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Hey guys, can you explain in short and SIMPLE terms the difference regarding the results of these 2 rooting methods in the DEV Sticky:
1. [ROOT] RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter | Updated 06.04.12 Automated root
method. Unlock with custom recovery and superuser.
2. How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux] - by Zedomax
does one give more access or is preferable over the other? or will both give you the same result with a different way achieving it?
Help would be appreciated!!! THANKS!
I think one is just for Windows and as easy as clicking the file open, while the other is a little more complicated because you have to do a few quick commands, but it does work on all systems, Win/Mac/Linux
Could be wrong though.
edit: Woops, I think the RegawMOD will give you a custom recovery as well, while the other Zedomax just gives root.
The first method actually unlocks the device with HTC and adds a custom recovery(TWRP)so that you can flash ROMs and whatnot. The second option just roots and installs superuser and busybox.
alexwick said:
Hey guys, can you explain in short and SIMPLE terms the difference regarding the results of these 2 rooting methods in the DEV Sticky:
1. [ROOT] RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter | Updated 06.04.12 Automated root
method. Unlock with custom recovery and superuser.
2. How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux] - by Zedomax
does one give more access or is preferable over the other? or will both give you the same result with a different way achieving it?
Help would be appreciated!!! THANKS!
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I think Zedomax just roots your device and regawMod roots and unlocks your device with HTC dev. All depends what u want ... Root only or root and unlock
Regawmod does access the unlock features from HTC dev and will void your HTC company warranty but will allow you to install roms because it also installs a custom recovery
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Edit: I don't want to spread misinformation, so I'll stay out of it.
alexwick said:
Hey guys, can you explain in short and SIMPLE terms the difference regarding the results of these 2 rooting methods in the DEV Sticky:
1. [ROOT] RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter | Updated 06.04.12 Automated root
method. Unlock with custom recovery and superuser.
2. How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux] - by Zedomax
does one give more access or is preferable over the other? or will both give you the same result with a different way achieving it?
Help would be appreciated!!! THANKS!
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Regaws method gives you an unlocked bootloader a custom recovery superuser and busybox. Where as zedomaxes only gives you superuser and busybox and you have to go to htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader manually to install a custom recovery of your choice. In all honesty go with regaws method its super fast and super easy its litterally one click and it runs itself. I was one his testers and it was by far the most painless root and unlock ive ever done.
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What if you rooted with zedomax can you use regaws to unlock bootloader? If no, then how can I unlock bootloader?
djscissorhands said:
What if you rooted with zedomax can you use regaws to unlock bootloader? If no, then how can I unlock bootloader?
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Yes, you can run Regaws right over Zedomaxs root.
Thanks for all these great answers.... Now.... To be also clear here.... Regaws WILL.. (technically and practically) void your warranty???
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So since both go through HTCDev and store your phone's serial number, it really doesn't matter if you use Zedomax first vs. using Regaw's method (which uses dummy HTCDev accounts). I only want to make sure because I'd prefer to do a TB backup before wiping my phone.
But I thought unlocking w/ HTCDev wiped data, so if they both do that, is there any way to back up my apps before I root?
alexwick said:
Thanks for all these great answers.... Now.... To be also clear here.... Regaws WILL.. (technically and practically) void your warranty???
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It will void your HTC "factory" warranty but if u have sprint tep then you can use the unroot and relock methods posted in the threads and you should be able to return them to sprint for repairs and such
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What if you rooted with zedomax can you use regaws to unlock bootloader? If no, then how can I unlock bootloader?
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Yes yoou can
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SilverZero said:
So since both go through HTCDev and store your phone's serial number, it really doesn't matter if you use Zedomax first vs. using Regaw's method (which uses dummy HTCDev accounts). I only want to make sure because I'd prefer to do a TB backup before wiping my phone.
But I thought unlocking w/ HTCDev wiped data, so if they both do that, is there any way to back up my apps before I root?
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Root wit zedomaxes first install tb backup then run regaws
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In addition to what's been said above, I suggest downloading both and closely examining the code.
Then, try to understand each step (or ask if you don't), then do it manually. Understanding the steps will help you in the future if/when there are problems.
