I've seen a few people mention that various UK networks cap the mobile data speeds, especially if you buy from 3rd party vendors e.g. dial-a-phone or buymobiles.net rather than the network themselves.
Does any know how much truth there is in this?
This will probably decide who I get my SGS2 with...
Thanks in advance!
Afaik, tmobile uk only let 3rd party contact on 3g networks I.e. 385kbps. To get the full 1.8mbps you to pay an extra £5a month.
Anybody thinking they are being hit by speed caps should try using NDT mobile client from the marketplace as it details what is happening between you and the NDT servers.
I am currently testing a 3UK payg sim and getting 3Mbps down/1.4Mbps up
Sent from my HTC Hero
I know my original galaxy s through mobiles uk had no limt pulled up to 3meg tested on speed test. this was with vodafone
Thanks for the info guys. If everyone could post their experiences with their network and data speed/caps that would be very useful.
I'm currently using a HTC Hero with the latest VillainROM on T-Mobile UK (bought from tmobile).
I just done a few speed test with the speedtest.net app and I got:
Test1
Ping: 195ms
D/L: 153kbps
U/L: 180kbps
Test2
Ping: 265ms
D/L: 280kbps
U/L: 346kbps
Test3
Ping: 117ms
D/L: 277kbps
U/L: 332kbps
Test4
Ping: 350ms
D/L: 319kbps
U/L: 448kbps
These are pretty poor results... I'm gonna have to chase T-Mobile up about this.
p.s. I'm in Central London
I take it you missed my thread then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054255
I spoke to T-Mobile yesterday. The lady I spoke too, her call centre manager and the top man off the forums whom she spoke to on the phone all advised me that there are no speed caps whatsoever. Whether you buy from T-Mobile or a 3rd party, there are NO speed caps, only usage caps of 500MB.
vinokirk said:
I spoke to T-Mobile yesterday. The lady I spoke too, her call centre manager and the top man off the forums whom she spoke to on the phone all advised me that there are no speed caps whatsoever. Whether you buy from T-Mobile or a 3rd party, there are NO speed caps, only usage caps of 500MB.
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But what they told you has been proven to be false, members here have complained and had the limitation lifted, from 300kbps to 1.5Mbps
But dont forget the results will vary with times of day and network congestion..
Ive just run speedtest from just outside manchester so not on a congested city centre transmitter and also at a weekend.
Im on o2:
over 5 tests:
ping between 115/120 ms
DL between 3500-4023kbps
UL between 1582-1701kbps
Im pretty happy with that
even in city centre during the week i can consistently get around 3meg - i know because its faster than my company wireless which is capped at 2meg
vinokirk said:
I spoke to T-Mobile yesterday. The lady I spoke too, her call centre manager and the top man off the forums whom she spoke to on the phone all advised me that there are no speed caps whatsoever. Whether you buy from T-Mobile or a 3rd party, there are NO speed caps, only usage caps of 500MB.
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This is true. I got Phones4u to get T-mobile technical support to confirm this over a conference call, and made sure the call was recorded in case T-mobile were talking rubbish. If I find its throttled, and they've clearly said its not, I now have evidence that lets me void the contract...
The tech support guy mentioned how newer contracts weren't affected. My advice would be to purchase using the distance selling act, and do some tests yourself. If you find it throttled, ask them to sort it in the next few days otherwise you'll invoke your distance selling act to return it.... that should get them moving!
NeoVR,
That's pretty impressive! And it contradicts whats the OP in:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054255 said.
I Just did another test and got 132kbps...
td444 said:
The tech support guy mentioned how newer contracts weren't affected. My advice would be to purchase using the distance selling act, and do some tests yourself. If you find it throttled, ask them to sort it in the next few days otherwise you'll invoke your distance selling act to return it.... that should get them moving!
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+1 for this. I will be doing this for sure.
I think Tmob speeds are just crap in general. My mate on 3 get 1.7mbps stood next to me.
I'm with TalkMobile (Vodafone) and so far it has been excellent, with no signs of any speed cap.
i am on giffgaff (see sig) which runs on the o2 network.
it is much quicker than i used to get on t-mo
ping: 167
DL: 2847
UL350
ping: 154
DL: 3256
UL: 340
ping: 151
DL: 3253
UL: 349
for me, this is almost as quick as my home broadband (o2), so i am happy.
also on giffgaff, there us no FUP cap!
minty1978 said:
i am on giffgaff (see sig) which runs on the o2 network.
it is much quicker than i used to get on t-mo
ping: 167
DL: 2847
UL350
ping: 154
DL: 3256
UL: 340
ping: 151
DL: 3253
UL: 349
for me, this is almost as quick as my home broadband (o2), so i am happy.
also on giffgaff, there us no FUP cap!
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+1 getting similar DL speeds to you but higher UL speeds min UL around 1.2mbps.
vinokirk said:
I spoke to T-Mobile yesterday. The lady I spoke too, her call centre manager and the top man off the forums whom she spoke to on the phone all advised me that there are no speed caps whatsoever. Whether you buy from T-Mobile or a 3rd party, there are NO speed caps, only usage caps of 500MB.
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After being with tmobile for years, I only bothered creating an online account yesterday and found something very interesting. See attached screen shots
I also queried this.
