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Hi Guys,
just got my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (PT7500 / 16GB / 3G) yesterday.
Great Tab so far!
But still i recognize one downturn:
When compared to an iPad2, the screen response in drawing/sketching apps is less then satisfactory. I'd even go so far to deem this unusuable - no matter whether is use a capacitive stylus or my finger.
The touchscreen simply lags about 5mm / 1 sec. in response time.
Anyone else experienced this?
Is this by design? HW fault? SW fault?
Basically, the 10.1 is by this nearly unusuable as sketchpad - which is one of my major use cases here.
Maybe someone has experienced something similar?
Thanks very much for any response on this!
Best regards,
Klaas.
Hi Guys,
just to add to this:
I have made some comparisons again on this issue and found that the Galaxy Tab Touchscreen is seriously "lagging behind" when drawing on it.
When using an iPad drawing App (Sketchpad), the response to the touch is instantenous, on the Galaxy Tab the lines drag behind the finger.
Please see attached two comparison drawings:
The Sketch Pad Document is from an iPad 2
The 1.jpg is done with Big Fat Canvas on the Galaxy Tab 10.1
Both are made with the same capacitive pencil and written in the same speed.
Interestingly enough: When i draw VERY slowly, the result on the Galaxy Tab is as good as on the iPad.
So it seems to be a software problem of the Samsung Touchscreen driver being not very well written. Anyone can confirm that?
Furthermore, i did some more quick comparisons of Android tablets in our local electronics store and found that they're all very different:
- ASUS Transformer comes most closely to iPad
- Motorola XOOM behind
- ACER Iconia very sluggish
The Samsung ties in somewhere in the middle.
Interestingly enough i haven't found any discussion in the web on this topic...
Looking forward to any feedback anyone might be able to give on that!
Best regards,
Klaas.
well, i can just say that dragging items on the home screen is ridiculously slow... This isnt a smooth operation at all!
I am absolutely with you!!! Maybe everyone can program a new driver, but i think it have to do with the energy settings:-(
BTW: I reported this to Samsung Support and their answer was (what else?)
"Factory Reset, if no use, please send in for repair"
Also, Adobe Sketchbook brought the same result.
It seems that the Android multitasking gets in the way of a decent polling interval of the touchscreen - or so it seems. When more apps are running in background, the touchscreen gets more laggy...
I'm interested to see whether this improves in newer Android versions - as it's currently an Android Tab is not really usefull as sketchpad...
Best regards,
Klaas.
Use sgs touchscreen booster! In will help a little bit
I also have the same issue. Using Sketchbook Pro, and even the included memo app, is completely unusable. Tried sga touchscreen booster as well and it made a little difference, but not enough to make me able to draw or write anything. The Asus Transformer is much better as a sketching thingy.
Has there been any development on this?
Is with stock Honeycomb 3.1 or Touchwiz? I noticed after "upgrading" to touchwiz that the touchscreen responsiveness got much worse. i ended up going back to regular Honeycomb 3.1.
Mine's with touchwiz out of the box (the 3g version). I figured that touchwiz might be the problem. What is the best rom out there?
Hi guys, I'm the developer of a stylus-writing app (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad) and after getting a lot of complaints from Galaxy tab users, decided to buy one and test it against my Asus Transformer. Here are some results. My stylus is the AYL: http://www.amazon.com/Newest-Genera...rranty/dp/B004HO86P6/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Side by side, with the Samsung on the left and Asus on the right. Using the free app Maple Paint.
You can see from the W's that there are way fewer touch events from the Samsung touch screen. THat's why the corners are rounded. I had to confirm, so I did a similar test on my own app. The Asus registered 1076 touch events, while the Samsung registered around 600.
When I look at the actual MotionEvents, some differences: Pressure from Asus is around 0.8, and 0.13 on the Samsung. "Size" and "tool" are 0 on the Asus, and non-zero on Samsung.
Also, when you rest your palm on the screen, Samsung's touchscreen becomes unresponsive (even more so). The Asus has no such problem.
