Atrix is supposed to be 1 GB RAM
When i run Android System Info app, I see RAM Max : 818MB
Also When i Choose Settings > Applications > Running Services,
I see Used and Available Memory Indicated. Total do not count to 1GB and is always around 600 MB?
Also CPU information from Android System Info shows as ARMv7 (1GHZ)
Is there any other App that gives complete System information of Device Hardware?
http://goo.gl/Lsojw
WiredPirate said:
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This app is really useful, besides it is still not going to give answer to sakdroid's question. On my Atrix also it shows about 850MB memory in total. If I am not wrong, you can never see the actual RAM or Storage size, there is always buffer system will keep aside, which is never available for use. But as it says 850MB, that means it is 1GB.
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Hi guys,
I have a serious doubt that s740 has 256MB. I think that OS only thinks that way. These are the arguments for my doubt :
1. I have an application that shows message box with question before it closes. Usually when OS notices that system is low on memory it starts to close applications. Sometimes while this application is in background, message box pops up (not because I tried to close it, OS obviously thinks it is low on memory)
2. I have never seen significantly less than 100MB of free RAM in any applications that shows that information
3. I created an application that loads some text files into a memory. I started it when my device was close to a 100MB of free RAM. Very soon I got OutOfMemoryException although I had 100MB of RAM left!!
4. Once I bought 32GB SD card from eBay. After a test I figure it out that card was 4GB although it appeared to any PC it was 32GB. I saw on the some forums that I was not the only one with that problem. Many face the same when buying SD card from eBay and China. Point of this...it is possible to alter memory controller in order to trick the system.
If there is anyone who saw in any task manager or something less than 100MB of free RAM, please report it here. Also if you know some way we can be sure that there really is 256MB of RAM on our devices please let us know.
I got less than 100MB free RAM ...
Yep, me too
.-ombre-.
ombre33 said:
Yep, me too
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Actually you don't.
On your screendump you can see clearly "0.12G" (about 120 MB) free from a totall of 0.18G
peseta said:
Actually you don't.
On your screendump you can see clearly "0.12G" (about 120 MB) free from a totall of 0.18G
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Actually, I do.
.12G is used, 61mb free, which comes to a total of .18G
.-ombre-.
Not wanting to nitpick (as the issue mentioned at the start is the question if there's really the advertised 256 MB RAM, which actually appears to be 187 MB), but you're reading the Resco System Info incorrectly.
As you can see on your screendump, your 16 GB (14.83G) storage card is almost full (red bar, 97%) with only about "0.40G" available. This is shown on the right side, just like the ".12G" or about 120 MB.
Whoops, you're right. My bad. I'd suspect that the "missing" mbs are taken up by the os itself? either way, I have yet to run into an out of memory error on this device, and i have constantly up to 5 progs running in the background...
.-ombre-.
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Not wanting to nitpick (as the issue mentioned at the start is the question if there's really the advertised 256 MB RAM, which actually appears to be 187 MB), but you're reading the Resco System Info incorrectly.
As you can see on your screendump, your 16 GB (14.83G) storage card is almost full (red bar, 97%) with only about "0.40G" available. This is shown on the right side, just like the ".12G" or about 120 MB.
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callah said:
1. I have an application that shows message box with question before it closes. Usually when OS notices that system is low on memory it starts to close applications. Sometimes while this application is in background, message box pops up (not because I tried to close it, OS obviously thinks it is low on memory)
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The way OS handles automatic closing of application is rather complicated and does not depend on free memory only.
callah said:
3. I created an application that loads some text files into a memory. I started it when my device was close to a 100MB of free RAM. Very soon I got OutOfMemoryException although I had 100MB of RAM left!!
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Windows Mobile 6.1 is still based on Windows CE 5 core, which allows 32MB of memory per process (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_ce#Versions). Bear in mind that you are also using .NET, which in itself is a bit memory-hungry.
All-in-all I think that device has as much memory as advertised and see no reason why it shouldn't.
BTW my s740 has an 128MB of RAM ('not for sale' version)
CPU
CPU Frequency
RAM
Program memory: OS
Program memory
Memory in use
So maybe some of the Roses can be with 128MB only
...When I used my s710 (64MB of RAM) I had a free RAM value about 10MB. Now my s740 with 128MB of RAM but free RAM value still about 10MB. Very very strange
Hello,
Someone know why any Task Killer show wrong free memory other than the Running Process of the phone itself?
