Has anyone noticed the calculator on this phone. Where is quality control by HTC?
Most software developers would not of let this screw up get pass their quality control screeners! Also, I noticedthe default font resolution for the phone is small compared the the evo 4g. I wonder what else was over looked by HTC! Pretty shady for a large cell phone manufacturing company to let this get pass them! Microsoft or Apple wouldn't of released this mistake.
Whats wrong with the calculator? I dont see anything screwed up
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Do you mean to imply that an inconsequential, basic, simple app like the calculator and a smaller font size means that HTC has poor quality control?
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1. I can see where you would think the calculator is "messed up" ...but it isn't. Have the numbers aligned to the absolute bottom right corner of each box was a design choice by HTC, not some sort of screw up.
2. Also, with the default font resolution: Of course it is going to be smaller. The screen is roughly the same size with a MUCH higher resolution. Example: You can have a 21" monitor and in 800x600 resolution, the text is going to be huge and blocky...however, if you switch the resolution to the much higher 1920x1080, the text will be much smaller and much more crisp.
...In short, neither of the things you mentioned are any sort of "screw up" or "quality control issue"
Have you considered that the font is small because this Is a really high resolution screen? So everything is really clear anyways.
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ummm my calculator button fonts is huge!
DomSim said:
ummm my calculator button fonts is huge!
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same here, the numbers do not fit.
Again, design choice by HTC...not any sort of resolution problem.
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Again, design choice by HTC...not any sort of resolution problem.
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Of course it CAN'T be that..CLEARLY HTC didn't actually use the app on the phone so they never noticed they sized the numbers incorrectly THey just whipped the phone up real quick and shipped it out. Didn't bother with pesky things like testing
Where are people finding these "small font" text areas? Everything seems generously sized to me???
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Anyone have this issue with some Apps and games not looking right on the streak's screen? One example is the game traffic jam. The cars aren't properly centered, also the game moron test. And also a weather radar app. There's a couple more and they all work perfectly fine on my girlfriends evo, but not on my steak. They have the same resolution, guess the dpi is different?
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Yeah, I've experience this with quite a few games and apps. Especially with Blow Up which is annoying as its an awesome game, but I can only complete half the levels as the levels I can't do are the ones with explosive barrels on the right which for some reason have shifted into the middle of the screen thus overlapping the area you need to blow up, so as soon as you trigger an explosion, the planks of wood always shift and the barrels explode instantly I couldn't understand why it was like this as like you say, the other phones have the same resolution, but I never considered the dpi!
Blow up works fine on my Streak, stock 1.6.
Here's what the look like, gonna email the developers from whenever I run into this problem.
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Blow up works fine on my Streak, stock 1.6.
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All 80 levels? e.g. level 12 is the first level that I can't do because the barrels on the right overlap the building. I'm running stock 1.6 too
Another game is Abduction, the background fills the screen but the platforms only appear in the top left had corner of the screen roughly the size of a normal screen, just like the Traffic Jam pic above!
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All 80 levels? e.g. level 12 is the first level that I can't do because the barrels on the right overlap the building.
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Same here, I reached that level and couldn't find anyway to reduce the building with the barrels integrated in that manner; I just thought it was incredibly difficult, and not insoluble due to DPI shift!
i was thinking about it and pretty sure its the DPI. Since these apps and games work on other devices with the same resolution, the streak takes advantage of the big screen by actually using the size rather than just stretching to fit the screen. So its kind of good and bad at the same time. Good because its utilizing its screen real estate, and bad cuz of these issues we're facing :/
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i was thinking about it and pretty sure its the DPI. Since these apps and games work on other devices with the same resolution, the streak takes advantage of the big screen by actually using the size rather than just stretching to fit the screen. So its kind of good and bad at the same time. Good because its utilizing its screen real estate, and bad cuz of these issues we're facing :/
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I saw an app in the Market "LCD Density Changer" that lets you adjust the DPI of your device. It required root to use, and wasn't free but maybe it would help?
Dell has definitely changed the Streak's DPI as you can see when you compare say how many Market apps are shown in a list view on a Streak vs. say a Droid X. They're both 480x800 screens but the streak shows about 30% more info (apps) per screen, I'd guess some game/app developers don't expect an/or compensate for this possibility.
