As per the title really, anyone moving to this from the Nexus S and have useful thoughts or first hand experience of both and can offer a comparison from a user perspective?
Yes I did.
It blows away the Nexus S in every aspect. The screen is better, the build quality is better, the performance is better, the speaker is better and the cameras are better.
The Nexus S feels like a 2 year old phone compared to this even though it only came out in December.
Thanks, that's encouraging - especially that you say the sound is better as I thought that was already quite acceptable on the Nexus S.
How about size wise? I've yet to get my hands on the S2 and I know it is obviously bigger than the Nexus S bit is it noticeably so in the hand would you say?
Probably too early to ask you opinion on battery life on comparison, right?
Currently an owner of the Nexus S i9023, I'm waiting till I have more info about the version who will hit France before rushing to buy it.
Eventhough the hardware shift is huge, I want to know whether there will be a big update of Android this summer or not before changing from a phone who will be the first to get said updates.
If yes, I'll wait till June before making my mind. Else, I'll probably go with the SGS 2 if I can find an NFC one.
I don't own either device, but based on reviews the s2 battery is on par with the nexus s.
Size isnt too much of a matter! You will gert used to it, and the s2 is alot lighter thoinner than nexus, so it can fit in your pocket easier!
My main concern when it comes to size is how feasible one handed operation is. Often when out and about you just want to whip out your phone, check something and put it away again. Its not always convenient to free up both hands for this.
Bilhouse said:
Yes I did.
It blows away the Nexus S in every aspect. The screen is better, the build quality is better, the performance is better, the speaker is better and the cameras are better.
The Nexus S feels like a 2 year old phone compared to this even though it only came out in December.
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how does it compare with NS in terms of one-hand handling? can u reach the bottom buttons with ease, or do u have to adjust ur grip
bcoz NS is fantastic in one-hand handling
Also, is the wifi strength much better on this phone because the reception on the nexus is kind of weak.
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I have a nexus one. I'd like to get this when it comes here. Does it have a notification light or led?
No, it does not have a notification led.
Any word on the size from anyone and comment on ease of one handed operation?
Bilhouse said:
Yes I did.
It blows away the Nexus S in every aspect. The screen is better, the build quality is better, the performance is better, the speaker is better and the cameras are better.
The Nexus S feels like a 2 year old phone compared to this even though it only came out in December.
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It's not that it feels like a 2 year phone,hell it even does not matter whether Nexus S was out in December or January.Nexus S was a single core phone while this one has a much powerful processor,better hardware in general.
As Google has done from Nexus 1,bring out it's latest updates along with a Nexus series.
N1 does that with 2.1,Nexus S done that with 2.3 & these two always get the latest & fastest updates.
There is no Android Smartphone OS version which utilizes dual core till now,there is no hardware/gpu acceleration throughout.As usual Google might announce a Nexus later this year{if N1 & Nexus S are to be followed} which might bring a dual core supported Android version.But yes till now 2.3.3{or even 2.3.4 available to Nexus} is a version which do not fully utilizes the great hardware power of all these dual cores from Samsung,Motorola,LG
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Any word on the size from anyone and comment on ease of one handed operation?
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I have a chance to play with SE Arc{t's actually of the same size as SGS 2} & man these phones are really big,moving from compact phone to tablet sized phonesi
xspyda said:
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I'd like to know this as well. Even though I've got big hands the Nexus S feels like the outer limit sizewise. If the SGS2 is much larger I'm afraid I'd have to move the phone up and down in my palm to reach everywhere - not very practical.
i'll move to SGS2 when the 1700 band version becomes available
as in Tmobile USA
xspyda said:
As per the title really, anyone moving to this from the Nexus S and have useful thoughts or first hand experience of both and can offer a comparison from a user perspective?
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AllGamer said:
i'll move to SGS2 when the 1700 band version becomes available
as in Tmobile USA
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You're on the Nexus S atm right? What would be your reasons for changing out of interest?
I don't understand where this myth about android not supporting dual-cores came from, but if you read up you'll see that android uses the linux kernel 2.6.
Here is the highlight features of each linux kernel:
Wikipedia said:
Feature history
Version 1.0 of the Linux kernel was released on 14 March 1994.[60] This release of the Linux kernel only supported single-processor i386-based computer systems. Portability became a concern, and so version 1.2 (released 7 March 1995)[61] gained support for computer systems using processors based on the Alpha, SPARC, and MIPS architectures.
Version 2.0 was released 9 June 1996.[62] There were 41 releases in the series. The major feature of 2.0 was SMP support (that is, support for multiple processors in a single system) and support for more types of processors.
Version 2.2 (released 26 January 1999)[63] removed the global spinlock and provided improved SMP support, and added support for the m68k and PowerPC architectures as well as new filesystems (including read-only support for Microsoft’s NTFS filesystem).[64]
Version 2.4.0, released on 4 January 2001,[65] contained support for ISA Plug and Play, USB, and PC Cards.[66] It also included support for the PA-RISC processor from Hewlett-Packard. Development for 2.4.x changed a bit in that more features were made available throughout the duration of the series, including: support for Bluetooth, Logical Volume Manager (LVM) version 1, RAID support, InterMezzo and ext3 filesystems.
