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Now that people have the phone in their hands, is it worth it to upgrade to the Evo 3D. Since there are rumors of the SGS2 (within) coming to sprint on the 24th of july, would people recommend waiting or just get the 3D now and calling it good?
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HTC=LEGENDARY
SAMSUNG=NO COMMENT
I love my evo 3D its godlike, 3D is actually bad ass, I thought it was going to be annoying/gimmicky lol.
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Honestly you could second guess yourself to death.....There's always going to be the next great phone that's just around the corner. I got my 3vo and I love it, plus personally I'd never by another Samsung phone in my life.....but that's my opinion. If you look at the phone, try it, like it, and can see yourself using it for 22 months go for it, if not wait for the next one.
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Honestly you could second guess yourself to death.....There's always going to be the next great phone that's just around the corner. I got my 3vo and I love it, plus personally I'd never by another Samsung phone in my life.....but that's my opinion. If you look at the phone, try it, like it, and can see yourself using it for 22 months go for it, if not wait for the next one.
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So you think samsung will be as bad with updates as they were with the previous galaxy phones? I had an epic but i returned it because of the screen wobble and froyo never coming
I guess the real question is will anything coming in the next month be honestly significantly faster than the EVO 3D? If not, then why wait
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Now that people have the phone in their hands, is it worth it to upgrade to the Evo 3D. Since there are rumors of the SGS2 (within) coming to sprint on the 24th of july, would people recommend waiting or just get the 3D now and calling it good?
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My personal opinion is get the Evo. Even if the SGS2 comes out in July, you can always swap. Also, most any phone thats going to come out in the group is going to perform more than adequately. I like the look and feel of the Evo 3d, and HTC has a history of dev support.
I don't know....maybe they turned over a new leaf, but in the past I've had too many problems with Samsung to give them another chance. I had my HTC HeroC for the last 16 months and it has been a wonderfull phone...now my son has it. Good quality, lots of potential, durable.....but hey these are just my own opinions. Go have a look for yourself, if you like it get it. It's a pretty safe bet that in the next month Sprint's not going to put out anything that's going to exceed this phones capabilities.
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I don't know....maybe they turned over a new leaf, but in the past I've had too many problems with Samsung to give them another chance. I had my HTC HeroC for the last 16 months and it has been a wonderfull phone...now my son has it. Good quality, lots of potential, durable.....but hey these are just my own opinions. Go have a look for yourself, if you like it get it. It's a pretty safe bet that in the next month Sprint's not going to put out anything that's going to exceed this phones capabilities.
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The problem is that Samsung's international support is better than for their US products. Whether this is squarely on Samsung's shoulders is up for debate. They at least appear to be trying to appeal to the mod scene and with more than just words. I like their AMOLED screen, but I like the high res of the Evo 3d. They both look like great phones, but the Evo 3d got here first.
I guess I'll just go for it. It does look like there are some issues, but of course you always hear more from the people with problems than those who are content. Plus HTC looks like it has been receptive to fixing problems.
Buy the E3D and if you don't like it you have 30 days to exchange it.
You do realize that Samsung has provided the CyanogenMod team with SGS2's? That means that Cyanogen will most likely use that phone as the base for his ROM.
Samsung is loosening up their hold on their phones and the specs on the SGS2 phone are sick. I'm holding off for that phone instead because I won't use 3D as I already get migraines.
I'll wait for the next best thing.
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I'll wait for the next best thing.
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And always be waiting? If sprint came and said officially the within was coming on july 24th, and samsung would give better updates than it did with the epic. I would wait. But is the galaxy s 2 (within) going to be significantly better than the 3D?
Hey guys,
I'm deciding between the 3VO and the sg2. I've looked up comparisons of the two and it seems that the hardware is better on sg2 and software is better on 3vo. I'm thinking that the 3vo would probably get better devolopment tho.
So convince me why I should get the 3vo, I really don't know! I saw that the sg2 is like $700-$800 no contract in the UK, if true. Ill get the 3vo. Do you guys think it really costs that much?
i made a mistake and bought a samsung phone, that will never happen again. its nice to have working gps on my evo 3d.
Development wise the EVO 3D will be better I'm sure. There's a lot of great developers on this phone right now and will be more coming
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Hey guys,
I'm thinking that the 3vo would probably get better devolopment tho.
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That depends on a number of factors, time being the most important. If our mighty developers crack the phone and/or HTC unlocks it in the 30 day return window (starting on the 24th of June) then there is nothing to worry about and I absolutely assure you that the best and most development will be going on here on the E3D scene...