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Same here, I reached that level and couldn't find anyway to reduce the building with the barrels integrated in that manner; I just thought it was incredibly difficult, and not insoluble due to DPI shift!
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Just to confirm, I'm using the lite version and have just completed level 12, the barrels don't come anywhere near the building on my screen.
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Another game is Abduction, the background fills the screen but the platforms only appear in the top left had corner of the screen roughly the size of a normal screen, just like the Traffic Jam pic above!
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How very odd, my abduction is the other way round.
I have the background only filling say a Nexus size screen but the platforms fill the screen, it's uber easy now!
Ok guys, after further inspection I realized the dpi is NOT the issue. The problem lays with the aspect ratio. The streak is MDPI 160 but the aspect ratio is "long" (think of it as a widescreen tv) as opposed to "not long" (4:3 tv)
See http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html#qualifiers
And a short explanation at http://android.amberfrog.com/?p=478
If you run into this issue I suggest you email the developer. I have emailed about 5 so far, one replied and said they can't fix the issue unless I buy them a streak! Haha I told him he could keep his $0.99 app and my 1 star review instead.
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Also Speed Anatomy don't shows correctly
I have same problem with couple of apps. So far none of these are essential.
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Hello,
i didn't find any topic regarding the sharpeness of the Optimus One, so i created a new one. Well, i bought this phone for my wife and i'am really suprised about the great quality of this phone. I use myself a Galaxy S and so i'am a little bit spoiled regarding the display. But i have already seen that the sharpness could be better with a 480x320 resolution (e.g. Sony Ericsson X8). The X8 has a better sharpness related to the small texts in the settings menu. So, is there a possiblity to get a better sharpness on the Optimus One?
Sorry to say but you cannot do much.
You can only change system font with something smoother. That's the only thing you can do.
You can't change anything. X8 text looks "sharper" just because of a smaller screen (0,2inch).
I agree with heino81.
Screen quality is rather poor.
The screen of the Galaxy i7500 (oled) was in another league.
It is poor but you can enjoy the speed of the phone + it never runs out of ram !
I miss indeed the i7500's OLED screen. It was excelent, but it was only a nice looking phone, the lack of ram kept it out.
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Sorry to say but you cannot do much.
You can only change system font with something smoother. That's the only thing you can do.
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Do you have any link regarding good system fonts?
There are some here on the forum. I will post the link when I get home.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801160
I use ubuntu one!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801160
I use ubuntu one!
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Thanks, I downloaded it (edit - ubuntu 10.10) and it's quite a bit better than the standard font.
However, there are still some anti-aliasing problems (notably with bigger black letters on a white background), which are probably due to the 256k colors of the screen (the right gradations of grey may not be addressable or something like that)
about AA
I personally don't understand the propagation of antialiasing on a low resolution device. It makes the font blurry and causes lots of small input lags when you zoom or scroll. Even on my desktop computer when I first tried windows vista a few years ago, the first thing I did was turning the font smoothing off. Too bad there's no choice for that here.
As far as the sharpness of texts, no, there's really nothing we can do about it. The screen they put in the O1 was not designed to display a lot of pixels, unfortunately.
On my boyfriend's O1, I find that we can't use certain widgets because they look just horrible on his screen (clockr, D3 clock and some other minimalistic widgets that display lines and numbers/letters only).
I suppose it's unfair to the O1 because we're comparing it against high res phones (im using an x10), but LG could've given it a better screen cos it kinda ruins the experience.
Any know the dpi of the touchpads screen? cant get info on it anywhere
1024x768 over 9.7 inches comes out to 131.96 DPI.
Sounds rather odd....
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Sounds rather odd....
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Not really, its the EXACT screen dimensions as the iPad(2). Its a 4:3 1024x768 9.7" screen.
http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
looks like 131 is correct.
*oh, and why the hell is this stickied... all these threads should be linked to in a 'read first sticky' thread... this is obscene how many god damn stickies there are... Whatever mod is doing this is going overboard.
