Hi,
Just a public service announcement, sharing the lesson the sales rep taught me the hard way when he aggressively tore the back off. It's very flimsy, which is alright, but the (aluminum?) bezel around the camera lens will bend where it has been weakened with holes for the speaker. So be sure to loosen all sides before taking it off, instead of just grabbing the bottom and yanking up.
-TM
BB sales or ?
It seems to me that (on mine) the back is particularly stubborn around the camera button and switch, that part always seems to require a bit more finess to release than the rest of the back. I suppose this is because that area doesn't have the same structural strength and the rest of back, since it lacks the "rim" there.
mevensen said:
It seems to me that (on mine) the back is particularly stubborn around the camera button and switch, that part always seems to require a bit more finess to release than the rest of the back. I suppose this is because that area doesn't have the same structural strength and the rest of back, since it lacks the "rim" there.
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After prying up the bottom, I just run my thumbnail along the opening to get all the sides to pop up.
Ugh, I don't understand why they make the back that much of a PITA to get off. My Touch Pro 2 has a nice and easy design. Press the middle of the back and slide down to remove and just slide/latch it back on when done. Made it super easy to swap batteries when needed.
I guess this is more like my wife's Samsung Restore. That's a PITA to remove as well. Feels like I'm gonna break it every time I try to remove it.
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The faceplate for the phone buttons on my Touch Pro is shifting like tectonic plates. The Back button side is flushed with the screen but the Home side is raised a bit like it's bent upwards a bit. Am I the only one with this problem? I walked into a Best Buy to look at the demo and it's all flushed.. even with thousands of hands raping the display unit daily..
Mine is like that to but my back button goes lower
mine is doing the exact same thing. i took mine into bell and they told me that its normal... mind you they were complete f****** idiots. no offence to amyone who works for them. i myself used to sell for them. anyway... i too looked and the display and it was also completely flush. i'm concerned about the reprocutions of long term use...
My Sprint TP has been in exactly the same shape as the original poster's since day 1. I would have refused it initially but just getting the thing was such a pain due to the crappy service I was getting that I just went with it anyway, but it bothers me every time I use it. Does anybody know whether this should be covered under the manufacturers warranty?
My sprint TP is normal .. no issues so far had it for month ..
but reading that scarying me..
hey do you think its just defect ? under my cover says DT08.12.17
guessing day its made ?
Yeah, mine's raised up too... on mine, both sides are raised up with the home side being 1 or 2 millimeters higher. It hasn't seemed to affect the functionality of it. Not sure if mine was like this out of box, but i've had it less than 30 days and just recently noticed it. It won't concern me until the buttons stop working or i have to start pressing harder to activate them.
I just noticed after reading this thread that mine is the same. The home side is higher, where the "back" button is nearly flush. I've only had mine for about two weeks, but it must have been like this out of the box.
Sprint Touch Pro
Mine seems to be even and flush and does not move without my pressing it.
Manufacture Date: 12-2008
I would definitely look into having yours replaced if the plate is shifting around or not flush.
The 3 most annoying things on the phone are the lack of buttons / shortcuts like on my HTC Mogul, battery life (which is fixable with an extended battery), and how hot the phone gets after only a short time of use. Also the volume up/down button gets stuck in the down position occasionally.
I usually just lurk on these forums as I am completely new to android and still just getting to barely understand the basics. To thank everyone here for this tremendous redource, i wanted to share my solution forfinding the tablet buttons in the dark . I have some 1/8th automotive pinstriping that I use to mark my rock climbing gear. It's very durable but can easily be chipped off with a fingernail without leaving any residue. It's also thick enough that you can easily feel it with your fingertip. I put strips running from front to back in line where each button sits with a tiny bit overhanging the lip on the screen. if you cut it right you can feel the edge if you run your finger along the lip but it won't peel off if you get it right. Just be careful if you clean the screen with a microfiber cloth because it will snag on the edges. So noe ican feel where the buttons line up in the dark and my g tab has some wicked yet functional racing stripes. I went with reflective orange. i hear it adds a couple of ghz to the processor speed like flourescent paint adds hp to civics.
I hope someone finds this useful. I wouldn't have bothered buying this tablet if I hadn't learned from this forum about all the cool stuff i could do, and since have done to it. Many thanks to all of you for your hard work and continued enthusiasim.
I'm actually used to where the buttons are. I don't need to see them anymore to use them. In the dark, I hit it 95% of the time first time nowadays.
hey, i think that's a great idea. a fix that will work for users who don't want to mod the gtab in order to add LEDs.
would an autoparts store have that 1/8in pinstripe? i wonder how well it would go on over a skinomi?
