I posted in the xda unlocking forum also but thought maybe this is a better place.
My friend is still with alltel and needs a new phone so I am wondering if my xtra Eris would somehow work for her?
Thanks in advance!
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Will it work? Absolutely Yes! Verizon has been roaming with Alltel in the areas where they do not overlap for years.
The question is will Alltel activate it. Depends on where they are with integration/replacement of the Alltel activation system(s). Carriers check ESN ranges so that only phones they sell/allow distributors to sell get on their network.
So, if your friend is in an Alltel area that is going to end up as part of Verizon Wireless I would definitely try to get the Eris activated.
My understanding is that Verizon has completed the Alltel conversion. The only Alltels that are around are now owned by AT&T, who is in the middle of converting that user base and i expect they will push Alltel customers to upgrade to AT&T Phones, Plans and services.
When Verizon was converting Alltel any Alltel customers that wanted to activate a Verizon phone HAD to switch to Verizon Plans & Services. They couldn't keep their Alltel plans & services with Verizon phones.
These remaining Alltels owned by AT&T will NOT activate a Verizon phone. That much i can tell you for sure. Your best best if your friend wants to use an Android Phone on Alltel is to buy one outright from Alltel or search eBay. If he wants to use the Droid Eris and is willing to dump Alltel i believe there are guides here in the Eris forums to make the phone work on MetroPCS or Cricket (which requires special flashing).
Good luck!
My family is still on a Alltel family plan (4 of us) and a year and a half ago I was able to stay on that plan and get a Droid Eris as long as we bought the data plan
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gersto said:
My understanding is that Verizon has completed the Alltel conversion. The only Alltels that are around are now owned by AT&T, who is in the middle of converting that user base and i expect they will push Alltel customers to upgrade to AT&T Phones, Plans and services.
When Verizon was converting Alltel any Alltel customers that wanted to activate a Verizon phone HAD to switch to Verizon Plans & Services. They couldn't keep their Alltel plans & services with Verizon phones.
These remaining Alltels owned by AT&T will NOT activate a Verizon phone. That much i can tell you for sure. Your best best if your friend wants to use an Android Phone on Alltel is to buy one outright from Alltel or search eBay. If he wants to use the Droid Eris and is willing to dump Alltel i believe there are guides here in the Eris forums to make the phone work on MetroPCS or Cricket (which requires special flashing).
Good luck!
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Sorry to burst you on this one but you are incorrect. I have had a storm 2 and now an Eris on a Verizon contract but keeping my Alltel plan pricing.
I have a LG Rhythm I gave my granddaughter but when I changed over to a verizon plan from alltel I had to get verizon phones so the Rhythm was turned off. She really liked playing with that phone. Can it be activated on verizon by doing #228 or is there another way or can't do it at all?
You are caught in limbo.
In order to activate the Rhythm you are going to have to move it to a plan that can be activated through the Alltel activation system(s). The Rhythm is recognized by the Alltel activation system(s), but is NOT recognized by the Verizon activation system(s).
I would imagine that Verizon will only allow Alltel-only phones on its network through the contract period of the phones (2 years?). Get ready for all Alltel-only phones to not be allowed by Verizon.
Actually there are three areas that are still Alltel that are still waiting to be converted to Verizon. Nebraska, Michigan, and Minnesota. These areas are where Verizon sold their market to AT&T and kept the Alltel customers and towers. Once the old Verizon customers and towers have been completely converted to AT&T in these areas, then Verizon can begin the process to convert those Alltel markets into the "new" Verizon.
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Hi guys. I've read through the threads and I've not seen anything specific to my question.
Had to buy the XV6800 for work out of my pocket. Two months later, they let me go (downsizing....yay for me). Luckily, they owned the plan, but I own the phone.
Can I load the Sprint ROM onto my phone and activate it on the Sprint network? I've been with Sprint for 10 years and they generally treat me good. The tech support guy in the store said 'theoretically, yes, if you load the Sprint ROM it should work, but I don't know if they'll activate it or not and we can't support it." He did say that Sprint was trying to be more open in their network.
Any takers to this one? Otherwise, I'm going to have to Ebay this phone, and I really hate doing that. It's been a decent phone. Putting it on Sprint would be nice.
Thanks!
EDIT: I'm asking this because I've seen people mention that they are stuck on Sprint's towers when they upgrade the XV6800 with one of the custom ROMs. It seems possible then to talk Sprint into activating it. But what would I need? MSL, etc?
If it doesnt say "SPRINT" on the phone sprint wont activate it.
This has been discussed several times at PPCGeeks, and from what I've read, it's a lot easier to take a Mogul from Sprint and put it on VZ's network, than it is to take an XV6800 from VZ and put it on Sprint's network. that is, as long as you talk to the right VZ tech. i believe that the techs at VZ have a lot easier time entering new ESN's into their database than do techs at Sprint, and the ones at VZ are a lot more willing to do this. sorry.
but my guess is that after Verizon opens up their network to foreign CDMA ESN's (in june/july-ish i believe) that Sprint would more than likely start putting in more ESN's to grab your business. otherwise, it'd be fighting up a slippery slope if any phone on sprint could be used willingly on verizon.
as for your problem, i really don't know how exactly, but if you do under the grace of god manage to have sprint enter the ESN in, i believe it only takes a few EPST setting changes and a customization to work.