Version 2.6.0 was released on 18 December 2003.[67] The 2.6 series of kernels is still the active series of stable kernels as of February 2011. The development for 2.6.x changed further towards including new features throughout the duration of the series. Among the changes that have been made in the 2.6 series are: integration of µClinux into the mainline kernel sources, PAE support, support for several new lines of CPUs, integration of ALSA into the mainline kernel sources, support for up to 232 users (up from 216), support for up to 229 process IDs (up from 215), substantially increased the number of device types and the number of devices of each type, improved 64-bit support, support for filesystems of up to 16 terabytes, in-kernel preemption, support for the Native POSIX Thread Library, User-mode Linux integration into the mainline kernel sources, SELinux integration into the mainline kernel sources, Infiniband support, and considerably more. Also notable are the addition of several filesystems throughout the 2.6.x releases: FUSE, JFS, XFS, ext4 and more. Details on the history of the 2.6 kernel series can be found in the ChangeLog files on the 2.6 kernel series source code release area of kernel.org.
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ryude said:
I don't understand where this myth about android not supporting dual-cores came from
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Yes, Linux's been supporting SMP for ages, but ...
Is this also true for the relevant ARM architecture(s)? I've no idea how many multi-cpu and/or multi-core ARM machines there's even been before.
Does SMP still work in the heavily customised Android branch of the kernel?
Is it enabled in shipping kernels?
Is threading supported at the OS level?
Only for system apps or also for NDK apps?
Can regular Android apps (the ones written in Java) use multiple cores?
Do they need to be specially adapted for it?
Doesn't look that cut and dried to me, the Linux kernel alone is certainly not enough.
xspyda said:
You're on the Nexus S atm right? What would be your reasons for changing out of interest?
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it's a SGS2, what other reason do you need?
nothing else can compare to SGS2
it's currently the best of the best phone out there
that's the phone i've been waiting for all these years, and it has finally come true
now, the next milestone that can beat SGS2 is a phone that can read your mind, and is controlled by thoughts alone
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Lol, fair enough ;-)
Have to say in my book it's almost worth the upgrade for the accessory range and dev support alone! This phone has been out only days and already the scene is buzzing!
Stark contrast to the Nexus S - which I'm learning the hard way!
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Hello guys. What were you actually expecting from Samsung Galaxy S3? Why I asked is because of reading few people's comment on it saying- "Samsung fail", "Not worth ed". Did you all expect Samsung to stuff in a super computer in a 8.6mm phone?
Now, you might say "that's MY opinion". I guess you are right.
But let's think something deep-
1) All you are asking for is 2GB RAM. Why? I could never cross 550MB in my S2.
2) 12MP? Well that might be even what I wanted. But Samsung fully concentrated on software tweeks.
3) The design is poor- I don't agree. What I agree is the build quality is cheap.
What do you guys say? I think S3 will be a hit
I was expecting )
1-ultra amoled hd 3d display
2- near 2gb ram because many games and apps is future will require more and more ram.
3-better shape design.
4-well camera has been improved even it is 8mp.
5-hd resolution ......
Others were fulfilled basically the software features are awesome but design and shape is pathetic and as for hardware nothing is new or special I believe it depends what people expected from then .....
Ok wait WORST PART#### Samsung galaxy s3 featuring exynos is bad As sense 2.1/30.3.5/4.0.+
Would never be ported As it will be impossible reason - exynos chip does not support sense we would need to remake the ui ....
I will stick to S2!!!
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There should be a forth question in the poll:
"Undecided, waiting to see it up close"
I'd want full hd display with 3d;2 giga of ram and a better gpu but I gonna to by s3 anyway!I really liked the design and these upgrade is good enough for me
I was explecting multiple versions of the device.
I would have liked to see one with a full QWERTY keyboard.
I would have like to seen one with no physical buttons.
I would have also liked to have seen one with pur ICS.
I watched the entire unpacked, and all I could think was, I can't wait for me to get my hands on one and flash CM9.
The S2 has never let me down performance wise so I expect much the same from S3.
However, my only disappointment is the look of the phone. It looks so S1. Major letdown.
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OP raises a good point. Question is whether our expectations were too high or too unrealistic??
Just image, if there were no high-end phones from Samsung after SGS2 (assuming Note and GNex didn't exist). If we look in this way, SGS3 is a decent upgrade from SGS2. We can't expect them to give a gigantic upgrade compared to Note/GNex when these phones are roughly 6 months old. Idea is that, compare SGS3 to SGS2 and see what you are getting extra. It's unfair comparing it to GNex.
1] Change in design -- for better or worse, that upto you to decide.
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2] Better SoC -- upgraded CPU and GPU.
3] Better resolution, even if you consider the PenTile. If we talk about sub-pixels, we are looking at 60% more sub-pixels compared to RGB matrix in SGS2.
4] Better camera quality even though the resolution is same. Check comparison between SGS3 vs SGS2 camera shots here
5] Bigger battery and more storage options.
I thought they would be able to produce a RGB matrix HD SAMOLED. Clearly, there is still some technical/engineering challenges. Hopefully they will do it in Note 2.
As for 2GB RAM, I would like someone to do a test and figure how many applications running simultaneously are required to fill 1GB.
Sadman Sakib said:
Hello guys. What were you actually expecting from Samsung Galaxy S3? Why I asked is because of reading few people's comment on it saying- "Samsung fail", "Not worth ed". Did you all expect Samsung to stuff in a super computer in a 8.6mm phone?
Now, you might say "that's MY opinion". I guess you are right.
But let's think something deep-
1) All you are asking for is 2GB RAM. Why? I could never cross 550MB in my S2.
2) 12MP? Well that might be even what I wanted. But Samsung fully concentrated on software tweeks.
3) The design is poor- I don't agree. What I agree is the build quality is cheap.
What do you guys say? I think S3 will be a hit
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You've never crossed 550mb? You're not using your phone then.
