Alright, I searched and couldn't find any direct discussions about this - so I'm asking it here. Does using a home replacement app (i.e. Launcher Pro Plus) use a lot more battery life than just using the stock launcher? It means your phone is running an entire extra hungry app, so I assume it does. Does setting the replacement launcher as the default do anything in terms of what is running? Besides this, what can you do to minimize what extra battery drain there is?
From what I gather, a LOT of users are running some kind of home replacement, so I assume people have some good info. Thanks!
My battery life seems fine when I use ADW-EX or LPP. Customize your phone, use it like you want it then charge the hell out of it. Enjoy your phone...battery life disentangle last forever. Plus faux's kernel set on smartass is nice on any rom you use regardless if you use a home replacement launcher or not . I probably didn't answer your question...but just wanted to give some friendly advice.
Thanks for the tip! I'm actually about to finally root the phone. While I'd been using stock and happy with it, I never felt like I needed to, but now that I've found another home replacement that I love, I'm ready to jump in and start really setting her up. In just the 1 day I've been using LPP, it shows up pretty high in the battery usage, whereas that wasn't the case with the stock launcher, but it may be because I was fiddling with it all day to set it up. But I'm hoping setting CPU under/overclock will help optimize battery life. Between that and an extra battery I should be okay. I'll def check out the kernel, thx.
Do you recommend the Unlockr's method to root? Or the one in the resource thread in the development section?
The unlocker method worked super easy for me. And with your original question, set the home replacement app to default and restart your phone and use it for a few min then go to settings, undo the defaults set for it, and then click the stock launcher when you hit the home button. You'll have to wait a sec cuz it has to load up, which in my head makes it seem like it never really started running while your replacement launcher is always used/default.
Dunno if that helps, but I think it makes sense and is helpful, hence the sharing
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That's a good point! I have noticed that, and it does make sense. When switching back to stock after using the replacement for a while, you DO have to wait for it to load. Hopefully that's an indication that it's not being active in the background.
And thanks for the advice on the Unlockr, that's where I went to root my MT3G, so I'll probably use them again for this one.
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Do you recommend the Unlockr's method to root? Or the one in the resource thread in the development section?
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I'm not sure what method unlocker used but I recommend NOT using gfree just as a personal preference. Use the visionary method. It should be visionary r14 unless there's been an update.
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I'm not sure what method unlocker used but I recommend NOT using gfree just as a personal preference. Use the visionary method. It should be visionary r14 unless there's been an update.
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Thanks, yeah I got Visionary and have temp-root, just have to finish it off now for perm-root.
This is a side-question - but now that I've got temp-root, I started fiddling around with setcpu, which I got when I had my rooted MT3G, and my max is 1024 MHz. Doesn't the MT4G go higher than that? Do you know how to enable the higher MHz?
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Thanks, yeah I got Visionary and have temp-root, just have to finish it off now for perm-root.
This is a side-question - but now that I've got temp-root, I started fiddling around with setcpu, which I got when I had my rooted MT3G, and my max is 1024 MHz. Doesn't the MT4G go higher than that? Do you know how to enable the higher MHz?
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You have to have a kernel that allows it to go higher, I'm like 95% sure about that, ha (brainfart). Try Faux123's kernels, I use them and love them, but dumfuq also has a really good one.
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I can place another vote in favor of the unlocker method. Worked great and easy for me. The higher speeds do require a different kernel. Stock is only good for 1024Mhz... Faux kernels are great!
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Using a different launcher shouldn't have any drastic impact on your battery life. Maybe if you're using something like SPD Shell 3D which has lots of graphical bells and whistles, but even then I don't think it'll be noticeably bad. (Me personally, I use Go Launcher EX and love it.)
The major sources of battery consumption are GPS and heavy screen use. Leaving WiFi or bluetooth on when not in use also wastes battery because your phone will be scanning for connections. If you're in an area with weak signal, your phone will spend more energy maintaining connectivity than it would in areas with strong signal. If after all those considerations you notice abnormal battery drain, you may have an app that's misbehaving.
If you're rooted and want even more battery savings, you can flash a new kernel that allows the processor to run at lower frequencies when the phone is idle. You can also flash an undervolted kernel, meaning it will perform the same functions but use less battery to do so (not all phones can tolerate this, but I've had no problems on mine). Faux123 has great kernels posted in development.