All this does is put a cap on you data usage so you don't go over your limit.
E.G. If your limit is 500mb, you will not be allowed to go over 500mb.
I confirmed this with the South Wales call centre manager Dave.
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After being with tmobile for years, I only bothered creating an online account yesterday and found something very interesting. See attached screen shots
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From Google:
The "Capped Data rate" is actually a service on the account that stops you being charged at anymore than £1 per day for web browsing. Even if you have Web'n'Walk booster on the account its added automatically.
If you have the W'n'W booster (£5 per month) or get it free with Flext then you won't be on the HSDPA for using the internet. You will be getting 3G speeds (300k/s) as the service is throttled as its very unlikely a phone can display a website as quickly as HSDPA can download it
Thanks for the info guys.
I think I'm going to move over to Three... Had enough of TMobile!
BoogWeed said:
Thanks for the info guys.
I think I'm going to move over to Three... Had enough of TMobile!
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Only 24m contracts though on Three, unless you get their sim only deal of course!
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I picked up my sim free s2 today and it's awesome, but prior to picking it up I spent a load of money buying various payg sim cards to test for data performance. Minimum top up seems to be £10 these days (ouch) and this is what I got.
Please note when testing vodafone I used a contract sim and 3g was unavailable where I was in devon
Please note I did not test T-orange (as I'm already aware they are useless for data)
Please note all tests were done in west london and devon
Please note speed tests were done with www.speedtest.net
Please note all tests were done with full signal strength
Please note I used the "about: useragent" trick to let my phone view the true iplayer website
Tesco
This is actually using o2 behind the scenes.
Data rate 0.5 mbps this was pathetic but much worse than being slow, the data transfer was horribly uneven when downloading, you would get a burst of data and then wait literally a minute or 2 for the next burst, this behaviour meant that when attempting to download a newspaper (free press reader app from samsung) it would never complete.
Some kind of https (secure internet) issue meant it is unable to log into hsbc bank
BBC iplayer video streams were completely blocked by the network.
www.tvcatchup.com also does not work
I then tethered (via wifi) my phone to my laptop and repeated the tests to check if it was a device competency issue, the results were exactly the same.
O2
The results were exactly the same as tesco, unsurprising seeing as it's the same network except logging into hsbc worked perfectly.
I have it on good authority that giff gaff (also on o2) has similar poor data rates.
3
All I can say is WOW what a difference
Data rate steady at around 2.5mbps I can download a newspaper in a couple of minutes, no problems with secure websites the only nuisance was removing the content lock because apparently (according to 3) even torrent like websites are too mature for youngsters and are lumped into the same restricted category as hard porn websites
BBC iplayer works perfectly both on my phone and when tethered to a laptop as does www.tvcatchup.com
In general tethering to my laptop was a positive and speedy experience (for mobile) I actually went on to download a couple of gigabytes of data which was made possible because if you top up with £15 you can get unlimited data for 30 days, and I don't mean a fair use policy of 500 mb or 1gb, I mean TRULY unlimited. Also included with your £15 is 300 any net minutes and 3000 texts.
Lastly vodafone the king of data, peaking at 4mbps everything works well (until you run out of your measly 500 mb of data for the month and stump up more money for more data) also whilst vodafone has better coverage than 3 for voice 3 is winning for 3g coverage. The bottom line is vodafone is the best performer (when you can get it) but you will have to pay for it
In conclusion I'm keeping my 3payg sim all you can eat data for £15 including talk minutes and thousands of texts, seems like a good deal to me.
I use Giffgaff for my Galaxy Tab and I quite often get speeds of up to and around 1.5-2Mbps. Found them to be the best value for money considering what you get for your £10. I'll be switching to them full time once my Orange contract is up. I guess you kinda have to be lucky to live in an area with good O2 3G coverage.
Good testing though, mate. I was quite shocked to see Voda was getting up to 4Mbps. That 500MB limit would be a real killer for me, though.
Vodafone is completely useless in my area, they took down the mast when they destroyed the old Peugeot plant across from my house.
3 is not bad, always get a 3G signal apart from in the town centre.
But Orange is the best for me, and I'm not saying that because I work for them, I always get a good 3G signal and fast speeds.
I currently have my iPhone 4 with Tesco and the signal is so weird, one minute you get full 3G, then nothing (that's without enforcing the death grip).
Can you please post your speedtest.net results here, I am curious about orange, but im really intrested in what DVC 1985 said, as several other users have reported shocking performance on giff gaff, I will post my speed test when I get a chance.
BTW speedtest provide a url to your results that you can just copy and paste here.
One thing you might want to know:
Vodafone are trialling 14mbps mobile data later this year, the kind of speeds that the GS2 was built for, and currently the only phone in the UK capable of using these speeds.
Get a Sim Only contract from them to get 1gb of mobile data.
Mr_Mjolnir said:
One thing you might want to know:
Vodafone are trialling 14mbps mobile data later this year, the kind of speeds that the GS2 was built for, and currently the only phone in the UK capable of using these speeds.
Get a Sim Only contract from them to get 1gb of mobile data.
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That is cool to know, but they already won in my test on performance, maybe they should redirect some of the funds away from increasing performance and more to increasing coverage !
PS I doubt they will allow 14 mbps on their phone sims, I bet it will be restricted to the broadband dongles, I know o2 dongles get better results than I posted earlier.
