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So I was wondering, if you took a 3D pic with the EVO 3D, and set that pic as your background, will it still be in 3D? I know they said the Sense won't be in 3D so does that mean the phones background pic won't be either,just gallery pics? I've tries searching for an answer but haven't found one, maybe someone here knows a little more??
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From what I've read it should display 3D in portrait. So, I would think they'd be smart enough to put this feature in, but if they don't, some super smattering dev will.
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If the phone can display 3D in portrait mode (which would be a feat, considering what I've read about how parallax barrier works), you still have the issue of capturing a portrait 3D image. Look at how the lenses are positioned on the back of the phone. They are designed to capture the same perspective of the scene as each of your eyes does. If the phones is in portrait orientation, the captured image would be equivalent to what you see with your head tilted 90 degrees. I don't think that would have the desired effect.
So you'd probably have to capture the image in landscape to get the proper 3D effect, and then either crop it or stretch it across multiple home screens rather than rotate it for portrait viewing. But then there's the issue of the effective resolution of 3D content, which based on my research would be half the horizontal resolution (every other horizontal pixel is seen by each eye). The UI elements would need to be rendered at 270x960, with every horizontal pixel replicated for each eye. That may not be very noticeable for true 3D or dynamic content, but I'm betting static content will definitely look less clear or sharp.
Yes, I've thought a lot about this.
kzibart said:
If the phone can display 3D in portrait mode (which would be a feat, considering what I've read about how parallax barrier works), you still have the issue of capturing a portrait 3D image. Look at how the lenses are positioned on the back of the phone. They are designed to capture the same perspective of the scene as each of your eyes does. If the phones is in portrait orientation, the captured image would be equivalent to what you see with your head tilted 90 degrees. I don't think that would have the desired effect.
So you'd probably have to capture the image in landscape to get the proper 3D effect, and then either crop it or stretch it across multiple home screens rather than rotate it for portrait viewing. But then there's the issue of the effective resolution of 3D content, which based on my research would be half the horizontal resolution (every other horizontal pixel is seen by each eye). The UI elements would need to be rendered at 270x960, with every horizontal pixel replicated for each eye. That may not be very noticeable for true 3D or dynamic content, but I'm betting static content will definitely look less clear or sharp.
Yes, I've thought a lot about this.
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Wallpapers aren't portrait. They are more landscape
Now will it work, I have no idea. I'm still betting the screen only does 3D in landscape. Hopefully we'll get a good surprise!
phoenx06 said:
Wallpapers aren't portrait. They are more landscape
Now will it work, I have no idea. I'm still betting the screen only does 3D in landscape. Hopefully we'll get a good surprise!
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yes, wallpaper are landscape but is portrait for home. Unless you use home in landscape mode.
My guess is that 3d pics will be saved with a different file extension that will not be available to be used as a wallpaper. No proof, just a hunch.
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My guess is that 3d pics will be saved with a different file extension that will not be available to be used as a wallpaper. No proof, just a hunch.
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like in a 3D mkv video, left and right images are different files, i think 3D images will can be saved in a two different JPEG, and a live wallpaper will can join Left and Right images to make a 3D effect.
What would you like to see/think would be cool/only possible with the Evo 3D?
1. Dual focus images: Not sure how well this would work or how well the effect would even be perceived, but independently focus each camera when taking a 2D image (obviously requires someone to figure out how to use both cameras in 2D mode). Possibly result in a easy Tilt Shift photo.
2. 10mp image: Doubt this one is even possible really, but stitching an image from each camera together.
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What would you like to see/think would be cool/only possible with the Evo 3D?
1. Dual focus images: Not sure how well this would work or how well the effect would even be perceived, but independently focus each camera when taking a 2D image (obviously requires someone to figure out how to use both cameras in 2D mode). Possibly result in a easy Tilt Shift photo.
2. 10mp image: Doubt this one is even possible really, but stitching an image from each camera together.
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#2 won't work.
5mp+5mp doesn't = 10mp
10mp would be like taking the first 5mp shot and attaching the 2nd 5mp shot by a corner to one of the corners of the first shot.
_________
111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
_________|__________
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |_________|
Assuming the boxes with the 1's in them are 5mp each, a 10mp box would be made by making lines enclosing the 2 other boxes - where the X's are.
With the 2x5mp cameras, you'd only have 1/2 the data necessary to create a 10mp picture.
Technical talk aside...
I think it would be cool to invert the 3-d...
