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Anyone know where I can buy a extra battery for the TP2? I have found a couple in the UK but would rather find a seller in the US.
Part# - BA S390
Is the part# listed above the correct battery for the TP2?
Mine actually says "RHOD160" on the back of it...
I found a 1500mah battery on ebay (item# 250445669999) with a "buy it now" for $8.95.
Anyone have any experience with this "replacement" battery. If so, how does it compare with the original battery which is 1500mah also?
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I also found this 1500mah battery on ebay (item # 270409538954) with a "buy it now" for $21.99
mda71 said:
Anyone know where I can buy a extra battery for the TP2? I have found a couple in the UK but would rather find a seller in the US.
Part# - BA S390
Is the part# listed above the correct battery for the TP2?
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I just got one the day before yesterday from HTC Care(Hong Kong)
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mda71 said:
Anyone know where I can buy a extra battery for the TP2? I have found a couple in the UK but would rather find a seller in the US.
Part# - BA S390
Is the part# listed above the correct battery for the TP2?
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I stick with genuine batteries now as I had a bad experience with after market batteries. My TyTN2 has issues turning on, and randomly turns off - even after I put the genuine battery back in. It seems the after market battery did some permanent damage.
I recently received some 1500mah batteries for the TP2. I purchased 3 units. I have a friend that will test these batteries before I use it. I will use one for the office, home and the other one will be opened and my friend will inspect the board and cell of battery. He usually takes about a week to do these test so, I will give you a update next week, if possible.
I dont really have a problem with the battery life of the TP2. Its just in case I forget to charge it over the weekend, due to my drunken stupor. Its nice to have a backup battery at home or work.
maybe I'm the only one with short life battery problem on rhodium... but I have to complain... after 3 times I've charged ...the battery dies in the evening.
maybe I must be patience and maybe it will improve after some charging cicle...but for now I'm disappointed.
anybody've seen a better battery on market for TP2?
well... i been an iphone user for a long time..
well since the first gen came out...
almost 2 years ago..
i still own an iphone First Gen (2g)
and now i been with the TOuch Pro 2
for about 3 weeks..
i love the TP2...
i did a test.. a little one tho..
i live in NEw YOrk.. in the bronx
i had to go to the JFK airport
in train so it was arround 1 hour and 20 minutes
maybe the trip...
i charged both phones to 100percent...
i was listening to music the WHOLE TRIP with the Iphone
and the TP2 was Idle...
when i got there... my iphone still was 100...
the TP2 was about 91%....
another stuff that i know it drains a little my battery from the TP2
is beejive but i cant live without it, i been trying a lot of methods to
increase my battery, cant see it perform better..
TP2 fully charge in the morning and it dies before 7pm..
just Textin, and some phone calls ( about 3-5 calls )
no website .. if so maybe 1 website .. no emails no push anything...
no bluetooh no wifi...
i ordered an extra battery and a craddle i hope this helps me.
something i figured was that the charging is REALLY FASTTTT....
it can go out 20% in about 15-25minutes of charging
( wall plug ) ... dont try to charge from USB it will take u 200 hours LOL
when i first got it i always charged from usb and used to take me like 8 hours
even more to fully charge it.. but when i tried from the wall plug..is Amazing
how fast it charges..
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1 hour and 20 minutes, i was listening to music the WHOLE TRIP with the Iphone when i got there... my iphone still was 100%...
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lol, typical misleading iPhone fashion, at this rate the battery will last forever
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lol, typical misleading iPhone fashion, at this rate the battery will last forever
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so what are you saying ? that im just here makin
false statements? well...
i was a big fan of APPLE.. now i really LOVE
my TP2.. and i dont have any reason to be saying
something that is not...
my iphone battery was still 100%...
if u dont believe me then go do it yourself man
im just saying.. the TP2 really have issues with its
battery...
Peace dude.
Not saying that your statement is false or deceiving, just that your iphone battery meter was lying to you.
Clearly the battery level can't be at 100% after 1 hr 20 min of use. The meter must only drop when the battery gets to a certain level. Kinda like when you fill your gas tank and the needle stays on full for the next 50Km.
You must have the 1% increment tweak installed. Notice how a couple of minutes after taking it off charge it drops to 99%. At least this is realistic aye enjoy your TP2.
I found the screen brightness was one of the biggest battery killers. Since I took it off auto adjust and set it to full brightness all the time, the life had significantly decreased.
freeway4you said:
so what are you saying ? that im just here makin
false statements? well...
i was a big fan of APPLE.. now i really LOVE
my TP2.. and i dont have any reason to be saying
something that is not...
my iphone battery was still 100%...
if u dont believe me then go do it yourself man
im just saying.. the TP2 really have issues with its
battery...
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I don't believe you.. I dare say that because I was a user of iPhone 3G.. battery is hopeless.. I SURELY didn't get that kind of situation.. My wife still has an iPhone 3G.. also can't replicate your kind of situation..
In anycase, I do not believe any mobile phone device, listening to music at >1hr can still be at 100%.. surely the battery reporting driver has gone haywire..
However I'm not saying TP2 doesn't have battery reporting issues. Infact most HTCs I use seem to report battery differently at times.. usually after a soft reset, it shows a different battery status.
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Peace dude.
Not saying that your statement is false or deceiving, just that your iphone battery meter was lying to you.
Clearly the battery level can't be at 100% after 1 hr 20 min of use. The meter must only drop when the battery gets to a certain level. Kinda like when you fill your gas tank and the needle stays on full for the next 50Km.
