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ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.
good questions. i'd like to see these answered too
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ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
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Welcome to the world of Android! We hope you enjoy your stay ^__^. While I don't have a TBolt myself, I think any user opinion is good. Phone's auto updating is rare, like extremely rare, but I have seen it on some of the lesser model phones. I don't think you need to worry about it though. The free hotspot app however may be noticed and tagged as a tether as big red gets their chubby fingers around the few apps they are missing.
To root or not to root, that is the question.....or is it! The answer is up to you. If your comfortable with it than root it! All rooting will do is give you superuser ability, and the ability to flash custom roms/kernels/mods. If you want to keep the stock rom, than all you need to do is flash and nothing more. Rooting your phone doesn't auto flash some random rom. Roms are typically not built with an auto updater, so you only need to reflash a rom if you want to change roms or update to the newest version. I would say I flash at least an image a day on my Dinc. Once your rooted, regardless of the rom, I would suggest downloading some backup software (Titanium Backup or it's like for TBolt) and of course a tethering app, whether you want wired or wireless is up to you. Once you root, you lose your connection to big red's update servers and so you never have to worry about an update that returns you to stock like you do with i<anything's>.
Happy flashing!
fxb141 said:
ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.
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Tbolt just got netflix last week for stock users.
Even if you are not going to flash a custom ROM right now, I would root.
Reason being that rooting requires you to flash old firmware so your phone gets wiped. Better to do it now, then that way you can use apps like Titanium backup.
fxb141 said:
ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there are OTA's that can't be rooted.
What rooting your phone will do is install a new stock ROM which means it will wipe your whole phone. From there you can flash up to anything you want. Don't do rooting the lazy way. Use the ADB process and do it right. If you have a problem along the way, you'll be very glad you did it that way because you'd end up getting into ADB to fix any problem anyhow. Plus, jcase and other at andirc.net are very helpful.
If you root you will end up with whatever ROM is used during the root process. If you go to the development threads and to the stickied rooting instructions it will show you what RUU is used for the rooting process.
If you havent updated your phone you might even find that the ROM you get after rooting might be a newer version of the one you are using. If you want to stick with that ROM you can and just debloat it yourself or find another debloated ROM out there.
Once rooted you can use it similar to how you used your stock phone with no extra maintenance steps needed. If you start flashing nightlies or alpha/beta ROMs then you will start needing to monitor your phone for behavioral problems more.
There are no OTA's that cant be rooted. When an OTA comes out and you are rooted you should wait on flashing it as you would loose root if you did but in just a few days the dev's will create a rooted version to flash. Those OTA's will then be started to be used as the base for new ROMs.
Root! Root! Root!
As far as requiring tinkering as has been mentioned just rooting alone won't change a whole lot for your regular experience. The fun comes in trying out new ROMs. Some of the ROMs out there are very stable and once installed shouldn't need a whole lot of tinkering either (unless you get the FLASH habit that so many seem to develop and decide to flash a new one every day *wink*).
I rooted and installed Thundersense 1.5 onto mine, it's pretty nice. While I am running into some problems with bluetooth audio, having root capability means I can actually tinker with the phone's settings to try to fix issues instead of waiting forever for Verizon/HTC to push out another update that may or may not resolve whatever issue I have.
Not rooting is like driving around in a sports car with a parachute tied to the back.
Just do it.
When you root following Jcases method in the dev section you end up with a bone stock 1.13.605.7 with root. You might still get prompted for updates if you stay on the stock build but DO NOT ACCEPT if rooted. It will just cause problems and you might lose root or worse. I havent heard of Thunderbolts updating themselves but I have heard of Evos, I belive, that did. (according to users posts) So you never know but I belive something to do with Clockwork Mod Recovery(A custom recovery for android that you install after rooting.) will cause the update to fail anyway. As I understand it right now all OTAs can be rooted BUT the Gingerbread update will apparently close all known exploits to get root when it is released. There will always be rooted versions of the stock OTAs posted in the dev section you can flash if you want the newest updates and to be rooted. Of course there are lots of custom ROMs for the Thunderbolt to try out that are fast and stable. So I say root. It takes some reading and learning if you are new to it but its will worth it.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
rooted and reloaded software
Thanks all for your advice! I successfully rooted my TB and it only took a few minutes to reload my apps and get it into working order. netflix is jumpy now, but could be the connection - going to mess with that some. not a big loss anyway - more of a 'wow, thats cool' than useful.
appbrain and HTC Sync with outlook contacts worked great for quick 'restore'
another question though - i am trying to remove the bloat and things like vcast and vznav will not let me uninstall. what is the best way to do this? i know i am rooted - barnicle works and has superuser access.
also, any good cooked sense roms that someone can recommend? not looking for one that constantly needs attention, just some cool things like cpu under/over clocking ability, and if SOMEONE would get a ford sync app that i could use voice command to text over sync - that would rock too!