Is this a hardware or firmware issue? Will 3.2 update help?
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Hi guys, I'm the developer of a stylus-writing app (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad) and after getting a lot of complaints from Galaxy tab users, decided to buy one and test it against my Asus Transformer. Here are some results. My stylus is the AYL: http://www.amazon.com/Newest-Genera...rranty/dp/B004HO86P6/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Is this a hardware or firmware issue? Will 3.2 update help?
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I will try different software/firmware versions "side-by-side" when I get home to see if there's any improvement with the newer updates.
Is the Asus you tested with running Honeycomb 3.2 ?
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Have you taken your app "writepad stylus" off the market?
I paid for it (some weeks ago) and can't find it any more on the market.
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I will try different software/firmware versions "side-by-side" when I get home to see if there's any improvement with the newer updates.
Is the Asus you tested with running Honeycomb 3.2 ?
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Have you taken your app "writepad stylus" off the market?
I paid for it (some weeks ago) and can't find it any more on the market.
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Yeah Asus on 3.2, Samsung on 3.1 (though that's probably not the issue). I just ran Software update on samsung and it's on the latest firmware.
Writepad Stylus is here: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad
version 2 is out
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Yeah Asus on 3.2, Samsung on 3.1 (though that's probably not the issue). I just ran Software update on samsung and it's on the latest firmware.
Writepad Stylus is here: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad
version 2 is out
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I get "the requested item could not be found" when I click on the install button.
Thanks to transceiver for that nice comparison and testing of the handwriting app. I bought the new Samsung 10.1 tab with one of the primary intentions to use it to take handwritten notes during meetings and work sessions.
The Samsung's screen responsiveness is a great dissapointment and propably the worse I have seen of the current top "name brand" tablets. It is extremely sluggish in comparison to the rest and handwriting on it is almost impossible unless you write very slowly. Very frustrating indeed.
Let's hope they take note of this issue and can fix it with a firmware upgrade.
Returned Tab
I had the same problem. I actually returned my galaxy tab just because of this. I loved it but the iPad2 was far more responsive with handwriting. I use my tablet to jot ideas down and annotate very often. The slow Samsung tab was not adequate.
Yeah guys. Unfortunately it seems like both graphic driver and touchscreen sampling rate is crap. Made
Some small video and sent it to Samsung. They just did not care. Video is here:
http://youtu.be/0YAwpEK1Urc
I hope that soon the ics sources are released and we can replace the Samsung crap by something useable as CM8
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wavy lines
just attached an image to show u guys what happens with a capacitive stylus
Absolute garbage if any one wants to do a simple sketch
Drawing diagonals produces wavy un even lines when drawn slowly with a capacitive stylus, hence any curve or circle comes out uneven
Can any of you post what happens when u draw a circle slowly or draw diagonals slowly using ur capacitive stylus
Want to know if its just my tablets problem
+ 1 It is totally unusable for anything then 5 year old finger painting.
Any devs looking at a possible fix?
Go to 10.1 Dev section .... check out the thread solving touchscreen sensitivity! Works like a charm .. handwriting works like how I like it now! Must get it!
Hello,
It was hard to find the appropriate section for this question.
I will NOT ask here any comparison of the specs or other benchmark. I also hope this will not degenerate as a trolled topic.
I consider buying one of the mentioned tablets. I think both are good and if course I read a lot about both. Everyday my heart lean toward one or the other.
Posting in the Galaxy Tab forum is probably good actually.
Let's make it short: I generally like Samsung. I actually own a Galaxy S2 and I would not exchange for anything else.
Those topics often end up as competition when users try to comfort their own choice. I hope this won't be the case.
So back to the topic. Being a Samsung guy
I naturally preferred the tab despite a slightly higher price...until I tried a xoom (not the
Xoom 2).
I actually was surprised and disappointed by the Tab (7501).
I found it laggy.
