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Hi All,
I ordered the HTC y cable and 3.5mm stereo adapter from Expansys over 2 weeks ago.
The y cable (according to their website was IN STOCK) and there was a 4 day wait for the 3.5mm adapter.
Well its been two weeks since then and this is the status of my order till it arrives at their store.
Y cable - ESTIMATED 11 DAYS
3.5mm ADAPTER - ESTIMATED 31 DAYS.
I called them up yesterday about this and they said that they have over 400 orders on the above and that HTC hasnt supplied them stock since Q4 of last year.
So why do they mislead their customers and say some items are in stock and some have only "4 days" till they get stock. Its been 2 damn weeks already and it may have to wait another month.
This is false advertising.
I will call them up later this week and see what is going on (they already have my money) before deciding whether or not I should speak to a consumer ombudsman.
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i had a smiliar problem with my p4350 and treo 680 batteries. i ordered them and both were in stock after about 4 days but my online status said that it would take about 5 days more because of the treo 680 battery which was in stock when i ordered (they waited for the p4350 battery at the beginning).
after i complained via email (to expansys germany) they offered to ship the order seperately free of extra charge but i had to wait several more days for the treo 680 battery to be shipped.
then the status said both items were shipped and i got both of them the next day.
have to say i wanted to cancel order, suddenly it CAN be shipped. very strange shop.
but i got the 3,5mm adapter from doml.com much cheaper and after about 1 week (shipping to GER). so better order it there ...
ps: they also said that some items are in stock but from their us storehouse, and then it would take about a week to arrive there.
I had the same problem.... was 4 days when i ordered. been 2 weeks now, and the status is STILL 10 days.
there are others that are perhaps now better that wont be available until 15th Feb, at this rate they will arrive before the one I ordered weeks ago.
i have had similar problems with expansys, they promise what they cant deliver, i believe with deceptive and misleading conduct, knowing that they cannot possibly meet the demands with available supply.
the only saving grace i can find with them is that they dont take your money till they deliver the goods.
They told me that until both of my items are in stock, they won't ship, and they DON'T hold one item until the other comes in. I cancelled my order and went elsewhere...
bastards..... they think they can get away with anything...
Yep, been waiting for my items for about a month already.
me too
Order Placed: 1/3/2007 7:38 PM London UK Time
Customer:
Main Status: Awaiting Stock
Explanation: We are currently awaiting the stock required to fulfil your order.
Notes:
Remaining to be shipped: ORA HTC extUSB Stereo Headset Adaptor
Item Qty - 1
Ordered Qty - 1
Remaining Status - Usually Ships In 5 Days
my order status as of yesterday was 4 days for both items.
Checked today and it has increased to 10 days for both.
Based on the stats, they have 400 orders for the usb splitter and 3.5mm adapter, so if everyone pulls out they will lose around $20K.
Maybe we should email them and link them this thread.
I gave up on Expansys over a year ago. Their inventory system is nothing but a stack of BS. At one point I waited 3 months on an item, received the wrong item, had to argue for weeks that it really was wrong, and they still took 4 months to issue a credit.
It's a shame, because they used to be pretty good, but I suspect they just got too big to be customer friendly anymore
A friend of mine sent them an email concerning an Sony Ericsson phone because it was for sale on expansys but not on mobile planet (hes in the US) so they told him to order it off the expansys site and it'd take up to 14 days.. guess what, he never got it. This guys an idiot and never called or emailed to check it up so about a month later i called them for him and they said they will ship it in a week, never shipped so i called back and demanded a refund, btw they charged his credit card the 2nd day he put the order in.
They tried to give him store credit +50usd on expansys, not mobile planet instead of a refund. Thats some bull****, so i finally argued with them and threatened legal action blah blah and they refunded it.
Although right when the US expansys partnered with mobileplanet.com i ordered pocketpctechs screen protectors off them for my device and everything went smoothily, so i guess don't order things that are in high demand and maybe call them before making an order to make sure they have it in stock..?
my order status as of yesterday was 4 days for both items.
Checked today and it has increased to 10 days for both.
Based on the stats, they have 400 orders for the usb splitter and 3.5mm adapter, so if everyone pulls out they will lose around $20K.
Maybe we should email them and link them this thread.
Your not going to want to hear this but... HAVE PATIENTS!!!
I ordered mine on the 23rd Feb. It said 10 days. I checked it daily and the number of days went up and down like a yoyo.