Synergy ROM is my ROM of choice. It's based on the newest GB leak for the Tbolt, and has Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features, so I find it less laggy than full on Sense 3.0 ROMs, and Ziggy's kernel (included in the ROM) works great with no SetCPU needed. It's worth a try. You can find a link to the download in my sig.
Happy flashing!
that's awesome. i was think this very thing. I'm sold, I'm rooting.
orkillakilla said:
Synergy ROM is my ROM of choice. It's based on the newest GB leak for the Tbolt, and has Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features, so I find it less laggy than full on Sense 3.0 ROMs, and Ziggy's kernel (included in the ROM) works great with no SetCPU needed. It's worth a try. You can find a link to the download in my sig.
Happy flashing!
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Thanks, I would probably try this ROM - Is there anything i would need to change on my stock everything, no updates, no frills TB - like, will i have to update the radio before flashing?
I must say, i love the synergy rom! it seems fast and really rocks! I did have to update my stock base version radio MR1 to MR2.5 so i had service. flashing went great. many kudos to each and every post i read with regard to rooting, flashing, radios and roms!!! yes, i am a lurker, but thanks all around!
fxb141 said:
I must say, i love the synergy rom! it seems fast and really rocks! I did have to update my stock base version radio MR1 to MR2.5 so i had service. flashing went great. many kudos to each and every post i read with regard to rooting, flashing, radios and roms!!! yes, i am a lurker, but thanks all around!
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Glad everything worked out and that you are enjoying Synergy. Don't be afraid to try other ROMs though. I've flashed almost every rom out there and decided to keep synergy.
Sent from my HTC GingerBolt powered by the lastest Synergy ROM
Too many horror stories for me to root just yet. However I get multiple update demands from verizon every day which is driving me crazy, and today was the first time it actually tried to update itself without permission. I just happened to open my phone at work and saw it trying to download the update on its own. There was no way to cancel it either, I had to reboot the phone immediately to make it stop. It has yet to reappear, but we'll see what happens.
Rooting isn't worth it. Most of the ROM's out now are just plain awful (some people have no taste).
What are these horror stories you speak of?? I haven't heard of one person brick their phone rooting and that's the only horror story I can think of involving rooting. It's actually a pretty easy process if you just read up on what you are doing first.
As for the claim all the ROMs suck...well everyone if entitled to their opinion but there are Froyo sense and de-sensed ROMs, Gingerbread sense and de-sensed ROMs, and AOSP ROMs. You can have sense 2.1, 3.0, or no sense. Lots of themes to choose from if you want them. I don't see how that list is any different from any other HTC phone. That is not even including the fact that a lot of them greatly improve performance and batery life.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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cjbailey75 said:
What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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Titanium backup is the only reason I root mine best backups that gets everything.
cjbailey75 said:
What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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Backups, Titanium Backup, system tweaks.
UI changes with deodexed ROMs in the future
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Adfree and being able to back up and completely wipe my system are my two main reasons. The second requires a little more than rooting though.
My hulu/windows hack is one reason (flash identifies as a windows machine so hulu and other sites dont block you for being a phone/tablet)
Hulu mod, custom bootanimation, button ui mod.
Root apps - AdFree, Titanium Backup, Hot Reboot, GameCIH, etc.
Remove bloat, run backtrack linux.
There are quite a few reasons...
Block ads
Apply themes/hacks/mods - currently I have a cool startup screen versus that lame Asus one
Better & faster backups with backup apps that support root
Get access to system files with r/w access to make tweaks
To add to what everyone else said, sixaxis so I can play games with my playstation controller over bluetooth
Your system is locked when you don't have root access, it's like on computers when you don't have admin access...
Rooting gives you total access to all OS, that is needed by many indispensable apps.
The next step is to have bootloader unlocked to be able to instal a custom recovery, like clockwork mod, and then to flash alternative ROM. Let's hope that Asus will soon enable users to unlock it as HTC did for example, to avoid devs loosing time to hack it.