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I'm not sure what method unlocker used but I recommend NOT using gfree just as a personal preference. Use the visionary method. It should be visionary r14 unless there's been an update.
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This needs some clarification. VISIONary is used to gain temproot and then to permroot once you've run a necessary script. In theunlockr's method, the script is the root.sh file; in the gfree method, gfree is the script. You use VISIONary for both methods (unless you have something else for the temproot and permroot). Gfree is widely considered the better of the two because it can do many more things than root.sh can.
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Hey I rooted my TBolt and I wanted to keep my batt life boosted as much as possible.
Currently I have setcpu ondemand and a profile to get the cpu at 256mhz when the screen is off.
What else can I do.
Thanks
As far as I know SetCPU isn't going to do anything for you.
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As far as I know SetCPU isn't going to do anything for you.
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Second that,i even uninstalled it.
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For under clocking? Sure it works.
ridobe said:
For under clocking? Sure it works.
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yeah It works just fine for that profile.
Download and buy Titanium Backup Pro and use the app to freeze all the bloatware you don't want running. Stuff like Peep, Blockbuster, Bitbop, CityID, etc. I haven't rooted this one yet, but my old Dinc and DPro showed significant battery life gains when I froze these bloat apps that just seem to always be running. Backup Assistant is another culprit if you aren't using it.
I actually renamed the files using Root Explorer and moved to SD and backed up on my pc, so Titanium wasn't having to intervene all the time to keep them frozen.
I would suggest running Das BAMF Rom v 1.1. Since installing it I've noticed a nice increase in battery performance as well as a snappier phone.
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Hey I rooted my TBolt and I wanted to keep my batt life boosted as much as possible.
Currently I have setcpu ondemand and a profile to get the cpu at 256mhz when the screen is off.
What else can I do.
Thanks
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I would recommend droidwall, its helped my phone out immensely. You can stop your phone from sending out data constantly. That is what I found helped me out the most.
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What else can I do.
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You can shell out the fifty bucks for the unsightly extended battery . Bout the only thing that really helps right now, lol.
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Two apps one call network This will allow to cut the 4g off and use 3g. The next app is system app remover cost around two dollars. Lets you remove any app. You should remove blockbuster first. Next get super power beta, it's free. I'm geting 20+ hours with moderate use.
spaghetti_monster said:
Hey I rooted my TBolt and I wanted to keep my batt life boosted as much as possible.
Currently I have setcpu ondemand and a profile to get the cpu at 256mhz when the screen is off.
What else can I do.
Thanks
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Install a ROM that doesn't have all that bloat on it.
I renamed all of the bloatware apps to .bak and rebooted.
My wife has been having a bunch of problems with her phone going into sleep of death or freezing so I wanted to install a custom ROM for her but she likes the usability of Touchwiz, the default messenger, and the lock screen. Are there any good ROMs that keep these features but improve performance and reliability?
BTW she is currently using entropy's dailydriver kernel and she hates MIUI.
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Unnamed ROM is the most stable ROM I've used. Its got what she wants Touchwiz, stock messenger, and lockscreen. All boat is removed though so no ATT apps. Check it out.
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Unnamed ROM is the most stable ROM I've used. Its got what she wants Touchwiz, stock messenger, and lockscreen. All boat is removed though so no ATT apps. Check it out.
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UnNamed is DEF the way to go.
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All bloat is removed though so no ATT apps.
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You can put back any of the stock apps from here.
Thanks all. I'm going to try that this weekend and hopefully she will have better luck than with stock.
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If she is running stock voltages (e.g. not undervolting) and encountering SoDs with my kernel, you may have a defective device - Try running 100% stock (stock kernel even) without using SetCPU at all. If you encounter SoDs, you have justification for a warranty exchange.
If you encounter SoDs only with my kernel and without any undervolting, I would be very interested to collect more details.
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If she is running stock voltages (e.g. not undervolting) and encountering SoDs with my kernel, you may have a defective device - Try running 100% stock (stock kernel even) without using SetCPU at all. If you encounter SoDs, you have justification for a warranty exchange.
