[Q] Debian on Archos - Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

If i use the method found here: http://www.debian-archos.com/wiki/doku.php?id=en:install will it wipe my current setup and if so is there a way to back it up?

No. If you've got the SDE installed then it'll be replaced by Debian but stock Android will be safe.

Hey, i went ahead and did this today, wanted to replace my android kernel anyway as i was getting a bit bored of it, can always rollback hehe. It's pretty good, but i wish i had a working keyboard or mouse with it, the on screen keyboard is so hard to navigate with.

Yeah its cool n all but it just doesn't feel right for the tablet format. Your right about the keyboard but the Angstrom one was far worse. Have you checked out Bodhi linux? Thats one im really looking forward to. If you want a kinda feeler you could install e17 over xfc or lxde, thats what i did on mine in its pretty cool, but just be sure to have a usb keyboard handy for logging back in after changing session ( the virtual keyboard wont come up the first time ).

Na, although i found the debian install guide through the bohdi thread. If there could be a way to use the mouse with touch screen without it selecting everything everytime you move it and a decent virtual keyboard i'd be on it so quick, i love linux. I saw a video of a guy using the compiz cube desktop on a monitor touchscreen and instantly wanted a decent linux distro on my tablet haha - tho im no developer so i shall not complain, just wait patiently =]
I think if by next pay day if there isnt any other sign of anything i might try and find a decent keyboard and mouse combo for my archos because i would love to join in the testing/helping of trying to get a nice linux distro working comfortably on these nifty little devices, but it's taken me a month till now to be suggested a flash drive that these thing's will actually power so i hold no hope for that (on my end).
I just checked out the bodhi linux site... O.O
Fingers crossed aye =]

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[Q] Lapdock yes or no?