You must have the 1% increment tweak installed. Notice how a couple of minutes after taking it off charge it drops to 99%. At least this is realistic aye enjoy your TP2.
I found the screen brightness was one of the biggest battery killers. Since I took it off auto adjust and set it to full brightness all the time, the life had significantly decreased.
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yea.. i agree with you.. but i noticed something on the iphone,
if u charge the battery to 100% and keep it charging for at least 20-30 minutes.. it will last long in 100%.. i dont know if is that my battery meter was wrong or something, i guess so... i was just trying to tell
what happened to me.... i really love the TP2 i wish i could have more battery life tho...
I hv no problem with my TP2. The battery last me for almost 2 days with 1 overnight charge. I'm liking it
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I hv no problem with my TP2. The battery last me for almost 2 days with 1 overnight charge. I'm liking it
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WOW...
have u make any modifications ?
or anything we should know about ?
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WOW...
have u make any modifications ?
or anything we should know about ?
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It's just about how you use the phone.
I normally get a bit more than 2 days out of one charge, but then I'm calling and writing, surfing and checking EMails every 30 minutes, youtubing and listening to music.
Now I went over my data plan so I disabled the Mail-checking and did not listen to music for a while. The battery now lasts for 3 days with already 60% left.
I would say, one week battery lifetime isn't much of a problem if you don't use the phone's functions in any matter
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-1500mah-Battery-for-HTC-Touch-Pro-2-T7373-Sprint_W0QQitemZ390068283925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccessories_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item5ad1e1aa15&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1683%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Anyone bought one of these? Seems cheap - but if it works...
Comparin iPhone 2G with TP2 is not an apple for apple comparison. First compare with the ipHone 3G (Remember how poeple complained their 3G was lasting really less than their 2G and were switching from 3G to 2G to spare battery life ?)
Besides as many underlined the battery meter from iPhone is decieving (The TP2 has issues but less I believe)
In the end my TP2 last rougly 136 hours an I am quite a hevay user. Even if the iPhone last longer (I dont have an iPhone so cant compare both feelings, and my previous remarks come from my friends' experince who own one), the nice point with the TP2 is to be able to replace the battery with another one
wu dudes, well,my tp2 comes in 7 days.... i'll test it and than post here about life batery.... and freeway4you maybe u charge your batery when its not 0%. if you do that the batery is gonna be weak. sorry the english...
DarkHorse said:
maybe I'm the only one with short life battery problem on rhodium... but I have to complain... after 3 times I've charged ...the battery dies in the evening.
maybe I must be patience and maybe it will improve after some charging cicle...but for now I'm disappointed.
anybody've seen a better battery on market for TP2?
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Yea i've had that same exact problem today, charged it, went to sleep and i woke up it was almost empty. I went back to the shop and replaced it, i'll see what happens now. Although after doing some research I think that it has to take some cycles to reach full capacity. Good luck bro ...
Have just bought an Hero 3000mAh battery and larger cover for £14.99 uk (free postage too) for a test. Will report back as to performance since it has just arrived and am in process of charging.
Only downside so far is thicker cover is black, but that is puerly a cosmetic factor and doesn't bother me too much. Am hoping that this will give me better than a days charge with Android 2.1 ROMs.
Am not sure that I can post where I bought the battery from on the Forum as this could be considered spamming. Could someone clarify if I am able to give the link.
I have just purchased one as well after seeing this post, Will hopefully be ok.
Initial impressions of the battery seem to be positive (pun intended). Had a slight worry when battery indicator dropped a single bar within an hour, 20 hours later and indicator is still sat at one bar from full.
Am still on my first charge and expect the battery to reach it's full potential (another pun) after a couple of charges. So far am very pleased with value of this battery and the charge it holds.
Could you maybe post some pics on how thick your hero is with the new battery
does a 3000Ma battery can do a damage to the phone?
if it doesn't, why everyone dont buy it?
Bit difficult for me to take photos at the moment, my camera is mounted up for my work and takes ages to set back up. The battery cover adds about 6mm to the depth of the phone in an area equal to the size of the battery. I actually have big hands and find it more comfortable to hold than the standard cover.
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does a 3000Ma battery can do a damage to the phone?
if it doesn't, why everyone dont buy it?
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3000mAh is the capacity of the battery it should run for longer, not the voltage supplied so no damage should occur. The problem comes with quality control on aftermarket batteries, they can be of lower capacity than a standard battery, despite claims of a higher capacity.
There have also been cases of aftermarket batteries overheating and expoding, it is rare but can happen. I bought the battery as an experiment to see if it lived up to the claims and am prepared to take the small risk of serious hazards with the battery. In the end it's down to paying for a name and strict quality control, Kellogs Cornflakes or Unbranded Breakfast Crunchies.
The large capacity battery's make your phone fat and ugly
I rather work with 20 hours of total battery life with a beautiful piece of kit, then to run 40 hours with an ugly 80's looking fatso.
JanSchotsmans said:
The large capacity battery's make your phone fat and ugly
I rather work with 20 hours of total battery life with a beautiful piece of kit, then to run 40 hours with an ugly 80's looking fatso.