Last wednesday it got as low as 4 days.
Thursday i checked again and it jumped up to 25 days, but with nothing else available i decided to wait.
Friday it said 13 days in the AM (i think)
Then Friday PM it said dispatched.
Sure enough it arrived Saturday morning...which was almost exactly the 10 days the site first said it would
I've since made an adapter out of mine... and so have a decent setup in my car!
(I just wonder if any of you that canceled your order helped me jump a place or two in the que speeding up my delivery?)
Expensive but im happy!
Mine finally arrived 2 days ago... it took a month from the time it was ordered to the time it arrived...
Oh Well... At least is does work.
Patience I will have if they correctly state the waiting times for their items.
If it says 4 days, people will most likely purchase hoping to receive it then.
They take your money and then hit you with a Month waiting list.
Now I do not know which country you guys are from, but in Australia that is illegal. the ACCC (Consumer Watchdog) should be notified about this as they are purposefully misleading the public.
Have you ever been to the Expansys dispatch/head office in Victoria? VERY unorganised, almost like a garage type setup. Every time I've had to deal with them I've had problems, they're a waste of time.
Mobileplant uses shady business practices
I have experienced everything described on this thread with Mobileplant. The worst thing is no one else is selling these HTC accessories. Where else can we go?
A few years ago they were expensive with great service. Now they are very expensive with lousy service, and use shady business practices. If I can get it anywhere else I do.
i ordered the ora 3.5mm adapter from expansys usa (mobileplanet), the one with the mic built in and hangup/answer button 2 days ago. it shipped yesterday.
Why not order your accessories through eBay. That's what I've done for years. It's much cheaper and most of the sellers run businesses so the shipping is quick.
Thats interesting... i have had great experiences with Expansys... i ordered my first 838Pro when they came out and it was on my door in 12 hours... but i havent ordered accessories as they are always hard to come by...
by law expansys cannot charge your CC until items have been shipped... if you want to part ship them they can split the order then charge what has been shipped to your CC...
so its been over 1 month since i placed my order on 12.02.2007 and i got nothing. I kept emailing them every day but they do not repond
i have order from expansys.de , payed though papypal but nothing
Apologies if this sounds stupid....so I ended up with 2 primes shipping, one 2nd day, one UPS 3 day select. Due to the holidays I will get one from Store A today. The one from Store B is due Thursday. Of course I'd like to open, charge, and start using the one from Store A today. However, I like the payment plan I used better for Store B.
Question? Will the vendor know which tablet they sent? Are the serial numbers on outside of the box? For example, keep item from Store A, but return item from Store B to Store A due to payment terms. Refund from Store A make payment to Store B.
Does that sound as wacky on screen as it does in my head????
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Apologies if this sounds stupid....so I ended up with 2 primes shipping, one 2nd day, one UPS 3 day select. Due to the holidays I will get one from Store A today. The one from Store B is due Thursday. Of course I'd like to open, charge, and start using the one from Store A today. However, I like the payment plan I used better for Store B.
Question? Will the vendor know which tablet they sent? Are the serial numbers on outside of the box? For example, keep item from Store A, but return item from Store B to Store A due to payment terms. Refund from Store A make payment to Store B.
Does that sound as wacky on screen as it does in my head????
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What you ask makes complete sense. I believe from unboxing videos I have seen the serial number is on the back of the box. (My prime from Best Buy will not be here until tomorrow) Not knowing the practices of the vendor you selected there is no way to know if they scan the serial number for tracking purposes. IMHO you should contact the vendor and simply ask. Better safe than sorry.
Thanks for the info, I figured like most electronics the S/N was on the outside of the box. I suppose I could call but that would be a strange conversation wouldn't it? "Yes I'd like to return this Prime I ordered from somewhere else, but it's still in the box." It was Newegg and ABT by the way.
I am debating Ebay but not sure how they are selling on there now?
They always check serials but you could always ask them
Nvidia always!
I'm pretty sure they can check the serial even if it wasn't on the case of the prime. The hardware Id or serial should be accessible in over of the menus. You'd probably get away with it, but I'm sure they could check if they really wanted to.
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Or you could just sell it to me if it's a champagne one it would really make my new year since I couldn't enjoy one on Christmas :-(
Try ebay or craigslist, might be able to make a little profit on it if you really want.