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Not really, its the EXACT screen dimensions as the iPad(2). Its a 4:3 1024x768 9.7" screen.
http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
looks like 131 is correct.
*oh, and why the hell is this stickied... all these threads should be linked to in a 'read first sticky' thread... this is obscene how many god damn stickies there are... Whatever mod is doing this is going overboard.
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What I ment was 131 Seems rather and odd DPI that is all. Im used to dealing with rounded of numbers like 160 & 240.
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What I ment was 131 Seems rather and odd DPI that is all. Im used to dealing with rounded of numbers like 160 & 240.
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It's the same screen as the ipad. Same manufacturer as well (LG). All intensive purposes, it is the same screen.
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It's the same screen as the ipad. Same manufacturer as well (LG). All intensive purposes, it is the same screen.
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Damn, I promise I am not usually like this, but I have to do this:
"for all intents and purposes"
Its way dimmer than an ipad though...hopefully someone finds a way to make this thing brighter
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I think the idea is to coral all the posts into a manageable order for later redistribution.
just like the fire sale , this could get ugly and disorganized fast.
I thank the mods for taking whatever steps to prepare/maintain.
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Its way dimmer than an ipad though...hopefully someone finds a way to make this thing brighter
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Brightless slider in the top-right menu. Or were you referring to it on full brightness (I don't have an iPad to compare to)?
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Brightless slider in the top-right menu. Or were you referring to it on full brightness (I don't have an iPad to compare to)?
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So your telling me if the screen breaks, Just replace with an iPad screen+digitizer? Or am I clutching at parts?
if the screen is similar to the ipad, why does it seem so low quality?
I was on my new one all night, and I cant get over the poor quality of display.
I was just browsing, blogging and it just looks so bad compared to my work ipad or the playbook I'm currently demo'ing.
could it be the browser, websites, or is there a patch I need? Really making me question my purchase.
I think people are confusing DPI with PPI. PPI is pixels per inch, which is the 131 being tossed out. DPI is how the screen is seen by software. Dont know what it is for the touchpad, but figured I'd try and clear some confusion.
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Lmao u paid $99-150 for it...y complain?
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Wow, thanks for such a useful reply.
To everyone else, is this just how the display is going to look? Or will an Android port or additional webOs updates provide some help?
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Well milhouse I was just stating that u paid $100 lmao. The display looks crisp and sharp
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No, if you put the TP side by side with the iPad 2 (hell, with the original iPad), you can notice a BIG difference in the display quality. I think that is the way the software handles the screen. Colors do look WAY sharper and crisper on the ipad vs the TP.
Its the exact same lg screen from the ipad 2, hell you could take the ipad 2 screen out and put it in the touchpad.. android port may fix it if not we'll see some voodoo colors.
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Its the exact same lg screen from the ipad 2, hell you could take the ipad 2 screen out and put it in the touchpad.. android port may fix it if not we'll see some voodoo colors.
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I did some lookin:
TP and iPad 1 use LP097X02-SLA1
iPad 2 uses LP097X02-SLN1
Don't know what the differences are. I don't know why the touchpad screen isn't as bright as the ipad either. (Perhaps the touchpad software simply doesn't allow it to go that high? Perhaps in that case, an android release could? Though I've heard many complain that the ipad is blindingly bright.)
Interestingly enough, samsung is coming out with a 10.1" retina touch display. Will apple get their hands on it? Probably not, actually:
http://www.tipb.com/2011/05/13/sams...olution-display-paving-retina-display-ipad-3/
I think there must be differences between displays. I've found mine to be very bright. I leave the brightness slider around 30% and find that's very bright, even a bit too bright when using in a darkened room.
I find the colours aren't particularly vibrant in general use, but the they are in the Angry Birds loading screen, so I'd guess that there's some kind of tone down colour profile set in the OS somewhere.
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So your telling me if the screen breaks, Just replace with an iPad screen+digitizer? Or am I clutching at parts?
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not exactly I'd think. While they use the same screen, they don't use the same bezel dimensions IIRC. Bezel is part of the screen, so buying the slightly different iPad one wouldn't work I don't think.
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I think there must be differences between displays. I've found mine to be very bright. I leave the brightness slider around 30% and find that's very bright, even a bit too bright when using in a darkened room.
