ANYONE HERE FROM UK ON orange with there sgs2 and gets a h+ signal???
I get H and 3g only in Norfolk, tbh the h speed its some times poor rarely over 1 mbit/ s
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H & 3G here most of the time, too(Wolverhampton). I sometimes get G and have only once seen E. I think my top speed whilst on H was around 2Mbps, though. Can't really remember. It averages around 1.5Mbps. I don't think we'll be seeing true H+ speeds on Orange for quite a while yet, even if we do end up seeing the elusive H+ icon I doubt we'll be running any faster than we already are.
ok kool thanks guys yea i think max i have seen on H was near my home was 1.9mb but yes rarely is over 1mb
I'm in Leicester and just get 3G+ runs just over 1mb. No H+
yes benjatt im from leicester aswell i have max ever got 1.9mbs...some people in other coutries are getting some sickk speeds between 4-7mb when is the UK going to have speeds like this?
3G and H London. Never seen H+ yet
Northampton is pretty poor, as far as Orange signals go. The best I get is 3G+. I tend to be on wifi everywhere I go, if possible.
Wow not even London has H+? Quite surprised by that.
Tut, tut Orange. Get your act together already.
Newcastle Upon Tyne.
Lots of standard HSDPA (H) coverage over the city at a pretty solid 1.8 or so but never seen an H+ appear on my phone yet!
Sutton here, just outside London.
Never seen H+ on my phone, only H or 3G.
Oddly enough, I just starting getting H+ on my phone on orange literally half an hour ago!!!
I didn't even think we had that in the UK. I've seen it before in the states on my phone, and (oddly!) in Egypt on Etisalat's 3.75G network, but never here.
Must be a mistake.
I'm still not getting any faster speeds, only 200k/sec downloads.
Live in Northants.
Bolton here...
Only ever see 3G & H
G if i go in the toilets at work! Soooo frustrating. LOL
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I get H where I am on the Wirral on o2, but was getting H+ when in London over the summer.
Blackpool O2, getting average 2.5mb/s on KL1 modem. Never got H+ though.
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GiffGaff usually H and 3G in London, Central London I've got H+ in certain places. My speeds in good signal areas on H can go upto 3-4Mbps.
At home I get around : Top 4 on KL1 modem.
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West London here, on the way to work (near Cambridge) I get H quite often. However, I noticed that in the same places I never got H on the stock ROM. I only seem to get H on MIUI (not tried other ROMs)
Im on t-mobile and have h+ most of the time...since the merger they have decieded to share their connections but you have to contact them and opt in for it.
Try contacting them and joining the tmobile connection...could possibly be the root of the cause
Just had a message from Orange to say to turn my phone off and on again in order to reconnect as they have just rolled out some speed/network improvements to the "high speed" network in the area.
Will see how the service is over the next few days but already had H pretty solidly across this area (Newcastle/Gateshead)
Mainly H with some 3g in Norwich, never seen H+ ever, typical H speed is about 2mbit/sec
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Hello everyone,
following a thread I made in general regarding canadian owners, I have a specific question about HSPA+ speed you guys are getting on the UK model. Most people that posted in the thread were saying that they were not getting adequate speeds, a lot lower than what would be expected from an HSPA+ network.
Can people run a quick speed test running on HSPA+ and post the down and up results below please? I am on the verge on getting one from handtech but I need to know that I will be getting the speeds I am expecting (between 7.5 to 10 mbps down).
Please post location, signal strength and down/up speeds
thank you very much
This is what I got on AT&T with 4 bars in H+ (I'm in VA):
To DC:
Ping: 162ms
Down: 2163kbps
Up: 1088kbps
To VA:
Ping: 291ms
Down: 2545kbps
Up: 705kbps
To GA:
Ping: 141ms
Down: 2605kbps
Up: 1125kbps
To TX:
Ping: 312ms
Down: 1989kbps
Up: 1124kbpsz
that sounds terrible, thats not HSPA+, my old iphone 3g performs better than that!
What the hell is wrong, im really wondering if it's the phone or the network at this point...
I'm pretty sure it's the network. The Atrix, as well as the iPhone 4, I had before gave similar numbers. AT&T is still in the process of installing their "4G" network.
Took a speedtest the other day and got this. About the same speed my wife is getting on her Atrix.
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here is another test from today.
NYC near wall st area
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Took a speedtest the other day and got this. About the same speed my wife is getting on her Atrix.
here is another test from today.
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Yep, I was hitting 8+mbps in Austin as well.