...once we hit that 30 day window the amount of developer interest is going to sink quickly, not to mention the untold thousands of E3D handsets from twitchy users (like myself) who can't stand the thought of having a locked phone or a phone that is unlocked late in the game with a lame-duck dev community.
Samsung has been sending out SGS2's to developers....and it doesn't have an encryption-signed bootloader.
Search for the thread "hey check out how powerful the EVO 3d is" (something like that) and you will see that hardware is not really superior either way. You could argue it either way and still not be correct.
The above, combined with the reputation of both should make HTC an easy choice....at least in my opinion.
Plus you are right, the software and development side of the 3vo should be a lot better.
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I was in the same boat as you. I wanted to wait for the S2 to come out and compare but since my phone crapped out, I went with the 3D. Do we have a confirm release date for the S2 on Sprint yet?
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Development wise the EVO 3D will be better I'm sure. There's a lot of great developers on this phone right now and will be more coming
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If the developers are unable to crack the bootloader and HTC does not release the unlocked bootloader, then there will be almost 0 development on our phone.
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I was in the same boat as you. I wanted to wait for the S2 to come out and compare but since my phone crapped out, I went with the 3D. Do we have a confirm release date for the S2 on Sprint yet?
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No. There hasn't even been an official statement indicating that it is coming to Sprint. Last year I believe the phones arrival to Sprint was announced in mid-late July. Then, in early August the late August release date was announced. Looks like we may be seeing the same trend. Sadly, if the E3D is not unlocked soon, I may be getting an SGS2 as well though vastly prefer HTC's products over Samsung's.
If the SGS2 came out the same time I probably wouldve picked it over the 3d. In almost all reviews I've read that SGS2 is fast and unable to be slowed down. Tegra 2 games also will play once you root it and install chainfire. Look at this lengthy review below and I recommend watching some of the video comparisons with some other phones. If theres no full root on the 3d and as long as there's an official announcement of the SGS2 (regardless if its coming july or august)within 30 days that I've had my 3d then mines probably also going back.
http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/sho...l-done-now-links-inside-for-anyone-interested...
July 24th is the highly anticipated yet unofficial release date.
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July 24th is the highly anticipated yet unofficial release date.
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That's just way too easy....
...though if Samsung had anything to do with it it was a brilliant maneuver.
If the phone came out tomorrow I would say the GSII. Development on the 3D is dead in the water & looks to stay that way unless HTC decides to unlock the bootloader & nand. Pound for pound the GSII looks to be the better phone hardwise if your read all of the reviews. But history tells us that Samsung is notorious for not supporting their devices & the dev community seems to like HTC products better but that may change with the 3D/Sensation debacle that is unfolding & Samsung seems to be catching on with support. Hard one to call right now. I'm gonna upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Prime if they come to Sprint but if this bootloader/nand situation doesn't get straightend out before 30 days the 3D is going back & I'll just have the OG Evo & GSII/Prime.
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I had Verizon's version of the Galaxy S 1 and it was a huge disappointment. Not because of the hardware... the hardware as awesome which is why I bought it... but because of Samsung bloat, touchwiz and having to wait 6+ months for the 2.2 update to roll out. I wouldn't touch a Galaxy S 2 until Samsung shows they're able to support a phone for more than a month.
(Unless HTC fails to unlock their bootloader, in that case I'd swallow my pride and move to an S2)
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If the phone came out tomorrow I would say the GSII. Development on the 3D is dead in the water & looks to stay that way unless HTC decides to unlock the bootloader & nand. Pound for pound the GSII looks to be the better phone hardwise if your read all of the reviews. But history tells us that Samsung is notorious for not supporting their devices & the dev community seems to like HTC products better but may change with the 3D/Sensation debacle that is unfolding & Samsung seems to be catching on with support. Hard one to call right now. I'm gonna upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Prime if they come to Sprint but if this bootloader/nand situation doesn't get straightend out before 30 days the 3D is going back & I'll just have the OG Evo & GSII/Prime.
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I'm with you man... I just took a peek into the GSII forum and, um, yeah, I think my mind is made up. Most of that would be good for us with minimal tweaking I'd imagine...
Way to go HTC.
Smeed said:
I had Verizon's version of the Galaxy S 1 and it was a huge disappointment. Not because of the hardware... the hardware as awesome which is why I bought it... but because of Samsung bloat, touchwiz and having to wait 6+ months for the 2.2 update to roll out. I wouldn't touch a Galaxy S 2 until Samsung shows they're able to support a phone for more than a month.