TEP and Black Tie
just started a new thread about the insurance mentioned above... would like your thoughts on it
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i just got my amaze yesterday, i installed the official ics OTA this morning, and now i want to root it. Does the one click root program work for the Amaze while it is on stock ics or would i have to downgrade?
I'm not sure, Look for hasoons all in one tool in the dev section. Has recoveries root and another one specifically for s off. You will find you will use his tool if you flash constantly
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Hasoons tool wouldnt work for me when i updated to the WIND ICS OTA, i had to find the sudo package and install it via recovery. it did work for me in gingerbread.. just a heads up..
No one click. Read the stickies... Learn about unlocking bootloaders, 4 ext recovery, flashing superuser in recovery, and supercid. It's all rather simple. PLENTY of threads about it.
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dglowen23 said:
i just got my amaze yesterday, i installed the official ics OTA this morning, and now i want to root it. Does the one click root program work for the Amaze while it is on stock ics or would i have to downgrade?
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this is the video you wanna watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L30M6j8Kt-8
this is a ONE CLICK PERMANENT ROOT Tool http://androidandme.com/2011/10/hacks/how-to-root-the-htc-amaze-4g/
this is step by step rooting MUCH BETTER http://theunlockr.com/2012/05/01/how-to-root-htc-amaze-4g/
Here you go let me google that for you
NOW hit THANKS BUTTON
Jay_Rulen said:
this is the video you wanna watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L30M6j8Kt-8
this is a ONE CLICK PERMANENT ROOT Tool http://androidandme.com/2011/10/hacks/how-to-root-the-htc-amaze-4g/
this is step by step rooting MUCH BETTER http://theunlockr.com/2012/05/01/how-to-root-htc-amaze-4g/
Here you go let me google that for you
NOW hit THANKS BUTTON
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That one click does not work. It only works on GB 1.36. The exploit was fixed in 1.43 GB and newer.
Hey guys new to the site and Im really wanting to root my amaze, enough jacking I came to this thread because I wanted to know the same thing....
BACK2BEAN said:
Hey guys new to the site and Im really wanting to root my amaze, enough jacking I came to this thread because I wanted to know the same thing....
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Use hasoon's tool, read the basics post in my signature for step by step guidance.
Thanks nightmare, I have been skimming through the site for the past few days and your name is one that keeps coming up!! now if I only knew how to hit the THANKS BUTTON
I need a life huh? Lol I know I know, I'm working on it, when school starts I won't be as active but I won't disappear either, we were all noobs at some point in time.
Lost root with the latest update from htc that fixed Google Wallet. Anyone else?
I only want to root to have tethering but I don't want to flash custom roms.
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rule of thumb is to never accept an ota if you want root
I wasn't planning on rooting when I accepted the update but now I do lol. Does anyone know how to root it after the update or at least when it will be made available?
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Ed.V said:
I wasn't planning on rooting when I accepted the update but now I do lol. Does anyone know how to root it after the update or at least when it will be made available?
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You never accept an update If you are rooted or ever plan to root.
You cannot gain s-off with the newest update, but can still do HTC dev
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Thankfully, with HTC Dev, we'll pretty much always have the option of rooting regardless of update.
Yes, but I believe with the new hboot 1.15 there's no more flashing kernals, radios, or splash screens........ouch
My EVO Ways
the only thing u cant do if u took the update is u cant get s-off at this time.. u can still use all the other root tools... :good:
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Yes, but I believe with the new hboot 1.15 there's no more flashing kernals, radios, or splash screens........ouch
My EVO Ways
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Radios and splash screens.. oh well. Not a big deal.
And kernels.. well, my views on kernels aren't popular so I will keep them to myself.
I really dont care to have S-OFF. I just want root access for tethering. I had the Old Evo 4G and I spent hours and days flashing roms and it was addictive! I just dont want to teak this LTE. To me ICS is working fine and I dont want to be hooked again of flashing, Nand backups and such.
I just want a safe way to re gain root, for Tethering. again I dont care about Bootloader or S-OFF.
Any input will be appreciated.
I made a topic on why you root and it got closed.. same reasoning I'm hearing about is why I wanted people to fully be aware this isn't the evo og and rooting could be bad this time
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Question guys, you can use HTC Dev for the Evo but you won't get S-OFF, what does that mean.