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That is cool to know, but they already won in my test on performance, maybe they should redirect some of the funds away from increasing performance and more to increasing coverage !
PS I doubt they will allow 14 mbps on their phone sims, I bet it will be restricted to the broadband dongles, I know o2 dongles get better results than I posted earlier.
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Pretty sure they will allow it on phone, the number of phones that will actually be able to use that speed will be small so it won't matter too much. The current dongles can already use up to 14mbps, but the realistic max. is 10.8(both stated on the dongle box), and of course the real-world max will be around 7.2, which is what most phones can currently use.
AFAIK there is no limit imposed on the sims, and no plans to add any, but of course the realistic speeds are never the maximum possible.
well with att and my current SGS1 i get 6.5mbps on speedtest.net, and have actually personally seen download speeds of 9300kbps using TubeMate
Network 3 have been awesome since I joined
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I live in Belfast and Vodafone is the best for data here. 3G availability widely and it's pretty fast. Used my mate's o2 Desire yesterday (compared to my girlfriend's VF Desire) and I ran out of patience with it.
As promised here is an example speedtest with 3, it surprised me too
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Im jealous of 6.5 mbps, it's also nice to see confirmation about o2, it wasn't just me, I might publish my findings in other parts of the forum as it does not only apply to samsung galaxy s'
Edit as promised more speedtest proof
This is o2 payg with full signal strength in west london I repeated the test several times as I couldn't believe my eyes
Edit more from speedtest this time I have managed to borrow a virgin contract sim (uses T-Mobile) same as the o2 test west London full signal
was with o2. their speed are terrible around my area less then 0.5 mbps. now i am considering three, they have very good 3g coverage and best of all their AYCE data.
I would also like to vouch for Orange. The speed appears to vary depending on the signal rather than the network as a whole. For example in central london I was getting super fast 3g (streaming live sport and even tethering it to the laptop to get live sport) but in Northampton the 3g was quite slow. In Leicester the 3G is moderately quick but in some areas (despite being in the centre of the city) I didin't get 3g at all.
So in conclusion its the network coverage that varies rather than any kind of cap or poor service network wide.
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I would also like to vouch for Orange. The speed appears to vary depending on the signal rather than the network as a whole. For example in central london I was getting super fast 3g (streaming live sport and even tethering it to the laptop to get live sport) but in Northampton the 3g was quite slow. In Leicester the 3G is moderately quick but in some areas (despite being in the centre of the city) I didin't get 3g at all.
So in conclusion its the network coverage that varies rather than any kind of cap or poor service network wide.
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Fair comment, maybe I was to quick to dismiss orange, I already knew t mobile was pants, please post up speed test results.
Yea I just gave my subjective opinion so I'll put up the speed tests in the next week or so (I'm away at the mo)
Oh and I meant to ask - was there a particular thread you were referring to about the poor t-mobile/orange data?
benjatt said:
Yea I just gave my subjective opinion so I'll put up the speed tests in the next week or so (I'm away at the mo)
Oh and I meant to ask - was there a particular thread you were referring to about the poor t-mobile/orange data?
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Yes it's the thread where a group of forum members on here have managed to prove that t-mobile are supplying heavily reduced data performance unless you phone them up and twist there arm into enabling pda data rates on your sim.
I can't remember where the thread is though !
I was on O2 for 3 years until a month ago and I took their data speeds for granted.
In central London I was getting 3-4mbps solid no problems.
Went onto T-Mobile, the mast for which is pretty much next to the O2 one, best I could ever get is about 1.5mbps, averaging about 500-700kbps in exactly the same place. That was after ringing them several times to get the bloody 300kbps speed cap taken off.
I miss O2 and their overpriced contracts.
renegade1488 said:
I was on O2 for 3 years until a month ago and I took their data speeds for granted.
In central London I was getting 3-4mbps solid no problems.
Went onto T-Mobile, the mast for which is pretty much next to the O2 one, best I could ever get is about 1.5mbps, averaging about 500-700kbps in exactly the same place. That was after ringing them several times to get the bloody 300kbps speed cap taken off.
I miss O2 and their overpriced contracts.
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from what your saying, it seems that contract O2 performs much better than PAYG O2, I guess this is poissible as contract phones use the apn mobile.o2.co.uk and PAYG is payandgo.o2.co.uk, this would allow them to split their service ? if any peeps on here are on contract O2 please post your speedtest results.
im having a chat with o2 right now heres part of the conversation as im looking to get the sgs2 with them
You: sorry thats allowance i get allowances i work for talktalk broadband, what im looking for is download speeds
Shelley: Speeds of up to 21Mb per second.
Shelley: That better?
You: that hsdpa+?
Shelley: HSDPA. not +
Shelley: Would you like a link for all of the information you need?
You: yeh thanks, is that available on the mobile phone side? i know the dongles are faster, i know the sgs2 can support higher speeds but as far as i knew most networks actual speeds were upto 10meg, with only voda uk trialing 14meg later in the year, can you tell what speeds id get in my cell location
You: 3 tell me i can get 4meg
Shelley: Let me check for you.
Shelley: What i can make you aware is at the moment O2 is trialing a 4G network up and down the country, with estimated speeds of over 30MB/s. So you can expect massive speeds through this handset.