I agree with the excessiveness of a 12mp camera though. Design is in the eye of the beholder by yes plastic is cheap even Though it has it's advantages. I just hope the phone doesn't get so hot like the sgs2
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don2012 said:
I was expecting )
1-ultra amoled hd 3d display
2- near 2gb ram because many games and apps is future will require more and more ram.
3-better shape design.
4-well camera has been improved even it is 8mp.
5-hd resolution ......
Others were fulfilled basically the software features are awesome but design and shape is pathetic and as for hardware nothing is new or special I believe it depends what people expected from then .....
Ok wait WORST PART#### Samsung galaxy s3 featuring exynos is bad As sense 2.1/30.3.5/4.0.+
Would never be ported As it will be impossible reason - exynos chip does not support sense we would need to remake the ui ....
I will stick to S2!!!
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Thanks for your opinion. I really appreciate the link u provided about launchers...thanks
micoxda said:
There should be a forth question in the poll:
"Undecided, waiting to see it up close"
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Haha....you got one buddy
rd_nest said:
OP raises a good point. Question is whether our expectations were too high or too unrealistic??
Just image, if there were no high-end phones from Samsung after SGS2 (assuming Note and GNex didn't exist). If we look in this way, SGS3 is a decent upgrade from SGS2. We can't expect them to give a gigantic upgrade compared to Note/GNex when these phones are roughly 6 months old. Idea is that, compare SGS3 to SGS2 and see what you are getting extra. It's unfair comparing it to GNex.
1] Change in design -- for better or worse, that upto you to decide.
2] Better SoC -- upgraded CPU and GPU.
3] Better resolution, even if you consider the PenTile. If we talk about sub-pixels, we are looking at 60% more sub-pixels compared to RGB matrix in SGS2.
4] Better camera quality even though the resolution is same. Check comparison between SGS3 vs SGS2 camera shots here
5] Bigger battery and more storage options.
I thought they would be able to produce a RGB matrix HD SAMOLED. Clearly, there is still some technical/engineering challenges. Hopefully they will do it in Note 2.
As for 2GB RAM, I would like someone to do a test and figure how many applications running simultaneously are required to fill 1GB.
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Best comment so far!!
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I wanted
different material, not plastic again
screen edge to edge
1080p
1st phone to feature a well done edge to edge screen will score some major points, that would have been amazing for this phone.
Samsung galaxy s gti9000=looks like everyone can use preferred as from.now (old beauty ) but.looks a bit .... And is outdated
Samsung galaxy.s2 gti9100= looks manly phone and nice and not outdate looks cool and hot just wish it had a bigger scrrenn
Samsung galaxy s3= wow looks freaking ...... Like cow **** ewww nooooo .. Good specs(nothing new in specs)... ..awsome software features which R going to be ported.to s2
If some one finds the s3 firmware please pm me i will start porting the software features!!!!
My greatest wish for the SGS-III have been granted; a notification led.
Thank you Samsung!
i think the advantaged of buying android on apple is getting smaller
there no point of buying phone with no battery door
or no sdcard
or low mah battery
my next phone will be iphone
its should be perfect phone specs with android
or nothing
had enuf with lags of android
What is the point of this? Terrible grammar, and completely pointless....good riddance.
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Personal experience speaking here, you have to jailbreak an iPhone to even have a shot at making it as customizable as a stock Android phone, and it's getting harder and harder to jailbreak every generation. And having used both, I'd rather run a stock Android device over a jailbroken iOS device.
Proz00 said:
i think the advantaged of buying android on apple is getting smaller
there no point of buying phone with no battery door
or no sdcard
or low mah battery
my next phone will be iphone
its should be perfect phone specs with android
or nothing
had enuf with lags of android
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the reason why you are lagging, if your sig is correct, you're still running a Ginger Bread rom with an outdated recovery.
If you are still on GB then i would assume you dont have the latest firmware and that i would recommend you updating to the latest ruu before jumping ship.
no the sig not correct
im not talking about my phone
my phone is gr8 just the battery life
im talking about android generally
Cause we all know that iOS has no lag!:good:
zetsumeikuro said:
Cause we all know that iOS has no lag!:good:
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I know you were being sarcastic, but that is a common belief. In reality, iOS does a great job on the Springboard, but for the most part, it uses a lot of visual trickery to hide the lag in other places. In particular, apps don't launch nearly as quickly as people think they do, but you don't get that impression because the OS saves a screenshot of the last state of the app when it closes, and uses that as a load screen so you think it's already loaded. 9 times out of 10, by the time you try to interact with it, it has finished loading. That one time when you beat the app and it does nothing, you write it off as a glitch and move on. I will give them props for being very clever with manipulating psychology to make things feel so smooth, because that's where most of the perception of smoothness comes from.
shrike1978 said:
I know you were being sarcastic, but that is a common belief. In reality, iOS does a great job on the Springboard, but for the most part, it uses a lot of visual trickery to hide the lag in other places. In particular, apps don't launch nearly as quickly as people think they do, but you don't get that impression because the OS saves a screenshot of the last state of the app when it closes, and uses that as a load screen so you think it's already loaded. 9 times out of 10, by the time you try to interact with it, it has finished loading. That one time when you beat the app and it does nothing, you write it off as a glitch and move on. I will give them props for being very clever with manipulating psychology to make things feel so smooth, because that's where most of the perception of smoothness comes from.
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I am sure they have this patented
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My view on technology as a whole is I hate it! I can't stand that I don't know how to operate it and because if that I want something that doesn't want me thinking outside the box. I like my box. I just wanted to come to xda and start a thread about that.