I get 6.5mbps on att 3g on my sgs1, and 3mbps on my s2.. att 3g is fast, hope updated firmware will kick my sgs2 into speed, should be even faster than the s1
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I get 6.5mbps on att 3g on my sgs1, and 3mbps on my s2.. att 3g is fast, hope updated firmware will kick my sgs2 into speed, should be even faster than the s1
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Are you testing them back to back?
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I get 6.5mbps on att 3g on my sgs1, and 3mbps on my s2.. att 3g is fast, hope updated firmware will kick my sgs2 into speed, should be even faster than the s1
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Are you testing them back to back?
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Agree with ph00ny, if you do back to back runs, you'll invariably get different results. I just know for me in Austin, my SGS never went above 5 mbps, so to see 7~8 mbps results is positive.
This is down to the network and the capacity of the mast you are connected to, not the phone.
For instance one mast gave me 3.57/1.2, another 1.2/1.
However if your phone/dongle is only 7.2/2Mbps spec then obviously you won't get more than that etc.
Yeah, and in my area I think I'm right on the edge of an HSPA+ area, since my phone switches between H+ and 3G quite regularly. I'm sure if I was in an area with better HSPA+ reception my numbers would be better...but it does what I need it to do.
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Yeah, and in my area I think I'm right on the edge of an HSPA+ area, since my phone switches between H+ and 3G quite regularly. I'm sure if I was in an area with better HSPA+ reception my numbers would be better...but it does what I need it to do.
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Difference between 3G and HSPA is usually a software update, when you connect, switching between them is normal.
T-Mobile in the UK restricts HSPA to contract only customers.
Some of my speed results
Mine doesn't seem to like the speedtest app, fails the upload speed about half-way every time over 3G, yet doing it through the website via flash works...
Just tested this. I peak at over 2mb upload
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What about 3G?
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That really isn't that good bro....
Sure you hit just under 10 Mbit ONCE (change speedtest in settings to Mbit, not kbps) but there is ZERO repeatability, most of what you show is 3-4Mbit.
I've actually downloaded a file while tethered and got just over 1.1Mbit download speed (about 1300kbps) and it held that speed for the entire 2 gig d/l.
Umm, it was a linux iso.....yea, that's it.
Remember, there is bits and bytes and a k is 1024, not 1000 and stuff....
My Evo 4g and my Evo3d both did about the same speed and my Tmo Vibrant would run at 7-8 Mbit and NEVER fluctuate from that.
I do agree that the radios are much improved over my EVO OG
I can connect to 4g at my house where the clearwire maps show coverage but my evo or my wifes epic could never connect
My data streams are much more consistent as well.
I am hitting those speeds pretty much every time I speed test at that location- and sometimes faster.
Signal strength is generally improved as well and with the latest update I am a believer in the better wifi signal too
Wimax is really a joke. I mean its better than nothing but still, my friend from Finland got to try out an upcoming wireless carrier. He downloaded off their LTE network for 49 megabits per second. THAT IS FASTER THAN MY CABLE CONNECTION!
I don't think our radios really have an effect on the download speeds, I believe that for now, that what you are seeing is the limitation of our bandwidth.
Lol wimax is not a joke you seem to think the speed of the layer 2 wireless link between the phone and tower is the slow leg
Ever think it the carrier internet pipe an traffic
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yeah, here in houston tx im getting 8.5Mbps on 4G and just over 2Mbps on 3G. Im very happy finally seeing the 6-10MBps mark for the 4G. on my EVO, i never used the 4g bc it was a batt killer, slow to connect, and didnt give much more speed. max i ever saw with my EVO was 4-5Mbps in the same location im seeing 8.5 on the Photon. def a great phone!
Its about time sprint offered a worldwide android phone, and ever better yet, its a MOTO. Ive wanted a moto for 10 years now. always used and loved the durability of the MOTO phones with nextel. they can take a beating in the field. Plus MOTO has been in realations with android since the beginning and they got their stuff down. I
Ill fight with any bugs on this phone and super excited to see what the DEVs are able to do with the code. there will and is faster fonest out, but more speed will chew more power. I think with this cpu, and battery life, GSM and CDMA radios, this phone has a LOOONG life and a long way to go. i hope she grows more interest to people and stays around for a long time. so far, im a happy MOPHO user
Im looking forward to traveling. last two months i spent alot of time in japan and Malaysia. def looking forward to buyin a SIM card, slappin it in and having good cell signal instead of climbing a 20+ story building to catch a faint cdma signal from who knows where lol
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That really isn't that good bro....
Sure you hit just under 10 Mbit ONCE (change speedtest in settings to Mbit, not kbps) but there is ZERO repeatability, most of what you show is 3-4Mbit.