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I don't mind having a fat and ugly phone, it tends to be topic of conversation and draws attention away from the very similar owner in my case
feedback please
I agree u don't mind having a thick phone ad long ad its safe and gives more power so pleas to those who have bought this battery can you please provide link to page and please any feedback on this battery is very much welcome
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I agree u don't mind having a thick phone ad long ad its safe and gives more power so pleas to those who have bought this battery can you please provide link to page and please any feedback on this battery is very much welcome
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Am not sure on rules about posting links to retailers, but here it is http://www.oddsandpods.co.uk/hero-e...-replacement-back-cover-p-120.html#googlebase if anyone objects please PM me and will remove the link
If you enter FP code in the checkout you will get Free Postage
One thing I have noticed about charging this battery, is that the indicator will show battery as fully charged. I found that giving an extra hour after fully charged is shown will give a much better charge. So far the battery will give a good 36Hrs with Wifi continually on, haven't tried it with WiFi off for a long period, so far about 12hrs and it is still showing fully charged.
Thanks 13...
this was really helpful... i will go ahead and buy one
Has this battery worked good for you guys? No problems? I kind of need a bigger battery for the times I'm doing jobtravels etc. Earlier experiences in non original batteries are both good and bad. Bought a battery for my HTC Diamond, and the phone got fried. Don't wanna experience that again (even though my job buys me new phones when I need one)...
Just wanted to know you my experiences.
I have a 2600 mAh extended battery and my running time of the phone with enabled WiFi and Nimbuzz is about 48 hours. Without WiFi, pure Standby, is about 85-90 hours.
You need at least 10-15 recharge cycles to get the full capacity out from the battery.
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Just wanted to know you my experiences.
I have a 2600 mAh extended battery and my running time of the phone with enabled WiFi and Nimbuzz is about 48 hours. Without WiFi, pure Standby, is about 85-90 hours.
You need at least 10-15 recharge cycles to get the full capacity out from the battery.
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Sounds great. I might have to try one of these batteries. What battery did you buy?
I bought one of this too, off Ebay. Although the phone is a bit uglier and slightly heavier, the battery seems to last between 2 and 3 times as long. I gotta say it's totally been worth it. The extra size isn't that noticable either...most people look at the front, right?
Well i bought one and i rly dont like it.
Its almost a half centimeter bigger and allot heavier.
So be ware the phone does get ugly but you do get more battery power.
Tbh i rather recharge my phone everyday then make it so ugly
I've just ordered this battery.
Can any one give some real numbers? For example how long will it last with 3g network active. I bought this one for outdoor activities when I can't recharge for a few days and I would like to know how many days I can depend on it.
Thanks!
I rooted my phone and tweaked the crap out of it.
Runs 48 hours with standard battery now.
No need for fat and ugly
I have this battery + cover too.
Because it's bigger, I find it easier to press the hardware buttons on the bottom of the front of the Hero. THe only drawback is the total volume in your pocket, but that's just a minor point.
Also, flashing Modaco's 3.1 Rom and the newest RADIO Rom, the phone lasts for about 6-7 days with normal use (wifi/3g on when i need it, some regular phonecalls/texts)
Ok, here we go. I tested three batteries for X10 mini pro. Testing conditions were real-time/normal use (that´s all we are interested in, and not some crazy testing programs) which means several calls, some mp3 listening (half an hour max), some wi-fi usage and browsing. GPS and background data transmission were always on. all tests were done at the same location (i.e. phone didn´t have to look for cells) with good 3,5G coverage. 00:to 9:00 phone was idle.
Time Ericsson Jin Dian Jinpintong
00:00 100% 100% 100%
09:00 60% 60% 65%
12:00 55% 52% 54%
15:00 28% 20% 44%
18:00 17% 16% 22%
21:00 dead at 19:30 dead at 19:00 8% (dead at 21:30)
As you can see the behaviour of the batteries is the same in the first 12 hours (until 50% discharge), the differences show up later.
I have attached a jpg file with battery pictures so that they can be easily identified. BST-38 was marked as 970mAh, Jin Dian 1420mAh and JPT as 1800mAh.
Tomorrow I will test the winner (JPT) switching the phone to GPRS only (no 3G)
thanks
would please give us a link to the Jinpintong battery please
alhout said:
would please give us a link to the Jinpintong battery please
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It is somewhere on ebay. Make a search on BST-38, then start looking at the pictures and compare with the one I posted. It is usually sold as "business battery". By the way the 1800 mAh written on it is bull**** as well, because theoretically it should give us at least 50% time increase, and as a result we get barely 2-3 hours extra.
By the way, can someone who owns a DEJI battery repeat my test, so that we will haveit for comparison?
cannot find Jinpintong battery on ebay...tried ebay.com and even hong kong ebay...nothing...
Makkar1 said:
cannot find Jinpintong battery on ebay...tried ebay.com and even hong kong ebay...nothing...
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I bought it from this guy http://myworld.ebay.com/efoodlifecn/ he erroneously had them listed as 1650 mAh batteries, and currently doesn´t have any BST-38 compatible ones listed, but write him and ask about it. Since he sells a lot of batteries (the yellowish ones) from the same JPY (jinpintong) factory, he must be their dealer.
how many charge cycles have the batteries gone through before testing?
I have the Jin Dian battery and haven't noticed much if any improvement over the stock battery
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how many charge cycles have the batteries gone through before testing?
I have the Jin Dian battery and haven't noticed much if any improvement over the stock battery
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That is exactly what my test shows. Jin Dian gives no improvement at all, and Jinpintong gives a marginal improvement of 2 hours.
The quantity of cycles doesn´t matter, as Li-Ion batteries have no memory effect, but just for information, all of them went through at least 10 cycles, before the test.
