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So my 2yr is reached on june. I got a pre-order for with bestbuy at the moment.
I still have my new every two gimmick from verizon. Will the discount be huge? I don't often wait til the end of the two mark before i get a new phone because i am allowed to upgrade prior to that.
Assuming the tbolt is still $250 instead of $300, I got the $50 giftcard that I paid for when I pre-ordered, I wonder how it compares with verizon pricing.
Obviously i should be asking myself if 3 months is worth the money saved. but I don't know all the variables.
1. will the availability of the tbolt be plentiful by june? i was told that the evo was hard to come by after the pre-orders came out.
2. how much would or might i be saving if i chose to wait 3 months. there was something about no rebates no more with verizon so that is nice.
3. i got an eris with gb on it, so will i be missing that much besides the fire power in tech.
4. and whatever i may have missed
so if you guys can help me out with some actual intelligent answers, that would be awesome. thanks.
The new every two occurs every 20 months (basically 4 months before your contract end date). Once you're in this window, you pay the contract price of the phone. Which in the case of the TB, you'll pay $249. If you have a preorder giftcard for $50, you can put that towards the $249.
However, if you're a primary line owner, either a single line or primary line of a family plan, you'll get another $50 off the $249. This last $50 discount has been terminated by Verizon, but existing contracts are grandfathered in for one last time.
So, if you fit all of these then this is what you'll have:
+ $249.00 TB
- 50.00 giftcard preorder
- 50.00 single or primary line discount at 20 months upgrade
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$149.00 plus tax
As a side note, the primary line of a family plan gets a new every two every year, but not the extra $50. Basically, the primary line gets the contract price every 12 months ($249)
I wonder if I will be able to upgrade early.
I don't get my new every 2 upgrade for another 6 months according to the VZW website, however they offered me the immediate iPhone upgrade. I hope I (primary line) would be able to get a TB as well.
FP5241 said:
I wonder if I will be able to upgrade early.
I don't get my new every 2 upgrade for another 6 months according to the VZW website, however they offered me the immediate iPhone upgrade. I hope I (primary line) would be able to get a TB as well.
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The website, I'm pretty sure, doesn't show you your primary line 12 month annual upgrade. Its there tho... every 12 months the primary line, on a multi-line plan, can upgrade at contract price.
kenyu73 said:
The new every two occurs every 20 months (basically 4 months before your contract end date). Once you're in this window, you pay the contract price of the phone. Which in the case of the TB, you'll pay $249. If you have a preorder giftcard for $50, you can put that towards the $249.
However, if you're a primary line owner, either a single line or primary line of a family plan, you'll get another $50 off the $249. This last $50 discount has been terminated by Verizon, but existing contracts are grandfathered in for one last time.
So, if you fit all of these then this is what you'll have:
+ $249.00 TB
- 50.00 giftcard preorder
- 50.00 single or primary line discount at 20 months upgrade
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$149.00 plus tax
As a side note, the primary line of a family plan gets a new every two every year, but not the extra $50. Basically, the primary line gets the contract price every 12 months ($249)
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I thought I read somewhere that they're (Verizon) doing away with the 12 month upgrade option for the primary line now too.
From what I understand, even primary line holders will have to wait 20 months to upgrade at the contract price. That is of course people who signed up for a new contract after (I think) February 10th.
I could be wrong (and I hope I am), but that's what I read.
Whetzel said:
I thought I read somewhere that they're (Verizon) doing away with the 12 month upgrade option for the primary line now too.
From what I understand, even primary line holders will have to wait 20 months to upgrade at the contract price. That is of course people who signed up for a new contract after (I think) February 10th.
I could be wrong (and I hope I am), but that's what I read.
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All the old policies are in effect for contracts done before this new change (Feb, January, whenever) so I think this person is good to go.
I know the extra $50 for the primary line was canned. It could be that the 1 year renew was too, but most people should be able it hit that benefit up one last time if it is true.
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As a side note, the primary line of a family plan gets a new every two every year, but not the extra $50. Basically, the primary line gets the contract price every 12 months ($249)
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Is this still the case? I would like to know if the primary line of a multi-line family plan is eligible to upgrade at contract price every 12 months. I was planning to get a 1 year contract on my primary line but will scrap this idea if the primary line is already eligible for upgrade every 12 months.
Thank You!
(what is the benefit of 1yr vs 2yr contract for the primary line of a family plan?)
kenyu73 said:
The new every two occurs every 20 months (basically 4 months before your contract end date). Once you're in this window, you pay the contract price of the phone. Which in the case of the TB, you'll pay $249. If you have a preorder giftcard for $50, you can put that towards the $249.
However, if you're a primary line owner, either a single line or primary line of a family plan, you'll get another $50 off the $249. This last $50 discount has been terminated by Verizon, but existing contracts are grandfathered in for one last time.
So, if you fit all of these then this is what you'll have:
+ $249.00 TB
- 50.00 giftcard preorder
- 50.00 single or primary line discount at 20 months upgrade
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$149.00 plus tax
As a side note, the primary line of a family plan gets a new every two every year, but not the extra $50. Basically, the primary line gets the contract price every 12 months ($249)
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bestbuy does not discount the extra $50 for new every 2 since thats a vzw promotion... if you want the extra 50 off you will need to purchase from verizon... but if I can get the extra 50 off from vzw without waiting I'm going to use the 50 gift card to buy a case and screen protector and stuff... also if the bestbuy free buyback is still in effect when the phone is released I'll go to bestbuy so I get some return in investment when I go to get a new phone
I just chatted with Verizon Customer Support and inquired about the 12 month upgrade timeframe for the primary line of a multi-line contract.
This is still in effect and holds true. So much for needing to sign a 1 yr contract on that line
UPDATE: the info regarding 12 month updates for the primary line is false. I spoke with another CSR and this was dropped along with the NE2.