I went back and forth between the 7501 and the mz601 and I found the xoom nicer to the eye. This may not have anything to do with the pure processing. The tab may be overall faster (no idea) but I could for example see an obvious difference when I opened the browser.
I did the test in a store, with the devices side by side. You know how it is in stores...you never know what has been done before do I rebooted both tablet.
I had in mind a video from YouTube showing the xoom booting in about twice the time of the tab. This is definitely not what happened. I will spare the milliseconds but the xoom was actually faster (maybe half a second....).
Now freshly booted, I compared again. Same result. Damn
I like the tab but again the xoom looks better.
I went home not knowing what to think....
Back to the store the day after thinking it may have been biased somehow.
I tested again with power plugged or not. No matter what, the xoom is faster.
I am witting this post hoping someone who tried both the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the xoom 2 could give some feedback.
At the moment, I am really tempted to go for a Xoom 2. The main killers of the xoom have been fixed (size and weight).
The 'best' tablet depends of course of the taste and the usage so let me summarize mine.
I play almost no game. Interest its mainly in browsing Web, watching photos/videos while keeping an Android device.
I have seen a few folks doing comparison of real use.I find that pretty cool. You start both tablet at the same time and run the same scenario such as opening the browser, going to the same url, then watching a video, etc...
I like those tests because in the end
I prefer a tablet that takes time to boot (I may reboot my phone twice a month...)and is more responsive later.
So can someone tell me why the tab is better?
Did I run into a defective model maybe?
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I didn't see the Xoom 2
but if it can help you :
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/05/motorola-xoom-2-review/
Question : why would you take a Xoom 2 if you can buy a Transformer Prime ?
The TF201 could be an answer indeed but considering the current problems, I don't feel like jumping in now.
Imo the prime its a great product with lacks in design. This will be fixed I am sure. I may wait until then.
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Hi all,
Was just wondering if it's worth me swapping my iPad 2 for the Galaxy Tab 10.1?
I've had a quick (really quick) play around on the 10.1, but the screen doesn't seem very responsive and smooth compared to the iPad 2.
I'm in no way at all an Apple fan boy, I much prefer Android as an operating system which is why I have an HTC Sensation, but I'm in 2 minds what to do.
Can the 10.1 be tweaked to actually respond to the stylus I use with my iPad 2?
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Yes, you should swap the iPad for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. I have been enjoying mine since I got and have had no issues it is really smooth, in fact it feel smoother than the iPad. It is a great devices and with android and not being locked up like iOS it makes it even better!
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Do you know which models are affected by the 'oil slick' problem?
From a truly non-biased point of view, I think the best answer is "it's up to you alone to decide".
What do you currently use your tablet for? What would you like to use it for in the future? Considering you're active here, I'm guessing there's a chance you'll want to root and ROM your Tab, are you waiting on the iPad2 jailbreak? Is that critical to you?
When I got my Tab I knew I was going to root and ROM from the start, I already had a jailbroken iPhone and wanted to see what all the fuss was about with Android. I consider myself a power user and I enjoyed exploring the nooks and crannies of the iPhone on my own, with my Tab most of it was documented somewhere.
I mainly use my Tab for reading techincal ebooks during my commute, and for reading my RSS and browsing when I'm too lazy to get out of bed. I didn't like the iPad's portrait interface which just looked like a blown up iPhone's. I was doing research on one at work and the more I used it, the more niggles I found I had with the way it treated me like a basic user. The fact I wasn't planning to game too much (if at all) was another reason I leaned towards my Tab.
As my sig shows, I liked Android so much I stuck around and got the GNex too.
P.S. My Tab has the oil slick problem. It's annoying to know my gear is technically faulty, but I can honestly not see the issue while the backlight is on.
The screen size really suited my and so did the weight for the tab 10.1
It really is up to you, but to be honest, you don't know the tab's full capabilities yet as it's not got an official ICS build yet!
i dont want to hijack this thread but i have a very small question so creating a new thread would be totally waste.