Depends on the store, I know for a fact Staples doesn't have a S/N on the receipt. They just check that the box and items S/N match when returned.
Thanks for the replies. I guess I have a day or two to decide. May go the EBay route and see if it sells.
Just stick it on Craiglist, odds are you can make a profit.
You can sell it to me.
I'll take it for free (;
Honestly, just attempt returning it. It's not illegal, so the worst that will happen is that they'll deny you and you'll be back to where you are now.
I'm pretty sure when they scan the bar code they will realize that it's not a match to the info in their system.
I'm in a similar situation. Ordered from store B on 12/4/11 and it shipped 12/23 to be delivered on 01/03/12. 18 months financing.
Purchased 2nd unit 12/19 from store C to be delivered 12/23 but then went to backordered status. Several phone calls to customer service at this store and I'm assured it will ship 12/28 to be delivered 12/29. I was given a $50 credit at this store against the purchase price but no financing deal. The full $450 will charge to my credit card.
I would like to have 18 months to pay but that would essentially mean I just paid $50 more for the unit.
I think I will list the brand new, unopened unit on Craigslist when it arrives from store B on 01/03/11 and use the $$$ to pay my credit card for the purchase at store c where I received the item for $50 less, rather than just returning the unit from store b.
Wow, that's confusing.
Serial number is on the bottom.
Just say you got a second as a present and don't know which is which - and ask if it matters.
January 11th and no store has a transformer prime in stock. Do you think they are working on a REv 2 before they fill retail channels?
I had a suspicion they were holding back on their shipments until ICS release. But just a wild guess.
Fry's has it in stock in stores... at least everywhere in Texas they do... I'm still waiting for my pre-order from Amazon though, as I am getting it for 1/2 price.
I thought of checking my 2 local Frys. But a few things are stopping me.
1) Tax
2) Stupid California Electronic Waste Recycling
3) Almost $200 in Amazon giftcards
4) I think they only have 32GB models at Frys (and BestBuy)? (May be mistaken here).
In all honestly, if it weren't for the extra $60+ it'll cost to get it from Frys because of #1 & #2 I'd get it, unless of course they don't have the 64GB models. I'm always buying stuff from Amazon, so the giftcards wouldn't go to waste.
I THINK Amazon has a longer return policy too... Although I'm not 100%.... This link really scares me:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=901900
"Computers purchased from Amazon.com which have been opened are subject to a partial refund of 85% of the sale price."
Note that that link seems almost impossible to find through Amazon itself, and has to be dug up through Google search.
Fortunately Amazon has really good customer service, so I'm sure it would only take a few phone calls to get a full refund, if it comes to that. (Plus if I return it it'll be because it's defective or if wifi is extremely ****ty, either way it'll be easier to argue for a full return). Example of Amazon's great customer service: http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/292156-amazon-waived-30-day-return-policy-my-touchpad.html
In case anyone's still interested in purchasing:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0EJ-0009-00001
Amazing that there have been so many deals for the View. Is HTC trying to kill off its stock? I absolutely love mine. The only thing I'd ask is for it to be slightly lighter, but aside from that, the hardware is absolutely perfect for me.
I was gonna buy it, but after looking at the reviews of the marketplace seller I just cant do it.
Seems like even the 5 star reviews were saying the seller was horrible.
jacobbones said:
I was gonna buy it, but after looking at the reviews of the marketplace seller I just cant do it.
Seems like even the 5 star reviews were saying the seller was horrible.
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Probably the majority of the users here with the View purchased theirs through through that seller - 1SaleADay. Most of us got it directly from the 1SaleADay website when they had it for sale there more than once. Yes, they're very slow and may not respond to questions, but it's because their products are dropped shipped. While it's no excuse for poor customer service, the fact is that they are merely a middle man selling the product. They don't actually have the product in stock at their own warehouses. It's wholly dependent on the company with the stock to get things shipped out. Again, it's no excuse, but it helps to provide a better understanding of what kind of company they are, along with how they're able to offer things cheaper than many other companies.
That said, everyone received their Views ordered through 1SaleADay in new, as-described condition (with the few exceptions that there always are when anything is shipped from any company). Purchasing through New Egg provides an added layer of protection for the buyer that none of us who purchased directly from 1SaleADay had. So if you really want one, I wouldn't let the seller put you off from buying it in this case. Generally I wouldn't say that for marketplace sellers (feedback is a great way to know who to buy from and who not to buy from), but in this case, it's a little different. It's a good price for a great device.