Nice comparison, i wonder if i can use these for the X10 Mini
No, you can't.
I´ve ordered a DEJI battery from DinoDirect, the one that everyone is praising, and as soon as it arrives, will repeat the same test for it.
are this tests made by modifiyng build prop battery info?
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are this tests made by modifiyng build prop battery info?
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Modifying build.prop battery info makes no difference on physical battery capacity. But if you doubt it, I can test DEJI battery (when it arrives) both with and without modifying.
vlissine said:
Modifying build.prop battery info makes no difference on physical battery capacity. But if you doubt it, I can test DEJI battery (when it arrives) both with and without modifying.
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yes i do think so but maybe the system have some sort of overcharging protection and limits battery performance...
good testing
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yes i do think so but maybe the system have some sort of overcharging protection and limits battery performance...
good testing
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Overcharging protection is built into the battery itself.
"00:to 9:00 phone was idle." and have -40%?!
0:00 - 100%
9:00 - 60%
It is strange.
VadRox said:
"00:to 9:00 phone was idle." and have -40%?!
0:00 - 100%
9:00 - 60%
It is strange.
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All questions to Sony Ericsson. Why do you think everyone complains about battery time?
hi i just recently bought this wonderful phone call x10 mini pro and i was wondering to buy a battery to extend the battery life and i happen to stumble upon this battery call gold BST-38 its 1930 mAH and it cost around £9.75.It's a japan quality product but can only find in a uk store weird product or ebay.Can anyone test and tell me is this good or bad.TY(sorry for not being able to post the link cause i'm new)
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hi i just recently bought this wonderful phone call x10 mini pro and i was wondering to buy a battery to extend the battery life and i happen to stumble upon this battery call gold BST-38 its 1930 mAH and it cost around £9.75.It's a japan quality product but can only find in a uk store weird product or ebay.Can anyone test and tell me is this good or bad.TY(sorry for not being able to post the link cause i'm new)
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Why don´t you buy it and test it for us? 9 quid is not a lot of money.
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"00:to 9:00 phone was idle." and have -40%?!
0:00 - 100%
9:00 - 60%
It is strange.
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In my case when my battery going down fast, it's due to an application.
Sometimes I regret my P1i with 5 days of autonomy with a 5 years stock battery...
monstercheese said:
In my case when my battery going down fast, it's due to an application.
Sometimes I regret my P1i with 5 days of autonomy with a 5 years stock battery...
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I don´t think it´s an application. If I enter airplane mode (all applications still running) - I lose 5% for the time I lose 45% with transmission enabled. We have excellent 3,5G coverage, so no issue with signal loss or level.
It is just badly managed battery. When I was on win 6.5 it lasted MUCH longer. Btw. other Android phones suffer from the same - just check out the other forums - everyone complains about the same ****.
For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 9 days on a single charge... that's right, 9 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
Image 1 (see thumbnails) shows the completed mod. I did this by making a battery tray out of 1/4" square pine rods I picked up at an RC hobby shop. The rear cover is Mugen's from their 2600 mAh battery kit.
Image 2 shows the battery connector (black). I snagged this from an HTC 8525 junk mainboard. It has 6 contacts and only needed 3 so just left the full length to add stability.
Image 3 shows a top view of the installed battery tray and the wooden retainer strip to the right.
Image 4 shows the battery tray and battery comparison.
Image 5 shows the battery tray sitting on top of the original Toshiba battery. There was a lot of tedious work to make this tray but it wasn't too difficult.
This mod has so far exceeded my expectations. Buying a genuine Samsung OEM battery (joint Japan-Korea product) probably is one reason for the fantastic performance. And the phone isn't very heavy. The new Samsung battery only requires a single charge, unlike my original multi-battery pack which required charging several times to get a full charge. The inherently inaccurate TG01 battery meter is still present but not a real problem with this mod.
I also bought an aftermarket 5000 mAh 'fat' battery kit for the Samsung Galaxy Note in case this one didn't meet expectations and am in the process of slightly modifying that battery (adding extensions to the electrical contacts) to use with this tray. I will have to modify the back cover as the 'fat' battery is 15mm thick. I'll give an update once that mod is completed and tested. If anyone would like additional details, photos, etc., just let me know.
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Update - Finally had to recharge my phone again. This time it managed 6 days (instead of "about 5 days" that I reported initially)!!! TBH these were mostly fairly light days, no videos and games, a mixture of calls, some camera shots, and some Internet browsing. I also forgot to turn it off one night. The battery might have lasted a full week but my TG01's whacky battery protective circuitry turns the phone off when the battery level falls below "28%". After popping the battery out to recharge in my external charger I decided to check the voltage. What to my surprise the battery still had around 3.2v remaining. I was thinking WTF as it's safe to discharge li-ion/li-po batteries down to 2.75v. I wonder if there is a way to override this ridiculously conservative setting. If anyone has any idea please chime in.
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Update #2 - Oct 24th
This Samsung battery just keeps getting better and better. My 3rd full recharge cycle yielded 8 full days of light usage. My 4th full recharge cycle jumped to 9 full days!!! The 5th cycle resulted in 5 days of mixed light and heavy usage and still probably had another day of use left. See my response to fxdjacentyfxd below for more details.
Cheers!
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For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 about 5 days on a single charge... that's right, about 5 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
Image 1 (see thumbnails) shows the completed mod. I did this by making a battery tray out of 1/4" square pine rods I picked up at an RC hobby shop. The rear cover is Mugen's from their 2600 mAh battery kit.
