[Q] North Americans owners - HSPA+ speeds - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone,
following a thread I made in general regarding canadian owners, I have a specific question about HSPA+ speed you guys are getting on the UK model. Most people that posted in the thread were saying that they were not getting adequate speeds, a lot lower than what would be expected from an HSPA+ network.
Can people run a quick speed test running on HSPA+ and post the down and up results below please? I am on the verge on getting one from handtech but I need to know that I will be getting the speeds I am expecting (between 7.5 to 10 mbps down).
Please post location, signal strength and down/up speeds
thank you very much

This is what I got on AT&T with 4 bars in H+ (I'm in VA):
To DC:
Ping: 162ms
Down: 2163kbps
Up: 1088kbps
To VA:
Ping: 291ms
Down: 2545kbps
Up: 705kbps
To GA:
Ping: 141ms
Down: 2605kbps
Up: 1125kbps
To TX:
Ping: 312ms
Down: 1989kbps
Up: 1124kbpsz

that sounds terrible, thats not HSPA+, my old iphone 3g performs better than that!
What the hell is wrong, im really wondering if it's the phone or the network at this point...

I'm pretty sure it's the network. The Atrix, as well as the iPhone 4, I had before gave similar numbers. AT&T is still in the process of installing their "4G" network.

Took a speedtest the other day and got this. About the same speed my wife is getting on her Atrix.
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here is another test from today.

NYC near wall st area

djsaad1 said:
Took a speedtest the other day and got this. About the same speed my wife is getting on her Atrix.
here is another test from today.
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Yep, I was hitting 8+mbps in Austin as well.

I get 6.5mbps on att 3g on my sgs1, and 3mbps on my s2.. att 3g is fast, hope updated firmware will kick my sgs2 into speed, should be even faster than the s1
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I get 6.5mbps on att 3g on my sgs1, and 3mbps on my s2.. att 3g is fast, hope updated firmware will kick my sgs2 into speed, should be even faster than the s1
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Are you testing them back to back?
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soraxd said:
I get 6.5mbps on att 3g on my sgs1, and 3mbps on my s2.. att 3g is fast, hope updated firmware will kick my sgs2 into speed, should be even faster than the s1
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Are you testing them back to back?
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Agree with ph00ny, if you do back to back runs, you'll invariably get different results. I just know for me in Austin, my SGS never went above 5 mbps, so to see 7~8 mbps results is positive.

This is down to the network and the capacity of the mast you are connected to, not the phone.
For instance one mast gave me 3.57/1.2, another 1.2/1.
However if your phone/dongle is only 7.2/2Mbps spec then obviously you won't get more than that etc.

Yeah, and in my area I think I'm right on the edge of an HSPA+ area, since my phone switches between H+ and 3G quite regularly. I'm sure if I was in an area with better HSPA+ reception my numbers would be better...but it does what I need it to do.

Lone_Star said:
Yeah, and in my area I think I'm right on the edge of an HSPA+ area, since my phone switches between H+ and 3G quite regularly. I'm sure if I was in an area with better HSPA+ reception my numbers would be better...but it does what I need it to do.
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Difference between 3G and HSPA is usually a software update, when you connect, switching between them is normal.
T-Mobile in the UK restricts HSPA to contract only customers.

Some of my speed results

Mine doesn't seem to like the speedtest app, fails the upload speed about half-way every time over 3G, yet doing it through the website via flash works...

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[Q] H+ Orange UK?