1)can any one tell me about availability of games on galaxy tab 10.1 compared to ipad2??
2) will Cm9 officially support Tab10.1??
3) can i play 720p mkv videos with softsubs without any problem?? My MKVs are generally H.264+AC3/AAC. I dont care if i have to buy a player to do it.
I am really confused between ipad2 and galaxy tab 10.1. HAve to buy any one of two.
el3ctrik said:
From a truly non-biased point of view, I think the best answer is "it's up to you alone to decide".
What do you currently use your tablet for? What would you like to use it for in the future? Considering you're active here, I'm guessing there's a chance you'll want to root and ROM your Tab, are you waiting on the iPad2 jailbreak? Is that critical to you?
When I got my Tab I knew I was going to root and ROM from the start, I already had a jailbroken iPhone and wanted to see what all the fuss was about with Android. I consider myself a power user and I enjoyed exploring the nooks and crannies of the iPhone on my own, with my Tab most of it was documented somewhere.
I mainly use my Tab for reading techincal ebooks during my commute, and for reading my RSS and browsing when I'm too lazy to get out of bed. I didn't like the iPad's portrait interface which just looked like a blown up iPhone's. I was doing research on one at work and the more I used it, the more niggles I found I had with the way it treated me like a basic user. The fact I wasn't planning to game too much (if at all) was another reason I leaned towards my Tab.
As my sig shows, I liked Android so much I stuck around and got the GNex too.
P.S. My Tab has the oil slick problem. It's annoying to know my gear is technically faulty, but I can honestly not see the issue while the backlight is on.
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Thanks for the informative reply.
Yes, indeed I was waiting for the iPad 2 jailbreak, but it looks like they've hit another hurdle,so I'm not holding my breath no more!
I do like the games on the iPad 2, some of them are fantastic, but Android seem to be lacking in the game department area.
They only have the following tablet apps listed on the android website:-
https://market.android.com/details?id=apps_tablet_featured&start=0&num=24
The camera on the iPad 2 is shocking, it's not even worth having one on there,not in low light conditions anyway.
Still in 2 minds what to do. I have android on my HTC Sensation, so do I need it on a tablet too.....
Arrrgggggghhhhhhhhh
kingkij said:
i dont want to hijack this thread but i have a very small question so creating a new thread would be totally waste.
1)can any one tell me about availability of games on galaxy tab 10.1 compared to ipad2??
2) will Cm9 officially support Tab10.1??
3) can i play 720p mkv videos with softsubs without any problem?? My MKVs are generally H.264+AC3/AAC. I dont care if i have to buy a player to do it.
I am really confused between ipad2 and galaxy tab 10.1. HAve to buy any one of two.
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1) Games exist and run on both devices, sometimes the same game is on both iOS and Android, sometimes they are device specific. Don't really know what you're asking?
2) Yes, and there's a preview version available on the Tab 10.1 Dev forum right now, I have it installed.
3) Yes, I think so. Although I'm not entirely certain as I don't watch videos too much on mine, unless they're Youtube embedded in a webpage/RSS. There's something for the GNex out now though, that I have a memory someone saying they were running it on their SGT10.1 too. And I'm not 100% sure about subs tbh.
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kurtish said:
Thanks for the informative reply.
Yes, indeed I was waiting for the iPad 2 jailbreak, but it looks like they've hit another hurdle,so I'm not holding my breath no more!
I do like the games on the iPad 2, some of them are fantastic, but Android seem to be lacking in the game department area.
They only have the following tablet apps listed on the android website:-
https://market.android.com/details?id=apps_tablet_featured&start=0&num=24
The camera on the iPad 2 is shocking, it's not even worth having one on there,not in low light conditions anyway.
Still in 2 minds what to do. I have android on my HTC Sensation, so do I need it on a tablet too.....
Arrrgggggghhhhhhhhh
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I used this list for a long time to find 10.1" HC-optimised apps: http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/motorola-xoom-apps/570-optimized-honeycomb-apps-list.html
(Note how I say optimised, not compatiable - if you're on Android 3.2 or later, there's a difference as they included a feature to expand phone apps to take up the whole screen).