Image 2 shows the battery connector (black). I snagged this from an HTC 8525 junk mainboard. It has 6 contacts and only needed 3 so just left the full length to add stability.
Image 3 shows a top view of the installed battery tray and the wooden retainer strip to the right.
Image 4 shows the battery tray and battery comparison.
Image 5 shows the battery tray sitting on top of the original Toshiba battery. There was a lot of tedious work to make this tray but it wasn't too difficult.
This mod has so far exceeded my expectations. Buying a genuine Samsung OEM battery (joint Japan-Korea product) probably is one reason for the fantastic performance. And the phone isn't very heavy. The new Samsung battery only requires a single charge, unlike my original multi-battery pack which required charging several times to get a full charge. The inherently inaccurate TG01 battery meter is still present but not a real problem with this mod.
I also bought an aftermarket 5000 mAh 'fat' battery kit for the Samsung Galaxy Note in case this one didn't meet expectations and am in the process of slightly modifying that battery (adding extensions to the electrical contacts) to use with this tray. I will have to modify the back cover as the 'fat' battery is 15mm thick. I'll give an update once that mod is completed and tested. If anyone would like additional details, photos, etc., just let me know.
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It's great. But it's true. May I make it myself?
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It's great. But it's true. May I make it myself?
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Yes, you certainly may. I can take some more pictures and provide more details if you're interested. The only difficult part is to find a battery connector from a junk phone to connect the new battery. You will also have to modify the original TG01 back cover if you don't have the Mugen 2600 mAh kit cover. Other than that I used some heavy gauge copper wire to make the new battery tray harness and pine wood for the tray. The original Toshiba battery was the template to make the new wood battery tray. Again, this mod is a little tedious but not too difficult. I used pine wood for the battery tray as it is very light, strong, and easy to work with.
Good luck! :good:
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For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 6 days on a single charge... that's right, 6 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
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Hi Jim. Nice work. I am glad You still use TG01 like me ))
Regards
Jacek
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi Jim. Nice work. I am glad You still use TG01 like me ))
Regards
Jacek
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Thanks Jacek! I appreciate the complement, especially coming from you, the battery mod master. :good: Yep, unfortunately the TG01 forums are beginning to have only echos as most have moved on. I really like my TG01 as it still does everything I need except for Skype & 3G. I confess I'm too lazy and a bit scared to mess around with cooking a new ROM to change the radio since I have no experience in such matters.
Regarding this battery mod I have to say this Samsung battery is incredible. I'm currently on day 8 of fairly light use (3rd recharge cycle) and my battery is finally down to 30%. I reboot the phone several times daily to update the inaccurate TG01 battery meter.
Regarding the battery meter I do have a question for you. Is there a way to modify the battery driver(?) or ??? so the phone will not shut off until the battery discharges down to 2.8-2.9v? We're losing quite a bit of time before recharges since the phone shuts off between 3.2-3.4v. Toshiba really screwed up on that one.
I'll be updating this thread so stay tuned my friend.
Cheers,
Jim
Hi Jim.
Sorry for late response. Yes, TG01 forum is almost dead
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I reboot the phone several times daily to update the inaccurate TG01 battery meter.
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Why do You do this at all ? Only for that to have accurate value ?
CrashMurdock said:
Regarding the battery meter I do have a question for you. Is there a way to modify the battery driver(?) or ??? so the phone will not shut off until the battery discharges down to 2.8-2.9v? We're losing quite a bit of time before recharges since the phone shuts off between 3.2-3.4v. Toshiba really screwed up on that one.
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As I remember when I was developing stub for original battery driver [ in fact my driver it is not native driver because I have ( I guess nobody have ) no knowledge how to access hardware responsible for battery measurements. It behaves exactly like device driver but calls original battery driver and sometimes ... cheat so that work with TG01 was possible under 20%. You know my 26% ]
I realized I had not any influence when TG01 shut off. I was doing some measurements. Sometimes it shut off when battery is about 3.2-3.4 ( typically ) but sometimes it shut of when battery is 2.91V . Take into account that having 3.2-3.4 battery have of course some capacity yet but You realize that there are ( can be ) big current flows ( peeks ) that can very easy do decrease voltage on snapdragon and other hardware below 3V and lower. I guess that is why voltage level when TG01 shuts off is so different.
Regards
Jacek
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Why do You do this at all ? Only for that to have accurate value?
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Greetings Jacek,
Sorry about the delay in responding. Had a cancer scare and had to take a trip to Bangkok for a complete physical. Luckily no cancer and all is good.
Regarding your question I was forced to reboot the TG01 several times daily or it would frequently turn itself off in the middle of phone calls. With my new Samsung battery I don't have to reboot it anymore but still do when the battery level drops to an indicated 30%-40% as the TG01 battery meter routine is still faulty. This new battery is so good it will last a full day even when starting at 30% charge.
I've been documenting recharge cycles and phone usage. Before going to Bangkok last week I got 9 full days of light usage! While in Bangkok I was using the phone a lot including lots of wi-fi time. I still got 5 full days with 30% remaining. I could have gotten another day but decided to recharge as hospital stay and overnight bus trip back home would have been too long before I could recharge.