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who cares about mfgr support? If the hardware is good and the is a dev community...well...I'm in. GS2 already has most of CM7 ready....CDMA version would likely require a little tweaking, but, likely not much.
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who cares about mfgr support? If the hardware is good and the is a dev community...well...I'm in. GS2 already has most of CM7 ready....CDMA version would likely require a little tweaking, but, likely not much.
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Mfgr support goes a long way, especially when major updates are concerned. Take the Epic for example. Before the official Froyo update we had a few leaks & ROMS built off those leaks but none of them (and I tried them all) came without a major bug or flaw. It's always better to base a ROM off of a official update rather than a leaked one.
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Mfgr support goes a long way, especially when major updates are concerned. Take the Epic for example. Before the official Froyo update we had a few leaks & ROMS built off those leaks but none of them (and I tried them all) came without a major bug or flaw. It's always better to base a ROM off of a official update rather than a leaked one.
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There were no pure AOSP offerings? I am obviously not familiar at all with the landscape on the Samsung side of things--I ditched my moment for my EVO4G and haven't looked back....But I'd imagine that as long as they release their kernel source there would be a handful of pure AOSP roms, at the least....I see CM7 is almost together for the GS2, I'd imagine there would be the usual collection of CM based roms at the very least. I also see MIUI is being maintained for the GS2 already...
...just supply the kernel source and update the radios as needed. I'm well familiar with Samsung's desire to never update anything past release.
SGSII is awesome, I watched a hands on video of it last night, made me excited. LOL
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SGSII is awesome, I watched a hands on video of it last night, made me excited. LOL
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Made me excited too till I read the forums if people who have it......lots of issues it seems.
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It's looking like the sgs2 for me as well. Quality on the evo 3d just doesn't seem to be there
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I have my MoPho rooted but there are only 2 roms for it. If you go over and look at the Atrix developers forum they have a ton of support.
The phones are similar, why isn't there much rom development for the Photon as there is the Atrix.
Does anyone know if the Cyanogen Mod is going to be made to work for the photon?
before anyone else says it. GO LEARN HOW TO DEVELOP AND MAKE YOUR OWN ROM
just saving everyone the trouble. i dont really mean it lol
We got source last week and the devs disappeared we will have new roms real soon
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easier said than done. About 13yrs ago I was into development with computers and stuff but a LOT has changed since then. I wouldn't know where to start now days.
MoPho said:
easier said than done. About 13yrs ago I was into development with computers and stuff but a LOT has changed since then. I wouldn't know where to start now days.
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here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060199
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here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060199
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Well that would be useful if I had time to learn everything and create roms myself.
the sgs2 for sprint was announced. this phone was horribly placed in terms of release dates. a lot of people jumped on the evo3d bandwagon, now the sgs2 is coming out soon and not too long after is the release of the new nexus.
once the epic touch is released expect these forums to die down a lot more... unless the et4g sucks... in which we might get a few more users
I heard the et4g kills baby kittens. Does that help?
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the sgs2 for sprint was announced. this phone was horribly placed in terms of release dates. a lot of people jumped on the evo3d bandwagon, now the sgs2 is coming out soon and not too long after is the release of the new nexus.
once the epic touch is released expect these forums to die down a lot more... unless the et4g sucks... in which we might get a few more users
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Shabby are you staying with us or leaving for the sgs2?
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i got my photon on the way, i have no interest in teh sgs2, the next phone i want is teh nexus prime
shabbypenguin said:
i got my photon on the way, i have no interest in teh sgs2, the next phone i want is teh nexus prime
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Do it up son!!
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I just got the Photon and am going to work on porting CyanogenMod to it... so expect that as an option when I finish it. Not sure how difficult it will be since this is my first Moto device.
This is the first phone that I was happy with out of the box. But with development, well at my age, its better than sex! Lol
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bricky23 said:
This is the first phone that I was happy with out of the box. But with development, well at my age, its better than sex! Lol
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mrinehart93 said:
I just got the Photon and am going to work on porting CyanogenMod to it... so expect that as an option when I finish it. Not sure how difficult it will be since this is my first Moto device.
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I'm out of thanks for the day, but you will get one soon enough from me I'm sure. That being said, how hard is 'porting' and what exactly does that mean? I think I get the idea but how is it done really?