ANYONE HERE FROM UK ON orange with there sgs2 and gets a h+ signal???
I get H and 3g only in Norfolk, tbh the h speed its some times poor rarely over 1 mbit/ s
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H & 3G here most of the time, too(Wolverhampton). I sometimes get G and have only once seen E. I think my top speed whilst on H was around 2Mbps, though. Can't really remember. It averages around 1.5Mbps. I don't think we'll be seeing true H+ speeds on Orange for quite a while yet, even if we do end up seeing the elusive H+ icon I doubt we'll be running any faster than we already are.
ok kool thanks guys yea i think max i have seen on H was near my home was 1.9mb but yes rarely is over 1mb
I'm in Leicester and just get 3G+ runs just over 1mb. No H+
yes benjatt im from leicester aswell i have max ever got 1.9mbs...some people in other coutries are getting some sickk speeds between 4-7mb when is the UK going to have speeds like this?
3G and H London. Never seen H+ yet
Northampton is pretty poor, as far as Orange signals go. The best I get is 3G+. I tend to be on wifi everywhere I go, if possible.
Wow not even London has H+? Quite surprised by that.
Tut, tut Orange. Get your act together already.
Newcastle Upon Tyne.
Lots of standard HSDPA (H) coverage over the city at a pretty solid 1.8 or so but never seen an H+ appear on my phone yet!
Sutton here, just outside London.
Never seen H+ on my phone, only H or 3G.
Oddly enough, I just starting getting H+ on my phone on orange literally half an hour ago!!!
I didn't even think we had that in the UK. I've seen it before in the states on my phone, and (oddly!) in Egypt on Etisalat's 3.75G network, but never here.
Must be a mistake.
I'm still not getting any faster speeds, only 200k/sec downloads.
Live in Northants.
Bolton here...
Only ever see 3G & H
G if i go in the toilets at work! Soooo frustrating. LOL
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I get H where I am on the Wirral on o2, but was getting H+ when in London over the summer.
Blackpool O2, getting average 2.5mb/s on KL1 modem. Never got H+ though.
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GiffGaff usually H and 3G in London, Central London I've got H+ in certain places. My speeds in good signal areas on H can go upto 3-4Mbps.
At home I get around : Top 4 on KL1 modem.
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West London here, on the way to work (near Cambridge) I get H quite often. However, I noticed that in the same places I never got H on the stock ROM. I only seem to get H on MIUI (not tried other ROMs)
Im on t-mobile and have h+ most of the time...since the merger they have decieded to share their connections but you have to contact them and opt in for it.
Try contacting them and joining the tmobile connection...could possibly be the root of the cause
Just had a message from Orange to say to turn my phone off and on again in order to reconnect as they have just rolled out some speed/network improvements to the "high speed" network in the area.
Will see how the service is over the next few days but already had H pretty solidly across this area (Newcastle/Gateshead)
Mainly H with some 3g in Norwich, never seen H+ ever, typical H speed is about 2mbit/sec
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New PRL 51082

Im still in the original rooted. 5 update and had the 51081 prl. I just updated it and im on 51082 and just wanted to share. I didn't see a thread about it or maybe im just blind. Signal was already really strong and im always full bars! Gotta love the radio in this phone. Anyways, go update your prl in system updates if you haven't already
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3586/20111013184300.jpg
Any idea what it does? Probably more network shrinkage...
Thanks for the heads up - I personally never saw the significance of the PRL updates (either on the photon and past HTC Touch Pro 2) on Sprint... Of course, nonetheless I do them anyways
How have you noticed reception changes? i.e. any actual "dead spots" that turned out to be otherwise after some PRLs?
My bars are supposedly better. 4 bars out of 6 instead of 1 or 2.
amlodipine said:
Thanks for the heads up - I personally never saw the significance of the PRL updates (either on the photon and past HTC Touch Pro 2) on Sprint... Of course, nonetheless I do them anyways
How have you noticed reception changes? i.e. any actual "dead spots" that turned out to be otherwise after some PRLs?
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Well to be honest my 3G speeds at home are usually around. 92 but ive been testing for the last 3 hours and im getting 1.5mbps now? Is this a coincidence or maybe no one is using their phones atm lol. Ive NEVER hit beyond 1mb EVER. Ill report back tomorrow to see if its the prl...
Still 81 here but I can say that speeds have been inconsistent but significantly better lately.
Kevets said:
Still 81 here but I can say that speeds have been inconsistent but significantly better lately.
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Umm get 82? Lol
Well, the iPhone launches soon. Remember, it has no 4G so Sprint better get its 3G shiate together or it's gonna get a lot of those fruity devices coming back to the Sprint tree (notice how they recently shortened the remorse period, hmmmm....).
In the past few years 3G service with Sprint has really gone downhill and 4G coverage, particularly in-building is, well, rather pitiful (where it even exists).
I'm gonna have to update mine now. Am as we speak. :]
Edit.
And after it "updated" I'm still on 81. Hm......And after that, did it again, and I'm at 82. Sweet. :]
Which is better the higher the db or lower.. Cause mine saying 85..
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Which is better the higher the db or lower.. Cause mine saying 85..
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The closer to 0 the better. So -70 is better than -80, -60 better than -100, etc.
here's a strange thing
I'm lacking the last two lines in the "about phone" menu
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Those two.
Must be because i've deleted all the sprint stuff from my phone.
Oh well... I'll live
Mine is running at -90 at the moment.
guys, isn't pro the preferred ROAMING LIST AND ISN'T IT ONLY USED TO FIND ROAMING TOWERS? SORRY FOR THE CAPS
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Mine is running at -90 at the moment.
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"-54 dBm 0 asu" here. settings > about phone > status
Thank you for posting this!
Mine is at -89 dBm 0 asu I have full bars an fast 3g 1.5 mb download.
When I had the PRL 51081 a used to have full bars most of the time but when I updated to 51082 my bars when down in most places and my 3g was slower, I installed PRL 11115, a Business only PRL, and I went back with full bars and better 3g speeds plus when I force roam with verizon I have 3G. Now this mopho rocks!
Business prl? Are business prl's "better" than the standard user issue?
edit: found out the difference is that business prl allows 3g roaming in limited areas that the standard prls do not.
Yes, the business prl lets you use the verizon's 3G when you are roaming and in some areas I see my calls go through a lot faster, that is why is only for business.
In my case, here in Florida, I have 3G all over with verizon and in most of the times my download speed is 1.5 MB/s.