Shelley: How does that sound for you?
You: yeh wow thats cool
Shelley: Excellent!
theyre erecting a new mast near me yay lol - o2 = 4g = jizz lol
StickyGeko said:
im having a chat with o2 right now heres part of the conversation as im looking to get the sgs2 with them
You: sorry thats allowance i get allowances i work for talktalk broadband, what im looking for is download speeds
Shelley: Speeds of up to 21Mb per second.
Shelley: That better?
You: that hsdpa+?
Shelley: HSDPA. not +
Shelley: Would you like a link for all of the information you need?
You: yeh thanks, is that available on the mobile phone side? i know the dongles are faster, i know the sgs2 can support higher speeds but as far as i knew most networks actual speeds were upto 10meg, with only voda uk trialing 14meg later in the year, can you tell what speeds id get in my cell location
You: 3 tell me i can get 4meg
Shelley: Let me check for you.
Shelley: What i can make you aware is at the moment O2 is trialing a 4G network up and down the country, with estimated speeds of over 30MB/s. So you can expect massive speeds through this handset.
Shelley: How does that sound for you?
You: yeh wow thats cool
Shelley: Excellent!
theyre erecting a new mast near me yay lol - o2 = 4g = jizz lol
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lol gota love o2 chat ...... this is hilarious
Shelley: Are you not thinking of getting this today and getting rid if Orange?
Shelley: They are not very good as a provider, they ripped me off. And i am not just saying that because i work for 02, i do not like them at all!
You: yes ive had enough with orange to be honest, too many dropped calls and incorrect bills, they gave me a gesture of goodwill of £50 a month or 2 back because the kept incorrectly billing me
Shelley: They broke their contract with me and wouldn't help me with a broken handset,
Shelley: Yes, same with me and over charging and i got a lot of bank charges which weren't in my account and so i was getting charges left right and centre for a handset i couldn't even use! So i told them to stick it!
You: not good, lol hahaha
As the Thread title suggests, i would like to know what the best UK network for the S2 is? I have an order on hold with orange at the moment for £35p/m
after screening the forums a little bit it seems that orange isnt the best network provider to go with, because although coverage is great, their network speeds are rubbish...what would you guys recommend in terms of best network provider for this phone?
ps bear in mind i am in the london and braintree areas quite a lot
the million pound question??. Am O2 I think internet speed rubbish I have never seen 3g icon on my screen lol
as far as i have been able to read, vodaphone seem to utilize the s2's networking capabilities best,
reading on the general section, i found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14400787&postcount=30
in the thread "SGS2 now available on orange UK"
which made me wonder - three mobile seem to have good deals for cheapness....£26pm gets you a free phone, 1gb data, unlim texts etc, so i would go for them, however the network speed is something i have recently been coveting....anyone had any speedtests done while on three?
Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
Lennyuk said:
Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
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im jealous i must admit, but what about networking speeds? or do you cope just fine with the speeds as they are? this phone is capable of loading faster than most home broadbands if i believe what iv been told...i cant tell what speeds i have as my hd2 wont connect to the internet - hardware issue :/
Lennyuk said:
Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
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Thpefial? (Sorry - couldn't resist...)
Best network is relative to signal strength in the areas of phone use for each network .
Data its always said that 3 are best for data true not a clue .
http://selfhelp.carphonewarehouse.com/SelfHelp/request.do?view%28%29=c{179c7460-e8a9-11de-da00-000000000000}
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Three are the only network that offer truly unlimited data on the one plan with a free phone for £40 I think. I've seen my mate's speedtest with a Desire HD consistently hitting 9+ mb the past month as they've activated the HSPA+ network. Three's signal is crap indoors though, due to the part of the spectrum they use not penetrating buildings well (so I'm told).
I'm on O2 (central London), I'm guaranteed H or H+ signals, consistently above 3 mbps.
Well, if you care about heavy duty data usage, go with 3 (So long as you're in an area with decent signal - it gets a bit ropy up north).
I'm with 3UK, purely for the genuinely unlimited data (although I've been with them for years and always went over the 1gb limit without charge before), in London their speeds are great, usually have a ping under 100, down of 3-5 in perfect conditions, up of 1-1.5 (via the SpeedTest app)
I will say in the area i live (oxfordshie) 3 is exelent,i get hsdpa just about every where. I get 5700 on speed test app at work-on vodafone and orange i get 20
three mobile it is then i will go to the three store and pick it up (because i cannot wait for it to be delivered lol) once i get my new bank card and PIN code through
Yup, I'm on Three also and whilst their results vary (I get anywhere from 0.11 to 5.14Mbps Download speed here in Cumbria!) the main selling point for me is truly unlimited data on the One Plan with tethering allowed! There may be others offering true unlimited data (talkmobile? Giff Gaff?) but I don't think others allow tethering... I should note they acknowledge that they throttle their data at peek times (6pm to midnight) but I'd be surprised if other networks don't do the same, and my data speeds are generally fine.
I'm on 3 and its crap indoors. Do get 3g a lot. I buy the fone instead of contract because u pay for another fone as the contracts are like 2 year plans. Im on a SIM contract for 15 quid and get 600mins 1 gb internet 3000texts which is good but hate the signal
I was with three but dropped them because of awful building penetration, their signal is just rubbish indoors which was no good to me at work when my phone spent all day trying to cling onto a scrap of signal. I could receive texts at my desk but if I moved the phone or tryed a voice call it would drop signal altogether.