I would love to learn how to do this. I am slowly getting into theming a little, but am no where close to releasing anything yet, first off I am a perfectionist and second I am just learning the basics now.
Would love to start reading up on the whole porting aspect of stuff.
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Djspinister said:
I'm out of thanks for the day, but you will get one soon enough from me I'm sure. That being said, how hard is 'porting' and what exactly does that mean? I think I get the idea but how is it done really?
I would love to learn how to do this. I am slowly getting into theming a little, but am no where close to releasing anything yet, first off I am a perfectionist and second I am just learning the basics now.
Would love to start reading up on the whole porting aspect of stuff.
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-DJ
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Porting is basically making the proper changes for the rom/kernel/theme to be compatible with another device. Just do a Google search and you can find other threads talking about it.
If you don't have any code experience it will be tough going to learn. If you are already trying to learn how to theme than this is good place to start because knowing the directory structure and where things are located will help.
shabbypenguin said:
i got my photon on the way, i have no interest in teh sgs2, the next phone i want is teh nexus prime
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Yeah I do too, but I'm not going back to big red. I think that it's a Verizon exclusive so far.
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no the tech sites need to read between the lines. was there a nexus being shown off around big v's hq? yea.. wanna guess why? because out of the top four carriers in teh us they are the only ones without a nexus device..
there are rumors of verizon getting a droid prime which if thats the case yet again they will be without a nexus device (cant call it something else) my guess is because they want the hardware but their carrier bloat crap on it
The photon is an awsome phone and with tegra 2 thd games it beats my gfs evo shift hands down. I tried the evo3d and wasnt impressed. Its really buggy and likes to get stuck in 3d mode. The sales rep even told me to go with the photon which was cheaper meaning less commissions. She had came from doing repairs to sales and she said the evo3d was a waste of money and told me all the horror stories they were having at the repair center with them.
I know sprint has some phones comimg out soon that are going to be better but work with what we have first.
I found my old htc tilt and it still has more dev than the photon.
Im someone who isnt all about games. I like preformance, battery life and apps to make my day more productive.
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I think a lot of Sprint customers were like me... the MoPho came out, we yawned, and had zero interest in it regardless of specs because it was Motorola... and we all knew Motorola was the essence of pure toxic TiVO-ized evil in AT&T/Verizon-land. They encrypted their bootloaders in ways that couldn't be trivially cracked, and bent over backwards to lock down everything they could.
Then Google bought Motorola, the sun came out, the birds started singing, the sourcecode got released, and suddenly the MoPho became interesting.
Ok I'm on a Epic right now, but my wife and youngest have EVO 3d's and they rock as good as my rooted Epic, so I'm thinking about getting one, only problem is I hate stock phones for all the obvious reasons, so I started reading here and I can't believe it you guys have actually rooted a EVO3D?
WOW, makes my decision to get one easy doesn't it, although it'll be next April when I do its nice to know I'll have root and roms a waiting
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Ok I'm on a Epic right now, but my wife and youngest have EVO 3d's and they rock as good as my rooted Epic, so I'm thinking about getting one, only problem is I hate stock phones for all the obvious reasons, so I started reading here and I can't believe it you guys have actually rooted a EVO3D?
WOW, makes my decision to get one easy doesn't it, although it'll be next April when I do its nice to know I'll have root and roms a waiting
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I'm afraid next April you won't find an EVO 3D for sale (maybe eBay/Craigslist). By then the EVO 4G LTE will be almost a year old and will soon be replaced (usually new flagship EVOs drop in June/July).
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Ok I'm on a Epic right now, but my wife and youngest have EVO 3d's and they rock as good as my rooted Epic, so I'm thinking about getting one, only problem is I hate stock phones for all the obvious reasons, so I started reading here and I can't believe it you guys have actually rooted a EVO3D?
WOW, makes my decision to get one easy doesn't it, although it'll be next April when I do its nice to know I'll have root and roms a waiting
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The EVO3d has been out for awhile... How is it hard to believe that xda devs rooted it?
Evo 3d FTW
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I'm afraid next April you won't find an EVO 3D for sale (maybe eBay/Craigslist). By then the EVO 4G LTE will be almost a year old and will soon be replaced (usually new flagship EVOs drop in June/July).
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And it'll take you guys about what, two hours to root that too?
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The EVO3d has been out for awhile... How is it hard to believe that xda devs rooted it?
Evo 3d FTW
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Cause I never bothered to look considering how fast that thing works all stock and how good every thing runs on it.