Hello all
I have my Atrix for about 3 months now, and from the beginning was thinking on buying the lapdock aswell but held myself due to its over expensive price (500$ for a damn docking!!!). Personally I don't see any reason to buy a docking for just 1 device in over 150$.
I've got now a chance to buy a semi-used one for 210$ (with a spare charger) and I wanted some consolt about it:
1) Is it possible to write office docs such as word and excell on it?
2) Is it possible to connect USB storage devices to it?
Since my primery uses for it will be as a working tool for docs writing (Thesis, reports and stuff), that can replace my aging laptop and instead of buying a notebook. will it be enough for my uses?
Can I use a Ubuntu hack to make it work as a Linux laptop?
Does it worth the 210$? or should I remain assertive on my "not over 150$" policy?
Much 10xs for all
I have had mine for a month now and in my opinion is OK but very limited. First there is the WIFI only unless you get the tethering plan or can get the hack to work (I have not yet got it to work). I use mine for remotely connecting to my Windows server but use a paid app Pocketcloud which works fine with the full screen mode on the lapdock although sizing the screen is sometimes a problem.
In answer to your questions:
1 If there is an app for Office docs which there is the answer is Yes but all the lapdock is really is a large screen for your phone, if you can do it on the phone you can do it on the lapdock.
2. I believe you can but it needs a hack
In my opinion it is not really yet a substitute for a laptop but if the hacks for Ubantu, tethering, etc are refined it may be in time but it in all honesty does not appear the be there yet.
As far as price, probably worth $200.00 to me to throw in the car so that I have a larger screen to log into my server when I am on the road etc without wireless, but that is a decision you would have to make.
You can buy it cheaper online, refurbished. It comes in very good working condition. My first one had a dead pixel, but AT&T let me bring it in and they gave me a new refurb'd.
They're 175 + tax online.
It says that flash drives and mice are supported. But I'm not sure. Haven't tried.
There's also a Google Docs app if you don't want to mod your WebTop. You can get OpenOffice if you use WebTop2SD, or the Debian mod.
Hey
first 10x to you both
Second, did I understand you correct? in webtop mod I cant use 3G? whats the point then? shouldnt it supposed to be a "laptop" with all the capabilities of the Atrix?
anyway, Sinful, can you give me a link for this price?
Another question, Does anyone knows if there are 10 intch screens with HDMI inlet? It ca be a cheap replacement for the lapdock....
You CAN connect with 3G with the regular phone interface which can be full screen on the lapdock. What you cannot do without the ATT tethering plan is to use the "full" Firefox browser on the lapdock.
For the most part it works fine just using the phone interface with the phone's browser in full screen mode.
I bought a refurb from lapdock from att and have been pleased with it. I have done the debian hack and the tethering hack to get firefox to work with my data plan. In reguards to your second question, I have hooked up external usb drives without problem. It gets mounted just fine and I am able to copy files without problem. Open Office also works well.
O.K
Thanks for the clarification.
Thats quite ****ty! Why would they do that?
Anyhow, since i'm not an AT&T costumer, I obviesly dont have the 'AT&T tethering program', so I guess it will be problematic for me to use the 3G.
I dont see what the use of the lapdock if I cant use my 3G, and I really dont want to use the phone browser in full mode to be able to do so.
Well, we will have to wait for the 2.3.4 official AT&T rom, and maybe they will enable this, or just wait for a skillful dev that will do that...
Which tethering hack did you use? I could not get mine to work. Thanks
AT&T thinks that using an external display of ANY form is considered tethering, even though its technically the same "computing device", just the output/input being redirected. I had a major "phone fight" with AT&Ts support, and am in talks with my lawyer if this actually enforceable. But yes, if you want to use the standard 3G web connectivity on your webtop's Firefox browser, AT&T requires you to get the 45 USD dataplan.
Alternatively you can try FIREFOX from the app market, and run it "fullscreen" through your Android GUI-"window".
As for office application that does Microsoft's office 2010 documents, I swear by QUICK OFFICE PRO. It does excel, word, PowerPoint and adobe PDF to create/edit.
I use my ATRIX as a semi desktop on the go, via Bluetooth keyboard and the ATRIX plugged into any TV or monitor that has a DVI (with HDMI-2-DVI adapter) or HDMI jack, and use the ATRIX itself as a mouse, since the touchscreen turns into a laptop-style -mousepad
There are mods out there to run an (almost) full Ubuntu, but last time I checked they had massive storage constraints trying to make it work all the way. Not sure if they overcome them by now.
But since the bootlaoder can be now unlocked, we probably will see soon some cool ROMS that allow us to use the ATRIX in a full Ubuntu environment.
Just hoping :-D
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I have been using my atrix to do my general doc file typings. So far I am happy.
here are some stuff that you may need to know:
1. you can use an external drive as long as it is formatted FAT32.
2. you can use a cable mouse
3. look under development section and look up debian and ubuntu images for webtop. I found debian more reliable but ubuntu solution has more flexibility.
Using either solution you can install koffice or openoffice for your typing needs. If you simply want to type in text and do the formatting at a later time look up the "easy_v0.2.5-signed.zip" under debian solution. It will give you a on screen window for typing similar to notepad which is pretty nice.
There is also the webtop2sd project that is in beta. I suggest for it to come out of beta as it is not ready for general public yet.
I owned one , had hacked 3g tethering working and my opinion is NO not worth it unless you can get for 100-150 then its just OK
No. Id wait to see if there is any official webtop improvements....out of the box there is very little funvtionality.
Also, moto has said that there will be more accesories, and they have filed for a Tabdock....which may be much better if its basicly a xoom transformer. I think they released the lapdock first more as a webtop beta and to not have a tabdock compete with their zoom.
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Ive got one, and the usb drive works fine, and i have a wireless mouse that seems to work just fine, it does what ever your phone does, and stores it on your phone, so... if you consider your phone your primary computer then this is for you.... i will be trading mine in on a laptop or at the very least a net book of some kind that will allow me to use financial software and other windows/mac essential software...
its a neat idea, but at this stage its gimmicky at best.
vonh
Sorry to dig this thread up, but I just got my Lapdock and in the last month it has matured a bit more, with lots of hacks to install several Linux distros allowing to install native Linux apps to the environment.
So far, I'm very pleased and glad to leave the 15.4" laptop at home.
This is what I use my Lapdock for:
1. Remote into my job Servers and Workstations through LogMeIn. I still don't jump into Cytrix yet.
2. Browse the web natively through full Firefox for research and entertainment.
3. Remotely manage my home's NAS
4. Download, display an manage files (.RAR, .ZIP, .APK, .DOC, .PPS, .XLS, .PDF, etc)
5. A few games here and there (like AngryBirds) but honestly, I prefer to play them on the phone itself due to multitouch.
6. I manage several personal and business websites and portals, and I can pretty much do all I need to accomplish this. (FTP, Edit, Upload, Download, Code, etc)
What's lacking on the Lapdock:
1. No front Webcam (no way to answer a video call from Google Voice, Skype, etc)
2. No fron Microphone (I constantly find myself yelling so people on the other side of the line can hear me, I now use a wired headset. Maybe a BT headset would be more comfortable though.)
3. No way to input international accented characters (I hope to find a way to hack a way to implement this.)
4. No accelerated video under Webtop?
My conclusion:
For me, I think that overall it's a great complement to my Atrix as long as you don't pay more than $200 for it.
Cheers!
Rayan