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Probably the majority of the users here with the View purchased theirs through through that seller - 1SaleADay. Most of us got it directly from the 1SaleADay website when they had it for sale there more than once. Yes, they're very slow and may not respond to questions, but it's because their products are dropped shipped.
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What is dropped shipped? I haven't heard that term before.
I got mine from eBay before Christmas from that one seller that sold 2000 in one day and then 3000 in one day the week after (bidallies I believe). No soft packing material, just cardboard, but mine arrived without a scratch. I'd say dealing with Newegg is the absolute best place to buy it, since you get their guarantee. It clearly says there is a 1 year warranty too, so that helps.
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What is dropped shipped? I haven't heard that term before.
I got mine from eBay before Christmas from that one seller that sold 2000 in one day and then 3000 in one day the week after (bidallies I believe). No soft packing material, just cardboard, but mine arrived without a scratch. I'd say dealing with Newegg is the absolute best place to buy it, since you get their guarantee. It clearly says there is a 1 year warranty too, so that helps.
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The all-knowing Wikipedia explains it better than I can:
"Drop shipping is a supply chain management technique in which the retailer does not keep goods in stock, but instead transfers customer orders and shipment details to either the manufacturer or a wholesaler, who then ships the goods directly to the customer. As in retail businesses, the majority of retailers make their profit on the difference between the wholesale and retail price but some retailers earn an agreed percentage of the sales in commission, paid by the wholesaler to the retailer."
So, the seller doesn't have the actual items, they ship from somewhere else, and the seller has little information on the items beyond what the manufacturer or wholesaler gives them. It definitely makes good customer service more difficult. It's not an excuse for the complete lack of customer service that 1SaleADay has however.
With the View, which ships from the U.S., this isn't so much of a problem. Pretty much everyone received their orders in a week to a week and a half. Where most of 1SaleADay's negative feedback comes from is much of the other stuff they sell, which is actually held and shipped from somewhere overseas (often China). Many of the items are sub-par, they break easily (often in transit), and it takes far too long for them to arrive. Before ordering my View, I had made two previous purchases through their site. The items arrived as described, and they worked just fine, but it took over three weeks for them to arrive. In addition to this, given the nature of how they do business, it's next to impossible to return anything through 1SaleADay or receive a refund. So, people buy cheap junk from them, it takes a month to arrive from somewhere overseas, and then when it doesn't work or breaks quickly, they're unable to get a refund or replacement, and in turn leave negative feedback (which is understandable). But sometimes, they do sell some good stuff, like the View. And I'd feel even more comfortable purchasing through New Egg because they have other customer protection measures in place.
Well I ended up buying the evo from newegg.
Im in no rush for it anyways. See how it goes
I ordered mine from 1saleaday and received it within 5 days of the order.
Probably will be importing the RN2 to the US.. Where are the cheapest and best places to get this device from? I'm worried that either: I'll get a fake, long shipping times or never receiving the product or wont honor any warranty issues.
Im new to MIUI, is there a custom recovery that I'll need? Do i have to worry about unlocking a bootloader? If so, can i relock for warranty issues?
EverBuying.Net has it for $174.99 (http://www.everbuying.net/product1078806.html). I have never used them myself so I can't vouch either way. But at the same time, the RN2 is a known quantity, and whichever dealer you buy it from should get you the same thing (+/- customer service). I do have an order for one myself at GearBest, but it is a complete disaster, and I would not recommend them at the moment. I preordered it on 3 Sep, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep and said it would ship in 3-5 days, and now ~6 weeks later it is still in the processing stage. I have used GearBest in the past for other stuff, and even though orders have taken up to 5-6 days in processing, they have never been like this. For some reason, they are filling orders that arrived much later like end September and early October before filling the preorders.
I bought mine from minideal.net.
Originally placed an order with gearbest they requested a copy of my credit card and driving license and said it was extra security measures.
I didn't feel comfprtable so I cancelled the order.
Placed the order with minideal.net on a Saturday night received the phone Friday mid-day so essentially took 4 and a half working days to get here (i did pay a bit extra for DHL) worth it in my opinion.