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UPDATE: the info regarding 12 month updates for the primary line is false. I spoke with another CSR and this was dropped along with the NE2.
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Bummer! Coolest thing I didn't know that doesn't matter anymore?
I am the primary line of a family plan. I didn't realize the "new every two" was affected by being a primary or secondary on a family plan.
This is what it says on my verizon account.
"You Are Eligible For An Upgrade on: 6/26/11 Your contract end date is 10/26/11"
So it seems like the most I can get from the Verizon "New every Two" in June when I am eligible. I assume that the discount is in affect at that time, but as of now Verizon says I can upgrade but without the benefits of "New every Two".
At first I thought I may get $100 off verizon phones if I wait til June. Now it seems it is $50.
For BestBuy, the only benefit is getting the phone early because I had to Pay for the $50 giftcard, so the phone will still cost me $250 + california tax. I never heard of Bestbuy giving me a discount because of whatever is going on with me and verizon.
Is what I just said accurate? If so I might as well get the tbolt from verizon if it is only $50 saved if I wait til june. If it is $100 saved, I might just wait.
Also nobody mentioned if the availability of this phone will be like the evo aka small production count so I may not even get the phone in june because they have to go into production for it once again.
Adding more info:
I was going through the motions of upgrading my plan and verizon shows me that I have an online discount of $50 for old phones such as droid x and blackberry bold. The fascinate has no discount except the re-certified one. So the "new every two" means nothing if i am aiming to get the tbolt?
two_cents said:
bestbuy does not discount the extra $50 for new every 2 since thats a vzw promotion... if you want the extra 50 off you will need to purchase from verizon...
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Two Verizon reps told me that Best Buy can give me the $50 New Every Two discount. Of course, they could be wrong, as sales and customer service reps frequently are, but when they told me this, I documented who told me this and when. If they were wrong, Verizon will typically credit my account. They have always been very good about this kind of thing for me as I am a long term customer.
Philosophre said:
I am the primary line of a family plan. I didn't realize the "new every two" was affected by being a primary or secondary on a family plan.
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NE2 has always only been available for the primary line on a Family plan or the only line on a single line. Never for additional lines on the same Family plan.
You're right, basically. What you have to realize is, first, VZW has discontinued the NE2 program and the early upgrade (a.k.a. annual upgrade) starting with new plans. But if you have already earned the NE2 and the early upgrade based on your old plan, you are still entitled to use them for one last time. In your case, not until after your NE2 date shown on the website, in June of 2011, can you use the NE2. The "early upgrade" at "2yr new contract" subsidized prices can be used if you want to upgrade prior to your NE2 date.
After you enter into your next contract, both the early upgrade and the NE2, you will not have next time. They are the ones that have been discontinued on new plans.
As for Best Buy... the only thing your gift cert does for you is, well, it's a gift cert. Not really TBolt specific anyhow. Just a come-on to get you into the store and get a $50 sale out of you. You can use it for the TBolt, or something else. Doesn't matter.
The potentially really good thing about Best Buy is their "Buy-Back" program. It usually costs $60 for mobile phones to get this buy-back protection. But, until the 26th of Feb it is free. So... if the TBolt comes out by the 26th you can enroll in this buy-back program for free (i.e. sell them the phone back at 50 percent of full retail in 6 months (approx $375 - depending on BB's full retail price), 40 percent in 12 months, and keeps going down the longer you keep it. This buy-back is based on full retail, even if you pay substantially less due to contract incentives (i.e. $249 with a 2yr contract).
This Best Buy buy-back program is much like Verizon's "old" early upgrade program, which will be defunct with your new plan.
'Course, it's now looking like the release won't make it by the 26th, so maybe this is a moot point. If it does make it by the 26th, Best Buy is definitely where I'm gonna get mine.
-Frank
Ugh. I just called and if I wait til june which would be my 2yr mark I would only be receiving a $30 discount.
Looks like I'll be grabbing the phone from Bestbuy asap unless the delay is reasonably near june.
Philosophre said:
This is what it says on my verizon account.
"You Are Eligible For An Upgrade on: 6/26/11 Your contract end date is 10/26/11"
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Philosophre said:
Ugh. I just called and if I wait til june which would be my 2yr mark I would only be receiving a $30 discount.
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Yeah, ever since they reduced the NE2 benefit from $100 to the lower amounts ($50 and/or $30 - depending on plan cost) the NE2 is hardly worth waiting more than a couple of weeks for.
Also, according to the above, 6/26/11 is your New Every 2 date - not your "2 yr point". NE2 comes after 20 months rather than 24 months.
-Frank
yea, i misspoke. the october would be my 2yr mark.
i better enjoy my eris now before the time to change comes.
frank s said:
If it does make it by the 26th, Best Buy is definitely where I'm gonna get mine.
-Frank
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even if its released after the 26th I'm sure I can make them throw it in cause I preordered the phone a month ago... or I can just walk across the street and get the extra 50 from my new every 2 at verizon
two_cents said:
even if its released after the 26th I'm sure I can make them throw it in cause I preordered the phone a month ago... or I can just walk across the street and get the extra 50 from my new every 2 at verizon
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I disused this free buy-back and pre-order thing specifically with my local Best Buy. They told me, for sure, that pre-orders do not count for this free buy-back promotion. They told me that you had to actually purchase the device before it would count. Otherwise, I too would have pre-ordered just to get the free buy-back deal.
-Frank
Sprint Promotion: Renew Your Contract And Get Credit For A Free Month Of Service
While we're on the subject of why Sprint is the carrier to go with nowadays ($50 contract extension credit "just because," unlimited data without expensive and complicated tiers **cough Verizon cough**, great customer service, etc.), I wanted to throw yet another reason for existing Sprint customers to stick around.