The laptop dock in place of a laptop

I ordered a refurb dock from AT&T on sale for my Atrix 1, and I'm wondering about the webtop, and all of the hacks around for it. I dont have the dock yet,its still being sent by snail mail.
Basically my main question is, can you install a full version of Ubuntu on it, or is it still limited in some way? If you can install it,can you use one of the other distro's like Xubuntu or Lubuntu that might run better on lower end systems? I have a stock phone, that has been rooted, but still running stock firmware. I would like to keep it stock, aside from hacking the webtop to get full fuctionality out of the laptop dock.
I want to try using it for work, and I mainly do work from a web browser, but I want to put the best OS on it that I can, and I heard the stock Webtop is kind of lame. If a full version of ubuntu can be installed on it, mind pointing me to the easiest "how-to" guide?
Also, out of curiosity, can you run like Virtualbox on it with a windows xp VM?
Thanks for the answers
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x86 ICS port on Asus zenbook UX31

Hi All,
I'm sorry if I'm not suppose to post this here, Please delete if that's the case.
Just eager to share with you guys that the x86 intel port ICS is running unbelieveably well on my Asus UX31!
I can't wait to see ICS on our transformer Prime, it's gonna be so awesome.
And to my surprise, almost everything works, wifi, internet, Market, (sound not working)
You get a really good feel of what ICS is like, so for those who can't wait any longer for the official ICS arrives to the prime, here's the link to the file, burn it to a CD or make a bootable linux USB and install it on your laptop. (The description says it's for Asus laptops, but I've read that people got it to work on other laptops or tablet PC)
http://android-x86.googlecode.com/files/android-x86-4.0-asus_laptop-20111209.iso
Have Fun!!~
i dont get it. are you handicapping an ultrabook with android?
stereotada said:
i dont get it. are you handicapping an ultrabook with android?
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I think he was doing it just to play with ICS, not as some sort of permanent solution.
andyxover said:
Hi All,
I'm sorry if I'm not suppose to post this here, Please delete if that's the case.
Just eager to share with you guys that the x86 intel port ICS is running unbelieveably well on my Asus UX31!
I can't wait to see ICS on our transformer Prime, it's gonna be so awesome.
And to my surprise, almost everything works, wifi, internet, Market, (sound not working)
You get a really good feel of what ICS is like, so for those who can't wait any longer for the official ICS arrives to the prime, here's the link to the file, burn it to a CD or make a bootable linux USB and install it on your laptop. (The description says it's for Asus laptops, but I've read that people got it to work on other laptops or tablet PC)
http://android-x86.googlecode.com/files/android-x86-4.0-asus_laptop-20111209.iso
Have Fun!!~
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That actually sounds interesting. I think I'll give it a try on my Asus UL-30A. Its got a U7300 processor which doesn't necessarily scream on Windows 7, though it does work well when I boot up Linux Mint 11. It will be interesting to see how ICS runs on my machine.
As for running it on your UX31 it would definitely handicap that nice machine but it would be a really cool feature to show off!
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ICS on Prime
I just watched video on youtube showing this. Anyone have a link to ICS build? I would love to try it. Thx
http://www.android-x86.org/download
Here you go,
You might need use an ASUS laptop in order for this to run properly, give it a shot.