Why didn't you buy a iPad then?
Don't say that it could be a signal for bad trolls to come here...
Without root/adb in recovery, not that much. Changing anything is risky, and will block incremental OTA updates (full system restore to the current releases should be possible)
Access to system logs, busybox to make the shell more usable.
Other than some minor tweaks to the UI, unless you're a dev, not a lot of point at the moment (given the risks and the instability of the official OS).
Personally, I'm going nowhere near the overclock side of things yet, for example (despite my phone being OC/UV quite happily).
Investigating the keyboard dock/undock wierdness maybe - that kind of thing.
With the backup app from ASUS, I don't think that Titanium Backup is that big a deal unless you're coming from another vendors Android tablet. I prefer TB.
I root for extra file system access and because I paid like $608.88 for this darn thing. I probably will retain the stock ROM after the bootloader unlock, but may opt to check out CM9 later, if officially available.
I don't need root to setup my environment but it is very nice to have!
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
I'm fully versed in rooting. I started with my view sonic gtab rooting customizing it. Then my evo now my rooted razr so I can tether free. But this tablet seems fast and smooth. I have titanium backup n know I can't batch install. I needed to have root on that POS gtab but I dont see a need to void my warranty or stop getting needed OTAs
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA App
Much easier to stream network shares over smb when rooted
I'm hopefully getting my TFP on Tuesday. Have a couple of quick questions about rooting, though.
1. Should I avoid getting any OTA updates until I've rooted (i.e. don't connect wifi)?
2. Does rooting void the warranty...or is that only happen once the bootloader gets unlocked?
Cheers!
Definitely for titanium backup but the Asus backup seems to work very well. Also adfree is a must have.
Right now with root there is nothing I've done that should stop an OTA or effect stability (except for maybe the 1.6mhz overclock BUT the Tegra chip is rated for that speed and it is cooked in there kernel just not factory turned on). Root to benefit backup apps... no problem. Root to add a startup screen.. no problem. Root itself & these root mods could all be undone in minutes IF needed.
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senatorxmg said:
I'm hopefully getting my TFP on Tuesday. Have a couple of quick questions about rooting, though.
1. Should I avoid getting any OTA updates until I've rooted (i.e. don't connect wifi)?
2. Does rooting void the warranty...or is that only happen once the bootloader gets unlocked?
Cheers!
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You could root now with one of several methods available here. Get Voodoo OTA root keeper app & that will save your root through the ICS update. I would root now.
I would not worry about warranty ImHO as they only said unlocked bootloader will do that & you could remove root with no trace.
cjbailey75 said:
I'm fully versed in rooting. I started with my view sonic gtab rooting customizing it. Then my evo now my rooted razr so I can tether free. But this tablet seems fast and smooth. I have titanium backup n know I can't batch install. I needed to have root on that POS gtab but I dont see a need to void my warranty or stop getting needed OTAs
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA App
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Luckily root doesn't stop ota updates on this device. And with voodoo ota rootkeeper you can install the ota and even keep your root!
Dear community,
I've rooted my TFP using the guide from xda. To be honest, I didn't mean to, I read the guide and got carried away with it . Finally the root is good now. As a windows guy and with slight understanding of linux I'm pretty new to android.
My question is, now that my tablet is rooted, how can I take advantage of it? What are the recommended apps? Any known tweaks?
Please enlighten me
Search 'root' on android market.
Titanium Backup is useful, Ghost Commander or EZ file, there are also apps to remote control your tablet, you can use new launchers - trebuchet launcher or nova launcher on rooted devices.
You can also delete system files, so be careful.
The biggest bonus to rooting is being able to flash different roms like many of us do with our android smartphones. Flashing roms is currently not an option on the Prime but should or could be available in the future. Right now I don't think there's a whole lot to do with a rooted Prime.
While I haven't rooted my Prime yet, I'm only in day 6 and waiting until the "send it back" period elapses I rooted my moto Atrix2 almost immediately. I installed Titanium Backup as well as System Tuner, and a couple other root only apps. The primary reason for rooting the Atrix2 was to freeze Carrier ID as I don't care for ATT snooping on me with without so much as a by your leave. In any case I'll probably root the Prime just to get more control over what the device is doing when it's in standby. For instance I am hoping to be able to use Tasker to shut off the wifi after 5 or 10 minutes in standby in order to save battery power and turn it back on,when I wake up the tablet. Maybe find a way to create different, more detailed power profiles for different activities. I've done a lot of this on the Atrix2 and seen some significant increases in battery life because of it.