Side-by-side with the $50 credit promo that I mentioned above, it turns out that the company is running a different deal in parallel that pays you for a month of free service right back to your account upon contract renewal for 2 more years. It does not affect your phone upgrade eligibility at all and is a very effective retention tool, so you can ask for it now, even if your contract still hasn't expired, get the contract renewed, then grab a new phone later). This promotion works only for primary lines, so if you're part of a family plan, only the main phone number can benefit (in contrast, the $50 credit works for any line).
Tipped by Jason in the $50 credit post, I called up Sprint to renew the contract on one of my lines and asked them about the free month instead of the $50. The CSR knew exactly what I was asking about, though she wasn't sure just how long this deal is available for.
If you're near or past your contract expiration, give Sprint a call (*2 from your handset or 1-888-211-4727 from any phone) and ask about this promotion - it can save you quite a bit of cashish.
Note: The credit applies only to the basic cost of your plan and doesn't include any fees or add-ons. For example, my $129.99 family plan ends up costing me about $170 after all add-ons. For me, only $129.99 would be refunded.
Let us know how much you end up saving and good luck!
Source: AndroidPolice.com
Very True
rockypr said:
Sprint Promotion: Renew Your Contract And Get Credit For A Free Month Of Service
While we're on the subject of why Sprint is the carrier to go with nowadays ($50 contract extension credit "just because," unlimited data without expensive and complicated tiers **cough Verizon cough**, great customer service, etc.), I wanted to throw yet another reason for existing Sprint customers to stick around.
Side-by-side with the $50 credit promo that I mentioned above, it turns out that the company is running a different deal in parallel that pays you for a month of free service right back to your account upon contract renewal for 2 more years. It does not affect your phone upgrade eligibility at all and is a very effective retention tool, so you can ask for it now, even if your contract still hasn't expired, get the contract renewed, then grab a new phone later). This promotion works only for primary lines, so if you're part of a family plan, only the main phone number can benefit (in contrast, the $50 credit works for any line).
Tipped by Jason in the $50 credit post, I called up Sprint to renew the contract on one of my lines and asked them about the free month instead of the $50. The CSR knew exactly what I was asking about, though she wasn't sure just how long this deal is available for.
If you're near or past your contract expiration, give Sprint a call (*2 from your handset or 1-888-211-4727 from any phone) and ask about this promotion - it can save you quite a bit of cashish.
Note: The credit applies only to the basic cost of your plan and doesn't include any fees or add-ons. For example, my $129.99 family plan ends up costing me about $170 after all add-ons. For me, only $129.99 would be refunded.
Let us know how much you end up saving and good luck!
Source: AndroidPolice.com
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This is true and I can add that the Sprint memo stated they were targeting customers who are within 1 to 2 months of there contract/eligibility. Then they could take advantage of their upgrade once it's reached.
Great post and good move from Sprint
thanks for posting this info
Anyone that renew their contracts on launch date and got the 75$ credit can check if we are able to get this too?
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At one point they were giving $70/line, which would add up to more than the free month thing.
Nope didn't work for me. I just called sprint and they told me they had never heard of the deal/promotion. I even called back to talk to a different rep and he said the same. Then I asked for a supervisor and he said the same. So this is the info I received. Gonna try back tomorrow and see if it works??
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Ok... i verfied that myselft and there are not free service for a month... but the good news are that i end up getting a 70 credit for renewing(AGAIN LOL).
June 21, when i ordered my phone, i came online i asked them for the renewal service credit, and they gave me 70$ dollars credit.
Then today i asked them about credits for renewing, etc, and asked them if i qualify, and they told me that i dont qualify becuase i already renew(they should said that i didnt qualify becuase they already give me the credit on June 21), and then becuase i didnt qualify i asked them about the 30 days return or cancel, and then she said she was going to talk with Supervisor for the credit and Bingo, got a 70$ credit! LOL
07/10/2011 11:19:37AM
"Sprint":: "I have checked that you had upgrade line #**** on June 21, 2011."
07/10/2011 11:20:12AM
"Sprint":: "Since your contract has already been renewed due to phone upgrade on June 21, 2011 , our automated system doesn't allow us to club two promotions at a time."
07/10/2011 11:20:56AM
ME:: "yeah, but i have like 30 days to cancel or return or not?"
07/10/2011 11:22:42AM
"Sprint":: "Yes , you have 30-Day Satisfaction period."
07/10/2011 11:22:44AM
"Sprint":: "Let me discuss with my supervisor for the credit ."
07/10/2011 11:24:32AM
ME:: "ok"
07/10/2011 11:25:10AM
"Sprint":: "Thank you for your patience, I will have that information shortly."
07/10/2011 11:27:49AM
"Sprint":: "I have discussed with my supervisor and convinced him to apply the credit. Looking at your long standing association with Sprint, I am applying the credit of $70.00 on your account ."
07/10/2011 11:28:06AM
"Sprint":: "Is that fine ?"
07/10/2011 11:28:16AM
ME:: "yes thank you"
07/10/2011 11:28:40AM
"Sprint":: "Please allow me a few moments to make the changes for you."
07/10/2011 11:30:26AM
"Sprint":: "I have applied the credit of $70.00 on your account and the updated balance due on your account is $***.**."
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Since I can't find an appropriate forum (ie, is there a Sprint forum on here?), I want to see if anyone here knows.
I think I already know the answer, just want confirmation...Sprint is changing their billing for CORPORATE discounts on family plans, this month. I have a family plan with an "EMPLOYEE" discount. I assume these are two entirely different entities and the change will not apply to the latter?
http://phandroid.com/2012/01/24/hav...nt-applied-get-out-of-your-contract-etf-free/
EDIT: found this on Sprint's site, and it says nothing about the type of discount...will definitely be giving them a call.