I suspect you may be referring to the fact that the SGS2 shares it's main memory with the GPU, resulting in the total ram available to android being lower than the advertised 1Gb. Don't worry, that's normal.
If not, you'll have to provide some more details on your question.
Also, Task Killers are generally considered to be very bad news.
Google around, or read this: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them If you want more information.
Basically, they can cause all manner of pain and on a modern device like the SGS2, they're completely unnecessary.
As far as i know it's hard disk manufacturer rate there drivers similar to RAM
Actual:
1MB = 1024Bytes
1GB = 1024MB = 1024 X 1024 = 1,048,576 Bytes
Manufacturer size:
1MB = 1000Bytes
1GB = 1000MB
So
1,000,000 / 1,048,576 = 953.67MB
In the device itself under Running process it shows free and used ram
the sum of those numbers are 724MB(Used: 230MB Free: 494MB)
Android System info shows:
Max: 838MB Free: 507MB
Quick System info pro:
Total: 839MB Free: 508MB Idle: 254MB
Smart System info:
Total: 838MB Free:432MB
All above checked one after the other
There is any common sense?
About the task killers can I use Memory Booster instead? or it's unnecessary?
Hmm.. this!
Android phones do not need task killers, android is based on linux and linux manages memory very well in comparison to say Windows, if it leaves something open it is doing so because it is better for it to be left open, if android then needs more memory it will close applications on its own. If you start to use any task killers you will close apps when they don't need to be closed and if you or android have to re-open them it will use more cpu power and therefore more battery.
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Hey, guys!
Im bit "noob" whit android devices becouse this is my first android phone. I allways have been use nokia's phones ( cuz im from Finland ) but the latest nokia phones have been bit disappointment for me. So I bought DEFY. So about task killers. I have used many of those and I have been thinking why my device have been so slow and laggy.. so I googled what is the best task killer and I found that android actually don't need task killer/manager. And then I uninstall my task killer (TasKiller) and reboot my phone and now its not laggy or slow at all!
So I would say don't use any of task killers or managers.
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This is not answering my question , i read what undave posted.
I ask about memory booster and about RAM Issue
With the exception of some which mess with swappyness, most memory boosters generally work exactly the same way as a task killer.
Seriously, you have a smartphone with 1Gb of ram, you really don't need to do anything to optimise memory usage. Android really is very good at this all by itself.
Regarding the available ram: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980958
Why if writes 1 GB of RAM on my phone writes 835 MB maximum in task manager?
android_888 said:
Why if writes 1 GB of RAM on my phone writes 835 MB maximum in task manager?
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Hey.
Thats coz' android system uses piece of RAM and task manager shows you only aviable memory.
Sorry, for my bad english
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Well, we all know the ray has 512 MB of RAM built in. But if you use tools like Android Assistant, it tells you you can only use about 332 MB of it. I searched in other forums and found out, the "hidden" part of the RAM is reserved for the gpu. My question now: is there a way to reallocate the RAM and get some of the reserved available for user apps? Because i constantly get freezes wit oom.
I dont how to do it , but i am also disappoint when i saw ray has only 315+ RAM , sony site says ray has 512 MB
I am sure if we try to re allocate it we will get problems , why not you try cyanogenmod ?
it is faster and less RAM intensive
i am running on cyanogenmod 7.2 , but if i use launchers like spb shell 3d , my free ram, even at reboot, max caps at 110 mb. thats nothing.
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Well, we all know the ray has 512 MB of RAM built in. But if you use tools like Android Assistant, it tells you you can only use about 332 MB of it. I searched in other forums and found out, the "hidden" part of the RAM is reserved for the gpu. My question now: is there a way to reallocate the RAM and get some of the reserved available for user apps? Because i constantly get freezes wit oom.
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i think is possible but it will be worst! most of the phone speed is given by the gpu (example samsung galaxy ace has 800MHz but lower gpu alocated memory and the phone speed is a disaster)
I think the only way to 'gain' some extra RAM is enabling SWAP.
On my old samsung, I once had a swap partition of 256 to extend the memory.
The good: you have real extra ram
The bad :
-swapping is slowing down the phone, as the sd-card speed is never sufficient.
-SD-card will die sooner, as you read/write a lot to same partition.
So swapping is not advised to my opinion, and others.