Q
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The biggest bonus to rooting is being able to flash different roms like many of us do with our android smartphones. Flashing roms is currently not an option on the Prime but should or could be available in the future. Right now I don't think there's a whole lot to do with a rooted Prime.
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Incorrect, Rooting has nothing to do with flashing ROMs. Unlocking the bootloader on the other hand, has everything to do with flashing ROMs.
Swiftks said:
Incorrect, Rooting has nothing to do with flashing ROMs. Unlocking the bootloader on the other hand, has everything to do with flashing ROMs.
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right. i don't think that any ROM can improve the already very good existing one from ASUS.
I haven't rooted my TFP, but I'm seriously considering doing so. The main reason is that most of (good) adbockers require root access. Loading all this rubbish adds, many of them being large flash animations, slows down browsing experience significantly. I want to get rid of them and the only way I know is by rooting Android.
For me about the biggest thing is "AdAway" or any other app for updating host file.
Never see one single ad on your device again. Less anoyance, faster loading times in browser, less data consumption ...
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right. i don't think that any ROM can improve the already very good existing one from ASUS.
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You've never used CM7 then... soon to be CM9.
Sent from my CM7 Atrix 4G
I just got a new iconia a500 tab I've been reading and have learned that you can get certain apps by rooting but I'm wondering what specific apps can I get by rooting? I've also read you can install rooms can somebody explain to me what rooms are? Also if there's anything else I can achieve by rooting can you guys let me know. Also if I root will I still be able to download the updates that Acer pushes out like how they pushed out the pics update last week?
rcraig617 said:
I just got a new iconia a500 tab I've been reading and have learned that you can get certain apps by rooting but I'm wondering what specific apps can I get by rooting? I've also read you can install rooms can somebody explain to me what rooms are? Also if there's anything else I can achieve by rooting can you guys let me know. Also if I root will I still be able to download the updates that Acer pushes out like how they pushed out the pics update last week?
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Ok, first, rooting. Its the best thing I have ever done to my phone. It allowed me to install the custom ROM. The ROM is what your phone uses to run. It lets you get the latest operating system before its officially released, or get the fastest ROM around where all the bloatware (phone companies crap) that you don't need that is slowing your phone down is removed. Think of ROM as your phones engine. You can get a fast performance ROM or a flashy eye candy ROM. Read up on what you want your phone to do or what you would like to see from your phone, then you can decide on a ROM.
As for updates, you will not be able to get updates, because your phone will become 'disconnected' so to speak, from ACER. So if your running Android 2.3.4 or whatever, you won't be able to update your Android OS until you un-root. But again, with a custom ROM you probably wont need to update. ROMS are usually updated, adding the latest gizmo or tweak, and minor improvements are done quicker than ACER would do them (usually)
And for programs, you can run tether programs without having to subscribe (lets your phone become a modem for you electronics) and costing you money. You can get programs that allow you to change everything about your phone (SuperUser), make backups that surpass anything out there (Titanium Backup), Freeze apps that are sucking your phones memory or power (again TB), block apps that are using your network without your knowledge or permission.
There are a ton of reasons to root, and a few reasons not to (possible brick, void warranty, etc). So you need to decide, do you want total control to do whatever you want to your phone, or are you happy with how it is now and in the future?
There will probably be a ton more folks chiming in, so take what you get from the other folks, I only recently rooted my Thunderbolt, do I am not a pro at this stuff.
Thanks for chiming in you kind of helped me understand more about roms but can anyone with a tablet let me know what you've done to your tablet once you rooted it.
I've got a galaxy Tab 10.1, which currently runs Honeycomb if you ask a Samsung bod. I pretty much rooted on day one so that I could take full system backups and restore to a previous point if I needed to.
Then I discovered AOKP, which is an ICS system based on Cyanogen, but different at the same time (I happen to think it's better) as they actually support the P4wifi (Tab).
So I have three full system backups on my Tab, created using Rom Manager/CWM. The original Honeycomb as shipped and supported by Samsung, AOKP ICS and Cyanogen ICS.
As the ICS ROMs don't have camera functionality on the Tab yet, I can switch back to Honeycomb within about 5 minutes, take a picture and restore ICS in another 5 minutes.
Hello all. I've had my G3 for 3 weeks and am loving it more every day. I came from a note 2 which like every android phone before it I rooted to obtain better performance. However I'm not really seeing any performance issues with the G3 to justify it.