@ffastfzr
Could you post some pics? Id really like to see what this looks like. It sounds like a great idea.
I'll see what I can do
The pinstriping is available at auto parts stores. It will stick to a clear coat on a car and pretty much anything you else you stick it to. So it should stick to a skin. I ordered mine online because I wanted highly reflective bright orange. Like I said I had it for my rock climbing gear. you get a distinctive color and size and then you wrap a little stripe on each piece of your gear like carabiners so your climbing partners don't walk away with them. The joke is that you trust your partners to hold the rope and potentially save your life, but you don't trust them to not walk off with your gear.
I'll take a couple of pics and post as soon as I can. My firm is having networking issues and I am about to get kicked offline until this evening.
pics of pinstriping
Sorry, DISASTER at work followed up with a case of lyme disease complete with 2 weeks worth of industrial strength antibiotics. My luck could certainly be better. Anyway, pics are attached. Sorry they aren't they greatest.
Button Savior is alot easier
button savior is nice. I also find that in the dark, hitting the back button is easy if you just put your thumb on the side of the screen and just slide it up. When it hits the back button, just stop
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Button Savior is alot easier
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Button savoir combined with Quick Boot, both free in the market can handle all the process of both the soft keys and the power button functions easily..
I like this Idea, if I switch to a rom other than VEGAn Ginger which has soft keys on the bottom I may try it out.
So I performed pretty much a full teardown. I left the screen in the front of the case, because I didn't really see a point in taking it off.
I had an Otterbox Defender before, but I took it back to Best Buy and picked up the Platinum Surface Case (Blue), so that is in one of the pictures. Everything else is stock.
Anyway, on with the information!
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The Camera button is loose! I found out why! The metal bar that runs below the button and the switch is only held in place with two screws that are on the far ends of the button and switch.
When you press down, the button actually bends the bar slightly before pressing fully. When I pressed the button in, it would feel like there were two clicks. Apparently the first click was just the metal button pressing down and touching the actual button (on the chip), and the second click was the actual button press.
I implemented the most ghetto fix ever for this (insert your jokes here). I literally took two thin cuts of packaging cardboard (from a super-glue box), and taped them together. They were about 1/16" thick each, so total it ended up just over 1/8" thick. Then it just rests in-between the metal beam, and the back plate for the phone (the piece the battery rests in). I was thinking of soldering something on, but then it would be a permanent change to the phone, which I didn't want.
The button on my phone is now rock-solid, and doesn't move at all unless pressed in. It now feels solid to the touch, and the only press that happens is the actual camera press. It feels much better now with this, but it makes me laugh to think of how I fixed it.
Chips on the board(s), in order of location. Each / represents a new line on the chips.
*Note: Not all chips are clearly labeled or easily identified.
Back of board - Facing up when looking at the phone face down
Top left chip (small chip):
AVAG0 / AFEM-S257 / P1121 / 60HG
Left chip (big chip middle left):
Samsung 119 / KMKLL[Can't make out letters here because of gold blob]UM-B406 / FDCA009B
Right bottom chip:
TPS / 65051 / TI 141 / A1D0
Right top chip:
ATMEL / MXT224 / C12QS509 / f2X774.1E
Front of board - Facing down when looking at the phone face down
*Note - The layout of the chips will be reversed if the board is still facing down. The layout is when the board is flipped over so you can actually see it.
Left chip:
PMM8160 / A10025.1 / F7117001
Top right chip:
SEQUANS / Communications / SQN1210 / PAN279.00.S 1 / 1121 / SGP
Also on this chip there is a circle with "e1" in it, and a rectangle with "G" in it.
Bottom right chip:
QUALCOMM / MSM8660 / BAU215.0 / C1119101
I believe the chip for the wifi is on the bottom of the phone? I could be wrong, might be GPS.
Front:
50H00649-32M-A / 2011/03/23
Back:
UT0020 C / 94V-0 / 1118
Chips attached to dual cameras
Small chip furthest away from cams:
6U7476 / 1091
Middle chip (biggest one):
1110 3M / SHARP / LR388G92 / JAPAN
Sticker in-between cams:
S100HA / 43035
Front LED and Front Camera chips
Small chip near camera:
168E6P / 1980
Big chip on side:
50H20371-51M-A 12 / 03/24/2011
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I have no idea if this information will help anyone with anything, but there it is. I tried to include as much detail as possible when I was looking at the chips and information on the boards.