You can but......
Well yes here is an idea for you, but keep in mind that doing it is technically NOT legal to do, for reasons we will not go into. If you have a phone that is on Sprint that is EVDO then you could put the ESN and MIN in the 6800. I am not suggesting that you do this at all, but it would work. Other than legallity issues, and that you could never turn on the power to that other phone or else it would trip fraud detection software and cause a re-generate of the A-Key in the system killing your 6800, so I say just don't do it, but it would work.
i bought an HTC PPC6800 Mogul (on ebay) for the alltel network any ideas, for a noob, on how to make this work with sprint?
i bought an HTC PPC6800 Mogul (on ebay) for the alltel network any ideas, for a noob, on how to make this work with sprint?
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Why would you buy an alltel phone off ebay if you want to use Sprint's network?
i bought the alltel version because i saved 400 bucks doing that, also the same phone is available for both providers so technically there shouldnt be any problems using one or the other right? i am stuck with sprint so must use them for now
Yes there is one big problem. You can't use an Alltel ESN on the Sprint network unless you somehow manage to get Sprint to add it to their database.
so i am stuck with a phone for alltel that i will not get to use with sprint, ever?
Pretty much...unless you can SOMEHOW convince a dumbass sprint rep to add it for you (pretty much never happens)...or you clone a Sprint ESN which is illegal.
Sprint to Alltel
I flashed a Sprint Touch(6900) with the official Alltel rom and Alltel added with no problems and everything on the phone worked great. I would think you can just flash a sprint carrier rom, now whether Sprint will add an Alltel ESN on your account I do not know....
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alltell doesnt care as long as its a phone that they sell ... sprint cares... now for the ESN thing as long as its not a ESN in use by a other phone in therory it isnt cloning its just barrowing... say my old phone broke and i used its ESN this is all theory though good luck
seems i got sprint to add the phone i flashed from alltel to sprint, yea. NOW i would like to supercid it any ideas?
My apologies if this has been covered....I searched a bit but didn't find the answer.
My friend has a Mogul he got from sprint. He'd like to sell it to me for $75.
I wonder. If I use DCD kitchen, load the verizon radio, DCD ROM, then the verizon Carrier cab......would it work?
Thanks,
Matt
sudermatt said:
My apologies if this has been covered....I searched a bit but didn't find the answer.
My friend has a Mogul he got from sprint. He'd like to sell it to me for $75.
I wonder. If I use DCD kitchen, load the verizon radio, DCD ROM, then the verizon Carrier cab......would it work?
Thanks,
Matt
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I don't believe so. The radio in the sprint phone is GSM and the radio in the Verizon phone is CDMA.
Edit: I am incorrect. Sprint is CDMA and Verizon is CDMA... so I'm guessing that it could be possible. I have yet to test this though.
The answer is yes and no.
Yes, it is the exact same hardware, and therefore you can flash a custom rom/radio and install the verizon carrier cab leaving you with an xv6800 with a mogul casing.
The only issue is getting Verizon to activate it on their network, as it has a Sprint ESN. In the past, they were very strict about not allowing any non-Verizon ESN's in their database, though I've heard RUMORS that they've eased up a bit on it due to their "Open Network" campaign.
Honestly, it's a crapshoot, but if you can get Verizon Support to activate it, then it would work perfectly.
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The answer is yes and no.
Yes, it is the exact same hardware, and therefore you can flash a custom rom/radio and install the verizon carrier cab leaving you with an xv6800 with a mogul casing.
The only issue is getting Verizon to activate it on their network, as it has a Sprint ESN. In the past, they were very strict about not allowing any non-Verizon ESN's in their database, though I've heard RUMORS that they've eased up a bit on it due to their "Open Network" campaign.
Honestly, it's a crapshoot, but if you can get Verizon Support to activate it, then it would work perfectly.
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I heard somewhere that verizon has a new policy to support any phone on their network, but they also call their data plan with a 5GB cap the "UNLIMITED" plan. Go figure.
Hopefully when Sprint comes out with the Diamond and other awesome new HTC phones about a year ahead of Verizon, we will be able to active their hardware on The Network. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Yes it can be done. i have an alltel ppc6800 on vzw. the easiest way to do it is from the vzw website esn switch or activate equipment. There are some other steps you have to take to get the software loaded, not the stock rom. Then you will have to call vzw and have them reset your DMU keys. start here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20090
or send you phone in:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24855
Oh and you'll have yo change the SPC code since it's a sprint phone. need to get that to a 000000, again the first post will help with that.
Hope this helps.
I just dropt verizon and join Sprint. Is it posible to use a Verizon touch pro
on Sprint network.