Discount Policy Change Notice
Effective your February bill cycle, Family and Business Share monthly plan charges will be billed differently. Discounts will only apply to the monthly recurring charge of the primary line. Line 2 will be billed at the applicable Add-a-Phone rate and will not be discount eligible.
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I don't think this applies to employee accounts.
By employee discount do you mean like if I work for Avaya I can apply a discount of 25% to my family plan? If your answer is yes, then this effects you.
Borrowed:
"Log in to your account & check this month's invoice.
This notice appears bottom of your on-line invoice under the link:
Important Information Relating To Your Sprint Bill
Discount Policy Change Notice
Effective your February bill cycle, Family and Business Share monthly plan charges will be billed differently.
Discounts will only apply to the monthly recurring charge of the primary line.
Line 2 will be billed at the applicable Add-a-Phone rate and will not be discount eligible.
Basically - Math:
Currently:
L1 + L2 = $129.99 - 27% discount (plug yours here) = $94.89
Going Forward:
L1 = $110.00 - 27% discount = $80.30
L2 = $19.99 - 0 discounts = $19.99 (same as L3-L5)
========================= $100.29 - YOUR RATES WENT UP!!!
call now: *2 Cancel or 1-800-927-2199 which handles customers receiving corporate discounts on their accounts."
If you were getting discount before you're going to be getting about a $5 increase in your monthly bill. This was how I got out of my contract and moved to T-Mobile. For the technical details, RulingCzar outlines it quite well. Also look HERE for more details.
Do NOT PM me about this. Just call and say something like, "This is material change against the contract I originally agreed with, therefore I'd like to get out of my contract ETF-free."
Be nice and friendly with them, they're people too.
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If you were getting discount before you're going to be getting about a $5 increase in your monthly bill. This was how I got out of my contract and moved to T-Mobile. For the technical details, RulingCzar outlines it quite well. Also look HERE for more details.
Do NOT PM me about this. Just call and say something like, "This is material change against the contract I originally agreed with, therefore I'd like to get out of my contract ETF-free."
Be nice and friendly with them, they're people too.
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lmao, you know where I borrowed it from Gotta love Slickdeals
RulingCzar said:
By employee discount do you mean like if I work for Avaya I can apply a discount of 25% to my family plan? If your answer is yes, then this effects you.
Borrowed:
"Log in to your account & check this month's invoice.
This notice appears bottom of your on-line invoice under the link:
Important Information Relating To Your Sprint Bill
Discount Policy Change Notice
Effective your February bill cycle, Family and Business Share monthly plan charges will be billed differently.
Discounts will only apply to the monthly recurring charge of the primary line.
Line 2 will be billed at the applicable Add-a-Phone rate and will not be discount eligible.
Basically - Math:
Currently:
L1 + L2 = $129.99 - 27% discount (plug yours here) = $94.89
Going Forward:
L1 = $110.00 - 27% discount = $80.30
L2 = $19.99 - 0 discounts = $19.99 (same as L3-L5)
========================= $100.29 - YOUR RATES WENT UP!!!
call now: *2 Cancel or 1-800-927-2199 which handles customers receiving corporate discounts on their accounts."
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By "employee account" I think he is referring to the SERO type plans.
BTW, same RC as the one from nxsecure?
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Has anyone switched to the new Framily plans? It seems like a decent value, but I'd like to hear from someone that has seen the expected bill.
The wife and I have a plan a few years old - 1500 min + unlimited mobile calling + unlimited text and data. We do have a discount on the account (for several years now), but the discount is only applied to the primary line ($110 * 20% = 22 credit) and not the Add-a-line. After taxes, fees and insurance our bill is about $170 a month.
The Framily plans information indicates $70 per line (for two phones + unlimited data). I am wondering if their accounting scheme would remain the same, so that they only apply the discount to the primary line (thus a $10 credit) rather than to both.
I rather expect that those who switch to the new plan scheme will not be able to view the new accounting changes until after Feb 10th, but I thought I would float this thread until someone with info pops up.
Or if there is a secret Sprint insider that could fill us in, that would be good too.
Also, I'm curious about the new annual upgrade scheme, but I don't think that enough information is out there.
Thanks for the feedback peeps.
Update: I saw that some are posting their Framily codes on other threads. This seems like it can only help you, especially if you are a two-person bill, like myself. There is a place on Sprint's Framily website to check the discount rate of the Framily ID.
If you are willing to share your Framily ID, I encourage you to post it below, along with the number of people currently in your group.
Update 2: I got responses from @sprintCare regarding NVP discounts and the Framily plans, confirming what AFSOC_Commando said: NVP discounts only apply to the data plan on a Framily account.
I also confirmed that only 1 NVP discount per account, and they are treating the Framily ID as the account. Therefore if my wife and I are on one bill, I get the discount, she does not. Take this into consideration when it comes to upgrade time.
So You're at $140.00 before taxes and fees? Aren't you paying 129.00 before taxes and fees now?
Dredz said:
So You're at $140.00 before taxes and fees? Aren't you paying 129.00 before taxes and fees now?
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I neglected to specify the things that would not change if I altered my plan [TEP+Repair] nor did I include the $10 per line premium data fee. I don't think it can hurt to post this image, but maybe it will help someone else to choose an optimum plan. By treating secondary [tertiary] lines as add-ons Sprint justifies not applying the corporate discount.
Before taxes I'd say I'm about $150 including insurance.