To take a picture of someone's head and "pop it inside out" so that their nose was the furthest point AWAY from you, rather than the closest.
I don't know if this would be as simple as swapping the two images or not - so the right displays on the left and the left displays on the right.
Nothing like playing with someone's mind by inverting the way they think the world is and showing it to them =D
Kalah, 5mp+5mp does indeed equal 10mp. Your way of thinking is a little skewed though. The pictures would come up essentially the same way the 3d pictures will be displayed on the phone normally (ignore the - signs, they are just for formatting since the site will delete extra spaces):
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111+222222=121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
The picture doesn't show a larger area, just a higher pixel density. The problem is this will only work for distant photos as they are taken from just slightly different angles.
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Kalah, 5mp+5mp does indeed equal 10mp. Your way of thinking is a little skewed though. The pictures would come up essentially the same way the 3d pictures will be displayed on the phone normally (ignore the - signs, they are just for formatting since the site will delete extra spaces):
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111+222222=121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
The picture doesn't show a larger area, just a higher pixel density. The problem is this will only work for distant photos as they are taken from just slightly different angles.
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Alright... Kindof.
You can get 10mp across, but your vertical resolution wouldn't increase. You'd get some really wide pictures.
To double the size of a photo, you have to quadruple the pixels... Not double them.
I'd love to see some great high quality 3D Augmented Reality apps that incorporate 3D. I'm sure there would be good money interactive 3D AR. I know it's cheesy and all, but those little pet games are very popular (personally not a fan). One thing that I would find absolutely fantastic is an app that allows you to draw or create cool 3D shapes in AR. When you close out of the app, all your drawings save and when you open it again you can continue creating awesome stuff and building an alternate digital reality splattered with your creativity. And it would be vital to add in a feature so you can add friends so you can share your world with them.
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What would you like to see/think would be cool/only possible with the Evo 3D?
1. Dual focus images: Not sure how well this would work or how well the effect would even be perceived, but independently focus each camera when taking a 2D image (obviously requires someone to figure out how to use both cameras in 2D mode). Possibly result in a easy Tilt Shift photo.
2. 10mp image: Doubt this one is even possible really, but stitching an image from each camera together.
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1) both images are offset as they are taken from different points, wouldn't work
2) again, different angles of the same image, wouldn't work
Kalash said:
Technical talk aside...
I think it would be cool to invert the 3-d...
To take a picture of someone's head and "pop it inside out" so that their nose was the furthest point AWAY from you, rather than the closest.
I don't know if this would be as simple as swapping the two images or not - so the right displays on the left and the left displays on the right.
Nothing like playing with someone's mind by inverting the way they think the world is and showing it to them =D
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turn the phone upside down
or, open the mpo file in something like "stereophoto maker" (freeware), press "x" (swaps images round) and save the new mpo file back to the phone. (am sure there will be an app to do this eventually)
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I'd love to see some great high quality 3D Augmented Reality apps that incorporate 3D.
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Wikitude 3D world browser already announced for Optimus 3D a month or 2 ago http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/wik...-first-3d-augmented-reality-browser-50003709/
Should be easy enough to do for Evo 3D
Kalash said:
#2 won't work.
5mp+5mp doesn't = 10mp
10mp would be like taking the first 5mp shot and attaching the 2nd 5mp shot by a corner to one of the corners of the first shot.
_________
111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
_________|__________
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |_________|
Assuming the boxes with the 1's in them are 5mp each, a 10mp box would be made by making lines enclosing the 2 other boxes - where the X's are.
With the 2x5mp cameras, you'd only have 1/2 the data necessary to create a 10mp picture.
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Seriously if people were this helpful and informative on xda it will have more members than facebook.
You sir, will have your thanks button clicked
Kalash said:
Alright... Kindof.
You can get 10mp across, but your vertical resolution wouldn't increase. You'd get some really wide pictures.
To double the size of a photo, you have to quadruple the pixels... Not double them.
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Again, you don't really understand what "megapixels" means. It is already width x height in the picture. Example: 1000 px x 1000 px = 1,000,000 px or 1MP
If you double one dimension, you double the MP of a photo. I didn't say you made it "twice as big." Yes, I agree that when people say twice as big they usually mean twice the height and twice the width, which is really 4x as big.
on to a different camera idea i just thought about.....
you know when you try to take a picture inside of a moving subject and it always blurs due to lights and ****. wonder if you could make an app that fires the cameras a split second from each other and you can choose one of the better pics
Kalash said:
Alright... Kindof.