Moved to Orange, very happy now. Speeds aren't as fast as Three for data but come on, what are you doing running torrents off your phone or something?
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come on, what are you doing running torrents off your phone or something?
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Pretty much, yeah. Long commute, if someone tells me about a good film at work.. Piracy is a way of life
I'm currently using Simple Mobile with $ 40 3G plan and my maximum 3G speed is 100 kbs. I know Simple Mobile is dependent on T-mobile's 3G tower but it seems Simple Mobile is slow for me.
I plan to switch to $ 50 data plan of T-mobile.
T-mobile users, what are the current maximum and minimum 3G speed of T-mobile ?
Depending on where you are, it should be a hell of a lot more than 100 kbps. T-Mo's HSPA+ areas theoretically can go up to 42 Mbps. My last few speedtests on the Vibrant (KB5 modem) in Mbps:
5.48 down 1.33 up
5.42 down 1.61 up
6.18 down, .41 up
3.98 down, .66 up
5.09 down, .38 up
3.90 down, 1.30 up
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Depending on where you are, it should be a hell of a lot more than 100 kbps. T-Mo's HSPA+ areas theoretically can go up to 42 Mbps. My last few speedtests on the Vibrant (KB5 modem) in Mbps:
5.48 down 1.33 up
5.42 down 1.61 up
6.18 down, .41 up
3.98 down, .66 up
5.09 down, .38 up
3.90 down, 1.30 up
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84 coming out next year
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
T-Mobile averages around 1-3 MBPS for me, and Simple Mobile always averages around 100 KBPS for me as well.
mrsbelpit said:
Depending on where you are, it should be a hell of a lot more than 100 kbps. T-Mo's HSPA+ areas theoretically can go up to 42 Mbps. My last few speedtests on the Vibrant (KB5 modem) in Mbps:
5.48 down 1.33 up
5.42 down 1.61 up
6.18 down, .41 up
3.98 down, .66 up
5.09 down, .38 up
3.90 down, 1.30 up
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what's the advantage and disadvantage in using KB5 modem?
does KB5 modem increase 3G speeds in my simple mobile?
I too have let my contract expire with T-Mobile and went on with Simple Mobile, However I haven't seen any real difference between the two, meaning that T-Mobile was always slow for me and no matter what modems or configurations I tried, I never got the speed that others here are saying we should be getting.
Simple Mobile is using the same bandwidth as T-Mobile, because it is T-Mobile, so unless there was throttling or bandwidth restrictions that T-Mobile is implementing, based on the royalties or amount they pay T-mobile!!
Technically It should be the same as what the T-Mobile customers are getting, and In my case, I'm still getting the same ole slow assed data, that I had before when I was paying alot more to T-Mobile, I've been looking for a Holly Grail of tweaks, that might get my phone into the data performance I know Its capable of, but as of this moment, and after all this time, its still no better than Dial up, the only difference is I'm paying alot less than I was with TM.
Would love to find tweaks or configurations for my T959, that opens it up to some serious speed. And No I never DL anything enough month to month wise, to have them impose a CAP. But I'm so used to lag and poor performance, and the fact, that I wont ever go back to a CDMA provider again, So I'm stuck, unless I switch providers, like ATT which is serious $$, otherwise It would mean, putting my Vibrant in mothballs, And I love this phone, It takes the burden of running a laptop I used to need, to do the very same things I now accomplish with this phone, and simplifying my life, but with slow speed= Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!
Im also really interested to know!
Ok first thing first.
Both Tmobile and Simple Mobile does not provide unlimited 3g,
Tmobile (prepaid service that i use for 50 a month, a plan of relevance to the OP), provides 200mb of 3g service,
in this case, i would get 3mb speed, yet after the 200mb, they limit your service to 100 kbp range,
I have never used simple moblie before but i believe they use the same tower and provide more data, 2gig, and also cheaper,
so can someone tell me what varied data speed one would get for simple?
within 2 gig and after the capped data speed, thanx
hayabusa129 said:
Ok first thing first.
Both Tmobile and Simple Mobile does not provide unlimited 3g,
Tmobile (prepaid service that i use for 50 a month, a plan of relevance to the OP), provides 200mb of 3g service,
in this case, i would get 3mb speed, yet after the 200mb, they limit your service to 100 kbp range,
I have never used simple moblie before but i believe they use the same tower and provide more data, 2gig, and also cheaper,
so can someone tell me what varied data speed one would get for simple?