[Q] Fully Native Linux (no chroot) on Galaxy Player 5.0

Ohai.
I've been reading around, and noticed how people have booted the Nexus One into a vanilla installation of Linux, without a chroot or Android running whatsoever. I wanted to try this, and get Xorg running natively on the device without having to use VNC, in hopes of better X performance/more usability.
Playing around, I did get Xorg to start on the framebuffer inside a chroot. I got the evdev drivers working, thus I can actually use the touchscreen. ALSA seems to be happy and sound is alright. I found some drivers on the web for PowerVR GPUs, and installed those and configured X to use them. But, I've hit a wall: I can't load the PowerVR drivers for full hardware acceleration. It seems to be trying to use modprobe to load the module, but that doesn't seem to work inside a chroot. I'm guessing I might not be able to overcome this, as it seems to simply be a limitation of the chroot itself.
I'm assuming my next goal is probably to get my device booted natively in a vanilla Linux environment. No Android in the way. To be honest, I'm not sure where to start. I guess my first question is, how possible is this? For the Nexus One, people used fastboot, but since Samsung uses their own Download Mode thingy, I don't think that'd work. Does Download Mode work similarly like fastboot, where I can boot off something like the sdcard without flashing anything to the internal memory?
Is this a relatively easy task to accomplish? I'd just love to use Ubuntu Unity on this device, fully native, running OpenGL games with good performance (like Minecraft, which just barely runs in CPU rendering using the framebuffer driver or dummy driver + VNC). It would also be awesome to hook up a USB keyboard and mouse, maybe even an external display, and use it like a netbook/desktop.
Also, I apologize if this is the wrong subforum. I don't know if this really fits under the "Development" section or not.
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Ohai.
I've been reading around, and noticed how people have booted the Nexus One into a vanilla installation of Linux, without a chroot or Android running whatsoever. I wanted to try this, and get Xorg running natively on the device without having to use VNC, in hopes of better X performance/more usability.
Playing around, I did get Xorg to start on the framebuffer inside a chroot. I got the evdev drivers working, thus I can actually use the touchscreen. ALSA seems to be happy and sound is alright. I found some drivers on the web for PowerVR GPUs, and installed those and configured X to use them. But, I've hit a wall: I can't load the PowerVR drivers for full hardware acceleration. It seems to be trying to use modprobe to load the module, but that doesn't seem to work inside a chroot. I'm guessing I might not be able to overcome this, as it seems to simply be a limitation of the chroot itself.
I'm assuming my next goal is probably to get my device booted natively in a vanilla Linux environment. No Android in the way. To be honest, I'm not sure where to start. I guess my first question is, how possible is this? For the Nexus One, people used fastboot, but since Samsung uses their own Download Mode thingy, I don't think that'd work. Does Download Mode work similarly like fastboot, where I can boot off something like the sdcard without flashing anything to the internal memory?
Is this a relatively easy task to accomplish? I'd just love to use Ubuntu Unity on this device, fully native, running OpenGL games with good performance (like Minecraft, which just barely runs in CPU rendering using the framebuffer driver or dummy driver + VNC). It would also be awesome to hook up a USB keyboard and mouse, maybe even an external display, and use it like a netbook/desktop.
Also, I apologize if this is the wrong subforum. I don't know if this really fits under the "Development" section or not.
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Yes, this completely belongs in the dev section, especially since you seem to have enough ,motivation and kniw-how to be able to work on this project .
This seems like a very interesting project, that would definitely be feasible, but Linux would have to replace android 100% (since heimdall/Odin flash to only the internal flash, and you would need ticreate a weird frankenstein-esque kernel to be able to boot it from anywhere else, although I suppose you could partition a micrlsd card and use that). I do not know enough in this particular field to be of much help, but if you do want any assistance, or have any questions, feel free to ask me or any other member of TeamSuperNova.
Welcome to the forums!
EDIT: My 2c on the project:
What you are setting out to do sounds like a very nice side project, that could be very a very nice addition to forums, and I have a few things I would just like for you to consider.
1. This is an aging device. We have a decent SOC, even though it is getting on in it's years, but I seriosuly doubt that it would be able to run Ubuntu natively well, even with full HW acceleration, and even if it does, we have only 512 MB for you to play around with. In comparison, the TF (dual core Tegra 2 +1 GB ram) has had native ubuntu for awhile now, and just got full HW acceleration. I tried it, and although the interface was smooth, everything took several seconds too long to complete, and overall it seemed like it would crawl to a stop (which it did a few times) the moment a few things started going. Our 1 GB of ram was enough, but only barely enough to give us some breathing room for browsing/light gaming.