I am extremely happy :laugh::victory::silly: with this new Samsung battery mod. Even still, I'm considering trying to modify my mod to use the new Samsung Galaxy Note 2 battery, rated at 3100mAh. Unfortunately, the Note 2 is so new I can't find the battery dimensions. There are no free lunches and since it has 24% more capacity it has to be 24% larger. If it's just 24% longer I can possibly modify my existing rig. If it's any wider it's not an option. If it's thicker then I would have to buy the 'fatter' Mugen cover like you have. At this late stage it isn't worth it, especially since this mod works so well.
Cheers my friend! :good:
Jim
Hi Jim.
Nice to hear You are healthy
It seems You are becoming best known battery mod maker in the world
It is nice You still want to do something with tg01.
Recently, after some rom modifications I had problems with frequent tg01 system restarts but it seems I know what was wrong. Having opportunity, i changed radio to 321 which seems to be better for talks than radio 1600 I typically was using.
Tests are in progress.
Cheers
Jacek
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi Jim.
Nice to hear You are healthy
It seems You are becoming best known battery mod maker in the world
It is nice You still want to do something with tg01.
Recently, after some rom modifications I had problems with frequent tg01 system restarts but it seems I know what was wrong. Having opportunity, i changed radio to 321 which seems to be better for talks than radio 1600 I typically was using.
Tests are in progress.
Cheers
Jacek
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Greetings Jacek,
Thank you for the kind words. Glad you were able to solve your radio problem. I made a mistake by putting one of my 1100mAh Cameron Sino batteries in my TG01 again. The reason was I had discharged my Samsung battery and had it on an external charger, but needed to make some calls. Now my phone is back in slow mode again unless I have Bluetooth turned on. I hope the problem is only temporary as the phone has been working perfectly until now. If you have any ideas please let me know.
Thanks, my friend!
Jim
CrashMurdock said:
Greetings Jacek,
Now my phone is back in slow mode again unless I have Bluetooth turned on. I hope the problem is only temporary as the phone has been working perfectly until now. If you have any ideas please let me know.
Jim
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Hmmm , once again. You removed Your battery pack then You inserted fully charged Cameron Sino battery. From this time Your phone works very slow and only cure for it is to switch BT on ?
Regards
Jacek
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hmmm , once again. You removed Your battery pack then You inserted fully charged Cameron Sino battery. From this time Your phone works very slow and only cure for it is to switch BT on ?
Regards
Jacek
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Yes, it's the exact same problem I had for months before I did the Samsung battery mod. Miraculously, the problem went away as soon as I installed the new Samsung. I have already removed the Cameron Sino and reinstalled the Samsung, but the 'slow' problem is still there. I have no idea why.
Thanks!
Jim
Tell mi Jim, having previously Samsung battery, You always drained it totally before charging( untill tg01 shutdown itself ) or rather You were charging it to full state again without tg01 shutdown ? It is "paranormal activity" for me but maybe reason is concerned with the fact that You removed power totally ( battery exchange ). I know it sounds stupid. Were You exchanging Samsung battery pack in the past many times and nothing wrong was happening ?
Regards
Jacek
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Tell mi Jim, having previously Samsung battery, You always drained it totally before charging( until tg01 shutdown itself ) or rather You were charging it to full state again without tg01 shutdown ? It is "paranormal activity" for me but maybe reason is concerned with the fact that You removed power totally ( battery exchange ). I know it sounds stupid. Were You exchanging Samsung battery pack in the past many times and nothing wrong was happening ?
Regards
Jacek
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Let me start by saying the original s-l-o-w problem just disappeared as soon as I started using the Samsung battery. I have to say that I have had NO problems at all using the Samsung battery. In fact, the experience with the phone is so much better because I don't even have to think about the battery anymore. Keep in mind it's a single battery so there is no fighting between battery protection circuits like I think I was having with my multi-battery mod.
To answer your question, at first I drained the Samsung battery until the TG01 auto-shut-off turned it off at around 26%. I did this because I read that a new battery needs several full discharge/recharge cycles to get maximum capacity of the battery. This has proven to be true as capacity increased each cycle finally leveling off at 9 full days between recharges. I've also partially recharged the Samsung with 30% remaining with no problems. I've only gone through about 9-10 recharge cycles to date with the Samsung because it usually lasts 8-9 days between recharges, dependent upon usage.
During this time I have also used the phone a time or two with the original Toshiba battery while the Samsung was charging, because the large Samsung battery takes a full day or night to fully recharge. The TG01 did not suffer the s-l-o-w mode then. It was only after I put the single Cameron Sino 1100mAh battery back in that the s-l-o-w mode problem started again.
I'm relatively sure a hard reset will fix the s-l-o-w problem because it worked before when using the Cameron Sino battery pack. Unfortunately the problem would come back. Now I believe the Cameron Sino battery's protective circuit may be damaged and caused the s-l-o-w problem. I won't be using that battery again. I'll update you after I hard reset the phone.
Cheers, my friend!
Jim
P.S. - Could you please post or send me your finger-swipe-to-unlock file? Mine disappeared during one of the master resets. THANKS!!!
Hi Jim.
I wait for Your hard reset results. Having opportunity maybe You change and test radio to 321 ?...
I do not quite understand what You mean "your finger-swipe-to-unlock file" ? You mean You want to remove "lock screen action" after going sleep at all ?
Regards
Jacek
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi Jim.
I wait for Your hard reset results. Having opportunity maybe You change and test radio to 321 ?...
I do not quite understand what You mean "your finger-swipe-to-unlock file" ? You mean You want to remove "lock screen action" after going sleep at all ?