The link you provided is the "Featured Tablet Apps" list, but I do feel there is less tablet-specific apps available for Android compared to iOS. However, the ones I need for my daily use exist, so that fact isn't such an issue to me. And it's hopefully only going to get better as devs move to the GNex and develop on a SDK that encourages phone and tablet interfaces to be designed and used in a single app download.
I don't use my camera on my Tab, so can't help you there...sorry.
Okay picked my tablet up two days.
1. Light bleeding in the right and lest lower corners (landscape mode)
2. Lag while scrolling in apps well choppynes. apps I know work fine they don't do it on my galaxy note 2 or my galaxy s2.
3. Extreme heat and frame rate drops during games.
Could the lag issue be the cause of my tablet being on 4.2 so they aren't tuned for it? Would you guys be willing to test out apps I'm having issues with? I am rooted and have twrp installed I purchased my tablet from Walmart not sure if that matters don't know if they use inferior parts. Now would I return it keep I mean I mister have the best and when my 3 year old phone runs better on alpha there is a problem. Are there roms to make it run better? I wish it ran better than it does i mean its such a beautiful tablet. what do you guys think? should i keep it or return it and pick up an asus tf700
It depends on the apps, I don't mind testing them.
Many/all of your questions have Been addressed, so I'd suggest browsing around for more information. But I feel like testing handwriting recognition so here we go.
It depends on the ROM you install and how much of a performance gain you expect to get. I only got my tablet back today, prior to sending it in I was running AKOP with kt's kernel and it ran great, but I wouldn't discount other ROMs I simply haven't installed them yet.
It's difficult to compare the tablet to phones because it's pushing so many damn pixels, so its harder on the internals to keep up with a much smaller device with way less pixels. That said, IMHO your expectations of the Nexus 10 are going to frustrate you beyond belief with the TF700. All the build quality issues were worse in my experience, and stock performance is alright until you open a Web browser or try to download something.
The tablet is the same no matter where you buy it, they're all made by Samsung.
Throw a ROM and kernel on it and see how you feel about it. I own a Note II and I've been very happy with the Nexus 10's performance running a display like what it's got sitting on the front.
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Biohazard0289 said:
It depends on the apps, I don't mind testing them.
Many/all of your questions have Been addressed, so I'd suggest browsing around for more information. But I feel like testing handwriting recognition so here we go.
It depends on the ROM you install and how much of a performance gain you expect to get. I only got my tablet back today, prior to sending it in I was running AKOP with kt's kernel and it ran great, but I wouldn't discount other ROMs I simply haven't installed them yet.
It's difficult to compare the tablet to phones because it's pushing so many damn pixels, so its harder on the internals to keep up with a much smaller device with way less pixels. That said, IMHO your expectations of the Nexus 10 are going to frustrate you beyond belief with the TF700. All the build quality issues were worse in my experience, and stock performance is alright until you open a Web browser or try to download something.
The tablet is the same no matter where you buy it, they're all made by Samsung.
Throw a ROM and kernel on it and see how you feel about it
Sent from my Galaxy Note II
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Thanks for your response i have done a little reading nothing on the laggy scrolling and for gaming its hit and miss ass is the light bleeding. So im trying to figure out if its worth keeping or just sending back, If you don't mind my asking why did you send yours in what was wrong with it? I am afraid to flash because if i don't like it then i can't return the tablet since the custom binary with have a counter. ugh. for the apps with choppy scrolling theres facebook and then residentevil.net mobile you have to search apps for it its in the play store then select dlc at the bottom. My phone scrolls just fine through that app but not the tablet with i don't know if its because my tablet is a newer version of android or what.
And your thing for the tf700 i wasn't understanding what you were saying, were you saying its worse than the nexus?