You can get 10mp across, but your vertical resolution wouldn't increase. You'd get some really wide pictures.
To double the size of a photo, you have to quadruple the pixels... Not double them.
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You could also do something like this (ignore "-" sign):
11111 - 22222 - 1*1*1*1*1*
11111 - 22222 - *2*2*2*2*2
11111 + 22222 = 1*1*1*1*1* -where each "*" is a virtual pixel value, which is
11111 - 22222 - *2*2*2*2*2 -approximated by taking some sort of average
11111 - 22222 - 1*1*1*1*1* -between the neighboring (left right bottom)
---------------- *2*2*2*2*2 -top) actual pixel values.
---------------- 1*1*1*1*1*
---------------- *2*2*2*2*2
---------------- 1*1*1*1*1*
---------------- *2*2*2*2*2
simplest approximation would be * = (right + left +top + bottom)/4.
Using two camera for 2d shoot can have only benefit in focus and sharpness, because 80% of picture is same on bouth cameras
The 3D is nice and all, but the dual camera seems like it ought to have real potential:
1) HDR (High Dynamic Range) photos
2) Accurate? distance measuring
3) 3D model generation
4) Facial security for lock screen - 3D based, so can't be faked with a photo
5) "Corrected" 2D photos - use the differences between dual photos to filter out artifacts? Better low light photos / night vision?
6) Action shooting (alternate cameras for faster snap shotting?)
7) "Hand" lock screen? (take a 3D photo of your hand, to unlock your phone?)
Just throwing stuff out there I haven't a clue on how to actually create any of those, or even if they're possible.
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on to a different camera idea i just thought about.....
you know when you try to take a picture inside of a moving subject and it always blurs due to lights and ****. wonder if you could make an app that fires the cameras a split second from each other and you can choose one of the better pics
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Try fast burst camera from the market. Doesn't use both camera's but takes pictures quite fast.
New idea?
i thought creating 3D icons... and use the 3D cam. to create a wallpaper of the image the camera see in 3D in combination i think that looks cool.
http://www.iphonedownloadblog.com/2...-to-use-your-camera-as-your-iphone-wallpaper/ example
I would like to have some image effects on the 3D pictures... kinda like HDR and Vintage or Black and white 3D pics.
3D Video Chat!
We already have 3D video recording so something like live video chat does not seem like too much of a leap. Most video chat programs don't support the front camera of the Evo4g let alone the Evo3D. Having a program that specifically targets the Evo3D for 3D video chat would be an amazing feature to compliment this awesome phone.
Cheers!
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We already have 3D video recording so something like live video chat does not seem like too much of a leap. Most video chat programs don't support the front camera of the Evo4g let alone the Evo3D. Having a program that specifically targets the Evo3D for 3D video chat would be an amazing feature to compliment this awesome phone.
Cheers!
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What video chat apps don't support the 3D's front camera? Yahoo, Tango, Fring, Skype, and Qik all do, that only leaves Oovoo. Plus the front camera won't do 3D, it wouldn't be video chat, you could stream live in 3D though.
Find the difference between two 3D pictures
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3d drawing/spin art.
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I just had a few questions about my new Evo 3D... I've been looking on the forum. but haven't found anything... So I thought I'd Ask..
Isn't Sense 3.0 supposed to support landscape mode on the UI? (is there an option to enable this? - 2.1, I think Supported this on my OG E4G.
Is the 3D camera/video supposed to constantly auto focus over and over? i can see maybe it needs to due to the 2 cameras. but it kinda gets annoying, when trying to take a pic.. haha.
Why does the 3D only work in Landscape mode? .. like if I take a pic in 3D, it will only take the pic if I have the phone tilted to landscape. which is crazy to me. Many shots look better from the portrait angle. which is refuses to take pictures that way. my thinking is. if its 3D. wouldn't the orientation not matter? and worse case scenario if it did. so I have a pic that you view sideways. But i'd still have my better angle picture, right?
Other than those issues, I've loved the phone. the 3D is better then I thought it'd be. a lil weird/different to get used to. I love the speed, it restored my texts from my previous phone, and deleting threads took seconds, not hours. that was really nice.
I believe that the screen has to be looked at horizontally because of the 3d technology the screen uses? Kind of like certain types of polarized 3d glasses. The 3d effect isn't the same when you look at the screen when it is vertical.
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Isn't Sense 3.0 supposed to support landscape mode on the UI? (is there an option to enable this? - 2.1, I think Supported this on my OG E4G.