2.The kernel. To get Ubuntu running natively, you will need to figure out how to create a linux kernel for Ubuntu, which is a LOT harder than just cut/pasting the needed modules and compiling. Most liikely you will need to start from scratch, and build your own kernel from the ground up, which requires a lot of kernel experience. Fortunately, we have several IT members on the forums such as daniel644 and Oisis which I am sure would be happy to help you whenever they have free time.
3.Time. Assuming that this will be a one-man job, you seriosuly need to think about how long this will take. Weeks? months? Years? I do not know your skill level and/or experience, but my prediction is that this will take about 6 months of hard work (assuming a few hours a day and sufficient support from the community) to see it to fruition. If you really are dedicated to this, I would suggest trying to form a dev team (like we did) of people who would be interested, and WORK. I don't just mean ballpark ideas until you like the way something sounds, but set goals for youselves, (eg. kernel booting with dmesg by xx date).
4. Bootloader. Our bootloaders are very finicky, unfortunately, unlike something like the TF, where you can overwrite the full bootloader partition, and you can just NVflash away and be done with it. If you make a mistake, write something to the wrong section, partition the wrong way, there is a very real chance that you will get into a hard-brick situation, from which you may not be able to get out of. At least our bootloader isn''t locked, so you don't need to worry about that.
I don't want to sound demotivational or depressing, but these are some real things you need to take into consideration. Again, if you have any questions, just pop me a PM whenever you want, and I will probably respond fairly quickly (as I normally browse xda in my spare time). Good luck, and may the bits be ever in your favor (sorry, sorry).
hanthesolo said:
Yes, this completely belongs in the dev section, especially since you seem to have enough ,motivation and kniw-how to be able to work on this project .
This seems like a very interesting project, that would definitely be feasible, but Linux would have to replace android 100% (since heimdall/Odin flash to only the internal flash, and you would need ticreate a weird frankenstein-esque kernel to be able to boot it from anywhere else, although I suppose you could partition a micrlsd card and use that). I do not know enough in this particular field to be of much help, but if you do want any assistance, or have any questions, feel free to ask me or any other member of TeamSuperNova.
Welcome to the forums!
EDIT: My 2c on the project:
What you are setting out to do sounds like a very nice side project, that could be very a very nice addition to forums, and I have a few things I would just like for you to consider.
1. This is an aging device. We have a decent SOC, even though it is getting on in it's years, but I seriosuly doubt that it would be able to run Ubuntu natively well, even with full HW acceleration, and even if it does, we have only 512 MB for you to play around with. In comparison, the TF (dual core Tegra 2 +1 GB ram) has had native ubuntu for awhile now, and just got full HW acceleration. I tried it, and although the interface was smooth, everything took several seconds too long to complete, and overall it seemed like it would crawl to a stop (which it did a few times) the moment a few things started going. Our 1 GB of ram was enough, but only barely enough to give us some breathing room for browsing/light gaming.
2.The kernel. To get Ubuntu running natively, you will need to figure out how to create a linux kernel for Ubuntu, which is a LOT harder than just cut/pasting the needed modules and compiling. Most liikely you will need to start from scratch, and build your own kernel from the ground up, which requires a lot of kernel experience. Fortunately, we have several IT members on the forums such as daniel644 and Oisis which I am sure would be happy to help you whenever they have free time.
3.Time. Assuming that this will be a one-man job, you seriosuly need to think about how long this will take. Weeks? months? Years? I do not know your skill level and/or experience, but my prediction is that this will take about 6 months of hard work (assuming a few hours a day and sufficient support from the community) to see it to fruition. If you really are dedicated to this, I would suggest trying to form a dev team (like we did) of people who would be interested, and WORK. I don't just mean ballpark ideas until you like the way something sounds, but set goals for youselves, (eg. kernel booting with dmesg by xx date).
4. Bootloader. Our bootloaders are very finicky, unfortunately, unlike something like the TF, where you can overwrite the full bootloader partition, and you can just NVflash away and be done with it. If you make a mistake, write something to the wrong section, partition the wrong way, there is a very real chance that you will get into a hard-brick situation, from which you may not be able to get out of. At least our bootloader isn''t locked, so you don't need to worry about that.