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Thanks for your response i have done a little reading nothing on the laggy scrolling and for gaming its hit and miss ass is the light bleeding. So im trying to figure out if its worth keeping or just sending back, If you don't mind my asking why did you send yours in what was wrong with it? I am afraid to flash because if i don't like it then i can't return the tablet since the custom binary with have a counter. ugh. for the apps with choppy scrolling theres facebook and then residentevil.net mobile you have to search apps for it its in the play store then select dlc at the bottom. My phone scrolls just fine through that app but not the tablet with i don't know if its because my tablet is a newer version of android or what.
And your thing for the tf700 i wasn't understanding what you were saying, were you saying its worse than the nexus?
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I sent mine back for Backlight bleed and Multi-Touch issues. More detailed information on that here.
I personally don't really use either of those apps, but i'll give it a whirl. The residentevil app could be a variety of issues, app related. Facebook on the other hand hasn't had a real great track record of making the fastest app, so it might be working well on your phone because it's just pushing it though. However thats all speculation, and not really a valid "answer". I'll be happy to test them out though.
The TF700 is something I could rant about for a long time, but basically it's slow when web browsing and downloading large files because of the internal memory ASUS decided to throw at it (for whatever reason) is slow and basically causes the tablet stop for short periods (a second or less, but annoying because they are so frequent). The 7 I went though also had light bleed worse than the N10 before I sent it back, screen lifting, and in one the power button just disappeared. Thanks to the Infinity, I still can't do returns at Best Buy for about another month.
So your no longer on a nexus 10? Also the xda premium
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No I've still got it, just received it back from Samsung's repair center.
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Just in general my tablet is running slowly and sluggish in apps. It runs just fine in the settings menu and while scrolling through my app drawer
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I have been looking for a tablet for myself. Mostly, for note/lectures taking and reading. And also for remote connections to Linux machines, when I'm at the beach for example.
When I first saw it, I immediately understood that I had to have it. I bought Android version through Lenovo website. Windows just doesn't make sense to me on this device, it is not powerful enough, and it is a tablet! It is not supposed to replace a laptop. I don't find Windows apps ecosystem as good for mobile devices, as Android.
Waited about a week. Was very excited, when I finally got a package (yeah, I know, I'm a grown-up baby ). And, unfortunately, was disappointed right out of the box. The screen was defective (I even posted it here, lol): uneven color temperature to such level, that I cannot stand. But, I decided to give it a try anyways.
1. Hardware is impressive. Tablet looks fantastic. Sound is very good for the device of this size. I'm still blown away by a case itself. I liked the hinge, and how you can easily transform the tablet.
2. Halo keyboard looks futuristic. And it is OK for typing. I saw many reviews heavily criticizing it, but it is fine. Yes, you cannot type as fast, as on the mechanical keyboard, but it is still much faster than on the on-screen keyboard. Well, touchpad is bad and doesn't support multi-touch (though manual suggests it does), but I actually don't think one needs a touchpad on Android, so I don't complain here.
3. Drawing and note-taking on the Wacom surface is reliable and was a good experience for me. It is a little bit awkward in the beginning to physically write not directly on top of the area where image appears, but it is very easy to get used to. No buttons on the pen though.
4. Atom CPU is more than enough, device felt very responsive overall. However, I did notice it stuttered while charging, probably due to thermal throttling. But on battery I didn't notice any performance issues with the apps I used.
5. Now comes a weak part. Software.
I liked the taskbar, it is nice and useful, but overall, stock software feels like it is a beta version, and it is very basic (to say the least). Especially Lenovo apps (including note-taking). Well, not a real minus, since there are good apps in Google Store. But Lenovo Android customizations definitely need polishing.
Multi-window is almost useless, you cannot resize apps, but only have a smartphone-like size. And in windowed mode apps very often crash (I actually don't remember, when was the last time anything crashed on my Nexus 5, but I root-customized it...).
Some settings simply don't work: no matter what you do, it resets itself back to the default value. For some reason, I couldn't select my Google account as a backup account... Encryption is enabled by default, and you cannot disable it (it actually resulted in a factory reset, see below). Transition animations constantly turned on/off by themselves. And manual is simply inconsistent with the actual software.