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Settings--> Display--> Auto-rotate screen
DevXen said:
Why does the 3D only work in Landscape mode? .. like if I take a pic in 3D, it will only take the pic if I have the phone tilted to landscape. which is crazy to me. Many shots look better from the portrait angle. which is refuses to take pictures that way. my thinking is. if its 3D. wouldn't the orientation not matter? and worse case scenario if it did. so I have a pic that you view sideways. But i'd still have my better angle picture, right?
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I'm only 99% sure of this one. I believe the 3D only works in landscape mode because the the cameras need to be in a horizontal fashion to take a 3D picture. The camera's have to be side by side instead of top and bottom.
I suppose if you took the picture in portrait, then were able to turn your phone horizontally without rotating the screen that you'd be able to view a portrait 3D picture, but then your picture would be sideways.
Whatever the case, the cameras need to be side by side. That is the nature of stereoscopic images. Ever seen a Magic Eye picture? Imagine trying to see the hidden image in portrait. Not possible.
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Other than those issues, I've loved the phone. the 3D is better then I thought it'd be. a lil weird/different to get used to. I love the speed, it restored my texts from my previous phone, and deleting threads took seconds, not hours. that was really nice.
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I do like the 3D, but I really only like it when watching movies in 3D (i.e. Green Hornet) and when watching certain YouTube 3D videos. The videos made with higher end 3D camera equipment look really cool. The ones shot from Evo 3D don't look as good to me.
look at the layout of the lenses. If you tilt it on it's side it would be like tilting your head to the side. not to mention the 3D is more a fun gimmick than a primary use feature.
the only way they could take a 3D portrait picture would be if the lenses rotated to keep them horizontal.
the UI does not rotate does not do landscape, the one you were using was a port of either the desire z or shift that allows it due to the hardware keyboard.
i am sure it will be one of the first ports once we get root.
thank you for the replies guys.. i knew it'd be a good idea to ask here..
I did have another question.. I want to put thousands of pictures on my evo. (friends, pets, guitars, live concert pics, funny pics, illusions, etc) .. years ago, when I had my Palm Centro. I found, I was able to compress the images. and keep fairly good quality for that screen.. i was able to drop 2meg pics down to like 37k in filesize .. i was able to fit a couple thousand pictures on the sd card there, and it was somethinge like 300 megs.. it was nice.. i tried to copy those to my Ipod classic. and i guess the Ipod, did'nt like that.. as it re-created the pics bigger. but i can only assume to better fit that screen. so I was bummed out..
anyhow.. I would like to put many pics on my Evo 3D like that, but cut size. though keep relatively decent quality. if i open it on my evo, i'd like it to be full screen and clear... but compressed down from the 900k-2megs that the camera, or even the Evo 4G did..
Does anyone have any recommendations on either what resolution/quality to convert the pics too? / a program to do it? / advice?
I found a tutorial on converting video to work best on the evo. and it says: Set the EVO 3D Width and Height (the EVO 3D supports a maximum of 960 x 540 pixels) .. so that makes sense for video.. but not for pictures.. - but it was this tutorial that got me thinking.. (i also tried last year to find info on optimal pic size for the Evo 4G, and could'nt find anything and gave up looking)
... Dev
DevXen said:
thank you for the replies guys.. i knew it'd be a good idea to ask here..
I did have another question.. I want to put thousands of pictures on my evo. (friends, pets, guitars, live concert pics, funny pics, illusions, etc) .. years ago, when I had my Palm Centro. I found, I was able to compress the images. and keep fairly good quality for that screen.. i was able to drop 2meg pics down to like 37k in filesize .. i was able to fit a couple thousand pictures on the sd card there, and it was somethinge like 300 megs.. it was nice.. i tried to copy those to my Ipod classic. and i guess the Ipod, did'nt like that.. as it re-created the pics bigger. but i can only assume to better fit that screen. so I was bummed out..
anyhow.. I would like to put many pics on my Evo 3D like that, but cut size. though keep relatively decent quality. if i open it on my evo, i'd like it to be full screen and clear... but compressed down from the 900k-2megs that the camera, or even the Evo 4G did..
Does anyone have any recommendations on either what resolution/quality to convert the pics too? / a program to do it? / advice?