Im from germany
I bought it from Spain for 240 € ( Amazon )
It came with a otg cable a back cover
and glass Front cover
Its the prime model
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EverBuying.Net has it for $174.99 I have never used them myself so I can't vouch either way. But at the same time, the RN2 is a known quantity, and whichever dealer you buy it from should get you the same thing (+/- customer service). I do have an order for one myself at GearBest, but it is a complete disaster, and I would not recommend them at the moment. I preordered it on 3 Sep, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep and said it would ship in 3-5 days, and now ~6 weeks later it is still in the processing stage. I have used GearBest in the past for other stuff, and even though orders have taken up to 5-6 days in processing, they have never been like this. For some reason, they are filling orders that arrived much later like end September and early October before filling the preorders.
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Everbuying and Gearbest are the same company! Good luck! I too have received excellent service from Gearbest as well as horrible delays, lies from Gearbest. You puts down your money and you takes your chances!
Thanks guys for your input.. minideal for some reason isnt letting me enter a USA address. But looks promising with the screen protector and case.
Now im worried as I was going to buy from gearbest or everbuying
any other options that are similarly priced with a 1yr warranty?
tlxxxsracer said:
Thanks guys for your input.. minideal for some reason isnt letting me enter a USA address. But looks promising with the screen protector and case.
Now im worried as I was going to buy from gearbest or everbuying any other options that are similarly priced with a 1yr warranty?
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GearBest finally sent me a shipping notification this morning with a picture of my package. So, they do have them in stock at the moment unless they have sold out again already. For the record, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep, and said it would ship out in 3-5 days at that point, but the reality is that it has taken up till today to ship. There is obviously a huge demand for this.
kusamba, thanks for confirming that Gearbest and Everbuying are actually the same company. I started considering this possibility recently because their LiveChat services always opened/closed at the same time and had the same status indications, and also because of similarities in the websites, and within their promo e-mail headers. So it is interesting to see this is actually the case.
tlxxxsracer, Gearbest/Everbuying do seem to have the best prices. The Everbuying link shows about $5 cheaper, however. The slight difference is you can get DHL shipping from Everbuying on the product for about $5, too. The same DHL shipping on Gearbest is like $25. At least these were the prices a couple of days ago when I was getting ready to cancel my Gearbest order. My point is that for the same price, in one case you get DHL 3-5 day expedited shipping (Everbuying), but in the other case you get non-expedited version (Gearbest).
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GearBest finally sent me a shipping notification this morning with a picture of my package. So, they do have them in stock at the moment unless they have sold out again already. For the record, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep, and said it would ship out in 3-5 days at that point, but the reality is that it has taken up till today to ship. There is obviously a huge demand for this.
kusamba, thanks for confirming that Gearbest and Everbuying are actually the same company. I started considering this possibility recently because their LiveChat services always opened/closed at the same time and had the same status indications, and also because of similarities in the websites, and within their promo e-mail headers. So it is interesting to see this is actually the case.
tlxxxsracer, Gearbest/Everbuying do seem to have the best prices. The Everbuying link shows about $5 cheaper, however. The slight difference is you can get DHL shipping from Everbuying on the product for about $5, too. The same DHL shipping on Gearbest is like $25. At least these were the prices a couple of days ago when I was getting ready to cancel my Gearbest order. My point is that for the same price, in one case you get DHL 3-5 day expedited shipping (Everbuying), but in the other case you get non-expedited version (Gearbest).
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but dont you get charged with import/customs tax if you choose DHL?
im thinking of going with geekbuying
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but dont you get charged with import/customs tax if you choose DHL?
im thinking of going with geekbuying
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Personally, I have never been charged import/customs tax when ordering stuff from China vendors, but I guess it is always a possibility. Nonetheless, I suspect it is not a very common occurrence simply because in the big picture, these purchases are small potatoes. If you were ordering mass quantities of items for probable resale, I can imagine things would be significantly different.
I have never ordered from GeekBuying myself, but I would not be hesitant to give them a shot if I were you because they are an established vendor that has been around for a while. I think there is some amount of gambling with every Chinese vendor because most are probably running with just-in-time inventories, and they will be loathe to admit they don't actually have an item in stock for fear of missing a sale. Regarding my purchase with GearBest, there is no question that the experience with this purchase was extremely frustrating. But I have used them several times in the past, too, and never had a problem like I've had with the RN2.