Hsdpa vs hspa

I'm still so confused. What is what? And yes I've Google's and read Wikipedia but still hasn't awnsered me. Which one is the one is backhauled and they call 4g? (Not lte) like I know umts is 3g but then what is the other two? I know one of them is the backhauled 3g but then what is the other lol.
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HSPA+ is what AT&T called '4G'. HSDPA (for faster download) and HSUPA (for faster upload) are all part of old 3G technologies. UMTS is even older. Technically HSPA+ is 3G as well.
The entire HSPA protocol stack is a giant evolving standard with many different revisions (called release). UNTS is first release. HSUPA is release 6. HSDPA is before that. Current AT&T 4G HSPA+ is at release 10. T-Mobile is release 10 or higher. Both companies call this 4G.
The first step required to upgrade WCDMA to HSPA is to improve the downlink by introducing HSDPA. The upgrade to HSDPA is often just a software update for most WCDMA networks, and as of May 2008 90 percent of WCDMA networks have been upgraded to HSDPA.
In other words...it's exactly what the person above me said...
That's odd, I read Wikipedia and it answered it for me.
Yea I know what they call 3g and 4g lol. Its just that my area last week just got 3g. And it says hspa under status. And even the att website here says its not the backhaulrd what they call 4g. And I was told hy 611 they we wouldnt gget backhauled speeds. But I have hspa. Download speeds always around 2mb down. Can't really test it cause when I'm in a known 4g area its still the same
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hyelton said:
I'm still so confused. What is what? And yes I've Google's and read Wikipedia but still hasn't awnsered me. Which one is the one is backhauled and they call 4g? (Not lte) like I know umts is 3g but then what is the other two? I know one of them is the backhauled 3g but then what is the other lol.
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Best explanation ever is found here: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/2g-3g-4g-and-everything-in-between-an-engadget-wireless-prim/
Also what explains the issue with it and having 3bars of service phone calls work fine even with the h+ symbol but no data. It happens a lot. Its not just tmy phone either it does it with other androids and iI'm sick and tired of it
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hyelton said:
Yea I know what they call 3g and 4g lol. Its just that my area last week just got 3g. And it says hspa under status. And even the att website here says its not the backhaulrd what they call 4g. And I was told hy 611 they we wouldnt gget backhauled speeds. But I have hspa. Download speeds always around 2mb down. Can't really test it cause when I'm in a known 4g area its still the same
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You have couple of issues there. First of all the status page on GS2 is known to be broken. It randomly flips through UMTS, HSPA and HSDPA etc. It is in no way reflect the actual protocol being used. Second of all, in most areas, 3G and 4G have no speed difference since they all over congested. You will only see signigicant difference in areas that are not densely populated. The signal icon of H+ is also not to be trusted. AT&T is known to stick to one icon for all protocols so that you can't easily find out which area is upgrade 4G and which is not.
Try dial *#0011# and see what the Samsung's diagnose screen says.
Yea iI know to not trust the status bar lol
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You have couple of issues there. First of all the status page on GS2 is known to be broken. It randomly flips through UMTS, HSPA and HSDPA etc. It is in no way reflect the actual protocol being used. Second of all, in most areas, 3G and 4G have no speed difference since they all over congested. You will only see signigicant difference in areas that are not densely populated. The signal icon of H+ is also not to be trusted. AT&T is known to stick to one icon for all protocols so that you can't easily find out which area is upgrade 4G and which is not.
Try dial *#0011# and see what the Samsung's diagnose screen says.
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And also what does this screen mean?
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[Q] Data speeds vs Skyrocket (HSPA)