If you encounter SoDs only with my kernel and without any undervolting, I would be very interested to collect more details.
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No undervolting, underclocking, or profiles enabled. Just your kernel and root.
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Test with stock kernel - see if it's the kernel or the device.
If the device still does it with the stock kernel, you should take it in for an exchange.
restored her stock kernel last night. So we shall see if she still has problems.
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Unnamed ROM is the most stable ROM I've used. Its got what she wants Touchwiz, stock messenger, and lockscreen. All boat is removed though so no ATT apps. Check it out.
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Agreed. I love UnNamed Rom and I am currently using Entropy's 1208 kernel and I see a HUGE difference in battery life, speed, and responsiveness (Quadrant score 2600 before and 3800 - 4000 after). Thank you to Entropy and gtg!! BTW, I for one did not like CM7, missing a bunch of features that Unnamed 1.3 has and much less hassle restoring my apps to my liking. Getting google apps back was a pain.
If I may ask a noob question: Anybody here tried UnNamed 2.0.0? How did it go so far? Is it worth going through re-configuring user settings again or better wait for ICS?
cheers to you all.
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Agreed. I love UnNamed Rom and I am currently using Entropy's 1208 kernel and I see a HUGE difference in battery life, speed, and responsiveness (Quadrant score 2600 before and 3800 - 4000 after). Thank you to Entropy and gtg!! BTW, I for one did not like CM7, missing a bunch of features that Unnamed 1.3 has and much less hassle restoring my apps to my liking. Getting google apps back was a pain.
If I may ask a noob question: Anybody here tried UnNamed 2.0.0? How did it go so far? Is it worth going through re-configuring user settings again or better wait for ICS?
cheers to you all.
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I would not wait for ics go ahead and flash 2.0 its awesome!
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Thanks! Very tempted and probably cannot resist! Any good way to get your old settings back as painless as possible? I am using titanium (carefully and selectively...) but its still a little unpredictable and cumbersome.
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Thanks! Very tempted and probably cannot resist! Any good way to get your old settings back as painless as possible? I am using titanium (carefully and selectively...) but its still a little unpredictable and cumbersome.
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If you're talking about Menu>Settings? (volume, ringtone, haptic feedback etc etc) I don't think that's possible. You can restore apps with Titanium Backup, but that's the closes you could get to getting your "old settings"...
Thanks! No, I meant stuff like your email exchange server set up, juicedefender settings, tasker etc. Also, have to go back and set up your pages with apps to your liking all over again.
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Agreed. I love UnNamed Rom and I am currently using Entropy's 1208 kernel and I see a HUGE difference in battery life, speed, and responsiveness (Quadrant score 2600 before and 3800 - 4000 after). Thank you to Entropy and gtg!! BTW, I for one did not like CM7, missing a bunch of features that Unnamed 1.3 has and much less hassle restoring my apps to my liking. Getting google apps back was a pain.
If I may ask a noob question: Anybody here tried UnNamed 2.0.0? How did it go so far? Is it worth going through re-configuring user settings again or better wait for ICS?
cheers to you all.
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I upgraded several hours ago. I did *not* wipe, so I did not have to set anything up again. So far I have found no problems of any kind, no FC's, no apps or features that refuse to work, etc. Of course, I havn't tried everything so far, but gtg did say it would probably work, he just didn't recommend it in his thread because he hadn't tested.
Brilliant! I will try the same thing and report back. BTW, love how you guys support the newcomers!
Done that. Same here, back to how it was without any problems without factory reset/wipe. Question: I don't see a change, really. Is it because I did not wipe? For example swype looks just the same as before (version 3.25.91.30637.t180). Running Quadrant its now consistently at 3900, but otherwise I don't see a change. What am I missing?
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Done that. Same here, back to how it was without any problems without factory reset/wipe. Question: I don't see a change, really. Is it because I did not wipe? For example swype looks just the same as before (version 3.25.91.30637.t180). Running Quadrant its now consistently at 3900, but otherwise I don't see a change. What am I missing?