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GearBest finally sent me a shipping notification this morning with a picture of my package. So, they do have them in stock at the moment unless they have sold out again already. For the record, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep, and said it would ship out in 3-5 days at that point, but the reality is that it has taken up till today to ship. There is obviously a huge demand for this.
kusamba, thanks for confirming that Gearbest and Everbuying are actually the same company. I started considering this possibility recently because their LiveChat services always opened/closed at the same time and had the same status indications, and also because of similarities in the websites, and within their promo e-mail headers. So it is interesting to see this is actually the case.
tlxxxsracer, Gearbest/Everbuying do seem to have the best prices. The Everbuying link shows about $5 cheaper, however. The slight difference is you can get DHL shipping from Everbuying on the product for about $5, too. The same DHL shipping on Gearbest is like $25. At least these were the prices a couple of days ago when I was getting ready to cancel my Gearbest order. My point is that for the same price, in one case you get DHL 3-5 day expedited shipping (Everbuying), but in the other case you get non-expedited version (Gearbest).
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I would still buy from Gearbest or Everbuying because, from what I read, the online dealers are pretty much all alike - some good experiences, some bad. My worst experience was with GeekBuying just last month - I needed a phone and a tablet delivered within 20 days - went to their chat, was confirmed 70 tablets in stock - that both the phone and tablet would be delivered (to the USA) in plenty of time - they had me do 2 separate orders since the 2 items would ship from different warehouses - they told me to chat again after I placed the orders which I did - they made many promises - the phone (Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime) went out in about 5 days - regarding the tablet, I received a fake DHL tracking number but other than a series of lies, nothing - a few days before the deadline, they cancelled the sale, refunding to Paypal the cost of the tablet but not the $10.60 DHL fee. I got one of these Redmi Note 2s from to2c - they shipped quickly but do not respond to my requests for support on this phone - maybe they went out of business.
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Everbuying and Gearbest are the same company! Good luck! I too have received excellent service from Gearbest as well as horrible delays, lies from Gearbest. You puts down your money and you takes your chances!
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Everbuying and Gearbest are the same company??!!! dang! I ordered one and was hoping I won't be getting all the pop-ups like someone who got one from Gearbest
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I would still buy from Gearbest or Everbuying because, from what I read, the online dealers are pretty much all alike - some good experiences, some bad. My worst experience was with GeekBuying just last month - I needed a phone and a tablet delivered within 20 days - went to their chat, was confirmed 70 tablets in stock - that both the phone and tablet would be delivered (to the USA) in plenty of time - they had me do 2 separate orders since the 2 items would ship from different warehouses - they told me to chat again after I placed the orders which I did - they made many promises - the phone (Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime) went out in about 5 days - regarding the tablet, I received a fake DHL tracking number but other than a series of lies, nothing - a few days before the deadline, they cancelled the sale, refunding to Paypal the cost of the tablet but not the $10.60 DHL fee. I got one of these Redmi Note 2s from to2c - they shipped quickly but do not respond to my requests for support on this phone - maybe they went out of business.
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I supposed the safest bet would be buying from reputable sellers on AliExpress. Should have ordered one from there and paid an extra $20 instead. Now I hope my order from Everbuying would come through.
I wouldn't recommend Gearbest. I bought from them using the preorder but they only shipped after I started a PayPal claim a month after they said they would ship.
I ordered mine from aliexpress seller "Shenzhen Top-One Trading Co., Ltd." via DHL delivery. Arrived 1 week after order in Austria with no additional taxes or fees., like said in the description. It is the 16Gb TD version, but LTE and WDCMA are both working great for me.
I totally paid 155,14€ for phone + shipping.
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I ordered mine from aliexpress seller "Shenzhen Top-One Trading Co., Ltd." via DHL delivery. Arrived 1 week after order in Austria with no additional taxes or fees., like said in the description. It is the 16Gb TD version, but LTE and WDCMA are both working great for me.
I totally paid 155,14€ for phone + shipping.
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That's a great deal. I paid €173 for the phone shipped + around €30 import tax from Gearbest. Should have just waited to buy from Ali but I was too hyped and pre-ordered. Never again!
here is an update on my purchase from Everbuying if anyone is interested:
*placed order (Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime and temper glass protector) with a credit card, chose expedite shipping
*2 days after placing the order, got an email about order was put on hold, and they needed to verify payment (pic of credit card used showing only name, exp date, and last 4 digit of account number and a pic of ID showing name, pic, address and exp date). They actually needed the verification on the same day that I placed the order, but they didn't send an email about it. I only found out after seeing a message in the inbox of my Everbuying account... could have saved 2 days of time there had I known.