On the Framily plans I estimate that I would end up paying maybe $2 more a month
Personally, based on what I see, I don't see an advantage changing your plan unless you're forced to. I have a very similar plan except I don't opt-in for the TEP/repair cost. And not to hijack your thread, but when was the last time you actually used the TEP/repair service? You'll save about $260+ ever year, that's like a new phone in savings. And if your phone happens to break (not obvious abuse e.g. cracked screen) Sprint would replace it for $50 without insurance. (I did this with my wife's phone when her S3 was acting up). Anywho, I think it's great that you bring this up as I'm in the same situation and my upgrade is coming up next month so I might want to change plans if their is an advantage (which I can't readily see). I'll keep an eye on this thread
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puhiniho said:
Personally, based on what I see, I don't see an advantage changing your plan unless you're forced to. I have a very similar plan except I don't opt-in for the TEP/repair cost. And not to hijack your thread, but when was the last time you actually used the TEP/repair service? You'll save about $260+ ever year, that's like a new phone in savings. And if your phone happens to break (not obvious abuse e.g. cracked screen) Sprint would replace it for $50 without insurance. (I did this with my wife's phone when her S3 was acting up). Anywho, I think it's great that you bring this up as I'm in the same situation and my upgrade is coming up next month so I might want to change plans if their is an advantage (which I can't readily see). I'll keep an eye on this thread
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Oh, hijack all you want. I've replaced my EVO LTE twice, the EVO 4G once, the Touch Pro was replaced with the TouchPro2 - which was cool at the time - and that was shortly after I enrolled in TEP. My wife has replaced her EVO LTE once, and maybe her EVO before that. So we've gotten a value out of it, but I know that they are soaking us, it's really ridiculous.
I don't think that there is much chance of us Framily saving us much money, but I think I would like to be locked in to the annual upgrade perk before they do away with it again.
I called today about the Framily plan as I'm out of contract right now. I was under the impression that the framily plan acted just like the web-site seems to lay it out...55 for me, 50 for the next person, 45 for third....so on and so on. It sounded pretty good since, once you're enrolled, you get a group id that you can give to people and when they sign up, they join your group.
So, here's what I actually found out when I called *2 and talked to a rep...
First off, there's no contracts, so you can have people join and leave at any time. However, when someone joins, it can take up to 2 months for the billing to be adjusted to show your "multiple people group savings". So basically, if two people join in January (they should be at $50/mth) but you might not see the savings until March. When person 3 joins in March, you might not see the additional savings until May/June. If one person drops, everyone's bill will increase to account for that loss of a person on the plan.
It's an additional $20/line for unlimited data.
Only people NOT currently in Sprint can join. When I brought up that the website says there's options to allow others in Sprint to join, the rep said that there have to be certain circumstances, which after going round and round, basically mean that whoever joins your group needs to be out of contract. If they're not, they'll have to pay an additional fee (a pro-rated fee??) based on the cost of their device.
There's no phones or upgrades or discounts or anything else when you go to the framily plans. If you want a new phone, you have to pay full retail price for it or you can do a 24 monthly payment for said new phone. Also, when you want to purchase a new phone, there's a deposit that must be paid in addition to the 24 monthly payments, which include monthly tax on the full cost of the device. I asked for an example, supposing I wanted the new S5 when/if it ever comes out at a price of $500. So my monthly bill would be 55/mth service (1 person) + 20/unlim data + 25 (500 phone charge + 45 in taxes divided by 24 months) plus an UndeterminedDeposit for switching to a new phone and a 15 upgrade fee. If you leave the framily plan, you owe a fully payment for rest of retail cost of phone.
Personally, it's not worth it for me. I want a new phone, and I have the two year discount to use. If I were to switch to the framily plan, I'd lose that discount, and most of the people I know that would join are in areas where sprint is piss-poor, or they're jumping ship for Tmobile. The rep I was talking to said that I could probably use my two year discount for a new phone THEN switch over to the framily plan. Trouble with that is that if after two years I'm still on it, and want to change phones, it'll be a heavy cost.
BTW - I was on the 450min+unlimited everything else plan which doesn't exist any more. So the rep moved me to the Unlimited minutes + Unlimited4LifeData for $80/mth (change to my bill was .01¢ increase). Didn't extend, didn't change contract, etc...just gave me unlimited minutes for a penny more per month.
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I called today about the Framily plan as I'm out of contract right now. I was under the impression that the framily plan acted just like the web-site seems to lay it out...55 for me, 50 for the next person, 45 for third....so on and so on. It sounded pretty good since, once you're enrolled, you get a group id that you can give to people and when they sign up, they join your group.
So, here's what I actually found out when I called *2 and talked to a rep...
First off, there's no contracts, so you can have people join and leave at any time. However, when someone joins, it can take up to 2 months for the billing to be adjusted to show your "multiple people group savings". So basically, if two people join in January (they should be at $50/mth) but you might not see the savings until March. When person 3 joins in March, you might not see the additional savings until May/June. If one person drops, everyone's bill will increase to account for that loss of a person on the plan.
It's an additional $20/line for unlimited data.
Only people NOT currently in Sprint can join. When I brought up that the website says there's options to allow others in Sprint to join, the rep said that there have to be certain circumstances, which after going round and round, basically mean that whoever joins your group needs to be out of contract. If they're not, they'll have to pay an additional fee (a pro-rated fee??) based on the cost of their device.
There's no phones or upgrades or discounts or anything else when you go to the framily plans. If you want a new phone, you have to pay full retail price for it or you can do a 24 monthly payment for said new phone. Also, when you want to purchase a new phone, there's a deposit that must be paid in addition to the 24 monthly payments, which include monthly tax on the full cost of the device. I asked for an example, supposing I wanted the new S5 when/if it ever comes out at a price of $500. So my monthly bill would be 55/mth service (1 person) + 20/unlim data + 25 (500 phone charge + 45 in taxes divided by 24 months) plus an UndeterminedDeposit for switching to a new phone and a 15 upgrade fee. If you leave the framily plan, you owe a fully payment for rest of retail cost of phone.