Unmodified Pictures (Hosted on 4shared) all here: http://www.4shared.com/folder/2Ya7fS9_/FullPics.html
*Warning - Photos are not even shrunk in size. They are big pictures! 4608x3456
Modified Pictures (Hosted on 4shared) all here: http://www.4shared.com/folder/a8ndxVF0/ModifiedPics.html
*Note that these are all the pictures that are shown
Sorry about the images being hosted like this. I can only upload 8 pictures for attachments. I figured this would be the easiest method.
You can see them in a bigger size by clicking the picture you want to see.
These are out of order. They are in alphabetical order, not teardown order. Only one out of alphabetical order is the first one.
heh..so this is whatudoin
you couldn't zip those pics up on 4shared ..wow 3 pages ..lol
j/k
Lol I like how you point out Samsung hardware is in the 3d. :b good job. Now put it back together just how you got it! Or I'm telling mom
sent from my beasto 3d
Great pics thanks for posting them.
I get were your coming from on pad out but a little taken off on directions.
hmm I will hold tight for breakdown video that will show different angles of project.
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Great pics thanks for posting them.
I get were your coming from on pad out but a little taken off on directions.
hmm I will hold tight for breakdown video that will show different angles of project.
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It is about the easiest thing ever.
It is literally like this:
Camera button
Metal bar
Little ghetto fix
Back piece plastic
There is nothing in-between, and nothing holding it there other than the pressure of the case squeezing it. I didn't want to permanently modify the case. It's just a two pieces of packing cardboard taped together, but anything could be used.
It sits behind where the button is pressed, so it couldn't possibly interfere with the button, and it sits under the back plate of the phone, so it can be taken out if you just pop the back plate off.
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It is about the easiest thing ever.
It is literally like this:
Camera button
Metal bar
Little ghetto fix
Back piece plastic
There is nothing in-between, and nothing holding it there other than the pressure of the case squeezing it. I didn't want to permanently modify the case. It's just a two pieces of packing cardboard taped together, but anything could be used.
It sits behind where the button is pressed, so it couldn't possibly interfere with the button, and it sits under the back plate of the phone, so it can be taken out if you just pop the back plate off.
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ha ok I see were your coming from in pic.
Was the back cover tricky difficult to detach?
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Was the back cover tricky difficult to detach?
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Take the back cover off, battery out, SD card out.
Size T5 Torx screwdriver for the 4 corner screws, 2 NO:000 phillips-head screws for the middle two.
Then take a credit card and run it around the corners, and they just pop loose.
You shouldn't have to apply any force to remove it.
To do it though, you do have to break the little "security seal" that's on the bottom right torx screw. They put it there so they can tell if someone has opened up their phone.
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Take the back cover off, battery out, SD card out.
Size T5 Torx screwdriver for the 4 corner screws, 2 NO:000 phillips-head screws for the middle two.
Then take a credit card and run it around the corners, and they just pop loose.
You shouldn't have to apply any force to remove it.
To do it though, you do have to break the little "security seal" that's on the bottom right torx screw. They put it there so they can tell if someone has opened up their phone.
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Right on thanks much.
Ive owned mine for 2 days & have 7 day disassemble rule so next week I will get it done.
I was under the impression there was supposed to be 2 clicks with the camera button anyway. the first click focus's the camera and the second takes the photo.
Am I missing something?
btw, wish you would of looked a lil more at the 3d-2d switch and seen the reasoning for its loose play front to back. The thing is tight switching from top to bottom(3d->2D) but has lotta play front to back it seems.
sweet pics though, thanks for the tear down!
I'm pretty sure that the two click system was intentional...
First click is focus, second is take photo.
Lintrix said:
I'm pretty sure that the two click system was intentional...
First click is focus, second is take photo.
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I was under the impression there was supposed to be 2 clicks with the camera button anyway. the first click focus's the camera and the second takes the photo.
Am I missing something?
btw, wish you would of looked a lil more at the 3d-2d switch and seen the reasoning for its loose play front to back. The thing is tight switching from top to bottom(3d->2D) but has lotta play front to back it seems.
sweet pics though, thanks for the tear down!
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You 2 are correct, that 2 click system is there for a reason. One to focus and the 2nd to actually take the picture, much like all digital cameras.
Nice pics of the disassemble btw.
Lintrix said:
I'm pretty sure that the two click system was intentional...
First click is focus, second is take photo.
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Might be that way, but I feel like it's much more responsive now. Before it would be wobbly and take a few presses before it would actually work, or I'd have to hold the button for a bit. Now the button is much snappier.
The switch isn't loose at all now, it requires a bit of force to move the switch either way. There is a clear click sound whenever it gets pressed either way.