*1 day after payment verification, order "was shipped" with a DHL tracking number (according to DHL, shipping info was received)
*DHL waited 6 days to pick up the package, (or the seller waited 6 days to actually send the package)
*DHL delivered the order 3 days after
**There was hardly any protection. The original box was not wrapped around with plastic bubbles. It was put inside another box with some plastic bubbles placed on top of the original box, and everything was put inside a DHL shipping plastic bag. When I opened the package, the outside box was a little moist because it was running like dogs and cats on the day of delivery. But the temper glass package and the original Xiaomi box seemed to be dry. Lucky there.
All in all, I guess my first purchase experience from Everbuying was considered good.
I supposed the safest bet would be buying from reputable sellers on AliExpress. Should have ordered one from there and paid an extra $20 instead. Now I hope my order from Everbuying would come through
I never dreamed I would hear "reputable sellers" and "AliExpress" in the same sentence - to me, they are a real crap shoot.
kusamba said:
I supposed the safest bet would be buying from reputable sellers on AliExpress. Should have ordered one from there and paid an extra $20 instead. Now I hope my order from Everbuying would come through
I never dreamed I would hear "reputable sellers" and "AliExpress" in the same sentence - to me, they are a real crap shoot.
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They're getting better, the problem is most people go to Aliexpress for impossibly low prices. Therefore, if you want to survive as a seller on Aliexpress, you are forced to compete almost entirely on price. Aliexpress sellers usually work on razor thin margins, so most people just sell part time, and don't really care enough about the business to put real effort into customer satisfaction.
I actually have a sellers account on Aliexpress, so I can say with fair confidence that any products that sell for less than 6 or 7 dollars probably do not ship with real tracking numbers. Technically, the sellers are violating Aliexpress TOS. However, most budget sellers still do this because customers tend to reward sellers who list products with impossible prices. The only way to get ahead is by cutting corners, especially on shipping/tracking and sometimes with the product itself.
Aliexpress takes up to 30% commission and a tracking number adds more than 3 dollars to the shipping cost, so do the math. I can sell a 3 dollar product, but I need to price it at over 7 dollars just to break even and this doesn't even begin to cover the other costs of running a business or make it worth my time. Play by the rules, and you can charge 7 dollars for a 3 dollar product and still lose money on each sale, but if you disregard the rules and cut corners you can sell for 4.50 and make a profit. So, who will you buy from? Someone selling the same product at 7.50, or 4.50?
Aliexpress could crack down on sellers, but this would bring prices up and Aliexpress customers are typically looking for bargain basement deals. That's just how the cookie crumbles.
I should note that Aliexpress is extremely strict about listing branded products now in an effort to cut down on counterfeits. You need to apply for permission if you so much as mention a brand name anywhere in your listing. I suppose there are benefits to this, but some brand names are also fairly common words. A real pain in the ass when writing product descriptions.
For example, "NEW 2015 plush granny smith apple pillow, soft, squishy and nice! Pls Buy OMFG dear GOD I need the monies."
Aliexpress: "*****, I see you mentioned Apple. Change it now before the long noodley appendages of Apple's tentacle beast™ molest us all!
kusamba said:
I supposed the safest bet would be buying from reputable sellers on AliExpress. Should have ordered one from there and paid an extra $20 instead. Now I hope my order from Everbuying would come through
I never dreamed I would hear "reputable sellers" and "AliExpress" in the same sentence - to me, they are a real crap shoot.
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*Knock on wood*
I have placed over 20 orders this year using AliExpress just this year alone. Never an issue. You will just have to pick and choose good vendors from reading the reviews, and understand why you're even buying on AliExpress.
To be fair to some of the vendors on there, a lot of the complaints I read from the consumers was that people were expecting to get a Mercedes for the price of a Daewoo. Not going to happen. And often times I could clearly see that people do not read the entire description of product and service and whine about it later. And then of course there are a lot of sellers who would cheat customers. Good thing about AliExpress is they won't release funds to the sellers until all parties are satisfied with the transactions.
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*Knock on wood*
I have placed over 20 orders this year using AliExpress just this year alone. Never an issue. You will just have to pick and choose good vendors from reading the reviews, and understand why you're even buying on AliExpress.