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My point was not showing consistent dl. I mentioned upload. The cap is at 1500 yet this photon burst thru that.
And anyone would know how consistent cell network can be hour to hour..
I actually live in a great 4g city and I get speed higher than most claim. And consistently. & check out that ping too
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I'm still so confused. What is what? And yes I've Google's and read Wikipedia but still hasn't awnsered me. Which one is the one is backhauled and they call 4g? (Not lte) like I know umts is 3g but then what is the other two? I know one of them is the backhauled 3g but then what is the other lol.
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HSPA+ is what AT&T called '4G'. HSDPA (for faster download) and HSUPA (for faster upload) are all part of old 3G technologies. UMTS is even older. Technically HSPA+ is 3G as well.
The entire HSPA protocol stack is a giant evolving standard with many different revisions (called release). UNTS is first release. HSUPA is release 6. HSDPA is before that. Current AT&T 4G HSPA+ is at release 10. T-Mobile is release 10 or higher. Both companies call this 4G.
The first step required to upgrade WCDMA to HSPA is to improve the downlink by introducing HSDPA. The upgrade to HSDPA is often just a software update for most WCDMA networks, and as of May 2008 90 percent of WCDMA networks have been upgraded to HSDPA.
In other words...it's exactly what the person above me said...
That's odd, I read Wikipedia and it answered it for me.
Yea I know what they call 3g and 4g lol. Its just that my area last week just got 3g. And it says hspa under status. And even the att website here says its not the backhaulrd what they call 4g. And I was told hy 611 they we wouldnt gget backhauled speeds. But I have hspa. Download speeds always around 2mb down. Can't really test it cause when I'm in a known 4g area its still the same
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I'm still so confused. What is what? And yes I've Google's and read Wikipedia but still hasn't awnsered me. Which one is the one is backhauled and they call 4g? (Not lte) like I know umts is 3g but then what is the other two? I know one of them is the backhauled 3g but then what is the other lol.
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Best explanation ever is found here: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/2g-3g-4g-and-everything-in-between-an-engadget-wireless-prim/
Also what explains the issue with it and having 3bars of service phone calls work fine even with the h+ symbol but no data. It happens a lot. Its not just tmy phone either it does it with other androids and iI'm sick and tired of it
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Yea I know what they call 3g and 4g lol. Its just that my area last week just got 3g. And it says hspa under status. And even the att website here says its not the backhaulrd what they call 4g. And I was told hy 611 they we wouldnt gget backhauled speeds. But I have hspa. Download speeds always around 2mb down. Can't really test it cause when I'm in a known 4g area its still the same
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You have couple of issues there. First of all the status page on GS2 is known to be broken. It randomly flips through UMTS, HSPA and HSDPA etc. It is in no way reflect the actual protocol being used. Second of all, in most areas, 3G and 4G have no speed difference since they all over congested. You will only see signigicant difference in areas that are not densely populated. The signal icon of H+ is also not to be trusted. AT&T is known to stick to one icon for all protocols so that you can't easily find out which area is upgrade 4G and which is not.
Try dial *#0011# and see what the Samsung's diagnose screen says.
Yea iI know to not trust the status bar lol
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You have couple of issues there. First of all the status page on GS2 is known to be broken. It randomly flips through UMTS, HSPA and HSDPA etc. It is in no way reflect the actual protocol being used. Second of all, in most areas, 3G and 4G have no speed difference since they all over congested. You will only see signigicant difference in areas that are not densely populated. The signal icon of H+ is also not to be trusted. AT&T is known to stick to one icon for all protocols so that you can't easily find out which area is upgrade 4G and which is not.
Try dial *#0011# and see what the Samsung's diagnose screen says.
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And also what does this screen mean?
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So I just finished flashing the True Connection mod from UnNamed and noticed I am on 3g.
Yesterday I noticed when I was a few cities up north from my area my signal bar turned green, does that mean it was actually H+ or I just had really good connection?
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I never had it shown green and drove mostly all over south Florida except one area in Dania Beach so I was rather confused if it was bad or good till I Googled it.
My speeds are great and I really don't need them faster, its twice as fast as my iPhone 3gs, when downloading files its around 600kb/s which is plenty fast.
Wifi Tethering:
Right now its bouncing between H+ and 3g depending where I am in the house.
So I am a little confused...
Im curious...what did you expect from the true connection mod?
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Im curious...what did you expect from the true connection mod?