On a side note, I have owned an I phone 4s and while it wasn't for me I did notice lag and didn't condemn the Os or manufacturer. Learn to operate your equipment or please just go get what suits you. Don't rant about how bad something is if you have 0 clue how to go about changing it in a developer website.
Lmao i should go home and yell at my light because it didn't auto dim to my eyes perception of brightness.
u clearly didnt got my point
android is based on java which is slow camper to iOS
android have its advantages on iOS
that we all know
but the today phones with specs i said at OP
doesn't make clearly big advantages on iOS
so for that i think i should change to iOS
cos the better touch and more...
im happy with my rezound really snappy with shrike1978's cm9
but android falling here IMO cos there no much diff.. as i said
i just saying my 2cent opinion
shrike1978 said:
I know you were being sarcastic, but that is a common belief. In reality, iOS does a great job on the Springboard, but for the most part, it uses a lot of visual trickery to hide the lag in other places. In particular, apps don't launch nearly as quickly as people think they do, but you don't get that impression because the OS saves a screenshot of the last state of the app when it closes, and uses that as a load screen so you think it's already loaded. 9 times out of 10, by the time you try to interact with it, it has finished loading. That one time when you beat the app and it does nothing, you write it off as a glitch and move on. I will give them props for being very clever with manipulating psychology to make things feel so smooth, because that's where most of the perception of smoothness comes from.
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Lol yeah I was . Gotta give it to Apple for being the tricky bastards they are.
Proz00 said:
u clearly didnt got my point
android is based on java which is slow camper to iOS
android have its advantages on iOS
that we all know
but the today phones with specs i said at OP
doesn't make clearly big advantages on iOS
so for that i think i should change to iOS
cos the better touch and more...
im happy with my rezound really snappy with shrike1978's cm9
but android falling here IMO cos there no much diff.. as i said
i just saying my 2cent opinion
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Go buy an iPhone and you can do your happy dance afterwards.
I dunno I have played with some pretty nice tip of the line android phones and the Iphone5. Can say if you are quoting any Os before jellybean and any processor before the s4 then maybe you should check out some new Technology, but if your gripe is java based I don't think anyone here can help u there.
Here's a shot, I think a smartphone should have a t9 dialer. I hated that about my old I phone 4. Then I had to buy an app if I wanted to use it for more than 5calls to keep the t9. I loved the camera and the battery was good on my 4s. Ios6 looked identical to ios5. Not very refreshing. Their software is well optimized to their hardware.
I can agree with you in some respects such as I have owned all the nexus lines except the 4. IMHO the nexus should be the fastest and best of all phones. It shouldn't have half ass battery life or a half ass camera and an open Os. Its touted as flagship yet trails in every category other than being but naked aosp.
stkiswr said:
I dunno I have played with some pretty nice tip of the line android phones and the Iphone5. Can say if you are quoting any Os before jellybean and any processor before the s4 then maybe you should check out some new Technology, but if your gripe is java based I don't think anyone here can help u there.
Here's a shot, I think a smartphone should have a t9 dialer. I hated that about my old I phone 4. Then I had to buy an app if I wanted to use it for more than 5calls to keep the t9. I loved the camera and the battery was good on my 4s. Ios6 looked identical to ios5. Not very refreshing. Their software is well optimized to their hardware.
I can agree with you in some respects such as I have owned all the nexus lines except the 4. IMHO the nexus should be the fastest and best of all phones. It shouldn't have half ass battery life or a half ass camera and an open Os. Its touted as flagship yet trails in every category other than being but naked aosp.
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I think Google is going more for affordable and compatible with Nexus than they are top of the line. So far, they've been letting the OEM's handle the top of the line market. For them, it's a win-win. They make reference phones and tablets that show Android at its best, and they keep in good graces with the OEM's by not outshining their latest handsets. It's a valid strategy, but with the new Nexus program in place, it's one that I think they need to branch out from. They're giving the OEM's credit in the name now (Samsung Galaxy Nexus, LG Nexus 4, Samsung Nexus 10, etc), so they can afford to make some high end hardware now without marginalizing the OEM's they depend on. I have disposable income, and I might be willing to pay $650 for a phone if it was true AOSP and had the specs to back up the price, but I don't have much interest in the current Nexus phone lineup, even for the price.
Proz00 said:
u clearly didnt got my point
android is based on java which is slow camper to iOS
android have its advantages on iOS
that we all know
but the today phones with specs i said at OP
doesn't make clearly big advantages on iOS
so for that i think i should change to iOS
cos the better touch and more...
im happy with my rezound really snappy with shrike1978's cm9
but android falling here IMO cos there no much diff.. as i said
i just saying my 2cent opinion
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No please understand I am not arguing with anyone's point. Its just always been my opinion that the nexus should truly be flagship... With a t9 dialer. Excellent battery life. Camera at least on par with the sensor in the Iphone5 or one series or galaxy s line. Even if you had to rely on 3rd party editing apps. Back when HTC made the first nexus it was a solid well made very good phone and really led the pack. Now all nexus since have some for of tradeoff. Technology is booming but one thing apple has done is keep it to themselves. Apple doesn't want verizon, verizon wants apple. Not the same for android. Too many variables. I'm still holding on to the hopes of a moto nexus with a really great camera but that doesn't seem like it's gonna happen. At least moto will put a big ass battery in something, even if they won't use the greatest camera lol.