Personally, it's not worth it for me. I want a new phone, and I have the two year discount to use. If I were to switch to the framily plan, I'd lose that discount, and most of the people I know that would join are in areas where sprint is piss-poor, or they're jumping ship for Tmobile. The rep I was talking to said that I could probably use my two year discount for a new phone THEN switch over to the framily plan. Trouble with that is that if after two years I'm still on it, and want to change phones, it'll be a heavy cost.
BTW - I was on the 450min+unlimited everything else plan which doesn't exist any more. So the rep moved me to the Unlimited minutes + Unlimited4LifeData for $80/mth (change to my bill was .01¢ increase). Didn't extend, didn't change contract, etc...just gave me unlimited minutes for a penny more per month.
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Careful with this part. If I read it right, if you do that (get a new phone using your upgrade, which would put you into a 2yr contract), and THEN switch, I think they will charge you an additional 15/mo since you are on contract, for a max of 12 months, additional 180$ (15$ *12mo)
sindawe said:
I called today about the Framily plan as I'm out of contract right now. I was under the impression that the framily plan acted just like the web-site seems to lay it out...55 for me, 50 for the next person, 45 for third....so on and so on. It sounded pretty good since, once you're enrolled, you get a group id that you can give to people and when they sign up, they join your group.
So, here's what I actually found out when I called *2 and talked to a rep...
First off, there's no contracts, so you can have people join and leave at any time. However, when someone joins, it can take up to 2 months for the billing to be adjusted to show your "multiple people group savings". So basically, if two people join in January (they should be at $50/mth) but you might not see the savings until March. When person 3 joins in March, you might not see the additional savings until May/June. If one person drops, everyone's bill will increase to account for that loss of a person on the plan.
It's an additional $20/line for unlimited data.
Only people NOT currently in Sprint can join. When I brought up that the website says there's options to allow others in Sprint to join, the rep said that there have to be certain circumstances, which after going round and round, basically mean that whoever joins your group needs to be out of contract. If they're not, they'll have to pay an additional fee (a pro-rated fee??) based on the cost of their device.
There's no phones or upgrades or discounts or anything else when you go to the framily plans. If you want a new phone, you have to pay full retail price for it or you can do a 24 monthly payment for said new phone. Also, when you want to purchase a new phone, there's a deposit that must be paid in addition to the 24 monthly payments, which include monthly tax on the full cost of the device. I asked for an example, supposing I wanted the new S5 when/if it ever comes out at a price of $500. So my monthly bill would be 55/mth service (1 person) + 20/unlim data + 25 (500 phone charge + 45 in taxes divided by 24 months) plus an UndeterminedDeposit for switching to a new phone and a 15 upgrade fee. If you leave the framily plan, you owe a fully payment for rest of retail cost of phone.
Personally, it's not worth it for me. I want a new phone, and I have the two year discount to use. If I were to switch to the framily plan, I'd lose that discount, and most of the people I know that would join are in areas where sprint is piss-poor, or they're jumping ship for Tmobile. The rep I was talking to said that I could probably use my two year discount for a new phone THEN switch over to the framily plan. Trouble with that is that if after two years I'm still on it, and want to change phones, it'll be a heavy cost.
BTW - I was on the 450min+unlimited everything else plan which doesn't exist any more. So the rep moved me to the Unlimited minutes + Unlimited4LifeData for $80/mth (change to my bill was .01¢ increase). Didn't extend, didn't change contract, etc...just gave me unlimited minutes for a penny more per month.
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Based on what you describe it seems like I'd better stay in the boat that I'm comfortable in. I didn't realize that they would no longer subsidize the cost of the phone. If the new HTC One 2014 is $650, and my wife and I both got one, then we would end up paying an additional $27/month each on top of the Framily plan. That sounds an awful lot like a $225/month arrangement, and that sucks.
Yeah so I'll keep my existing plan probably.
Thanks for the input.
I actually just went through this yesterday I upgraded to the note 3 through easy pay and was switched to the framily plan the advantage of the framily plan is dependent on how many people you have on a line it goes down 5 dollar increments every person you add starting at 55 dollars plus 10 for 3 gig of data or 20 for unlimited the lowest you can pay is 20 dollars per line plus data if you have 5 people which is a GREAT deal BUT if your like me with only 1-2 people then there is not point in changing and if you have a discount it's is now applied to the data plan rather than the whole plan so you get less taken off HOWEVER this is such a new plan there is MASS confusion among sprint everyone will tell you something different I actually upgraded with easy pay switched to framily in the store and then called customer service and switched back to my everything data 450 that I was grandfathered into since 2009 some will say you can switch it and some will say you can't depends who you talk to*
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Yeah. I agree that there's a lot of confusion about it. It does seem like it is only really worth it if you either don't want to upgrade phones with a discount OR you have a lot of ppl to join right off.
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Yeah. I agree that there's a lot of confusion about it. It does seem like it is only really worth it if you either don't want to upgrade phones with a discount OR you have a lot of ppl to join right off.
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I converted my current contract to a FRAMILY and went from $151 a month after taxes to $130 since I have 2 lines and only kept mine on unlimited data. Wife uses under 500MB a month.
I then posted my Framily code and last 4 of my number on Fatwallet, Slickdeals and Framilycodes.com and had 10 people under my account within 12 hours and now have a bill of $70 per month plus taxes.
You can locate Framily codes on Ebay and craigslist as well for free.
I am expecting most people to stay for at least 2 years due to the fact that most people will finance their new equipment for 2 years and must pay it off immediately if they cancel service. Sort of an ETF if you will. I expect more service to go this route. All your MNVO's and T-Mobile use this model of paying for your own equipment non subsidized like the rest of the globe.
If you must swap phones regularly then you could swap every 6 months if you desire and recover some of your phone value on Swappa and buy your next device. The math does come out cheaper for many people.
I got this response from @sprintCare on twitter:
If you currently receive an NVP discount of any kind, if you convert to Framily that discount only applies to data.