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Well I didn't know what it was till I read this:
Simba501 said:
By default, the status bar shows HSPA (H) as the connection even if UMTS (3G) is active. HSPA is only in use when data is actually being used. In idle, it goes back to UMTS (3G). The addon will show this if you flash it. In areas where there is only UMTS (3G), this will be indicated by the addon as well. AT&T defaults to showing HSPA for everything because they want to pull the wool over their users' eyes, and make them believe they have HSPA everywhere they go.
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I just don't get how the signal and speeds relate.
I would think a good connection would get you the best speeds but maybe I am missing a whole lot more stuff that I don't understand.
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I just don't get how the signal and speeds relate.
I would think a good connection would get you the best speeds but maybe I am missing a whole lot more stuff that I don't understand.
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Hey LilChris06, are you the mod from OCN?
On topic:
Samsung's default setting is to give you the H+ symbol at all times, even though you may be connected to 4g or 3g. The "true connection mod" you flashed just changes the symbol to show you what you really are on, as the quote states.
As for your question, there are more complications to it, but generally yes, good connection does mean good speeds.
So you got 3G = UMTS
and the H = HSDPA, which in laymens would a "3.5G" in relation to 3G
H+ is an upgraded version of HSDPA, which occurred in 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
There is no LTE in Seattle yet, so I'm comparing the HSPA+ ("4G") speeds.
I'm returning the Skyrocket because of the screen issues, plus there is not LTE in Seattle and I don't care.
On my Skyrocket (HSPA+ using 4G Sim card) here are my data speed tests:
DOWN(kbps) UP(kbps) Ping(ms)
- 13767 1652 141
- 8852 1577 111
- 5391 1455 148
- 9944 1671 738
- 6102 1681 107
- 11301 1668 73
- 11028 1634 64
All of the tests were done on HSPA+ and NOT 4G LTE.
Are the HSPA+ speeds similar on the AT&T GS II?
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I don't have a screenshot because i JUST flashed this thing, but i have seen upwards of 11 down and 3 up. I think they have different antennas but similar speed.
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I don't have a screenshot because i JUST flashed this thing, but i have seen upwards of 11 down and 3 up. I think they have different antennas but similar speed.
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Awesome! thanks for the reply!
Wow. You are getting really good speeds.
HSPA+ is capable of those speeds, so I would assume if you use i777 in your area, you can get same speed, if your test really were on HSPA+.
Fastest speed I ever got on my SG II was 3740kbps down and 1765kbps up.
Never seen 10+ Mbps you are showing, unless I was testing it on Wi-Fi.
Most common speeds I get is 1.x Mbps range for download and 600 to 800 kbps for up.
This is why I'm considering getting Skyrocket in hope of LTE will be faster. But because price difference is high I don't think I will switch..
I'm regretting signing 2 year contract with AT&T again. Horrible data network. At least in my area. (Fairfax county, VA)
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Wow. You are getting really good speeds.
HSPA+ is capable of those speeds, so I would assume if you use i777 in your area, you can get same speed, if your test really were on HSPA+.
Fastest speed I ever got on my SG II was 3740kbps down and 1765kbps up.
Never seen 10+ Mbps you are showing, unless I was testing it on Wi-Fi.
Most common speeds I get is 1.x Mbps range for download and 600 to 800 kbps for up.
This is why I'm considering getting Skyrocket in hope of LTE will be faster. But because price difference is high I don't think I will switch..
I'm regretting signing 2 year contract with AT&T again. Horrible data network. At least in my area. (Fairfax county, VA)
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They dont have LTE in Seattle YET. so yeah it was HSPA+....
if you're going to switch to the Skyrocket, be warned; the screen issue.
Just ran test to see what I get right now.
638kbps down, 1284kbps up, 110ms ping.
AT&T data speeds are a joke!..
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Just ran test to see what I get right now.
638kbps down, 1284kbps up, 110ms ping.
AT&T data speeds are a joke!..
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Not in Seattle
No hspa+ in my area
I Max out at about 3mbps down...
*jealous*
Edit: when I visited the family in Miami I was getting consistent 7mbps down...
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According to AT&T my area falls under HSPA+, but still I get really slow speed.
Is there anyway to find out what connection my phone is using?
Network status indicator on the phone shows H+, but that can be miss leading.
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No hspa+ in my area
I Max out at about 3mbps down...
*jealous*
Edit: when I visited the family in Miami I was getting consistent 7mbps down...
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I DO have HSPA+ in my area, and never see as high as 3. There are several devs on here that live in edge only areas.
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im having the same slowness only worse. its bad when sprints 3g is faster than at&t's.
I had the gs2, and the fastest I ever got on hspa was around 2000. Skyrocket has gotten as high as 7900 on hspa. When tested in the same location on the same server (tested sequentially twice), the SR was always at least 2x as fast.
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