I don't want to sound demotivational or depressing, but these are some real things you need to take into consideration. Again, if you have any questions, just pop me a PM whenever you want, and I will probably respond fairly quickly (as I normally browse xda in my spare time). Good luck, and may the bits be ever in your favor (sorry, sorry).
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Ohai.
Thanks for the response! I guess I didn't realize it would've been this tricky. I assumed I could just partition my sdcard, install a Linux distro onto it, and then point the native Android kernel to boot to that without even modifying the native Android filesystem.
I've somewhat given up on the idea of booting natively into a pure Linux environment, and I'm working on seeing what I can do from the chroot. I've been trying to get modprobe to work from the chroot but I barely know what I'm doing. I created a symbolic link from /system/lib to the /lib folder inside the chroot, just to see if that would work. After copying the libraries required to run even basic commands like "ls" and "uptime", modprobe simply couldn't find the one module that I wanted to use: omap_gpu. While /lib was mounted, I uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers just to make sure.
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing. I'm just kind of doing things and seeing if it works. I have no clue how I'd be able to load kernel modules from a chroot to the actual Linux kernel. For the record, this is the log I get when starting Xorg. It says the same things modprobe say when starting it:
Code:
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X.Org X Server 1.10.1
Release Date: 2011-04-15
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.38-1208-omap4 armv7l Ubuntu
Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.35.7-G70UEKI8-CL566269 #1 PREEMPT Mon Mar 26 11:00:08 MST 2012 armv7l
Kernel command line: console=ttySAC2,115200 loglevel=7 androidboot.serialno=c0890526591863f
Build Date: 13 October 2011 05:53:40PM
xorg-server 2:1.10.1-1ubuntu1.3 (For technical support please see [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/support[/url])
Current version of pixman: 0.20.2
Before reporting problems, check [url]http://wiki.x.org[/url]
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Sep 14 08:51:04 2012
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
WARNING: Failed to open config file blacklist-oss.conf: No such file or directory
FATAL: Error inserting pvrsrvkm (/lib/modules/2.6.35.7-G70UEKI8-CL566269/updates/dkms/pvrsrvkm.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Failed to open config file blacklist-oss.conf: No such file or directory
FATAL: Module omap_gpu not found.
(EE) Couldn't get PVR Services status
(EE) No devices detected.
Fatal server error:
no screens found
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at [url]http://wiki.x.org[/url]
for help.
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log
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I'm hoping this can be possible. As you said, it is very slow while loading things, but I do think it could perhaps be nice for certain things like VLC. The reason I want VLC is the headphone virtualization (I like it more than Android's virtualization), the equalizer, and whatnot. Other things include *MAYBE* light gaming (Minecraft probably won't run too well, even if I got H/W acceleration going, but maybe just enough to be able to type into the chat and goof around a tad if I find a way to add touch controls), and being just plain cool.
Another benefit I *may* gain by using the PVR drivers isn't really about H/W acceleration, is that I'm not using the fbdev driver. I can't seem to get certain things like screen rotation and DPI changing to work with the framebuffer driver, but maybe they'll work with the PVR drivers. Just a guess, I'm assuming the fbdev driver just doesn't handle changing the DPI or something.
Like I said earlier, I'm a tad bit clueless on how modprobe and stuff alike works. I don't know if this simply won't work in a chroot or not. Also, I apologize for the rather late response, I keep forgetting to check XDA.
Another thing is that I might actually get a Galaxy S III sometime soon (not too soon though), and I think I should stick to a chroot since it would be more portable, and easier to transfer to my Galaxy S3 when (or if) I get one.
Ah, this is what I love: detailed posts. The more info you give me, the more likely I may be able to help you in some way.
Just off the top of my head (with no googling or researching about creating a CHROOT enviroment, do those files actually exist, and if they do, is the filesystem actually mounting? Sounds stupid, but sometimes some of the most frustrating mistakes are the ones that are extremely simple (I spent a week working on CM9 at one point fixing crashes, and all I needed to do was set a variable to false).
I would look up any work related to this on the I9000 forums, as they are almost identical to us. The I9000 has just about every android project under the sun availible to it, so I am sure someone has worked on CHROOT for it at some point or another (almost 3 years old, and their dev community is still ENORMOUS, I wish I had gotten one of them with a bad ESN than a Gplayer ). Now, are you actually able to boot to a terminal (as it seems), and trying to start an X server, or are you just trying to get it to START period?
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Ah, this is what I love: detailed posts. The more info you give me, the more likely I may be able to help you in some way.