I found a tutorial on converting video to work best on the evo. and it says: Set the EVO 3D Width and Height (the EVO 3D supports a maximum of 960 x 540 pixels) .. so that makes sense for video.. but not for pictures.. - but it was this tutorial that got me thinking.. (i also tried last year to find info on optimal pic size for the Evo 4G, and could'nt find anything and gave up looking)
... Dev
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Ok, for the photo compression question (if you still have it) I can point you in the right direction, but don't exactly have a solid solution for you. I use Photoshop and that has a feature to compress images. If you have that, great. But it's not worth getting just to compress photos. But the tool is "optimize for web." This strips the photo of all extra bits that won't be necessary. You'd want to be close to that 960x540 resolution too. Maybe try searching for photo optimizing software, possibly something geared to preparing photos for a website. If you find something and it asks how heavily to compress a jpeg on a number scale, usually 8 is a good starting point.
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Ok, for the photo compression question (if you still have it) I can point you in the right direction, but don't exactly have a solid solution for you. I use Photoshop and that has a feature to compress images. If you have that, great. But it's not worth getting just to compress photos. But the tool is "optimize for web." This strips the photo of all extra bits that won't be necessary. You'd want to be close to that 960x540 resolution too. Maybe try searching for photo optimizing software, possibly something geared to preparing photos for a website. If you find something and it asks how heavily to compress a jpeg on a number scale, usually 8 is a good starting point.
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Cool man thanks for the advice.. i'll look into it.
DevXen said:
thank you for the replies guys.. i knew it'd be a good idea to ask here..
I did have another question.. I want to put thousands of pictures on my evo. (friends, pets, guitars, live concert pics, funny pics, illusions, etc) .. years ago, when I had my Palm Centro. I found, I was able to compress the images. and keep fairly good quality for that screen.. i was able to drop 2meg pics down to like 37k in filesize .. i was able to fit a couple thousand pictures on the sd card there, and it was somethinge like 300 megs.. it was nice.. i tried to copy those to my Ipod classic. and i guess the Ipod, did'nt like that.. as it re-created the pics bigger. but i can only assume to better fit that screen. so I was bummed out..
anyhow.. I would like to put many pics on my Evo 3D like that, but cut size. though keep relatively decent quality. if i open it on my evo, i'd like it to be full screen and clear... but compressed down from the 900k-2megs that the camera, or even the Evo 4G did..
Does anyone have any recommendations on either what resolution/quality to convert the pics too? / a program to do it? / advice?
I found a tutorial on converting video to work best on the evo. and it says: Set the EVO 3D Width and Height (the EVO 3D supports a maximum of 960 x 540 pixels) .. so that makes sense for video.. but not for pictures.. - but it was this tutorial that got me thinking.. (i also tried last year to find info on optimal pic size for the Evo 4G, and could'nt find anything and gave up looking)
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If I were you, I'd invest in a 32 GB SD card if you want optimal quality photos. As you probably already know, the more you compress a photo's file size, the more the quality of the picture degrades, especially with the JPEG file format. The JPEG file format, which is used on all the cameras I've played with so far, can compress an image down to a really low file size, but at the same time the picture quality degrades. The JPEG format also suffers from generation loss, meaning every time you decode and encode an image into the JPEG format, you lose quality. Personally, I prefer the PNG format over other formats since it uses lossless compression, but I don't think the EVO 3D's camera has an option to save in that format. The downside of the PNG format is that the file sizes are still larger than the JPEG format, but it's significantly smaller than the RAW format.
But then again, you're using a phone camera. If you were using a professional or high end amateur camera, I'm pretty sure things would be different. Basically what I want you to take from this is to try to avoid compressing/decompressing JPEG images often. It degrades the picture quality. I only wish the EVO 3D could save images in PNG format since it uses lossless compression.
3D Photo convert to 2D Nicer than originally taken with 2D.
I have read few articles about this but couldn't believe.
I think this (myth) can be tested easily.
Just make your phone stand securely in place.
Place a detail thing infront of the camera.
Take both 3D and 2D photo, convert 3D photo to 2D
and compare it to originally 2D photo.
Aside from the image size (we all know that converted 2D is reduce).
Which photo is nicer in terms of color production, focus, details,
as viewed from the phone itself.
Hope someone can tried out, and test.
I have found that in low light situations, my pictures turn out better if I take them in 3D and convert them to 2D.
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2 questions kind of related.
Is there a way to convert 3D to 2D pics on the pc rather than 3VO so we don't reduce size as much?
Also, how about 3D to 2D video conversion? I would hate to take a vid and not show others who don't have 3D displays.
The depth in 3d is better on the LG optimis 3d. is the a way to change the evo 3d depth to there's or to a different setting
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Please for all of us. Just go get the LG.