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This is still UnNamed. Now based on 2.3.6. Some new things noticable, like overscroll glow, and screen rotation animation from ICS. Some things not obvious such as take picture during a call. List of new additions in his thread in the OP. Modifications to touchwiz to optomize smoothness - I can't really tell the difference, except now the windows won't scroll continuously, which is a negative feature as far as I am concerned. gtg said it had to be disabled to improve the smoothness.
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This is still UnNamed. Now based on 2.3.6. Some new things noticable, like overscroll glow, and screen rotation animation from ICS. Some things not obvious such as take picture during a call. List of new additions in his thread in the OP. Modifications to touchwiz to optomize smoothness - I can't really tell the difference, except now the windows won't scroll continuously, which is a negative feature as far as I am concerned. gtg said it had to be disabled to improve the smoothness.
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Just a quick follow up. Using it since yesterday without problems. Battery life (asked on some other threads) is excellent. I would guesstimate 2 - 3 %/hour batter drain on light usage (running JuiceDefender custom settings) which is pretty good. I am not sure what I should be seeing/be excited about when swiveling (sorry). All the apps that I regularly use are doing fine. Looks to me like another solid gtg product. BTW, quadrant hovers around 3600. I am not overclocking, defeats the purpuse of battery saving for me. cheers.
Seconded on Unnamed ROM. Though, the CRT off animation for me is flipped in 2.1.0 -_-
Alright, coming from WM way back to an iPaq, as soon as I got an android I got task killers, especially as I watched my memory go down to like 40 megs.
After reading I am deciding to remove any (excluding ZDBox) task killers that I have, and see if Android really does manage memory well.
I have to admit that when I did notice my launcher running slow, I would kill tasks and it would pick back up. Anyways....
I have one question - I am running Juice Defender, that doesn't kill tasks, just manages wifi, and the radio, right? Its ok to keep that going?
I am running a rooted TB with BAMF SoaB with GoLauncher as my home.
Any input on this would be appreciated!
JuiceDefender does no task killing, just deals w/networking as you said. The only reason a task kller would be necessary is a misbehaved app that wakes up often and burns processor cycles - Android reclaims memory when needed (a built in task killer, if you will). If you have a less-than-popular app, it might have such a problem, but popular apps get enough scrutiny that they should not be burning cycles and should not need to be killed.
That helps me, thx.
I completely agree for juice defender. It helps on "saving your battery", not on managing app on background.
You could try Advanced Task Killer. it's a good one. I used it on my I9000 when i had a Gingerbread rom and it worked great
v6supercharger,no need for taskkiller..
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rashid.fairus said:
v6supercharger,no need for taskkiller..
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So I have read your post about this v6supercharger (wouldn't mind a real one for my truck, another post)
You indicate its easy, but I have zero knowledge about this kind of stuff. I will be going over the instillation instructions, but want to be sure that if I screw something up in the setup, It will be easy (battery pull) to start over?
Also, I am running a rooted phone with a CPU speed setting, and have overclocked it to 1400, will this V6 do the same, or is it a completely different setup?
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So I have read your post about this v6supercharger (wouldn't mind a real one for my truck, another post)
You indicate its easy, but I have zero knowledge about this kind of stuff. I will be going over the instillation instructions, but want to be sure that if I screw something up in the setup, It will be easy (battery pull) to start over?
Also, I am running a rooted phone with a CPU speed setting, and have overclocked it to 1400, will this V6 do the same, or is it a completely different setup?
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at the first time it maybe cause a bootloop(stuck),so pull out battery and boot again,so better not run it on boot,if its working(no bootloop) then you can set it to run on boot so you have permanent setup,and you can unsupercharger if you dont like it,it doesnt touch your clock speed,it just playing with ram and out of memory things,dont worry bout setting it,it will suggest for you..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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Thanks, I will give it a go Monday, thats my best time when I have all day without distractions. Will report when I get done with it.
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Thanks, I will give it a go Monday, thats my best time when I have all day without distractions. Will report when I get done with it.
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good luck,and make sure you made a backup..
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Is it worth the hassle of flashing the new ics leak and roms? ive been running clean rom 1.7 ics and its been fine does the new leak and roms based off of it have a performace boost worthy of the hassle of relocking and unlocking again?