I like aosp, but just wish there was one aosp device that came in and really put it down in all the right areas. Battery life shouldn't be an issue or excuse anymore, nexus4 doesn't hardly last longer than the old one yet another manufacturer with same processor can get double the battery life. I think I'm just ranting and probably should stop lol
Google does android, they should be setting the bar that others follow but instead the bar gets set by others and they try to catch up every year since the nexus one... Again it's my opinion
Proz00 said:
i think the advantaged of buying android on apple is getting smaller
there no point of buying phone with no battery door
or no sdcard
or low mah battery
my next phone will be iphone
its should be perfect phone specs with android
or nothing
had enuf with lags of android
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Hopefully your iPhone will have better spellcheck....
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In case you haven't heard, the all new successor to our beloved HAM2 is the Mate7! Whether or not Huawei went through 4 different Mate models that we never knew about, I'll never know. I presume (since many people haven't heard of Huawei) they want the HAM7 to look "one step ahead" of the iPhone 6 and the Galaxy S6.
Here's the official Huawei page for the Mate7, and some pictures.
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Height
157.0mm
Width
81.0mm
Depth
7.9mm
Weight
About 185g (including the battery)
Display
6.0" FHD Screen,1080P (1920 x 1080), 368PPI 16M colors
CPU
Hisilicon Kirin 925
4x1.8GHz + 4x1.3GHz + 1x230MHz
Operation System
Android™ 4.4/HUAWEI Emotion UI 3.0
Memory
RAM : 2 GB
ROM : 16 GB
Full specs here
Anyways, what do you think? Will you be getting this phone?
Seems like the phone is now in the same price range Samsung / HTC flagship phones. So not for me and also there is no mention of a USA version.
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It looks awesome.
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Seems like the phone is now in the same price range Samsung / HTC flagship phones. So not for me and also there is no mention of a USA version.
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I think the biggest updates are the fingerprint sensor and the 1080p resolution. The rest of the specs are somewhat similar to our phone, so hopefully it won't have a huge price bump.
I'm sure a US version will come out eventually. Huawei wanted to come to the US with the HAM2 so it wouldn't make sense to not make this.
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I think the biggest updates are the fingerprint sensor and the 1080p resolution. The rest of the specs are somewhat similar to our phone, so hopefully it won't have a huge price bump.
I'm sure a US version will come out eventually. Huawei wanted to come to the US with the HAM2 so it wouldn't make sense to not make this.
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Agreed. They are certainly ramping up to compete with the other big guys here. After having the HAM2 I have no reason to believe I'll go back to those others.
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That design is on point!
anyone know anything about the SoC Hisilicon Kirin 925 4x1.8GHz+4x1.3GHz+1x230MHz
WTF is it besides an octocore......are these chip makers a new company on the scene and if so is there any software that will be compatible with it....other than that a nice iphony look'a'like......:laugh:
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anyone know anything about the SoC Hisilicon Kirin 925 4x1.8GHz+4x1.3GHz+1x230MHz
WTF is it besides an octocore......are these chip makers a new company on the scene and if so is there any software that will be compatible with it....other than that a nice iphony look'a'like......:laugh:
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They are Huawei in house chip designers....
My Mate 2 MT2-L05 has a Hisilicon Kirin 910 chip in it which runs everything flawlessly, and if you look in the benchmarking thread, it also appears to be considerably faster than the Qualcomm 400 Snapdragon in the MT2-L03 US version, although until the MT2-L03 runs on 4.4.2 a direct comparison is slightly unfair.
The Mate7 will also be available in a 3GB RAM/32GB configuration.
I find it hard to believe Huawei would release a US version of the AM2, vastly improve it, and then not sell a US version of that successor. I would guess that a US version comes out a month or so after the foreign version is widely available.
I have the AM2. Without knowing what the AM7 would look like, my suggestions would've been:
Improve build quality
Make thinner+more compact
Lighter
Enable double tap to wake/faster way to unlock than antiquated side button
Improve performance+screen quality without sacrificing battery life
They've done all of the items on my list. I'll be trading in my Mate 2 for this baby the second a US compatible model becomes available.
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The Mate7 will also be available in a 3GB RAM/32GB configuration.
I find it hard to believe Huawei would release a US version of the AM2, vastly improve it, and then not sell a US version of that successor. I would guess that a US version comes out a month or so after the foreign version is widely available.
I have the AM2. Without knowing what the AM7 would look like, my suggestions would've been:
Improve build quality
Make thinner+more compact
Lighter
Enable double tap to wake/faster way to unlock than antiquated side button
Improve performance+screen quality without sacrificing battery life
They've done all of the items on my list. I'll be trading in my Mate 2 for this baby the second a US compatible model becomes available.
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Agreed.
Current phones, Ascend Mate 2, LG G3, LG G2, LG Lucid 3. Tablets, Nexus 7, LG GPad. I like the Ascend Mate 2 the best.
Most of the width and weight seems to be the battery. I changed the DPI to 264 and if not for application issues 240 was perfect screen is bright and clear flexible frame and screen I am more than impressed. Adjustments made and the phone is super snappy. I agree about the button placement though. Other than that really taken with this phone.
A model of the Mate7, MT7-L09 is purported to work with TMO/ATT LTE in the US. The price is higher than the AM2, but it's also a better screen, higher build quality and Android 4.4 out of the box. I'm thinking of giving it a shot.
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Ascend-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00PQZMKNY/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
I would rather go with the new nexus if I was to buy anything else for that price range
Not me. I prefer the significantly better battery life, thinner+more compact frame and microSD slot at $550 vs the Nexus 6 64GB at $750 after taxes.
Wish it had been this price when I bought my HAM2
Mate 7 is still too pricy for me... And doesn't have full network support only 1/2 bands supported so many places in the rural area I live in wouldn't have signal as I found out with my previous phone before the mate 2. I love the full network support and better connectivity with this $300 phone. 550 is still too much in my opinion.