within 2 gig and after the capped data speed, thanx
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I personally have been with simple for about a yr on both 4g and 3g speeds capped and uncapped
usually after you tether usb or wifi they will throttle you like almost that week and wont even know unless u call to be like wth
4g speeds are about the same as t-mobile
3g speeds are about 0.12Mbps even after changing from JK6 testing with different build props KA7 with different build props and even KB5 with different build props
For the most part i have been on these roms
Lithium/revamped/SS series by nickmcminn60
and lately the ICS series by neobuddy
unlocking
I just gotten a SIM for simple mobile, Know I am wondering being that i am on ICS Passion am i going to be needing to unlock my phone? I put the SIM in and it did not ask me to enter a password or anything. Thanks for any help
No need to unlock because its under T-Mobile go to your simple mobile apn change proxy to
216.155.165.50 for data and save
Open T-Mobile apn and match every field like all the fields in your simple mobile apn except these changes
Simple MMS - apn
simple - name
216.155.165.050 - proxy
8080 - port
These settings are to send and receive pictures mms
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Defdealr said:
No need to unlock because its under T-Mobile go to your simple mobile apn change proxy to
216.155.165.50 for data and save
Open T-Mobile apn and match every field like all the fields in your simple mobile apn except these changes
Simple MMS - apn
simple - name
216.155.165.050 - proxy
8080 - port
These settings are to send and receive pictures mms
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THANK YOU !!! sorry for screaming thank you lol
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To those simple mobile users with $ 40 monthly plan:
Will your 3G speed (128 kbs) will be lowered after you reach 2 GB ?
I have had both T-Mobile and Simple Mobile. I have a MyTouch 3GS and Vibrant. When on T-Mobile I usually was able to get ~1500 kbs however was paying $100/month for unlimited everything with a 5GB data throttle. After switching to Simple Mobile I am capped at ~120 kbs on either phone. My 3GS is running the latest CM7 nightly and my Vibrant is running ICS Passion 10.6. I have read on other forums that some users have complained to Simple Mobile and the support tech "reset" their internet and after, they received the download speeds closer to T-Mobile. I have contacted support twice and have yet to get that lucky. I mostly use WiFi therefore am happy with the $60/month saving.
3g?
I just moved to Simple mobile $40 plan. Their 3g speed is lower than t-mobile's 2g speed. On t-mobile 2g i had 130kbps and now on 3g I have 117kbps. Why they call it 3g speed plan.
Check out straight talk for 45 a month.. Just don't think it's unlimited data.
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if simple mobile gave at LEAST 1mbps d/l speeds, I'd switch to them.. I had them before and their data speeds are nearly unusable.. I heard their 4G plan gives great speed, but I can't afford that..
Have you try the $30 pre paid, Tmobile plan, give you 100 minutes, unlimited text, 5gb high speed (4g) data, then throttle down until renewal date,
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So guys, here is my story so far.
I have been on Tmobile contract for a while and decided to switch to a Prepay plan. The "unlimited" plans offered by t mobile are overpriced(+highly throttled) so I looked else where.
I am currently using simple mobile, which started with the 40$ plan. Soon after I noticed that the 40$ unlimited plan was highly throttled to about 140kbs and had to switch to the 60$.
With the bill almost doubling and simple mobiles piece of crap* service, I did some research and found out that straight talk was coming out with a 45$ truly unlimited plan with no throttling for at&t and tmobile. Now I havn't used it yet but ordered the tmobile sim card. I have heard great things about the at&t $45 plan and will switch after this month is over.
http://slickdeals.net/f/3898068-Straight-Talk-to-Allow-Any-GSM-Phone-on-the-45-Unlimited-Plan
shaolinx said:
So guys, here is my story so far.
I have been on Tmobile contract for a while and decided to switch to a Prepay plan. The "unlimited" plans offered by t mobile are overpriced(+highly throttled) so I looked else where.
I am currently using simple mobile, which started with the 40$ plan. Soon after I noticed that the 40$ unlimited plan was highly throttled to about 140kbs and had to switch to the 60$.
With the bill almost doubling and simple mobiles piece of crap* service, I did some research and found out that straight talk was coming out with a 45$ truly unlimited plan with no throttling for at&t and tmobile. Now I havn't used it yet but ordered the tmobile sim card. I have heard great things about the at&t $45 plan and will switch after this month is over.
http://slickdeals.net/f/3898068-Straight-Talk-to-Allow-Any-GSM-Phone-on-the-45-Unlimited-Plan
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Will you please give a review about Straight-Talk next month? Is that $45 tax-included?
Thank you.
Hi,
This isn't phone related but Im hoping someone could still help me?
I signed up to my phone provider on the understanding that i would get 7.2mbps. I know this is always "up to" but i have only been able to get on average 0.3mbps. I realise there are factors like signal strength and network coverage etc but i have done some tests with 7 other people on the same provider and they get equally poor speeds. I have done many tests from different locations and they are all poor.
So can anyone tell me what the deal is with "up to 7.2mbps" ? Can they provide 20 times less speed 0.3 mbps and still claim "up to 7.2mbps"? Is this sufficient to get out of my contract?
I did some tests from another network provider at the same time and they were running at 4.5mbps.
0.3mbps is painfully slow and simply not worth having
Im in Britain, are there any regulations that govern this "up to" business? 2 months and always less than 0.5mbps, rubbish!!
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If other people around you are also having poor speed, then there's nothing you can do. Your provider's network simply sucks and you're better off subscribing somewhere else.
Yeh those speeds are what i should be getting
And yes clearly the network provider doesn't have enough capacity, but Im locked in for 10 more months :s - in fact their helpdesk told me the network was at capacity, but as far as Im concerned that's not my problem and not what Im paying for, but the point is... Can i dump them with 10 months left?