I was very hesitant at first weather or not to do it. Now that I've done it and am running cleanrom 4.0 its performance is better and i, myself, am getting way better battery life. Go ahead and do it! Look for Scotts tut on how to do it. Follow it and its really easy.
Its def worth it and its rather easy if u just follow the directions.
Is there anyway to go back to GB after if you find it is not best for you?
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Is there anyway to go back to GB after if you find it is not best for you?
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yes very easily.
just load up GB kernel, and flash GB ROM..
Thanks Andy bones
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It's got some nice things in it that I like, but I have to mention this -- my phone's running a lot hotter. And it doesn't seem like any of the usual tricks (airplane mode, CDMA, etc.) are taking any of the load off the battery. Power settings say the juice is all going to the display, but I seriously doubt that -- it's staying plenty hot even when I keep the screen off.
Also, I've never liked the fact that this phone discharges while on even when connected to a power source. They really need to keep consumption inside USB's ability to charge. If you leave it on all day even while plugged in to power you'll have a low batt after a few hours. That's ridiculous.
Did you change your CPU governor to conservative? That is one of the things on my check list to do when flashing. It really keeps it alot cooler.
Also know that if you flash back to a gb Rom you probably won't have access to external memory
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Did you change your CPU governor to conservative? That is one of the things on my check list to do when flashing. It really keeps it alot cooler.
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How is this done? I never had to do this before on a previous build/device.
I use ROM Toolbox.
Its under the Performance tab, CPU controls. 1512 max 384 min governor set to conservative.
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Also know that if you flash back to a gb Rom you probably won't have access to external memory
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Scott has a fix for that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453324&page=431
download from post #4303
You should stop what you are doing and flash right now... If you follow the steps, you can be done in an hour. ICS is worth it.
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I've always had absolutely outstanding battery life with sense roms, granted I use custom kernels with undervolting. I've flashed basically every ROM here and I usually get maybe a full day out of sense under heavy usage and maybe half a day out of AOSP. Can somebody explain why? I'd always thought the SenseUI used more resources and had more backgrounded process running than AOSP. Benchmarking also reflects that. But I still get more usage from sense than aosp. Am I missing something? I also used custom kernels with aosp and undervolted.
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I'm probably wrong but the phone was built for sense not aosp. I've wondered the same thing myself.
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I'm probably wrong but the phone was built for sense not aosp. I've wondered the same thing myself.
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I don't think physical aspects are the reason for battery life here though. You'd think a ROM running fewer processes would have better life, but here it's the opposite. Unless Sense actually DOES run fewer system apps than aosp does...
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I've had better luck on MeanROM, which is Sense based than AOKP, but I'm new to the latter.
Does anyone on here run AOSP-based ROM's and get a full day's worth of battery life? Any tips/tricks for those of us on here having battery life issues with AOSP?
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Does anyone on here run AOSP-based ROM's and get a full day's worth of battery life? Any tips/tricks for those of us on here having battery life issues with AOSP?
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Depends on what aosp rom you're talking about. 4.4 naturally sucks more battery than 4.3 does. I recommend using tasker to switch off data when your screen is off, and reactivate every 15 minutes or so to make sure you still get background syncing. Not my idea, someone else posted this and it works great. Also undervolt if possible (make sure to stability test) and reduce screen brightness. Screen on uses a surprising amount of battery.
I already use Llama to contol wifi/GPS/BT and cycle mobile connections with the screen off. You need a custom kernel to undervolt, right? What program do you use to control that?
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I already use Llama to contol wifi/GPS/BT and cycle mobile connections with the screen off. You need a custom kernel to undervolt, right? What program do you use to contro that?
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I use kernel tuner. Be careful to not set anything to boot until you've thoroughly tested voltages.
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What settings on kernel tuner have you gotten away with changing without causing apps to FC or the phone to randomly reboot? I've played around with the governors a little bit, but I'm not familiar with all of the options in kernel tuner.
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What settings on kernel tuner have you gotten away with changing without causing apps to FC or the phone to randomly reboot? I've played around with the governors a little bit, but I'm not familiar with all of the options in kernel tuner.
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I anyways is interactive. Undervolt in will require extensive testing on your part since no phone is the same so my voltages may not work on your device. I don't touch anything that's in the governor mod section since I don't know what I'm doing there.
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