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Not me. I prefer the significantly better battery life, thinner+more compact frame and microSD slot at $550 vs the Nexus 6 64GB at $750 after taxes.
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Yeah you are right, hadn't thought about that.
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A model of the Mate7, MT7-L09 is purported to work with TMO/ATT LTE in the US. The price is higher than the AM2, but it's also a better screen, higher build quality and Android 4.4 out of the box. I'm thinking of giving it a shot.
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Ascend-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00PQZMKNY/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
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Just want to mention that there is no official US version yet, this is an individual seller, so no warranty, no support, even seller reputation need put into consideration. Of course network/band will be another issue.
Greetings,
I know officially mhl is not supported on galaxy alpha
For curiosity's sake and confirmation - will someone please plug in an mhl cable and test if there's any hdmi video signal to the monitor?
Many thanks!
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Greetings,
I know officially mhl is not supported on galaxy alpha
For curiosity's sake and confirmation - will someone please plug in an mhl cable and test if there's any hdmi video signal to the monitor?
Many thanks!
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Nope, it won't work. I have one that I use for my Samsung Tab Pro 10,1, and it doesn't output anything on the Galaxy Alpha. I was actually amazed when it didn't mostly becuase Samsung seems to have cut corners everywhere on this device besides the chassis.
Thank you for testing that out..
I had been contemplating on galaxy alpha as it is on clearance... with the lack of community development for this device...I guess I'll give it a miss and see what does S6 have for offer
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Thank you for testing that out..
I had been contemplating on galaxy alpha as it is on clearance... with the lack of community development for this device...I guess I'll give it a miss and see what does S6 have for offer
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I shelled out for the Alpha, 0/10 wouldn't do again. Good choice on a flagship that will at least get support with time. This is horrendous. I really need to learn compiling roms. There's like NO development for this device. I should have learned by now not to buy niche products.
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I shelled out for the Alpha, 0/10 wouldn't do again. Good choice on a flagship that will at least get support with time. This is horrendous. I really need to learn compiling roms. There's like NO development for this device. I should have learned by now not to buy niche products.
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What problems your alpha has? At least mine works like charm, no need for CM or any other custom rom... This is first Android for me that I haven't rooted. Usually people need an software update or custom ROM, when the device has something missing and/or something is not working properly.
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What problems your alpha has? At least mine works like charm, no need for CM or any other custom rom... This is first Android for me that I haven't rooted. Usually people need an software update or custom ROM, when the device has something missing and/or something is not working properly.
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Well for starters, when I listen to music from Google Play and the device goes into sleep in the pocket it starts lagging, lol. It only stops when it has fully switched onto the smaller processor, I guess? To me that's bad coding. TouchWiz is still clunky and too colorful for my liking, and the dark blue color is just not to my liking either. The screen is not THAT good either, I would have expected them to use a more expensive amoled on this one but hell, can't have it all, I can live with it.
I bought it for the looks and I hoped more people, devs and such, would be willing to buy it. Samsung makes decent products, their software is absolute bollocks if you ask me. Like I said, I took a chance and bought a device that at the time didn't have any development going for it, and to this day it still hasn't.
I am really happy that you enjoy your Sammy device, even if to me it sounds like you have a bloated up phone due to no root. But I guess there is something for everyone. How ever I must ask you to understand that I don't look for the same as you, apparently do, from the phone. I want stock vanilla or CM on my device because I find it more soothing. My Exynos tablet finally got it and I was hoping this phone would too.. So yes, I took two chances with Samsung now. The first one ended well but I feel like this one isn't going to work out quite as well. I say these things solely because I enjoy these things in a phone. We're simply different people and you do not need to understand me or see the display the way I do, for instance.
I do not intend to squash your enjoyment of your device at all. I am really happy that you enjoy your phone. How ever when I look at the display and the software, I find it lacking for the price, and I know that CM or vanilla would at least ease me off a bit.
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Well for starters, when I listen to music from Google Play and the device goes into sleep in the pocket it starts lagging, lol. It only stops when it has fully switched onto the smaller processor, I guess? To me that's bad coding. TouchWiz is still clunky and too colorful for my liking, and the dark blue color is just not to my liking either. The screen is not THAT good either, I would have expected them to use a more expensive amoled on this one but hell, can't have it all, I can live with it.
I bought it for the looks and I hoped more people, devs and such, would be willing to buy it. Samsung makes decent products, their software is absolute bollocks if you ask me. Like I said, I took a chance and bought a device that at the time didn't have any development going for it, and to this day it still hasn't.
I am really happy that you enjoy your Sammy device, even if to me it sounds like you have a bloated up phone due to no root. But I guess there is something for everyone. How ever I must ask you to understand that I don't look for the same as you, apparently do, from the phone. I want stock vanilla or CM on my device because I find it more soothing. My Exynos tablet finally got it and I was hoping this phone would too.. So yes, I took two chances with Samsung now. The first one ended well but I feel like this one isn't going to work out quite as well. I say these things solely because I enjoy these things in a phone. We're simply different people and you do not need to understand me or see the display the way I do, for instance.
I do not intend to squash your enjoyment of your device at all. I am really happy that you enjoy your phone. How ever when I look at the display and the software, I find it lacking for the price, and I know that CM or vanilla would at least ease me off a bit.