I find the colours aren't particularly vibrant in general use, but the they are in the Angry Birds loading screen, so I'd guess that there's some kind of tone down colour profile set in the OS somewhere.
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turn off auto dimming in screen and lock setting give much brighter display.
I purchased the Photon on release day and have had no problems with it (shutoffs, reboots, screen of death, etc.). I came from an Iphone 4 on AT&T because I wanted unlimited data. My only gripe is what appears to be touchscreen sensitivity/preciseness.
When I look at my Photon with the screen turned off in the sunlight at an angle, I can see a grid of boxes that appears to be the touchsensing grid. When I look at an Iphone the same way, I can see a similar type of grid.
The difference in the grids is substantial, the Photon grid boxes are significantly larger than those on the Iphone.
I've noticed that in general, the Photon has worse touch sensitivity than the Iphone 4 did. Making exact screen presses on website links, for example, is simply not as fluid or precise. Not even the unlock keypad works as well.
I haven't had an opportunity to look at the Epic Touch (GS2), I'm wondering what the grid is like on this phone?
Anybody else here notice a lack of preciseness with the Photon touchscreen? Is it an Android issue or a hardware issue?
The grids are becuase the screen has an arrangement of pixels and subpixels called PenTile Matrix, which makes it appear as if it had more resolution than it actually does.
That does not affect, however, the touchscreen quality. The SGS2 does not have the square thingy.
You have too much time on your hands.
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You have too much time on your hands.
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Ha ha
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robinrisk said:
The grids are becuase the screen has an arrangement of pixels and subpixels called PenTile Matrix, which makes it appear as if it had more resolution than it actually does.
That does not affect, however, the touchscreen quality. The SGS2 does not have the square thingy.
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No, I am familiar with the pentile nature of the screen.
l am referring directly to the capacitive matrix grid above the lcd used to sense finger presses. The grid squares are very large in comparison to the iPhone. That makes me wonder if the touchscreen is less accurate. Look at both phones with the screen at an angle in direct sunlight. Each has a grid.
I would definitely agree its not at fluid as other phones I've used but damn can it be touchy. Scrolling down a webpage always seems to end up in a unintended click for me.
Yeah mine can be touchy as well. Mostly with the xda app
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I just got my Radar in the mail today and I have to say, my first impressions are very good. I'm coming from Android so when I saw the kind of dated specs for this phone, I was a little hesitant. But just like the all the reviews say, this phone is buttery smooth with plenty of power. You can't judge this phone against Android cause it's two different OS's. Windows doesn't need the horsepower that Android needs and the software integration with the hardware is tight and beautiful.
Love the hardware as well. Coming from a Galaxy S, I was happy with the performance but the phone was just too cheap and plasticy for me to ever REALLY love it's looks. The weight and unibody construction on this phone is awesome and I love it.
The unremovable battery might have been a deal breaker for me with a high end Android phone as I had an extra battery for my Galaxy S. But all the reviews said this phone gets well over a day of with moderate use so I'm not sweating that anymore.
NO LIKE::: There's not much I don't like and it's gonna take me a little longer than a few hours to get used to this phone. However, there is one thing about this OS that is bothering me. Font size!! Lets start with the browser....No setting in the browser to make the webpage larger like in android. And when you try to zoom in, the text doesn't re-flow. Also, font size in the people section like in your twitter feed is small as well. I don't have the best eyes but they're already starting to hurt. This complaint is pretty minor but in a way, it's major as well. If you get tired of using certain features on your phone cause it makes your eyes hurt, then that's kinda of a problem.
Overall though, love this phone and I'm happy with the purchase.
Oh and one more thing to add. The call quality isn't very good at all.
The text reflows if you double tap. It's by design.
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The text reflows if you double tap. It's by design.
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Yes but only a little bit. The text still isn't large enough for me to comfortably read, at least for a long time. I'm talking about pinching and zooming as close as you want and the words re-wrap to fit the screen like in Android, so you don't have to scroll back and forth. Other than that, I'm happy with the browser. I think it's a smoother experience on WP7.