Can I still flash Radios, Modems, and can I tweak with msl reader like the old EVO.
Also has anyone found a root method post Google Wallet Update from July 11th. I decided to update because I was not rooted yet, but now I want to root.
Aw man, I'm a new member at xda, just got on the forums when I got my EVO LTE. I've been trying to lurk and read up but unfortunately never came across somebody saying I shouldn't accept OTAs... I was gonna wait until cm9 or aokp got a bit more stable to root and flash. What have I lost the ability to do by accepting this update?
Edit: nevermind, looks like I'll have to wait until root methods are updated, and possibly wait for another s-off exploit if if comes. Can't flash radios or kernels... Damn...
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Aw man, I'm a new member at xda, just got on the forums when I got my EVO LTE. I've been trying to lurk and read up but unfortunately never came across somebody saying I shouldn't accept OTAs... I was gonna wait until cm9 or aokp got a bit more stable to root and flash. What have I lost the ability to do by accepting this update?
Edit: nevermind, looks like I'll have to wait until root methods are updated, and possibly wait for another s-off exploit if if comes. Can't flash radios or kernels... Damn...
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I'd imagine that it won't be long before someone comes out with an updated root method. Be patient, read and ask questions in the meantime.
If you are S-ON and rooted then you update with the new OTA can you still root the phone again?
I was rooted only and accepted the update. No longer have root access. I saved w voodoo root keeper, but it couldn't restore root after update. Figured that would happen just wanted to try it.
Also after the update, my clock speed only throttles down to 1ghz. Anyone else noticing this? Talk about a battery killer!
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Edit: Scratch that 1ghz thing. Think maybe my widget was freaking out. Seems to be fine now. I was pissed at first too!
First rule of XDA is you don't accept OTA updates for any reason.
Just my 2 cents...I made the mistake with my OG EVO and had to wait for unrEVOked to be updated.
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If you are S-ON and rooted then you update with the new OTA can you still root the phone again?
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You don't accept otas. Period
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Is it possible to use someone else backup 1.31 the previous build when being rooted. I want revert back to the previous build. I'm on the latest update. The reason why i ask this is I want to go back to stock using Ruu.
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Here man....it's a super quick process. Just copied and pasted from another thread....
I took the OTA and I'm rooted again.... It's not even that difficult.
I wanted google wallet and I wanted it bad! So I ran thru the hastle of hacking Google wallet so I could get into settings and clear it. Then HTC re-locked my phone. Ran the RUU, then accepted the OTA.
After you've updated...
Run the HTC unlock. Instructions at HTCdev website.
Then flash TWRP (I used adb fastboot method):
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/98
Once that's installed you can flash supersu via this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1538053
Find: CWM installable ZIP in the OPs sig block (it works fine with TWRP on 1.22 software)
From there I just installed busybox (by Stepen) via the market. Grabbed Titanium Backup, and here I am. Rooted phone with 1.22 stock ROM.
Not all of the old mods work anymore though. My favorite, which was the battery mods, don't work. They don't even come close to working, so make sure you nandroid backup before you start tinkering..
I'm rooted but my phone is acting weird after using the HTC unlock method with the latest update
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I'm about to pick up a replacement phone and I noticed that the RegawMOD root method no longer works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
What's the best root alternative? If there isn't one, I'll just keep the my current rooted phone. The only thing wrong with it is the accelerometer no longer works. I can live with that if it means that I won't be able to easily root the new phone.
Check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730751
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Check bigdaddy619's thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34955957
I had two replacements myself and I followed his guide to the dot... And after root I went ahead and got s-off with dirty racun... Good luck!
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Thanks, guys. I'm so used to being in the ' HTC EVO 4G LTE Original Android Development' forum and never even occurred to me to look in the OTHER Development forum for a root method.
so there is no more one click root on linux?
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No that I know of, only windows...
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What does it mean to the S-OFF and root?
If your s off it doesn't effect you the only way that can change is if you turn it back on by yourself. As for root it shouldn't be a problem I don't think the update will block it as most of us s off are running custom roms anyways
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S-OFF is a security flag to write to any partition on a device. This means system, recovery, hboot, etc. All these partitions are therefore capable of custom firmware. Its the most freedom one can have one flashing custom Roms and other firmware. Root is read and write access to the system partition within a custom or stock ROM. Without root one cannot access the system partition its protected. The benefits of root are far reaching as many apps require the access. Everyone should be rooted to improve functionality of the device but many don't S-OFF as it is a more evolved process to perform as oppose to rooting.