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liljacques said:
The depth in 3d is better on the LG optimis 3d. is the a way to change the evo 3d depth to there's or to a different setting
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The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
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The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
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Everything he said. Also, with some 3d software, you can adjust the depth of field.
ian928 said:
The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
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Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
borgqueenx said:
Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
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Yes, the depth will be the same if you watch the same files on any of these devices. The screen can't change the media, only the media itself can change.
Do some reattach on how 3d stuff works and you will see what I mean.
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borgqueenx said:
Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
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Yes absolutely the evo 3d, optimus 3d, and the 3ds will have the exact same 3d effect when viewing the same source file, such as avatar 3d or any other prerecorded media.
What people are referring to when they say the optimus has more depth or the evo has more popout is the pictures and video created by the phone. Since the evo's cameras are father apart the two phones will create a different 3d effect even when taking a picture in the exact same location with both phones. This difference is due to the 3d cameras and has absolutely nothing to do with the screen.
The 3d effect simply cannot have any difference in depth when viewing the same prerecorded media. Do a little more research into how 3d works and you will understand this better.
people. i just asked desame at the optimus 3d section and this is what ive got:
You are referring to the differences in the cameras, not the screens. Optimus photos viewed on the evo will have the same depth as when they are viewed on the optimus. All these phones are doing is showing two 2d pictures on the same screen at the same time while blocking the opposite eye from seeing the other pic. The same 3d source will have the same 3d effect on both phones. The same source has the same two pics when viewed on either screen and therefore cannot have a different 3d effect.
Now if we are talking about different sources then of course the 3d effect can be different.
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Only true if one assumes that both handsets are using a parallax barrier of the same quality which works equally effective. This doesn't seem to be the case. (3d images on the O3D are supposed to be more crisp and the viewing angle is supposed to be wider as well)
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seems the optimus 3d uses another parallax barrier, so it makes the screen much better in handling 3d.
The viewing angles may well be better on the optimus but when you're in the sweet spot on the evo there is absolutely no bleed over from the other image. This can be seen be winking each eye independently. Therefore the parallax barrier isn't effecting the amount of depth in the 3d when viewed properly.
The amount of depth is determined by the source not the screen. I suspect when people say the optimus has better 3d they're either not viewing the same source on both or they're referring to viewing angles which has nothing to do with the amount of depth in the 3d effect.
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people. i just asked desame at the optimus 3d section and this is what ive got:
seems the optimus 3d uses another parallax barrier, so it makes the screen much better in handling 3d.
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How can a less crisp screen be more crisp? Hhmm
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Well thanks guys but at least with the 3ds it is possible to set the depth/power of the 3d effect. Maybe the optimus is set higher then the evo3d?
And will there be a fix so the evo3d takes better 3d photos?
It seems everyone agrees the optimus3d is better in that...
Most 3d games you can adjust it. When viewing a picture tap the picture select effects and adjust the 3d alignment to your hearts content. Make it appear far away or make it popout.
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3d games are very different than pictures and video. They are computer generated and therefore the 3d effect can be easily adjusted on the fly. I have two 3d games on my evo and both can be adjusted over quite a large range from off to a lot of depth.
Pictures and video are a different animal. On the evo you can adjust the overlay of the pictures, which is just sliding one pic to the left and the other to the right. Now this does change the amount of depth but on most pictures there is only one point where the image looks correct without the other image bleeding over. This feature is there to compensate for the evo's, cameras being unable to swivel like your eyes. The cameras can't go crosseyed like your eyes can when viewing something close to your face. Some images will get the other image bleeding over and this feature allows you to compensate til there is none.
The problem is everyone here seems to think some super quality screen on one beats the other. Lol.
Ignorant.
People don't even see 3d the same. Certain types of 3d may effect someone more or less than another.
The LG simply assist with focussing on the 3d content.
Thus the content appears smoother more in depth. When really as you adjust. The LG cleary does too.
That would help eliminate the card board effect somewhat.
I'm not a doctor. Technologist is more fitting.
Sometimes an analytical view can assist in providing a better understanding of a competitors technical advantage.
This technology will be used by all manufacturers soon.
Then Apple will pull a patent out their ass or some bull**** rebrand it and call it the new hotness your grandma wish she lived long enough to have.
Apple will get its way and we will all get the iPhone.
Of course by 5 years time Apple would of purchased Android.
Rebranded it.
Send it out in pieces.
Call it the new hotness you wish you would of lived long enough to have.
Sorry some dork shiet. But you get it. I think.
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