I have search but the only thing i find is Sprint Touch Pro on Verizon Network.
If that's not posible I'll take $150.00 bucks for the Verizon Touch Including case and screen protector It''s only 2 month old.
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I just dropt verizon and join Sprint. Is it posible to use a Verizon touch pro
on Sprint network.
I have search but the only thing i find is Sprint Touch Pro on Verizon Network.
If that's not posible I'll take $150.00 bucks for the Verizon Touch Including case and screen protector It''s only 2 month old.
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Nope, they have different versions of the radios (cdma v. gsm) ... just get a sprint branded Touch...
also, my girl might be interested in your Verizon pro. email me at [email protected] or 213-925-5351 so we can talk...
ummm... Yea, sprint and Verizon are both CDMA. Im currently using a Sprint radio on my verizon touch Pro. as to activating the verizon n a sprint network, I dont think it works that way.
then my bad.. so your using ur sprint branded touch on the verizon network?
Sprint and Verizon Touch Pros should both work on either network. They are both CDMA. Sprint operates on 850 and 1900mhz, Verizon runs on 800 and 1900mhz, but both carriers use these frequencies. It should be a matter of flashing your phone with a kitchen or rom and making sure that you have the appropriate carrier specific info.
With that said, since the verizon TP has about 100 megs of RAM less than the sprint TP, I would wager that you would like the Sprint TP better and have less fuss if you could sell of the Verizon TP. I don't know for sure if Sprint will let you activate a VZ phone on their network although it should work fine.
P.S. Usually the trend is to try to get a Sprint TP on running on Verizon as the Sprint hardware is nicer.
Done Rambling.
I dont know that Sprint will add the verizon TP's esn to their system. Unless there is a workaround that i dont know about.
Ill take the touch pro. I have verizon and want to upgrade to a touch pro. email me at [email protected]
i sell you a sprint tp
i can sell you a sprint tp give me 250 everything is on the box is unlock already with mighty rom 4.14 i can send you the phone activated if you have and account email me jmmp(at)ultraxtreme(dot)com
unless you really know what your doing, and don't mind really bending the law, i would say that it isn't worth it to get a Verizon TP to work on Sprint. also like said above, the Sprint TP has better hardware
Cross Carrier Activation Is Not Possible... Don't Believe The Rumors!!!
Simply put, Neither Verizon or Sprint will activate the other carrier's phones on their network. The esn numbers are not in the opposite carrier's database and neither carrier will add an esn from a device that is not branded as their own. Period end of discussion. Yes both Sprint and Verizon's phones are compatible on one anothers network, but that's not the issue. The issue is getting the carrier to activate a device from the other carrier which the WILL NOT DO.
People activate sprint touch pros on verizon all the time without a problem. heres a writeup on how to do it for verizon http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/htc-touch-pro/120970-sprint-touch-pro-verizon.html
I just bought a sprint one and I have verizon. It's not hard to use it on the other network
Word on the street is that VZW caught on to this and is no longer allowing these MEID/ESN's on their network.
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I just bought a sprint one and I have verizon. It's not hard to use it on the other network
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that was true a month ago, it is not true today.
Verizon eliminated the *228 option 3 setup that was allowing the sprint phone to be activated on VZ. If you try it now, you get an error saying to call VZ TS & if you do call they refuse the activation.
I have a Sprint TP on VZ myself but I hope it never breaks.........
~John
any workaround for this? I get my Sprint touch pro tomorrow
Sprint Touch Pro
If anyone interested in my Sprint TP email me at [email protected] and I'll cut you a sweet deal. I love it but I am with Verizon and have moved on to the BB Storm...its cool but the TP does more..
Kalvin
I'm rather lost. I was using an old Motorola E815 clamshell which finally died. I got a Razr M now. I was told it is an international phone and I thought that meant that it would work on any network, at least overseas. However I now suspect it is tied to Verizon and I am not sure if that can be over-ridden somehow. I have heard of unlocking, rooting and flashing ROM. I have been trying to find out is one or more of those processes will make this phone universal. I suspect that this phone cannot be unlocked. It is the plain vanilla version sold in the US and is not the Developer edition.
What do I want to do with it? I am not that pleased with Verizon and I'm considering Straight Talk. I'm paying about $70 per month now, getting 200 minutes talk, 2 GB of data and I have to pay $.20 additional for each text message. Straight Talk is $45 per month and is unlimited talk, text and data. It's obviously a far better deal.
Verizon says it is an international phone. It is capable of CDMA as well as several GSM bands. Can this phone be used on Straight Talk? Can it be used In foreign countries?
According to phonearena and gsmarena the answer is a convoluted yes to both.- the phone can be used overseas and on worldwide gsm networks, but only through verizon roaming. There is a version of Straight Talk that I believe uses the same towers as Verizon and the same CDMA bands... but it will take someone more knowledgable about CDMA than me to cover that one (GSM for years here). Hopefully I did help somewhat though.
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The SIM slot should be unlockable...