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It is just first time, that bloated samsung crapwized phone works like it should.... At least I use most of samsung stuff... for fun mostly... Of course I have disabled mymagazine and s-voice, because they were slowing things down, but on most part it works. And cm rom is on the way and it will be nice, light and smooth as all of them just wait and see. BTW even nexus 5 is slowed by battery-draining, sometimes laggy Google services. So I would agree that good cm port is better than any stock rom. Problem with our device is custom hardware. For instance wolfson sound processing hub, exynos octa 9 (or more) core processor with 4+4+1+.... cores for everything, custom camera sensor, heart rate monitor, independent intel modem.... and so on, makes it hard for developers to work, but is awesome when they take their time. You should hear what that wolfson chip is capable of when it is de-restricted and reprogrammed to use all functions it has.
All this makes me think that this phone has received much R&D money than half of devices they have released this year together.
P.S. To be honest I usually brake stuff, but i bought this, because it was small and light, had 1 year free screen insurance, wolfson sound, OLED screen (the newest gen ALMOLED tech with diamond matrix was a bonus), durability (small samsungs are strong and it has GG4 on the screen), camera (sensor and software) and power (THAT exynos).
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It is just first time, that bloated samsung crapwized phone works like it should.... At least I use most of samsung stuff... for fun mostly... Of course I have disabled mymagazine and s-voice, because they were slowing things down, but on most part it works. And cm rom is on the way and it will be nice, light and smooth as all of them just wait and see. BTW even nexus 5 is slowed by battery-draining, sometimes laggy Google services. So I would agree that good cm port is better than any stock rom. Problem with our device is custom hardware. For instance wolfson sound processing hub, exynos octa 9 (or more) core processor with 4+4+1+.... cores for everything, custom camera sensor, heart rate monitor, independent intel modem.... and so on, makes it hard for developers to work, but is awesome when they take their time. You should hear what that wolfson chip is capable of when it is de-restricted and reprogrammed to use all functions it has.
All this makes me think that this phone has received much R&D money than half of devices they have released this year together.
P.S. To be honest I usually brake stuff, but i bought this, because it was small and light, had 1 year free screen insurance, wolfson sound, OLED screen (the newest gen ALMOLED tech with diamond matrix was a bonus), durability (small samsungs are strong and it has GG4 on the screen), camera (sensor and software) and power (THAT exynos).
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I do know the processor in theory should be great. But because Samsung is not releasing anything useful we can't take advantage. And I'm sorry to say this but progress is stalling like a boss on the unofficial port of CM11, which if I might add is already an older edition of CM than what is currently being dev'd by the Cyanogen boys.. Not to mention by the time it's done it's going to be even older. I appreciate the effort but it's a very slow progress, it's not the devs fault, it's Samsung's fault.
By the way, once again, I'm glad you enjoy the heart rate thingy and such but I really don't need it. I just wanted the metal chassis and the perfect size factor of this device. A some what sturdy built Samsung for once. Not too plasticky. The thing you mention about "new display technology" I don' really follow. PenTile is so freaking weird when it comes to the green subpixels. I will still hold my ground on that I can see that fitfh less green in each subpixel. I've described this as "stitching" effect earlier. The way you can see on a solid icon for instance, that the red color is not "level" all the way down, it's more of a line of sown pixels. It can be seen on white text too, it's like the edges of the text blurs into a dark background. On such a small display I'm certain that 720p would look more clear in an LCD display with protoPenTile, RGBW or an IPS display. But I'm really nitpicking the display here and like I said, when I'm at a fair distance of the display I don't notice it and I can live with it. It's just my brain is annoying me with the fact that it's THERE, lol.
Don't brake your phone this time then, that's too expensive a phone for that.
ttyl
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(the newest gen ALMOLED tech with diamond matrix was a bonus)
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Look at the white around the reds.. It's a weird effect that I can see even when I'm holding the phone down in normal position. Sorry I know it is a big picture.
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Almost 30 months of major support isn't bad, but what annoys me is that Google hasn't fixed the Wifi issue on Lollipop...Oh well, if the GNex can still handle 5.1 custom ROMs, the Nexus 10 can, right?
https://plus.google.com/+DerekRoss/posts/1jzpZRMoMCL
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
While it doesn't matter too much, still, screw you google, I paid the same as an iPad 4 and those are still being supported
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Almost 30 months of major support isn't bad, but what annoys me is that Google hasn't fixed the Wifi issue on Lollipop...Oh well, if the GNex can still handle 5.1 custom ROMs, the Nexus 10 can, right? ...
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You are correct assuming at least one Dev likes the device enough to keep pumping out updates to their ROM. I had an ancient Galaxy Tab P-1000, given to me by a relative still in the original box. That tab came with Android Gingerbread. An XDA Dev was still supporting it with a ROM which had Android 4.3 (now maybe even more recent). So if that can be a guide then as long as there is at least one Dev and the hardware can handle the OS then you have hope of Android M and beyond.
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You are correct assuming at least one Dev likes the device enough to keep pumping out updates to their ROM. I had an ancient Galaxy Tab P-1000, given to me by a relative still in the original box. That tab came with Android Gingerbread. An XDA Dev was still supporting it with a ROM which had Android 4.3 (now maybe even more recent). So if that can be a guide then as long as there is at least one Dev and the hardware can handle the OS then you have hope of Android M and beyond.
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But if Google doesn't provide aosp images for a device, how does an interested developer begin to build a custom ROM? Just asking because I'm ignorant about android development.
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But if Google doesn't provide aosp images for a device, how does an interested developer begin to build a custom ROM? Just asking because I'm ignorant about android development.
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Images are compiled versions of the code. Google publishes AOSP code to the public (including the upcoming Android-M). The hardware "blobs" are proprietary (interface between HW e.g. WiFi radio) and software. I believe that a Dev would use the latest "blob" they can get along with the latest AOSP code to compile and create a ROM (set of images). The "blobs" would not be updated more than an older official release. I do not make my own ROMs so am a little hazy on all the details but ROMs definitely use the public AOSP code before adding alterations.