Regards
Jacek
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Hi Jacek,
I still haven't backed up my phone yet so haven't done the master reset yet. When I first installed your custom ROM it had an Android type 'swipe to unlock' feature. I disabled it because I had the auto-screen orientation turned on and it made the swipe to unlock difficult to use. I stopped using the auto-screen orientation a long time ago because it is so laggy. I'm having to unlock the phone using the original Windows Mobile unlock feature which is crappy and would like to add the swipe to unlock feature.
Thanks!
Jim
Jim, I am getting older but I can swear I have never had any android-like software.
My custom rom has always had default WM6.5/WM6.5.x screen locker/unlocker disabled. As You surely know, this unlocker is based on sliders. Maybe that is why You say it is like in androd. Being disabled, older fashion ( WM6.1 ) screen locker is active but as You said and I can confirm, it is poor working software and that is why I personaly for my usage, totally switched off and screen lock/unlock. I do not need it at all. You can enable sliders in registry by only one switch value.
All I really needed was some kind of screen locker when TG01 is active ( let's say navigation software is on ) and You want to put in to jacket pocket or to any bag.
Without any "touch" disabler it is very probable that You ( Your pocket or bag ) touch the screen. I created some piece of software ( assigned to camera button ) that locks the screen when I want and unlocks when I want.
Regards
Jacek
Hello does anyone still use TG01?
The Samsung battery will be fully charged from TG01?
Any idea haow to modify the back cover?
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dreamH6 said:
Hello does anyone still use TG01?
The Samsung battery will be fully charged from TG01?
Any idea haow to modify the back cover?
Thanks
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Yes, it will be charged fully by TG01 internal charging circuit as long as the electrical contact points line up correctly. I did not modify the back cover. Instead I bought a 2600mAh battery cover from Mugen, who makes 2 different battery kits for the TG01, 2600 and 3900 mAh. If you don't mind paying a high price for their batteries you can just order a kit. Here is the link to Mugen:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/toshiba/toshiba-tg01.html
Good luck and hope this helps!
Cheers &
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Yes, it will be charged fully by TG01 internal charging circuit as long as the electrical contact points line up correctly. I did not modify the back cover. Instead I bought a 2600mAh battery cover from Mugen, who makes 2 different battery kits for the TG01, 2600 and 3900 mAh. If you don't mind paying a high price for their batteries you can just order a kit. Here is the link to Mugen:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/toshiba/toshiba-tg01.html
Good luck and hope this helps!
Cheers &
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I think they are no longer selling replacement cover.
I see only expensive kit battery + cover ($79,95), I paid the full TG01 less
I'll try to do my best on modifying original cover for an inexpensive samsung battery
dreamH6 said:
I think they are no longer selling replacement cover.
I see only expensive kit battery + cover ($79,95), I paid the full TG01 less
I'll try to do my best on modifying original cover for an inexpensive samsung battery
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I sent an email to them at: [email protected] and asked them to sell me just a replacement back cover. I lied and told them I bought the phone used and it already had the Mugen 2600 mAh battery and cover but that I had dropped the phone and damaged the cover. They sold me a new cover (with stylus) for $14.95 U.S. dollars, which included free international shipping. This was back in August 2011 so don't know if the price is the same now.
Their batteries are OK, but don't know why they charge 10x price for them. Since the TG01 is now a very old model they will probably be glad to sell to you just the back cover. They call it "backdoor".
I hope this helps. Good luck!
This is a topic I started on Xperia Support Forums: http :// talk . sonymobile . com/t5/Xperia-X10-mini-pro/Performance-Issues-of-Battery-BST-38-on-Xperia-X10-mini-pro-U20i/m-p/402537
My Battery BST-38 is discharged so fast that I cannot even tap OK button on "Battery Power Status 15%, 10%, 5%" messages.
I have managed to open Service → Service tests menu and applied Battery Test. After some hours spent on battery test:
Result
REDUCED CAPACITY
I have stock software and hardware. Only some apps installed from Android Market. Nothing flashed, nothing rooted, nothing hacked. Maybe some cracked apps (for trial, for sure :angel: )
Nothing modified.
And my battery died after 10 months. All I have been doing to my U20i is daily recharging for sure.
So, the question is:
How can I get my batterie's health, fitness, performance back?
Or you can recommend other things, you are the pro.
(PS: I'm living in Türkiye.)
Peace and love.
Just remember- never discharge device completly
Charge it with the wall-charger only, NOT through usb.
Make it charge for about 3.5 hours every time, even when it says it's full.
Recharge it when it's somewhere between 15 and 20 percent left.
If you don't see improvements this way, you may need a new battery.
I should say thanks to you.
Now I just need one more question to be answered:
When I am going to buy new battery, how should I prefer it to get best strength / stamina / durability / performance? What kind of battery should I choose in manufacturer , #value of mAh, #value of Wh, etc. categories?
Note: Stock U20i battery says
Battery - BST-38
Li-Polymer - 3.7V
Type CBA - 0002018B GB/T 18287 - 2000 4.2V
970 mAh 3.6Wh
Made in China 2010
Have a look here
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Have a look here
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Thank you, sir. I checked your link to the topic but I've found nothing for me to buy/get in where I live.
So I have another Sony Ericsson BST-38 bought.
This one says:
Sony Ericsson
Battery - BST-38
Li-Polymer 3.6V
Type CBA-0002008
930mAh
Made in China.