There is no LTE in Seattle yet, so I'm comparing the HSPA+ ("4G") speeds.
I'm returning the Skyrocket because of the screen issues, plus there is not LTE in Seattle and I don't care.
On my Skyrocket (HSPA+ using 4G Sim card) here are my data speed tests:
DOWN(kbps) UP(kbps) Ping(ms)
- 13767 1652 141
- 8852 1577 111
- 5391 1455 148
- 9944 1671 738
- 6102 1681 107
- 11301 1668 73
- 11028 1634 64
All of the tests were done on HSPA+ and NOT 4G LTE.
Are the HSPA+ speeds similar on the AT&T GS II?
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I don't have a screenshot because i JUST flashed this thing, but i have seen upwards of 11 down and 3 up. I think they have different antennas but similar speed.
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I don't have a screenshot because i JUST flashed this thing, but i have seen upwards of 11 down and 3 up. I think they have different antennas but similar speed.
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Awesome! thanks for the reply!
Wow. You are getting really good speeds.
HSPA+ is capable of those speeds, so I would assume if you use i777 in your area, you can get same speed, if your test really were on HSPA+.
Fastest speed I ever got on my SG II was 3740kbps down and 1765kbps up.
Never seen 10+ Mbps you are showing, unless I was testing it on Wi-Fi.
Most common speeds I get is 1.x Mbps range for download and 600 to 800 kbps for up.
This is why I'm considering getting Skyrocket in hope of LTE will be faster. But because price difference is high I don't think I will switch..
I'm regretting signing 2 year contract with AT&T again. Horrible data network. At least in my area. (Fairfax county, VA)
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Wow. You are getting really good speeds.
HSPA+ is capable of those speeds, so I would assume if you use i777 in your area, you can get same speed, if your test really were on HSPA+.
Fastest speed I ever got on my SG II was 3740kbps down and 1765kbps up.
Never seen 10+ Mbps you are showing, unless I was testing it on Wi-Fi.
Most common speeds I get is 1.x Mbps range for download and 600 to 800 kbps for up.
This is why I'm considering getting Skyrocket in hope of LTE will be faster. But because price difference is high I don't think I will switch..
I'm regretting signing 2 year contract with AT&T again. Horrible data network. At least in my area. (Fairfax county, VA)
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They dont have LTE in Seattle YET. so yeah it was HSPA+....
if you're going to switch to the Skyrocket, be warned; the screen issue.
Just ran test to see what I get right now.
638kbps down, 1284kbps up, 110ms ping.
AT&T data speeds are a joke!..
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Just ran test to see what I get right now.
638kbps down, 1284kbps up, 110ms ping.
AT&T data speeds are a joke!..
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Not in Seattle
No hspa+ in my area
I Max out at about 3mbps down...
*jealous*
Edit: when I visited the family in Miami I was getting consistent 7mbps down...
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According to AT&T my area falls under HSPA+, but still I get really slow speed.
Is there anyway to find out what connection my phone is using?
Network status indicator on the phone shows H+, but that can be miss leading.
SSJ_Gomike said:
No hspa+ in my area
I Max out at about 3mbps down...
*jealous*
Edit: when I visited the family in Miami I was getting consistent 7mbps down...
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I DO have HSPA+ in my area, and never see as high as 3. There are several devs on here that live in edge only areas.
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im having the same slowness only worse. its bad when sprints 3g is faster than at&t's.
I had the gs2, and the fastest I ever got on hspa was around 2000. Skyrocket has gotten as high as 7900 on hspa. When tested in the same location on the same server (tested sequentially twice), the SR was always at least 2x as fast.
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Slow LTE speeds