Just off the top of my head (with no googling or researching about creating a CHROOT enviroment, do those files actually exist, and if they do, is the filesystem actually mounting? Sounds stupid, but sometimes some of the most frustrating mistakes are the ones that are extremely simple (I spent a week working on CM9 at one point fixing crashes, and all I needed to do was set a variable to false).
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Yup, I checked and the filesystem did mount properly. I created a file inside /system/lib, and it appeared in the chroot's /lib, which is where I `mound -o bind`'ed it to. It seems like it was working alright.
hanthesolo said:
I would look up any work related to this on the I9000 forums, as they are almost identical to us. The I9000 has just about every android project under the sun availible to it, so I am sure someone has worked on CHROOT for it at some point or another (almost 3 years old, and their dev community is still ENORMOUS, I wish I had gotten one of them with a bad ESN than a Gplayer ).
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Ah yes! Probably my only serious complaint about my Galaxy Player is the development community's lack of existence. I almost wonder if I could just sell this device and get a Galaxy S1 for about the same amount of money? Or even a Galaxy S2, maybe. I just wonder how much money Galaxy Players can cost second hand.
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Now, are you actually able to boot to a terminal (as it seems), and trying to start an X server, or are you just trying to get it to START period?
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I can get a terminal which works just fine, and I can even start Xorg right now, but only with the framebuffer driver. Interface-wise, the framebuffer driver seems amazingly smooth but the driver itself has its issues, and I'd rather have a hardware accelerated driver anyway just to see how certain OpenGL games run like Minecraft.
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I've somewhat given up on the idea of booting natively into a pure Linux environment, and I'm working on seeing what I can do from the chroot. I've been trying to get modprobe to work from the chroot but I barely know what I'm doing. I created a symbolic link from /system/lib to the /lib folder inside the chroot, just to see if that would work. After copying the libraries required to run even basic commands like "ls" and "uptime", modprobe simply couldn't find the one module that I wanted to use: omap_gpu. While /lib was mounted, I uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers just to make sure.
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I'm not a developer but your comments about chroot reminds me of a related project for the nook color:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605095
I wonder the ideas there could be useful? Please keep us informed!
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Yup, I checked and the filesystem did mount properly. I created a file inside /system/lib, and it appeared in the chroot's /lib, which is where I `mound -o bind`'ed it to. It seems like it was working alright.
Ah yes! Probably my only serious complaint about my Galaxy Player is the development community's lack of existence. I almost wonder if I could just sell this device and get a Galaxy S1 for about the same amount of money? Or even a Galaxy S2, maybe. I just wonder how much money Galaxy Players can cost second hand.
I can get a terminal which works just fine, and I can even start Xorg right now, but only with the framebuffer driver. Interface-wise, the framebuffer driver seems amazingly smooth but the driver itself has its issues, and I'd rather have a hardware accelerated driver anyway just to see how certain OpenGL games run like Minecraft.
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Yeah, I would have done that if I had known, but it is probably better to hang onto the player, as they sell for maybe 50 percent of retail. Well as I said, this really isn't my forte, so good luck with the driver, and if you need any help, just pop me a PM.

[Q] External CD/DVD Drive

So.. Right now I'm currently building a computer from well, basically scrap. So far, everything seems to be going well in terms of gathering the parts and now it's almost time to get my hands dirty and start putting it together. The basic idea is that this laptop is going to run off the MK808 portable android USB stick, which will control hopefully every aspect of the PC from a functioning webcam, touch-pad, keyboard and so on. I'm doing the build by tearing down an old 17" laptop that has a fried mobo, and I'm trying to salvage as much as possible for use in this project.
So, now onto my question! On sites like ebay, you can purchase adapters to convert the optical drive of laptops into a USB external powered drive. If I was to give this the power it needs, and connect it via USB to the MK808, would the Android OS 4.1 be able to recognize it? I do plan to do this either way, as I'll also be running Ubuntu next to Android, but this would be some sick bragging rights! I've heard iffy stories about the Samsung drive that kinda works with Android, and I can't figure out what that would have that this wouldn't.. but then again, I'm sure you people here on XDA know much more about this than I!
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