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S-OFF is a security flag to write to any partition on a device. This means system, recovery, hboot, etc. All these partitions are therefore capable of custom firmware. Its the most freedom one can have one flashing custom Roms and other firmware. Root is read and write access to the system partition within a custom or stock ROM. Without root one cannot access the system partition its protected. The benefits of root are far reaching as many apps require the access. Everyone should be rooted to improve functionality of the device but many don't S-OFF as it is a more evolved process to perform as oppose to rooting.
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He asked how the new update will affect people who have s-off and root. Not what they are.
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times_infinity said:
He asked how the new update will affect people who have s-off and root. Not what they are.
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Well it was vague and worded poorly so forgive the overabundance of info there Chet, eh?
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Well it was vague and worded poorly so forgive the overabundance of info there Chet, eh?
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Thank you, at the least this can help someone doing a google search in the future. :good: More information is never a bad thing.
Just for my own benefit, how should I word it better?
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Well it was vague and worded poorly so forgive the overabundance of info there Chet, eh?
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I'm not an expert or developer but any update coming from Verizon will likely have the potential to disable the most current root and S-OFF methods. So if you're already S-OFF, then you should be fine. If you have to get your phone replaced with a non-S-OFF model, you will likely not able to re-root and S-OFF that new device. At least until someone is able to find a new root / S-OFF method.
Just my two cents,
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Just for my own benefit, how should I word it better?
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Its OK these guys understand you I'm obviously the problem I'll just shy away from replying to posts that I don't fully understand in the future, sorry.
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Its OK these guys understand you I'm obviously the problem I'll just shy away from replying to posts that I don't fully understand in the future, sorry.
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I understood it the way you did too.
Breaking up the sentence and having the first part as the thread title and the second part as the post is confusing.
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Its OK these guys understand you I'm obviously the problem I'll just shy away from replying to posts that I don't fully understand in the future, sorry.
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I thought you answered the question. I certaintly was curious what they were. I'm chicken and haven't rooted yet. I had no idea what s off was.
yea, thanks for the explanation.
is it possible to root the phone without doing the S-off thing? is it free? i saw somewhere that you had to pay like $40 for some of the software.
does Voodoo OTA rootkeeper work with the dna?
imaudi5000 said:
yea, thanks for the explanation.
is it possible to root the phone without doing the S-off thing? is it free? i saw somewhere that you had to pay like $40 for some of the software.
does Voodoo OTA rootkeeper work with the dna?
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I don't know what that is but rooting just involves flashing an app called "superuser" that manages different applications' root access. It doesn't cost anything and is incredibly easy to do without doing s-off.
xlxcrossing said:
rooting just involves flashing an app called "superuser" that manages different applications' root access. It doesn't cost anything and is incredibly easy to do without doing s-off.
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I'm pretty sure the root method for the DNA (pretty much all HTC phones) does require s-off and is more involved than just installing and running the superuser app.
Also I wouldn't update to 4.2 it sucks it has blinkfeed which I hate.
imaudi5000 said:
yea, thanks for the explanation.
is it possible to root the phone without doing the S-off thing? is it free? i saw somewhere that you had to pay like $40 for some of the software.
does Voodoo OTA rootkeeper work with the dna?
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Rooting the phone is NOT possible without S-OFF.
Running an app as superuser is NOT the same as having a device rooted. In the simplest terms, a rooted phone means you can access and modify system files. The most common use of rooting is running custom ROMs. There are several good ones for DNA in the development section.
You can currently S-OFF and root your phone with a tool called Moonshine, and it is free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314771
The only rooting I've ever done has involved flashing super user and I didn't know s-off was required. The other day I rooted a phone without doing s-off so I stand corrected.
You don't need to be S off to root but you do need to at least have an unlocked bootloader.
dabomb697 said:
You don't need to be S off to root but you do need to at least have an unlocked bootloader.
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Root has no function without soff
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Dri94 said:
Root has no function without soff
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Hmmmm no. I don't have S off and I have running a custom Rom.