To be fair to some of the vendors on there, a lot of the complaints I read from the consumers was that people were expecting to get a Mercedes for the price of a Daewoo. Not going to happen. And often times I could clearly see that people do not read the entire description of product and service and whine about it later. And then of course there are a lot of sellers who would cheat customers. Good thing about AliExpress is they won't release funds to the sellers until all parties are satisfied with the transactions.
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That's true, they also take forever to release funds so in theory you shouldn't have a problem getting your money back if there is a problem. Although I've never had a customer dispute a sale or file a complaint, most customers don't confirm receiving orders either. So, usually Ali only releases funds several weeks after product tracking shows delivery. It feels like 2 months sometimes. If you sell any amount of volume, you have to front at least 6-8 weeks cash for everything you sell. Which is probably why Aliexpress offers financing...
Basically, Aliexpress puts on a promotion as an opportunity to give shops visibility by putting their product listing on the front page/promotions page. In order to play, you'll probably need financing to support the promotion, which Aliexpress offers. Featured listings/promotions may sell hundreds/thousands of units, and shops may not see any revenue from the sales for months. Combined with the requirement of slashing prices by x amount and Ali's cut, a lot of shops just bleed money and never get the expected post promotion exposure/sales. I have a friend who used to own a factory, and he noted that you can spend 1000-dollars trying to promote your shop on Ali and only make 200 dollars in sales. Needless to say he doesn't sell on Aliexpress anymore.
As it turns out, it's quite difficult striking a balance between keeping customers and sellers happy on a platform. For sure, I hope Aliexpress cracks down on sellers who use fake tracking numbers and other shenanigans though. Customers also need to realize that an item priced near the cost of shipping is probably not going to change your life. You're ordering from the dollar menu, high margin sales affords better customer support and after sale service, if you're losing money or making 5 cents on a sale it's hard to bend over backwards. Some people only make a few cents on an item that costs 5-6 dollars, so if a customer demands a replacement for example, that's the profit of 100 sales or so you're messing with, and most people on Aliexpress aren't swimming in sales. The only people who make real money on Ali are Jack Ma and China Post. That's just my 5 cents.
I read from the consumers was that people were expecting to get a Mercedes for the price of a Daewoo.
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That's true, they also take forever to release funds so in theory you shouldn't have a problem getting your money back if there is a problem. Although I've never had a customer dispute a sale or file a complaint, most customers don't confirm receiving orders either. So, usually Ali only releases funds several weeks after product tracking shows delivery. It feels like 2 months sometimes. If you sell any amount of volume, you have to front at least 6-8 weeks cash for everything you sell. Which is probably why Aliexpress offers financing...
Basically, Aliexpress puts on a promotion as an opportunity to give shops visibility by putting their product listing on the front page/promotions page. In order to play, you'll probably need financing to support the promotion, which Aliexpress offers. Featured listings/promotions may sell hundreds/thousands of units, and shops may not see any revenue from the sales for months. Combined with the requirement of slashing prices by x amount and Ali's cut, a lot of shops just bleed money and never get the expected post promotion exposure/sales. I have a friend who used to own a factory, and he noted that you can spend 1000-dollars trying to promote your shop on Ali and only make 200 dollars in sales. Needless to say he doesn't sell on Aliexpress anymore.
As it turns out, it's quite difficult striking a balance between keeping customers and sellers happy on a platform. For sure, I hope Aliexpress cracks down on sellers who use fake tracking numbers and other shenanigans though. Customers also need to realize that an item priced near the cost of shipping is probably not going to change your life. You're ordering from the dollar menu, high margin sales affords better customer support and after sale service, if you're losing money or making 5 cents on a sale it's hard to bend over backwards. Some people only make a few cents on an item that costs 5-6 dollars, so if a customer demands a replacement for example, that's the profit of 100 sales or so you're messing with, and most people on Aliexpress aren't swimming in sales. The only people who make real money on Ali are Jack Ma and China Post. That's just my 5 cents.
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Very insightful indeed. I'm staying up for the 11.11 AliExpress shopping spree. LMAO! :victory:
This is going off topic a tad and I'm sure the mods are not going to like it. But anyway, thanks for the info. Like I said, smart shoppers and reasonable buyers will have no trouble shopping on AliExpress. And I was happy to report that Everbuying wasn't as bad as all the bad reps that I read about online.