sync Master monitors.
On a plus side, my vibrant runs ICS beautifully so I'm sure it will be even better on the Note once a few good ROMS are released and the bugs are worked out.
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Source? If that's just a guess, please say so.
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It's called common sense if you ever dealed with Samsung devices on AT&T in the past. Anything else is just naive thinking, or fantacy.
For the record, AT&T (not Samsung) is the one determines when an update will be available. And AT&T almost never give out release dates. In rare cases it did so (Captivate and Infuse GB updates are said to be available in fall 2011), they screwed it (both release in 2012).
So, any posting about release schudle is pure guess.
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It probably will not be ota.... There will probably be bootloaders if the notes ever get ics.
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+1. If it comes in OTA, wait a few days. OTA update with bootloader change almost always bricks a few phones everytime Samsung tries it. Most recent is the GS2 Skyrocket 2.3.6 OTA last month.
We have to go through the phases of an over due update. We havn't even seen the numerous "i know someone who can say with certainty that..." or "my brothers cousins sisters poodles hairdresser brother works on the dev teams and said..." or my personal favorite "i know someone inside the company who says". Then there is the phase of dispair where people say they will never buy sammy again and will be selling this POS and so on. Check out the captivate and vibrant forums and you'll see lots. In the vibrants case, it was Samsungs fault for dragging their feet, not T-Mo as they hadnt received the software to bloatware onto when waiting for Froyo! Sit and wait and watch current ROM scene if you really want ICS.
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In the vibrants case, it was Samsungs fault for dragging their feet, not T-Mo as they hadnt received the software to bloatware onto when waiting for Froyo!
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That's the common mis-conception. Carrier bloatware is baked into the ROM by Samsung per carrier request.
Here is how a firmware update process goes:
1. The carrier in question must feel the need for an firmware update. It's a big deal because it has to allocate resources for extensive testing, training of CSR and actual releasing.
2. The carrier makes a request for new firmware to Samsung.
3. Samsung builds the new firmware based on carrier's request and send to carrier for testing.
4. The carrier test extensively of the new build. If there are significant problems found, it goes back to step 3.
5. After extensive testing, carrier OKs the new firmware but need to pick a release date. Most importantly it has make sure it won't jeopardize the sales of new phones.
6. Once received OK from carrier, Samsung can put out the new firmware.
I'm not sure we are even past step 1 yet.