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Now this may not be the case with you but if it is T-Mob or Orange UK or some other UK networks then the thread below may enlighten you. This may not apply to other countries but does apply to third party contract purchases and most new T-Mobile purchases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823302&highlight=crippled
sgs2_user said:
Hi,
This isn't phone related but Im hoping someone could still help me?
I signed up to my phone provider on the understanding that i would get 7.2mbps. I know this is always "up to" but i have only been able to get on average 0.3mbps. I realise there are factors like signal strength and network coverage etc but i have done some tests with 7 other people on the same provider and they get equally poor speeds. I have done many tests from different locations and they are all poor.
So can anyone tell me what the deal is with "up to 7.2mbps" ? Can they provide 20 times less speed 0.3 mbps and still claim "up to 7.2mbps"? Is this sufficient to get out of my contract?
I did some tests from another network provider at the same time and they were running at 4.5mbps.
0.3mbps is painfully slow and simply not worth having
Im in Britain, are there any regulations that govern this "up to" business? 2 months and always less than 0.5mbps, rubbish!!
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Some people have gotten out of there fixed line broadband contracts due to misleading "upto" ratings, but not mobile broadband as far as I know, the T&C's normally say that they guarantee nothing, not even signal. Its a shame. 3UK have good speeds, but whenever I try to tether it lags all to ****, and they ALLOW you to tether.
Im pretty sure there networks just mega overloaded, there's lots of nights where my upload speed is higher than my download, meaning the backhall to the tower doesn't have enough bandwidth.
Tehpriest said:
Now this may not be the case with you but if it is T-Mob or Orange UK or some other UK networks then the thread below may enlighten you. This may not apply to other countries but does apply to third party contract purchases and most new T-Mobile purchases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823302&highlight=crippled
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Reading through your thread just made me sick! I don't care how they put it but you can't call those speeds 3g!
Just as ISPs can't call dial-up speeds / latency
Luckily T-Mobile increased their speed cap for 3rd parties to 1mb.. But, wait for it, if you go direct you get a whole whopping 2mb!!! Wow!!
Put it this way.. I'm never getting another T-Mobile contract, you should see the speeds you get with 3 (UK)
Thanks for the links and advice. Its a good point, should go find the t&c's and nail it down.
My phone and contract are supplied as one from a supposedly reputable Telco. So my guess is that they have oversubscribed on their network and hoped no one would notice... That ain't gonna fly
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Ouch. I thought I was getting good internet speed on T-Mobile UK on my S2 but after doing a speedtest I'm barely getting 1mb down and 0.5mb up :-/
When my phone, on 3UK kicks into gear (H+) and the network isnt lagging to hell I get.
433kBps down 207kBps up (The bytes per second) aka 3.39Mbps/1.62Mbps
Does the modem version of the phone relate to this matter?
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zincsnow said:
Does the modem version of the phone relate to this matter?
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Yes modem is one of the biggest on phone factors in connection strength and speed.
I phoned up to cancel my contract because of the problems and they said i had to go to the shop to find out what was going on. I did that and they told me they were unaware of any issues. Denial! And there is a new cell going up to"this week"... Really... Well we'll see
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Ok I used to be demon man and had a htc hd2 if you go in there and look for the thread "virgin now has the htc hd2" right at the end there is a few of us who escaped our contracts because of there pittyfull internet speeds i cant find it to hand ill have another look for you to read through
Edit.
Have a read through the next couple pages. I found the right page just start from post number 118 mate hopefully this may shed some light to help you get out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=615643&page=12
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Thanks mate, will have a good read in the morning
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I love the EVO LTE but the 3G speeds I'm experiencing are abysmal. I can get a carrier pigeon to move this fast. Pathetic Sprint, just pathetic...
And your question is? you posted this in the Q&A
shook187 said:
And your question is? you posted this in the Q&A
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How do I get a decent speed?
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Everyone knew or should of known before getting the phone that lte was not up yet and you would be on the 3G network.
If your sales person didn't tell you this then I would take it up with your salesperson. If you bought the phone online then sorry about your luck, lesson learned. ( Hopefully )
Either way don't knock Sprint for something they have made clear. It was never stated to have 4G WiMax. Only 3G and lte when available.
Better speed.....wait for lte.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672123
here is another link from a quick search
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/boost-the-speed-of-your-evos-3g-and-get-your-music-faster/
Hope that helps some
blkout01 said:
Everyone knew or should of known before getting the phone that lte was not up yet and you would be on the 3G network.
If your sales person didn't tell you this then I would take it up with your salesperson. If you bought the phone online then sorry about your luck, lesson learned. ( Hopefully )
Either way don't knock Sprint for something they have made clear. It was never stated to have 4G WiMax. Only 3G and lte when available.
Better speed.....wait for lte.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672123
here is another link from a quick search
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/boost-the-speed-of-your-evos-3g-and-get-your-music-faster/
Hope that helps some
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that is abysmal for 3G speeds I think was his point. Everyone is anxiously awaiting for network vision/LTE so we no longer have to deal with Sprints horrific 3G network
browning said:
How do I get a decent speed?
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You brought the EVO LTE thinking you might get decent 3g speeds? I'm sure you're smarter then that or am I giving you to much credit? This is an old subject we should be discussed somewhere else.
I completely knew what I was getting. However, I did not expect slower 3G than I had with the OF EVO. Nor .MMS that don't download. LTE will be here soon but I'd like just a but of utility out of 3G...