I didn't find an easy way to switch Halo keyboard languages.
No customization for note-taking app: every time you switch to Wacom input mode, annoying Lenovo note-taking small window appears, and you have to close it in order to continue drawing in your app.
I had a nasty experience with an update. While updating everything seemed normal, but on the final boot I got a message "Encryption failed. Your tablet will be factory reset". And, yep, I got a completely fresh system, but it was updated. :good: And since there was no option to use my Google account for backup, I had to reinstall and reconfigure everything again. :silly:
Taking all that into account with my initial hardware problem, I just decided to return my YogaBook. I should say, it does feel sad a little bit as it is a very unique device. Honestly, I really wanted to love this device. But it definitely needs polishing, and if you're not a gadget enthusiast, you probably should wait for the next version.
disagree in all points
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Hanfried said:
disagree in all points
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Sure. Do you disagree on all points or only on negative ones?
I really wanted to love this device. Well, I'm returning mine anyways because of the screen issue. I went with my YogaBook to BestBuy and compared it to other tablets, and yep, even Samsung Tab A 10.1'' has a better screen than my tablet. This is definitely unacceptable.
I'm not 100% sure though, if I should just return it or actually do an exchange. But I'm returning, because in this case, if I change my mind, I can purchase a new one (hopefully, without screen defects) (effectively do an "exchange").
If you could be so kind, and point out to me how to fix these software glitches, I would really appreciate it.
couldnt agree more. I personally contacted lenovo in order to return the yoga book too. so disappointed. I think they should have installed Chromebook OS
BTW, I also had the problem with the upgrade and I had to reset everything...
Just curious . . . .
Don't you think the problems will be solved with updates? It is a new product after all. :silly:
spmcd said:
Don't you think the problems will be solved with updates? It is a new product after all. :silly:
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Maybe. That's why I say one should wait for another version.
I have bought Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 with S Pen, and this tablet actually performs much better than YogaBook, despite lower specs. Moreover, it actually feels much more comfortable to write directly on the screen.
I just got mine in uae and despite its flaws i really love this device because of the battery life, sound, display and the wacom stylus. Sure the halo keyboard needs some more work but otherwise it works as intended. Just waiting for someone to make a remix os for this.
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Maybe. That's why I say one should wait for another version.
I have bought Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 with S Pen, and this tablet actually performs much better than YogaBook, despite lower specs. Moreover, it actually feels much more comfortable to write directly on the screen.
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I pulled the trigger and am going to give it a try. The biggest selling point for me is being able to take notes on paper and pen and then have handwriting recognition do its magic.
Also, there is "Any Pen" support for writing directly on the screen. Though it is not perfect, it should be enough for me.
Admittedly, I am still not 100% convinced and I will let you know how it goes when I get my hands on it.
i picked one up at last friday, i wanted a light decent 10 inch android tablet for mostly browsing, evernote and messing on, the keyboard is a compromise but suits my needs, if im going to do a large amount of typing ill do it on my desktop pc, I personally really like it overall but I just hope they bring Nougat to it so we can atleast have the 2 window option, other than that i lowered the dpi because it was far too high for me, and hopefully we get root soon so i can force chrome to always display desktop sites, as mobile sites on a 10 inch tablet is stupid.
oh i also wish you could scroll easily with the trackpad but i guess thats an Android limitation.
Yeah true that really need that nougat. Has anyone tried installing remix os on their yoga book?
bisharat said:
Yeah true that really need that nougat. Has anyone tried installing remix os on their yoga book?
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I ůove this device so much but i must totaly agree that Lenovo should agree with jide and Remix OS should be preinstalled as the lenovo modified android realy sucks and is inmature... BTW i am intersted in same Did anyone?
I love it, you have to get used to it
Got mine few days ago.
I love it.
It takes some adjusting of workflows, but it is new, it is different, it is astonishing! Those are the reasons I bought it!.