I have been getting really slow data speeds in the Los Angeles area. I used to have the Galaxy S2 (i777) and it had decent speeds (usually 2-3 Mbps and sometimes up to almost 11). When I upgraded to this phone, I was hoping to get around 5 or 6 Mbps but I get this instead.
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It's so slow I can't even load webpages sometimes.
What phones did you come from and what has your experience been with data speeds? What city do you live in? Have you played around with the APN settings to increase speeds?
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I have been getting really slow data speeds in the Los Angeles area. I used to have the Galaxy S2 (i777) and it had decent speeds (usually 2-3 Mbps and sometimes up to almost 11). When I upgraded to this phone, I was hoping to get around 5 or 6 Mbps but I get this instead.
It's so slow I can't even load webpages sometimes.
What phones did you come from and what has your experience been with data speeds? What city do you live in? Have you played around with the APN settings to increase speeds?
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Are you on an unlimited plan? Maybe you have been throttled. If not then something is wrong,I got 21 down on lte in Detroit.
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Are you on an unlimited plan? Maybe you have been throttled. If not then something is wrong,I got 21 down on lte in Detroit.
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I am on the 2gb data plan and it says I have 1.9 left. I rarely use At&t data since I am connected to WiFi 80-90% of the time.
Speeds are faster early in the morning or later in the day around afternoon and also night time. It's just really slow during the day. I guess the network is just congested but it was never this bad when I was on my old phone.
Make sure you are connected to the closest server in the server list, sometimes it messes up and gives you one thousands of miles away, which result in low speeds.
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Make sure you are connected to the closest server in the server list, sometimes it messes up and gives you one thousands of miles away, which result in low speeds.
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Thanks. I've selected the same server that I used with my old phone (Los Angeles Dream Host).
How do your data speeds compare with your old phones? a) increase, b) decrease, c) stay about the same?
And was your old phone LTE or HSPA+?
No problems in Pasadena.
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No problems in Pasadena.
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Pasadena was where I got the highest data speed (near Cal Tech). I got 11, almost 12 Mbps on my old phone there.
Why are your speeds so slow? Im getting upper 30 mb consistently
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Why are your speeds so slow? Im getting upper 30 mb consistently
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What city are you in?
Maybe my phone is defective.
gsrrr said:
What city are you in?
Maybe my phone is defective.
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I am in LA/Orange County and the highest I have gotten is 16 down 8 up, but usually it is around 10down 3up and my friends get the same....at&t still growing lte and congested los angeles are the culprits
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What city are you in?
Maybe my phone is defective.
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Im in the DC, MD, area. Ive tested in atlanta and little rock and it was similar also. Over 30
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All lte at my house except one 3g test as you can obviously see.
I think you may want to check apn or call att. That might resolve your issue
I had to do that twice in one year due to some technical beef my phone did not register with their servers after resetting.
Portland oregon
around most of Dallas I get 12-20Meg ... in some places 30-40Meg+
the only time I got terrible speed was when I tried using the LTE toggle. but that was easily fixed.
I hate you guys, such fast speeds.
I shot AT&T an email and this was their response.... not sure if it is true or if it is just the normal reply they give when people ask about data speeds.
"Thank you for contacting AT&T about your wireless service. I will be
more than happy to assist you with your inquiry regarding your data
speeds today.
I'm sorry to hear of your data speed issues on the new LTE network, and
am glad to look into that for you. I do see several tower issues being
worked on in your area, which started a couple of weeks ago. They are
planned to be resolved by 12/30/2012. There are also planned upgrades to
the existing towers there too. I have now sent in a network quality
report to our engineers to make them aware of the impacts this is
having. They do use these reports in network planning also.
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Ask them if your data plan is compatible. The Bestbuy website, when I ordered, said that I must upgrade from my 2GB 4G data plan to the 3GB LTE data plan. There was no getting around it. Maybe you have to have the 3GB data plan to use LTE. Although it does look like your connected just fine.

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