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Images are compiled versions of the code. Google publishes AOSP code to the public (including the upcoming Android-M). The hardware "blobs" are proprietary (interface between HW e.g. WiFi radio) and software. I believe that a Dev would use the latest "blob" they can get along with the latest AOSP code to compile and create a ROM (set of images). The "blobs" would not be updated more than an older official release. I do not make my own ROMs so am a little hazy on all the details but ROMs definitely use the public AOSP code before adding alterations.
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Sound good. Let's hope this proves to be the case for the Nexus 10.
Once again, I'm not buying the Nexus device. Long live Apple!
IOS 9 incoming for iphone 4s
Damn google!
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Once again, I'm not buying the Nexus device. Long live Apple!
IOS 9 incoming for iphone 4s
Damn google!
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But you should consider the great variety of ROMs that we've been able to choose from, and the degree of freedom we've enjoyed in customising our systems.
On your iPhone, you're locked into iOS, with no system-level access, and nowhere else to go.
Sooner or later, your iPhone 4s will stop being officially supported by Apple. At that point, your device will truly become obsolete, while older Nexus devices will probably continue to receive updates through community effort.
well, that's disappointing, considering how mine is still rocking, and used pretty much every single day since launch.
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well, that's disappointing, considering how mine is still rocking, and used pretty much every single day since launch.
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I'm in the same boat. It will be a sad day once the device is not supported.
I have always had random reboots. A lot less frequent with each update. About a month ago my battery took a hit (not physical, no idea what happened) and now my battery only gets about half the amount of screen time between charges. Even with these 2 issues I still love and use the device every day. I am all about the latest android updates and the nexus line is the only way to go with those priorities. Looked into the n9 but disappointed in the battery life (around 5 hours.. The same I currently get on my n10 with half the amount it had when new).
Not sure where to go for my tablet needs if no new tablet is released this year... Which sounds like the case. I love the sock android experience without the bugs of cm or cm based Roms.... And if I did want to go with the cm route it runs best on Nexus. I have the n6 so the n7 feels too small.
It has been a great ride n10 and you will never be forgotten in my books....
I'm no stranger to unsupported devices. My last tablet was an HP TouchPad. lol. Wether Google gives the Nexus 10 Android M or not, Im sure we will still be able to run it unofficially thanks to the devs.
I'm not giving up on M yet. The Nexus 4 didn't get the L preview but still got Lollipop. The N10 has gotten quite a bit of love from Google so we shall see.
As we all remember, the Nexus 4 did not get the Android L developer's preview but it still got Lollipop when it went publicly available.
Cross your fingers for Nexus 10 support.
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As we all remember, the Nexus 4 did not get the Android L developer's preview but it still got Lollipop when it went publicly available.
Cross your fingers for Nexus 10 support.
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Why the N4 compare? Nexus 10 didn't get the L preview, but got Lollipop.
Hurricane Andrew said:
I'm not giving up on M yet. The Nexus 4 didn't get the L preview but still got Lollipop. The N10 has gotten quite a bit of love from Google so we shall see.
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You preview the latest and greatest. Google would have been stupid to give the N10 or N4 a preview of L/M. I'm honestly surprised the 5 got an M build, but as a hammerhead owner, I'm not complaining.
Also, nobody panic, BUT...... https://android.googlesource.com/device/samsung/manta/
The manta has a m-preview tag. To be fair, so does grouper, and I doubt grouper will see M. Though honestly, after using M for a day it seems to be a fine-tuning of L, nothing too crazy. I don't see why the manta couldn't handle M. Also interesting is that no announcement of the Nexus Update Policy was made at I/O. Google might have backpedaled. We shall see...
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You preview the latest and greatest. Google would have been stupid to give the N10 or N4 a preview of L/M. I'm honestly surprised the 5 got an M build, but as a hammerhead owner, I'm not complaining.
Also, nobody panic, BUT...... https://android.googlesource.com/device/samsung/manta/
The manta has a m-preview tag. To be fair, so does grouper, and I doubt grouper will see M. Though honestly, after using M for a day it seems to be a fine-tuning of L, nothing too crazy. I don't see why the manta couldn't handle M. Also interesting is that no announcement of the Nexus Update Policy was made at I/O. Google might have backpedaled. We shall see...
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EDIT!!!!!: That tag has an honest-to-goodness commit, manta-specific, based on M. I can only assume it's also on the mnc-dev branch. Mako also has a MNC kernel commit. The N10 might actually, officially see M!
I hit reply instead of edit, but oh well. It's worth it.
Let's see how it goes... I'm still on 4.4.4. Didn't want to update to L due to the wifi bug with eduroam. Patiently waiting for M for my beloved Nexus 10.
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https://android.googlesource.com/device/samsung/manta/+/android-m-preview
Koopa777 said:
Almost 30 months of major support isn't bad, but what annoys me is that Google hasn't fixed the Wifi issue on Lollipop...Oh well, if the GNex can still handle 5.1 custom ROMs, the Nexus 10 can, right?
https://plus.google.com/+DerekRoss/posts/1jzpZRMoMCL
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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I don't see anything concrete but rumours. Until M is released and if nothing is announced beforehand from Google, don't believe anything else.
I now that from time to time this device has had is share of Wi-Fi issues but for the most part mine connects fairly well to my router.
Here is a quick screen shot showing what I am connected at on 2.4ghz it gets even better on 5ghz, sometimes....
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