HINGE IS MIND BLOWING!!!
Coming from range of tablets (Samsung 7" once upon a time, 10.1 Samsung, Xperia tablet z...) and many phones from different manufacturers, keeping just glass/glass as lite motiv (iPhone 4,xperia z1, S6 edge, S7 edge) I confirm it is different!
Missing lot of Samsung staf, missing lot of IOS stuff, but who cares. Playstore can provide all needed apps for my life/work stile.
It is little bit havy, looking at you keybd, but it has a keybd. For others I had to buy separate one. Halo is not a PC (Mak) keybd, but tablet is not a PC nor Mak. This just works It would be nice to change halo keybd (what you can see) but I can live with German layout I've got, just installed swift and off we go!
The only thing that is a real problem is waterproofing! I was so happy reading in a hot bath! When Experia started leaking it really hurts!
If someone knows about waterproof light case for yoga, please, pretty please let me know!
Everything else will solve it self out, root, android 7.... Just have some patience. XDA always brought a solution. For doubtful - check HTC HD forums...I forgot about my 2 phones, but development is still kicking!
Just that waterproofing IP 68 anybody?
P.S. You can swipe with mousepad, in android, just not 2 finger like manual is promissing.
I got mine today and I love it, but there are things (mostly software) that are bafflingly annoying... I got this device with the idea I could utilize Netflix's offline downloading feature only to find out it's not compatible... wtf... fail...
I got mine about three weeks ago and I'm quite happy with it. I "forgot" my work laptop in my office before Xmas and I was able to survive with my Yogabook (LTE version) so far. Android MS Office apps work sufficiently well for me. VPN and Citrix Terminal Client do their job. I only use my apps in full window mode because the task bar does the job for me. Yes, it's very basic but ok for me.
I had a lot of stability issues in the beginning. I figured out that most of the apps were installed on the 128 GB sd card by default. After moving all (no exceptions) apps to internal storage, there were no crashes anymore. I already used this solution for another Android device with lots of crashes.
It took a while to get used to the keyboard but it is possible to do 10 finger typing at medium speed after some training. I just had to switch off the word completion feature because it began to drive me crazy.
After watching some Youtube videos from an artist who uses his Yogabook as a professional drawing device, I even became motivated to try it out myself. Before I just used the pen to take some notes in Evernote. It's actually quite some fun to use it for drawing and I had to buy the add-on stuff of the ArtFlow app.
Yes, it's annoying that it is not possible to download stuff to the tablet via the Netflix app. Amazon, Spotify, and Maxdome download content works well, however, in offline mode. The HDMI output to an HD TV or a projector looks good, too. Both for video streaming and Powerpoint presentations.
In summary, I'm quite happy with it ... even as an unplanned replacement for my work laptop ...
the drawing surface work with other apps or just the lenovo drawing app? for example Adobe sketch
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the drawing surface work with other apps or just the lenovo drawing app? for example Adobe sketch
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It works great with Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Layer Paint. However somehow most brushes do not work with Corel painter.
I personally find drawing on Yogabook to be more responsive and less alggy than compared to my Samsung 10.1 2014.
hajkan said:
It works great with Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Layer Paint. However somehow most brushes do not work with Corel painter.
I personally find drawing on Yogabook to be more responsive and less alggy than compared to my Samsung 10.1 2014.
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I used so far without issues: ArtFlow and ArtRage for Drawing, Evernote and Lenovo Note Taker for handwritten notes, Ez PDF for annotating pdf documents.
For my purposes, the pen is very accurate and responsive. In ArtFlow the pen pressure dependent line thickness and color intensity work very well.
Small addition. It survived nasti drop from table height in the office, rough terrain (PC, table legs, chair legs).
Ugly dent in metal and some scratches. That is a drawback of metal build! Glass glass will shater or survive without evidence.
BUT IT WORKS no problem at all!
Stupid question
How to @ on the Halo keyboard?
Shift + @