Previously, on one NVP discount could be applied to a shared account. Since they are now discounting only the data of the user that gets the discount I have asked if each Framily user could apply an NVP discount. When they respond I will update this thread.
Another update from @sprintCare
SPRINT FRAMILY ID F00193227hd friends and family id code save $ - $45 (ANYWHERE)
go to the sprint website
sprint.com/framily and click on framily, enter my ALL LOWER CASE
F00193227hd or call sprint for more details 1-888-211-4727
Everyone has a seperate account and get their own bill, only thing we share and enjoy is the discount.
here is my Framily ID if anyone is looking to join. We have few more spots left so just call in and give them this id. You don't need any other info just the framily id. By Friday I will have 5 lines on this plan. ALL LOWER CASE
F00193227hd
The pricing tiers are as follows
1 People in my group $55 Per month per phone
2 People in my group $50 Per month per phone
3 People in my group $45 Per month per phone
4 People in my group $40 Per month per phone
5 People in my group $35 Per month per phone
6 People in my group $30 Per month per phone
7-10 or more People in your group $25 Per month per phone
F00193227hd
you can also reach me via Google hangouts windst.88
Sprint Customer for 4+ years
Framily ID# L00291411xv
My number : 925-354-4555
Name: Frank
Will be trying to save 4 spots for my co workers family. Currently just me and my wife on the Framily plan. Get your spot now.
Hey! My sprint framily code is L00099258oy Use this code to reduce your monthly bill!! There are 8 spots opened
Framily
I tried yesterday and only had the Framily ID. This was via chat and they wanted the primarys phone number to attempt and give me a quote. Please contact me if you would like an extra draw on your framily and I will try again.
My framily ID is n00678551Wc. I have 2 lines now, and my in-laws are supposed to go next week. Also, I am posting in other forums, hopefully we can save some money and be down to 25/month within a few days!
4 lines, need at least 3 more for $25 month
4 lines, need at least 3 more for $25 month
Framily plan id E00767761Gk (those are zeros and lower case k) Last 4 numbers of phone number is 7088. Have four lines on it, just signed up today. 6 lines left, let me know if you sign up so I can update it here. Thanks!
Sprint plan ID
I currently have 6 spots open on my Framily Plan
plan ID# I00765014kQ
the first letter is a capital "I" last 2 are lower case k and capital Q. The rest are numbers.
Update: as of earlier today Best Buy was out of Silver and you could only order the Black one if you had a Best Buy location within 250 miles of a zip code you entered so that you could physically pick the phone up. i.e. They weren't offering shipping them any longer.
Speculation: Best Buy is dumping their remaining inventory of all regular Pixels (they only carry the 32GB models) and they they already sold all the ones in their warehouses.
Thanks to @xdabbeb for making me aware of this.
I bought two.
You may have to retry website buttons multiple times to get the deal to work if their website is still being slammed. Also even when it says sold out on Slickdeals, you can still order it. This morning when I ordered mine, the get by date was Dec 6th for silver and 7th for black.
In my case I also had to order one at a time and the second one I had to use incognito mode in Chrome even though I upgraded a different line on the same Verizon account and both times I logged into the same Best Buy account.
I attribute all site weirdness to the Black Friday internet traffic.
$9.99 /mo. for 24 months
without having to pay the full monthly price and waiting for credit. Less than $240 total.
https://slickdeals.net/f/9417827-be...-32gb-memory-cell-phone-9-99-mo-for-24-months
@45Wheelgun I saw your post in the other thread but this deal is so good I wanted to make sure it wasn't buried.
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Thanks to @xdabbeb for making me aware of this.
@45Wheelgun I saw your post in the other thread but this deal is so good I wanted to make sure it wasn't buried.
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Kevin - could you contact me via PM or email? I had a couple of questions I wanted to ask you concerning this deal. We are both in Columbus and I would value your insight.
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In addition to this already great deal - for Cyber Monday (Sunday?) BB is now offering a $100 BB Gift Card on top of the $240 Price. Making your total cost $140 Make me wish I had waited.
45Wheelgun said:
In addition to this already great deal - for Cyber Monday (Sunday?) BB is now offering a $100 BB Gift Card on top of the $240 Price. Making your total cost $140 Make me wish I had waited.
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I just found that out too, wow! Me too, but oh well, one of mine has already shipped. I could cancel the other since it hasn't shipped and do the deal but there's a chance Verizon wouldn't consider me able to upgrade that line, at least for a day or so.
Can you really buy the Google Pixel, cancel with Verizon and use it with T-Mobile without having to deal with Verizon legal (early termination fees, etc) ?
Read a few comments in the thread. There are people that say "No problem", others say "Check the fine print, they will make you pay the full price".
This deal makes sense for Verizon if people open a new account/line and stay for 2 years. But in this case it is how the ol' phone subsidization model look in 2016.
I doubt that Verizon has left room to buy the phone, cancel the line and bring it to another network without charging fees and screwing your credit.
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Here you go: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/clp/ver...at748301462624.c?id=pcmcat748301462624&rdct=n
Activation/Upgrade Fees
Activation Fee: $40/line.
Upgrade Fee: $40/device.
Early Termination Fees
The early termination fee is up to $175, or up to $350 if your contract term results from your purchase of an advanced device (e.g., a smartphone).
There's no contract if you pay the phone off, it's not a two year contract, it's merely a contract to pay $9.99 a month for 24 months and once you pay it off, that's fulfilled. If you're creating a new line to get the phone, then whatever costs Verizon imposes to create the line, if any, in addition the activation fee which would happen for a new or existing line (Verizon seems to sometimes call the activation fee an upgrade fee lately) would be the only thing additional besides the tax for your overall cost.
I believe it was @45Wheelgun in the other thread who said he paid the phones off as soon as they shipped.