Evo 3d
you can buy them on amazon thats where i got mine and it was worth every penny
I can order one form Sprint I was just on their site and its only $199, woopie, thats $199 more than I have LOL PLUS I get to sign another 2 year contract, guess I'll wait till April and see whats what then.
So the road for me and my Evo 3D has been a short one, i've laughed and nearly cried over updates, parts of my phone which don't work (3D) and i've finally had enough of this piece of sh** and i'm off to grab a nice quad core sgs3 because i've also had enough of HTC sh**ting on me, i'd like some new sh** from samsung please.
On top of that I do like the One X
Does anyone have any relevant reason why i shouldn't make the switch to either of these belters? Besides the fact that i'd be running two contracts at the same time? As my evo has still got around 19 months left on it.
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So the road for me and my Evo 3D has been a short one, i've laughed and nearly cried over updates, parts of my phone which don't work (3D) and i've finally had enough of this piece of sh** and i'm off to grab a nice quad core sgs3 because i've also had enough of HTC sh**ting on me, i'd like some new sh** from samsung please.
On top of that I do like the One X
Does anyone have any relevant reason why i shouldn't make the switch to either of these belters? Besides the fact that i'd be running two contracts at the same time? As my evo has still got around 19 months left on it.
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First off, don't blame HTC for updates, they already made it. Blame sprint. HTC gave them the ics update months ago.
And I say that you should get the one x. Because on Samsung, touchwiz is nice, but you end up missing sense afterwards.
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dladz said:
So the road for me and my Evo 3D has been a short one, i've laughed and nearly cried over updates, parts of my phone which don't work (3D) and i've finally had enough of this piece of sh** and i'm off to grab a nice quad core sgs3 because i've also had enough of HTC sh**ting on me, i'd like some new sh** from samsung please.
On top of that I do like the One X
Does anyone have any relevant reason why i shouldn't make the switch to either of these belters? Besides the fact that i'd be running two contracts at the same time? As my evo has still got around 19 months left on it.
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I see your in London, is that correct? What is the shooter like over there on your network? I would think all this phone really ever needed was a decent 3g network and a dose of ics. I have been switching between myn's 2 roms (gb\ics) and meanrom and i think it still performs very well. If i had to switch i might lean towards samsung based on this article....http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/08/...s-iii-in-the-us-is-giving-samsung-a-backbone/
If you want lots of updates: Galaxy Nexus.
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First off, don't blame HTC for updates, they already made it. Blame sprint. HTC gave them the ics update months ago.
And I say that you should get the one x. Because on Samsung, touchwiz is nice, but you end up missing sense afterwards.
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He's on GSM; you can't blame sprint. HTC is slow to update on all carriers. Lack of updates aren't HTC's only problem though, their other problem is using ridiculously proprietary hardware (so AOSP based roms are basically impossible) and the fact that they lock down their bootloaders and give you a really crappy alternative unlock.
I've moved on to the galaxy nexus, and I'm never going to get another HTC phone again.
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First off, don't blame HTC for updates, they already made it. Blame sprint. HTC gave them the ics update months ago.
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He lives in UK
OT: go for One X
I made the same move(still have Evo) and its great phone
dladz said:
parts of my phone which don't work (3D) and i've finally had enough of this piece of sh** and i'm off to grab a nice quad core sgs3 because i've also had enough of HTC sh**ting on me, i'd like some new sh** from samsung please.
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Totally disagree. The Evo 3d is not a piece of ****. 3D works fine. HTC is not to blame here. The phone is as good as it was when you bought it. No need to insult it and HTC and the EVO 3d community now. HTC doesn't owe you anything.
There are other phones out there that are faster, bigger screens and so on. You are welcome to move onto anyone one of them. Go for it.
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Besides the fact that i'd be running two contracts at the same time? As my evo has still got around 19 months left on it.
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Sounds like you got lots and lots of money. So, you need the best, biggest and baddest phone out there. Must be nice.
I bought this phone outright. Never had a contract. Just reload my sim card and I'm good to go. I love the EVO 3d. Finally got Turge's ICS rom running great on it.
I wish you well in whatever forums you end up in. Peace dude.
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dladz said:
, i'd like some new sh** from samsung please.
On top of that I do like the One X
Does anyone have any relevant reason why i shouldn't make the switch to either of these belters?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683945
Don't move anywhere expecting a problem free experience.
But its up to you.
Honestly I say screw the usual suspects & buy the Asus Padphone & all the extras.
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My opinion: HTC One x
Root it install cm9 and you are good
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