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All you guys complaining about 3g speed ever heard of the Network Vision?
BE PATIENT. Sprint is in the process of improving their entire network. You may not see the improvements yet, but trust me they are working on it.
I live in Aurora, CO and there are two towers here that are as opposite as night and day. One is totally bogged down and speeds are 200 kbps Down and 200 kbps Up with 400 ping. About 3 miles away, another tower gives me 1200 kbps down and 800 kbps up with 100 ping.
They are working on it, just have patience.
bighuta said:
All you guys complaining about 3g speed ever heard of the Network Vision?
BE PATIENT. Sprint is in the process of improving their entire network. You may not see the improvements yet, but trust me they are working on it.
I live in Aurora, CO and there are two towers here that are as opposite as night and day. One is totally bogged down and speeds are 200 kbps Down and 200 kbps Up with 400 ping. About 3 miles away, another tower gives me 1200 kbps down and 800 kbps up with 100 ping.
They are working on it, just have patience.
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I've been patient with Sprint for over 12 years. I get that it is coming. The point is 3G is worse now than it was with the OG. And this is with new towers on 3G in the area. Simply pathetic especially considering I work and live next to a major international airport and large technology corridor.
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Push *2
Dial
Update PRL
Repeat (i had to do two updates)
Speedtest again. Betcha ur speed is way better.
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newfireorange said:
Push *2
Dial
Update PRL
Repeat (i had to do two updates)
Speedtest again. Betcha ur speed is way better.
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I've updated each PRL released. No better...
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OP: well, if you're so upset about current 3g speeds and aren't willing to wait a little more, then please feel free to hop over to verizon or ever ATT. No one's stopping you.
Good luck, have fun.
bighuta said:
OP: well, if you're so upset about current 3g speeds and aren't willing to wait a little more, then please feel free to hop over to verizon or ever ATT. No one's stopping you.
Good luck, have fun.
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I like Sprint. The whole point is speeds seem worse with the EVOLTE than on the old device. It is either an issue with the EVOLTE or the network is getting worse rather than better.
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The problem is that most people, including myself actually have better 3G speeds with the newer radio technology on the LTE compared to older generation smartphones.
Refer to this thread for more opinions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671214
bighuta said:
The problem is that most people, including myself actually have better 3G speeds with the newer radio technology on the LTE compared to older generation smartphones.
Refer to this thread for more opinions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671214
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That's what I don't get. I have read how people are doing better yet I'm about as bad as it can get in almost every area I try.
browning said:
That's what I don't get. I have read how people are doing better yet I'm about as bad as it can get in almost every area I try.
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You could always call the Sprint direct customer service line, 877-775-4886, and make a formal complaint about said speeds. See if they can give you some freebies if not some information regarding the Network Vision roll-out in your local area. Who knows, they might throw in some credit or something.
bighuta said:
You could always call the Sprint direct customer service line, 877-775-4886, and make a formal complaint about said speeds. See if they can give you some freebies if not some information regarding the Network Vision roll-out in your local area. Who knows, they might throw in some credit or something.
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That might be my best bet. I was cool with 3G on the OG - hardly ever used WiMax since it was so spotty. I am simply at a loss for how this is playing out when everyone else seems to be having much better luck.
My 3g speeds are about the same as they were on my og evo, and most of the time they suck. The part that really sucks for me is that I might notice that my speeds are really slow and run a speed test, and confirm it, then an hour, or day later, the speed might be flying.
As an example, I just ran a speed test because it seemed slow, I got 203 kbps down and 506 kbps up. Yesterday I noticed it seemed faster than normal, so I did a speed test from my desk at work, the same location as the test I just did today. I got 2389 kbps down and 925 kbps up, by far the fastest I have ever seen it here.
At home I rarely see speeds over 100 kbps, yet just the other day I got about 1000 kbps down there. The bottom line for me is, I wouldn't care if the speeds weren't great if they were just consistent. It sucks when I need to do something quick and the data connection is crawling, which is the case more often than not.
I had a problem right out of the box. My ping was over 800 and was getting under 100 down. Weird thing wad that up was at like 300. I had this problem with my 3# so I called sprint and asked for my msl. Enter ##72786#. Enter your msl and then go to menu reset. It will reactivate. My speeds went up to over 1000. Worth a shot for u guys. Interesting sidenote... When I called in the tech told me to power down the phone and remove the battery. I let him know that these phones don't have removable batteries. Amazing that some techs don't even know about their flagship devices...
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brandonb8 said:
I had a problem right out of the box. My ping was over 800 and was getting under 100 down. Weird thing wad that up was at like 300. I had this problem with my 3# so I called sprint and asked for my msl. Enter ##72786#. Enter your msl and then go to menu reset. It will reactivate. My speeds went up to over 1000. Worth a shot for u guys. Interesting sidenote... When I called in the tech told me to power down the phone and remove the battery. I let him know that these phones don't have removable batteries. Amazing that some techs don't even know about their flagship devices...
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I ran that and updated profile and PRL again and I see some improvement. Sprint acknowledged an outage but it sounds like it covers Baltimore, DC and VA which doesn't narrow much for me. It is also off peak hours so we'll see how it works tomorrow. Regardless, thanks for the code.