And honestly, my complaint above about small font throughout the OS is starting to get to me even more. The things I do most on a phone are taking in info, like browsing my favorite sites, Twitter, Facebook, and RSS. And all these processes hurt my eyes after a while. Example, look at the Facebook app. The font is small cause the top of the screen is taken up by FACEBOOK and then the tittle of the page like MOST RECENT. I actually love the facebook app, it's just the small font I hate. I wish I had a bigger phone cause I think it would be Ok if it was a 4.3 inch screen or so.
In the end, I hate to say it cause I love this OS but I think i'm gonna sell this phone. I'll just have to wait until a bigger phone comes out or Microsoft makes it an option to make the font bigger everywhere. It sucks cause this OS is so much more beautiful and cohesive than anything else. I'm a big fan, but my eyes aren't letting me enjoy the experience. I hope to be back to WP7 soon.
seanp666 htc titan has a very big screen. try that.
sala91 said:
seanp666 htc titan has a very big screen. try that.
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text wouldnt be any better oneit since the pexel density is so low.. reviewers said they had to zoom in to see most stuff on browser clear, a shame =/
stratax i dissagree. to me titan is so big i dont zoom anything there
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stratax i dissagree. to me titan is so big i dont zoom anything there
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Thats weird, couple reviews i saw said it was pixelated when you looked closely and text wasnt that clear
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Thats weird, couple reviews i saw said it was pixelated when you looked closely and text wasnt that clear
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For reference, it has a higher PPI than an iPhone 3GS. So...
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For reference, it has a higher PPI than an iPhone 3GS. So...
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and that screen was tiny haha. here is what everyone is saying.
"The HTC Titan is quite large thanks to its 4.7-inch display. We were slightly disappointed to find that the resolution for this LCD is standard WVGA–480 x 800 pixels. This means the dots per inch (dpi) specification will be quite low, and users may be able to make out individual pixels in some situations, which can be unpleasant when reading text. However, it should make viewing videos a joy, especially when sharing the screen with friends."
I would love to check out the phone myself. but dont have $600 to put into one lol.
even if you can see things fine.. why would they put qHD on the sensation and then 720p display on the rezound, etc. but not the titan when it has a even BIGGER screen? that just confuses me xD maybe it has something to do with WP7.
i just got one radar for my wife.... i like the size and the aluminium body.. the camera is good, and takes panorama shots as well..
smoother then my HD7...
I'm coming from the hd7 also. And I find the size of the radar and its screen to be to annoying. Font size is an issue for me as well. The plus? WiFi tethering.
So, is the tethering free? It was so easy to activate and use, but I don't want any surprise charges.
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So, is the tethering free? It was so easy to activate and use, but I don't want any surprise charges.
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Depends entirely on your carrier.
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sweet
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drewmaloy said:
I'm coming from the hd7 also. And I find the size of the radar and its screen to be to annoying. Font size is an issue for me as well. The plus? WiFi tethering.
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and the camera. The camera is orders of magnitude better than the HD7's.
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and that screen was tiny haha. here is what everyone is saying.
"The HTC Titan is quite large thanks to its 4.7-inch display. We were slightly disappointed to find that the resolution for this LCD is standard WVGA–480 x 800 pixels. This means the dots per inch (dpi) specification will be quite low, and users may be able to make out individual pixels in some situations, which can be unpleasant when reading text. However, it should make viewing videos a joy, especially when sharing the screen with friends."
I would love to check out the phone myself. but dont have $600 to put into one lol.
even if you can see things fine.. why would they put qHD on the sensation and then 720p display on the rezound, etc. but not the titan when it has a even BIGGER screen? that just confuses me xD maybe it has something to do with WP7.
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Every negative comment I have heard about the Titan's screen is from people who don't actually own it or have used it and are just speculating. I'll search for more reviews (since I plan to buy the Titan Friday) and see if I can find anything else out.
here are my first impressions of this nice device (in german)
But I've got a question by the way? Is it normal that the alphabetical jumplist in apps menu is missing?
No. That should be there...odd.
According to :
http://www.reddit.com/r/wp7/comments/l9cet/quick_question_about_icon_in_app_jump_list/
You get the letters in the app list when you have more than 45 applications.