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The switch isn't loose at all now, it requires a bit of force to move the switch either way. There is a clear click sound whenever it gets pressed either way.
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/thumbs up/
I like that! Either way, Kudos on being a brave man to open her up and perform the surgery blind =P
Ok, I have much experience with everything, and this has made me so angry. I have the Sprint HTC View 4g. I cannot find where to put the sd card in the damn thing. What "back" comes off, how do you get it off? Ah, someone please tell me and then shoot me, ....in the face...
EDIT: GOT IT, MY GOD I'M GOING TO LOAD MY GUN NOW AND SHOOT MYSELF IN THE FACE, MODZ PLEASE DELETE..SORRY
Its very tight, press hard with your thumbs in the center of the upper back cover and push up and it will pop off.
Feels like you are going to break the thing in half
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EDIT: GOT IT, MY GOD I'M GOING TO LOAD MY GUN NOW AND SHOOT MYSELF IN THE FACE, MODZ PLEASE DELETE..SORRY
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No need to delete; aside from the fact that this has been discussed before (but not recently). Others have had difficulty with this, and may benefit from this thread.
I attached the image from the owners manual that shows where to press with your thumbs to get the cover off. I think my Flyer (Best Buy version) actually had these same instructions in a quick-start guide, or maybe even a sticker on the tablet itself. But I remember View owners commenting this was much more mysterious (even unmentioned) in their packaging. And many people would not think (at least at first) to download the full manual to find the instruction for this.
Its tricky and takes a good amount of force. But I also found it takes a little "technique" in pressing the right spot with your thumbs (pressing inward to disengage the plastic "hooks) while pushing the cover up. Its the kind of thing that takes forever and seems insanely difficult the first time you try. But once you get a feel for it, you can do it pretty easily.
Following video also shows how to remove the cover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDUvloxGg74
Its' behind the top back cover. here's how.
!1 place Flyer on table face down.
2. Get hammer
3.
Hello,
So, I received my Prime on 2/8/12 and I absolutely adore it. However, I have noticed that on the right side of my screen near the bottom, the very edges seem to be able to be depressed just slightly. The best word I can come up with is Spongy. If I press quickly I can hear where the case and the screen come together and click softly. There is no Creaking or anything.
Is this a known defect or is it just a soft spot on the case and there is nothing to worry about? So far I have not received a straight answer on it. It certainly doesn't effect anything. I have decent wifi connectivity in an old Cement Style Apartment and the screen is perfect. I walked in knowing the GPS wasn't going to work and had very little worry or interest in GPS in a tablet.
Thanks for your help!
Miles
I know exactly what you're saying...but I'm almost 100% sure that there's no issue here. It just happens to be a place where there's no clip to fully secure it and it doesn't come together exactly in that location, but it's not going to cause an issue.
That is what I was assuming as well. I wanted to make sure. I am so happy with this tablet thus far, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't looking at a defect. Takes a huge load off my mind and my wife's as well. For as much as we paid for it I would hate to see something small be the cause of some major flaw.
Thank you so much!
Hmm, It seems I have a Spongy spot on all sides of my tablet. Right side on the bottom (near where you would hold it in Landscape), On the top near the camera (I can actually feel alot of give here and hear the case clack against it when I even just hold it in Portrait mode), Just below the volume rocker and another beside the Power adapter area.
Sadly I am starting to think this isn't exactly normal. Am I the only one thinking it might be time to head back to office depot?
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Hmm, It seems I have a Spongy spot on all sides of my tablet. Right side on the bottom (near where you would hold it in Landscape), On the top near the camera (I can actually feel alot of give here and hear the case clack against it when I even just hold it in Portrait mode), Just below the volume rocker and another beside the Power adapter area.
Sadly I am starting to think this isn't exactly normal. Am I the only one thinking it might be time to head back to office depot?
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After reading this, I checked the spot by the camera, and I have that too. You really shouldn't worry about it though...they're WAY within tolerances for devices of this kind...I mean, it moves like what, 0.001mm?
My first one was the same way as it the one I just got as a replacement (I sent the first one in for an unrelated problem). I wouldn't worry too much about it.
So everyone says not to worry. I am really glad to hear that More people are having this problem than just myself. Yes it is a very slight movement, however, I was worried about it hindering the screen. I called office depot today and they said they would refund me if I wished. I think I will probably call off the refund. It is an amazing tablet and I love it to death. Hopefully nothing worse comes of it as time goes on.
I have a lot of thinking to do I suppose. I kind of feel like if I take the refund I am going to have to take a step backwards, due to the loss of the quad core. Though, between my wifes Dual core and my quad core I see very little difference between the two.