I do miss profiles from CM, but its not a deal breaker. It would be nice to backup my apps, but idk if there is really a need.
I guess what I'm asking is are you guys seeing any huge gains by rooting other than being able to get rid of the bloat?
Of course people on this forum are going to be pro-root. It's a ridiculously simple process with Stump and will take you 5 minutes at the most, but if you're not using root apps like Root Explorer, AdFree, WiFi Tether Router, etc. or don't want to deck your device out with G3 Tweakbox then just keep it as it. I couldn't imagine having an Android device without root access, although I do agree this device is pretty awesome out of the box. I don't see myself flashing a ROM on this anytime soon.
I would have to agree with the guy above. I just recently bought my Sprint LG G3 and its only been a few days but I went ahead and rooted it because I believe I can get even more out of it (as in battery life). I do not care for performance as I believe the G3 is already a powerhouse. However, I just now rooted my G3 and the only (and probably the last besides flashing roms here and there) root adjustments I have done is remove stock applications that I would not of been able to if I was not rooted. I believe that stock applications can slow down your phone since they are always running in the background (which can take up battery and potentially data).
All in all, if you truly are satisfied with your phone's performance, don't root. Rooting is complicated and comes with lots of risks. If you already love your phone and nothing bothers you (like stock apps for me, etc.) then don't bother.
Hope this helps!
Well that's my issue, 2 things that are irritating me are not having root explorer and apps being able to save to the SD card though I know root won't fix that.
I guess I just am tired of flashing roms right now maybe. But I do miss having root for a couple apps and I'd love to get rid of some bloat for sure.
Can you successfully freeze or uninstall the connections optimizer? Anybody running the pre-rooted zv6?
Macguyver said:
Well that's my issue, 2 things that are irritating me are not having root explorer and apps being able to save to the SD card though I know root won't fix that.
I guess I just am tired of flashing roms right now maybe. But I do miss having root for a couple apps and I'd love to get rid of some bloat for sure.
Can you successfully freeze or uninstall the connections optimizer? Anybody running the pre-booked zv6?
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You can uninstall it completely on stock rooted zv6
SD Card writing is a big reason
The ability to restore prior apps and data has saved me a few times when I updated to what turned out to be a buggy app update.
Nandroids, nandroids, nandroids. Which wouldn't be important except for:
- The ability to freeze / delete bloatware (there are a few big battery killers among LG's bloat)
- The ability to install various sorts of patches and tweaks (to increase volume, for example)
G3Tweaksbox, G3Tweaksbox, G3Tweaksbox
Xposed
Custom Kernels - eliminate the stupid over-sharpening once and for all.
BarRin ROM
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The first few days I had this phone, I wondered if it'd be the first android device I hadn't rooted,because it was pretty impressive as is. But within 2 days, I couldn't stand having bloat, I couldn't stand not having root explorer, I couldn't stand not having inverted apps, and I couldn't stand not having tether, and mostly, i couldnt stand not having the ability to fix/change sh1t that I may find to be buggy down the road.
Yes, it's a great device stock. But without root, it's not YOUR great device.
meyerweb said:
SD Card writing is a big reason
The ability to restore prior apps and data has saved me a few times when I updated to what turned out to be a buggy app update.
Nandroids, nandroids, nandroids. Which wouldn't be important except for:
- The ability to freeze / delete bloatware (there are a few big battery killers among LG's bloat)
- The ability to install various sorts of patches and tweaks (to increase volume, for example)
G3Tweaksbox, G3Tweaksbox, G3Tweaksbox
Xposed
Custom Kernels - eliminate the stupid over-sharpening once and for all.
BarRin ROM
Ad Blocking
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thanks guys,
so with the ROMS like BarRin apps can write to the SD card?
Macguyver said:
thanks guys,
so with the ROMS like BarRin apps can write to the SD card?
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Yes, BarRin includes this fix. There are also stand-alone apps that provide that capability on rooted phones, like this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
Root is the only way. It gives us our phone back. Gets rid of bullsh**. They wanna watch us and secretly see what we do. That is not cool. Take back our phones. Why must sprint load us with bloat? The sheep have no idea how much we are watched. There is no agreement that says they can see everything we do openly. We agree when we buy that does not mean it has to stay that way.
The main reason I rooted was to obtain tehering (hotspot)and not pay extra $$$