This is from OEM, but mAh capacity is less. I will test it and post results as I can in some hours.
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Thank you, sir. I checked your link to the topic but I've found nothing for me to buy/get in where I live.
So I have another Sony Ericsson BST-38 bought.
This one says:
Sony Ericsson
Battery - BST-38
Li-Polymer 3.6V
Type CBA-0002008
930mAh
Made in China.
This is from OEM, but mAh capacity is less. I will test it and post results as I can in some hours.
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Well, after the test:
Result
REDUCED CAPACITY
again. I think lower mAh value is the reason but yet I'm not sure and I don't know.
How can I solve this problem?
ugurcansayan said:
Well, after the test:
Result
REDUCED CAPACITY
again. I think lower mAh value is the reason but yet I'm not sure and I don't know.
How can I solve this problem?
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Did you wipe the battery stats, so it tests with a clean slate? You can try that on your old and on your new battery.
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Did you wipe the battery stats, so it tests with a clean slate? You can try that on your old and on your new battery.
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Sorry I couldn't understand what exactly you meant, so I'm giving lots of answers:
Test results are being saved as */LOG files on SDCard with date informations without any need to overwrite.
On the phone, no hardware (including battery and inner-case) or software is modified after factory.
I have tested ex and newer batteries and ex one took 1,5 - 2 hours to test but new one took more than 3,5 hours. Then I got the same "Reduced Capacity" results for the tests on each battery.
ugurcansayan said:
Sorry I couldn't understand what exactly you meant, so I'm giving lots of answers:
Test results are being saved as */LOG files on SDCard with date informations without any need to overwrite.
On the phone, no hardware (including battery and inner-case) or software is modified after factory.
I have tested ex and newer batteries and ex one took 1,5 - 2 hours to test but new one took more than 3,5 hours. Then I got the same "Reduced Capacity" results for the tests on each battery.
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You can wipe the battery history using for example: THIS app.
It will completely erase everything android thinks it knows about your battery, resulting in it treating your battery like new. It may change the opinion android has of your battery and thus give you a more reliable estimate, instead of working with, (what may be), old or invalid data.
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You can wipe the battery history using for example: THIS app.
It will completely erase everything android thinks it knows about your battery, resulting in it treating your battery like new. It may change the opinion android has of your battery and thus give you a more reliable estimate, instead of working with, (what may be), old or invalid data.
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Thank you for the trick, sir. I will try it.
I would like to inform you about new battery:
Altough new battery failed at the test (Battery Test in Service menu), it does just fine without anything abnormal.
I fully recharged it 18 hours ago, and since that I'm using my U20i as a casual user, my battery's status is 48% now. (in 18 hours: with mobile data traffic on, texting for ~1 hour, calling for 20 minutes, web browsing for 30 minutes, background services off and brightness full.) I think that performance is just good but I have no idea battery failed at test (as you mentioned, maybe test results needs to be wiped) OR just maybe it has less mAh (930mAh) than stock one (970mAh).
So I will find out what causes this.
Now I have one new question: How should I use my battery? I will charge it when it reaches 20%~15%, while recharging I will try to use not it as possible as I can. Any more tips or tricks?
ugurcansayan said:
Thank you for the trick, sir. I will try it.
I would like to inform you about new battery:
Altough new battery failed at the test (Battery Test in Service menu), it does just fine without anything abnormal.
I fully recharged it 18 hours ago, and since that I'm using my U20i as a casual user, my battery's status is 48% now. (in 18 hours: with mobile data traffic on, texting for ~1 hour, calling for 20 minutes, web browsing for 30 minutes, background services off and brightness full.) I think that performance is just good but I have no idea battery failed at test (as you mentioned, maybe test results needs to be wiped) Oe just maybe it has less mAh (930mAh) than stock one (970mAh).
So I will find out what causes this.
Now I have one new question: How should I use my battery? I will charge it when it reaches 20%~15%, while recharging I will try to use not it as possible as I can. Any more tips or tricks?
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48% left after 18 hours with the usage you specified is not bad at all.
You can use it when it's charging, that's not a problem, but try to charge it through the wall-charger as much as possible, and not through usb.
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48% left after 18 hours with the usage you specified is not bad at all.
You can use it when it's charging, that's not a problem, but try to charge it through the wall-charger as much as possible, and not through usb.
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Some people told me it's bad to discharge battery while recharging it, and I found it legit. But recharging is not a problem for me, because I will recharge it when it's night.
Can you or anyone recommend me anything more about battery health? Any advice will be appreciated.
ugurcansayan said:
Some people told me it's bad to discharge battery while recharging it, and I found it legit. But recharging is not a problem for me, because I will recharge it when it's night.
Can you or anyone recommend me anything more about battery health? Any advice will be appreciated.
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The wall-charger will deliver more juice than the phone needs when you use it, so it's not really discharging, just charging slower. That said, if you don't need to it's better to just let it charge.
As far as battery health is concerned, just don't let it go below 10%, emptying it completely is not good for this type of battery. There's not much else to it.
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The wall-charger will deliver more juice than the phone needs when you use it, so it's not really discharging, just charging slower. That said, if you don't need to it's better to just let it charge.
As far as battery health is concerned, just don't let it go below 10%, emptying it completely is not good for this type of battery. There's not much else to it.
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Thank you a lot, sir. I will always remember your advices. :good:
Oh - I almost forgot to ask - What should I do about overcharging? I mean, what to worry about?