Some way to make some memory free (and speed up your phone) :
Use a clean rom (like 4pda.ru) and with the "autostarts" tool, try to disable android apps that automatically try to start itself at boot, startup or other events.
I found out that a lot of android apps try to start themselves even when you plug in the power cable (google maps for example), or connectivity changed, application installed etc.
With the autostarts tool (or rom toolbox) you can influence these triggers to prevent apps to startup themselves in the background.
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When I go to Settings > Apps > Running Apps, I notice, every time, that my Xperia sola isn't showing the maximum value of my RAM (which is supposed to be nearly 500MB ). It shows almost 390MB ONLY. Then there's 110MB missing!! Where are these lost MBs?? And how can I release my device to reach all of my 500MB RAM??
Thanks.
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Hi
When I go to Settings > Apps > Running Apps, I notice, every time, that my Xperia sola isn't showing the maximum value of my RAM (which is supposed to be nearly 500MB ). It shows almost 390MB ONLY. Then there's 110MB missing!! Where are these lost MBs?? And how can I release my device to reach all of my 500MB RAM??
Thanks.
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Youre phone only has 500MB RAM you don't expect it to use some of it do you?
What exactly do you see used and free?
Missing RAM are for a part of the hardware
ChikeD said:
Youre phone only has 500MB RAM you don't expect it to use some of it do you?
What exactly do you see used and free?
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Hey, I see 291MB USED and 100MB FREE if I enter Settings > Apps > Running Apps. You can calculate easily 291+100=391. Then my device shows ONLY 391MB, not 500MB. I hope you now understand what I'm talking about.
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Hey, I see 291MB USED and 100MB FREE if I enter Settings > Apps > Running Apps. You can calculate easily 291+100=391. Then my device shows ONLY 391MB, not 500MB. I hope you now understand what I'm talking about.
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Like @Info4Geek said, some memory used by the system, for XP it's almost 200MB.
ChikeD said:
Like @Info4Geek said, some memory used by the system, for XP it's almost 200MB.
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And don't forget GPU also take ram as part of their VRAM.
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Does anybody know - why virtual space crashes while playing online game???* i use call of duty : mobile*| my ram is ~ 3 gb
i checked, when i normally play [without virtual] my free ram is :700+- [not accurately]
but when i play in virtual space,*my free ram is :500+- [not accurately]
i edited*LOW MEMORY KILLER*- VISIBLE APP to 0 mb, so that virtual doesnt crash... but yet, it crashes...*
i checked many popular & unpopular virtual... some crashes at loading point | some crashes at gaming period
does anybody have any theorical knowledge - how & why it happen??
ANY INFORMATION IS APPRECIATED
App's name is errleading, IMHO. Virtual Space (VS) is simply an app cloner what puts a copy of apps / games into an isolated / separated space in your device's storage memory. VS is a hacking tool.
VS can be considered as an Android emulator where you can launch apps from. VS itself eats some MBs of device's RAM ( as you noticed ~200MB ) because it's merely an app like any other Android app. COD eats ~1.5GB RAM. Thus running COD via VS takes at minimum ~1.7GB RAM.
My suggestion: Completely clear phone's recent list to ensure no apps are running in background.
BTW: Android OS ( depends on version ) takes ~500MB RAM.
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App's name is errleading, IMHO. Virtual Space (VS) is simply an app cloner what puts a copy of apps / games into an isolated / separated space in your device's storage memory. VS is a hacking tool.
VS can be considered as an Android emulator where you can launch apps from. VS itself eats some MBs of device's RAM ( as you noticed ~200MB ) because it's merely an app like any other Android app. COD eats ~1.5GB RAM. Thus running COD via VS takes at minimum ~1.7GB RAM.
My suggestion: Completely clear phone's recent list to ensure no apps are running in background.
BTW: Android OS ( depends on version ) takes ~500MB RAM.
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normally, when i m in home & not running anything i have 1300+- mb free...
btw another thing, i saw a thing... when the match started & i m just standing...not moving at all... then games run...
but when i move... within 5-6 second, game crash...
so, i thing this is codm protection, right?
i also tried sudohide... but no chance
nishat islam said:
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my ram is ~ 3 gb
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normally, when i m in home & not running anything i have 1300+- mb free...
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Wondering what is taking up 1.7GB RAM?
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Wondering what is taking up 1.7GB RAM?
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check these screenshot
@nishat islam
As I suspected: the memory problem is homemade, you have too many apps open.