It *shouldn't* be any problem, but I don't believe anything until I see it for myself, and I might try it and see what happens to get a third one this time with the $100 gift card deal, but not sure yet.
FYI, my "upgrade fee" was $20 per phone, and the same "upgrade fee" was referred to as "activation fee" elsewhere, so I believe they're one in the same, although Verizon is less than transparent about this and has caused me confusion before. I'm on the most recently available Verizon Plan.
@45Wheelgun references this walkthrough for how to do it:
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=92290907&postcount=1562
His original post is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69793678&postcount=45
And "Proof", which is pretty convincing but in the end is merely "strong evidence": https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=92266531&postcount=1419
I just tried to add a line, all looked good, of course it said there would be a $20 a month smartphone access charge on the new line but once I paid the phone off I'd be able to cancel the line. However, the main Pixel page on Best Buy's site says 1) Silver isn't available at all and 2) Black "Shipping:Not Available". I went through the process as far as I could take it anyway and indeed it won't let me do the final checkout without selecting a store, but it tells me there are no stores within 250 miles to pick one up at, so it seems we're at an impasse, and basically maybe Best Buy is trying to dump what little remains of local Pixel stock, wherever they are.
Same issue here. Currently in CA visiting family but also checked my zip code in Portland, OR. No stores within 250 miles.
Also stopped by the local Best Buy and they had no Pixels in stock.
MyRCode said:
Same issue here. Currently in CA visiting family but also checked my zip code in Portland, OR. No stores within 250 miles.
Also stopped by the local Best Buy and they had no Pixels in stock.
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My friend who was the one who made me aware of both the original and the new deal said that this morning it said he could still pick one up locally but that now they're just not available. I checked a few zip codes I was familiar with as well just out of curiosity.
so If I find it in store, sign up for a new account, pay first month, pay off device, can I then use it with my T-Mobile line?
There are no early termination fees if you pick the 24 month Device Payment Plan (DPP). You will have three choices to purchase the phone:
DPP: 9.99/month 24 months
Contract: $199.99 + 24Month Verizon Service Contract
Outright purchase: $650
Any text you see about contracts or ETFs are in reference to the Contract option and have nothing to do with the DPP option. When you get to the purchase agreement you will see it states you are paying the "full price" of $239.76 for the phone and that is the installment agreement you are "signing". In that contract it clearly states there are no penalties for paying it off early. Only penalties it speaks of are if you DON"T pay your installments on time.
DPP is nothing but a 24 Month 0 Interest load. Think 24 months same as cash with the purchase price being $239.76 +TAX
I purchased 2 on Thursday as 2 separate transactions, one as an upgrade and the other as "add a line". Billed for Sales tax on $239.76 (~$17) As soon as they shipped on Friday I paid them off. That immediately restored my "upgrade" account and I will not need to "add a line" as the phones have been paid in full. I received an Email from Verizon notifying me that my DPP contracts were "Paid in Full" and Closed.
My phones will be delivered tomorrow. There has been no change in my plan, all discounts and extras accrued over the years as still in place. I'm unclear at this point if I will need to activate them. If so there will be a $20 activation fee. I'll know sometime tomorrow.
I went back today when I saw the additional $100 and was able to walk through the entire process as an "upgrade" so as far as my account is concerned "it never happened". I even had Verizon offer me $330+ to use it as a trade in!
I do not think you will have any problems if you just add a line but if you create a new account they may want you to either return the phone, paying the full price for it or $350 EFT.
Whatever... it would not be worth it considering the additional fees.
People were mentioning this after looking at the fine print that you agree on and talking with sale managers.
There is also a hard pull of your credit for a new customer, so I do not want to do that and end up reading in the fine print that I must stay with Verizon for 2yr in order to get the Pixel for $130.
Not sure what to do. Did somebody look at all the things that they ask you to sign or can post screenshots?
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I do not think you will have any problems if you just add a line but if you create a new account they may want you to either return the phone, paying the full price for it or $350 EFT.
Not sure what to do. Did somebody look at all the things that they ask you to sign or can post screenshots?
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Did you look at the link I gave a few posts up (first page I think) with the link to the "proof/evidence" that there will be no ETF if you pay off the phone. I believe it, for what it's worth, but can't take advantage of it any more than I already did since there are no stores within 250 miles of me to pick it up, which is the only option now. I'll add that to the OP when I can.
Yeah... I saw a bunch of posts of that guy, DEEE. He has been active on that thread for 3 days no stop. There are some funny flames He wants to be the "go-to person". He also does everything to shut up who contradicts him. Either he needs some attentions or somebody must pay him to be there and do the promotion.
A few people keep saying "check the contract. It is just $240." but a few others found something off. Check the posts related to this one:
https://slickdeals.net/f/9417827-be...es-100-bb-e-gift-card?p=92444587#post92444587
What I got from that:
- At checkout you sign both DPP and the https://www.verizonwireless.com/legal/notices/customer-agreement/
- The DPP (that is titled "RETAIL INSTALLMENT CONTRACT") says you are subject to the Verizon agreement too. So you need to interpret them together.
- The conclusion seems to be:
1) If you leave Verizon before 14 days then you have to return the phone (or pay full amount for it)
2) If you leave after 14 days you have to pay other $350.
Verizon lawyers are not dumb.
Either somebody that studied law can interpret those contracts and tell me that everything is fine or I will stay out of this deal. It is not $240 vs $250, it is $240 vs $700.
Updated the OP: as of earlier today Best Buy was out of Silver and you could only order the Black one if you had a Best Buy location within 250 miles of a zip code you entered so that you could physically pick the phone up. i.e. They weren't offering shipping them any longer.
Speculation: Best Buy is dumping their remaining inventory of all regular Pixels (they only carry the 32GB models) and they they already sold all the ones in their warehouses.
Completely sold out of all the Best Buys in Portland, OR
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