perma temp root method possible? - HTC EVO 3D

Hi guys I was wondering if the permatemp root method was possible through command prompt after performing the S-off procedure. Can this method be used with Roms such as Viper's or not?

jmall1 said:
Hi guys I was wondering if the permatemp root method was possible through command prompt after performing the S-off procedure. Can this method be used with Roms such as Viper's or not?
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read one of the guids on dev. Steps are:
1) s-off
2) recovery
3) root zip
4) backup
5) flash ROM

il Duce said:
read one of the guids on dev. Steps are:
1) s-off
2) recovery
3) root zip
4) backup
5) flash ROM
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Thanks. I got that part. I just wanted to know if the perma temp root overclock method with Setcpu was possible with custom roms such as Viper's. That method allows me to tweak my voltage when it runs at 1728Mhz. At any other voltage my phone freezes up.

jmall1 said:
Thanks. I got that part. I just wanted to know if the perma temp root overclock method with Setcpu was possible with custom roms such as Viper's. That method allows me to tweak my voltage when it runs at 1728Mhz. At any other voltage my phone freezes up.
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Huh? You have s-off and recovery and root, right? All you want to do is change the clock/volt? If so, go to the OC thread and follow instructions. AFAIK that ROM uses netarchy test5 kernel, so I doubt it'll work, but it's worth a shot. It could be that your phone can't handle 1728mhz, no matter the method. Good luck.

il Duce said:
Huh? You have s-off and recovery and root, right? All you want to do is change the clock/volt? If so, go to the OC thread and follow instructions. AFAIK that ROM uses netarchy test5 kernel, so I doubt it'll work, but it's worth a shot. It could be that your phone can't handle 1728mhz, no matter the method. Good luck.
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It runs perfectly fine using the permatemp root method on the stock rom, running at 1320000/1728.

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Do I need S-OFF?

I do not care to use any custom roms at this time, I just want simple root to use titanium backup to freeze some apps and to get free wireless tether, is S-OFF required to just get root? trying to understand this all, all the threads about root seems to be so people can flash custom roms. ex "easy root + s-off", can I just root and leave s-on????
smoody said:
I do not care to use any custom roms at this time, I just want simple root to use titanium backup to freeze some apps and to get free wireless tether, is S-OFF required to just get root? trying to understand this all, all the threads about root seems to be so people can flash custom roms. ex "easy root + s-off", can I just root and leave s-on????
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no you must me s-off to use Super User, which is what you'll need to do with Titanium what you want to do.
Thanks, had the same question!
nosympathy said:
no you must me s-off to use Super User, which is what you'll need to do with Titanium what you want to do.
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You don't need S-off to have root. The initial root method did not give you s-off, but you still had root access.
nosympathy said:
no you must me s-off to use Super User, which is what you'll need to do with Titanium what you want to do.
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no you dont . s-off is for the bootloader for when flashing roms... "S" stands for security mode
I think I rooted my thunderbolt, but how do I run clockwork mod?
thanks for the replies, of course next question is how do I get root access and keep s-on?
kpitao said:
I think I rooted my thunderbolt, but how do I run clockwork mod?
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Flash it from ROM manager.
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-Gilgamesh- said:
You don't need S-off to have root. The initial root method did not give you s-off, but you still had root access.
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marcogiudice said:
no you dont . s-off is for the bootloader for when flashing roms... "S" stands for security mode
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You DO need s-off, the first version of root we released was on out dated and buggy firmware, and only provided r/w to /system. Quite frankly, it was utter **** beyond proof it could be done. It was a first day release, the one we did on day 2 was much better and left you at stock version firmware.
S-on will not allow you to have a custom recovery (clockworkmod) or use custom kernels.
Gilgamesh and marcogiudice are technically right, however you won't be happy using the original root method I released.
Jcase, i do not plan on using custom roms or kernals at this time, I just want to stay stock and have root to freeze bloatware and use wireless tether. My only option is to perform full root as instructed on 3/19?
If possible please advise, would like root and not have to reflash to get back to stock.
smoody said:
Jcase, i do not plan on using custom roms or kernals at this time, I just want to stay stock and have root to freeze bloatware and use wireless tether. My only option is to perform full root as instructed on 3/19?
If possible please advise, would like root and not have to reflash to get back to stock.
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You could go with original root if you want crappy prerelease firmware that turns your phone into junk

[Q] Use of S-off?

Hello all, I've been a long time lurker around here, and I first want to thank all the devs for all their hard work in making this such a great device. In anticipation of a fully working ICS build in the near future, is there anything I need to do before flashing an ICS ROM? I'm currently running CM7 with HBOOT 0.57 with S-On. Do I need to get S-off in order to flash ICS, or can I just flash it as I would any new Gingerbread ROM? Also, what other, if any, benefit is there to obtaining S-off?
you are using CM7 but with S-On? i thought before rooting the phone, we need to s-off the first?
lokodoe said:
you are using CM7 but with S-On? i thought before rooting the phone, we need to s-off the first?
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Rooting does not require to remove security (s-off).
S-off allows you to flash recoveries, hboots, radios via fastboot, which I think is classed as being safer than via recovery.
It also allows you write access to system while android is booted.
lokodoe said:
you are using CM7 but with S-On? i thought before rooting the phone, we need to s-off the first?
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I originally had the old version of Froyo (or was it Eclair?) that came with the phone. This was before an update that made S-on prevent the installation of CWM. Back then, I was able to use the Unrevoked method to root and install clockwork recovery. I can't remember all the details, but needless to say, S-on with HBOOT 0.57 back then did not prevent root, CWM, or the flashing of ROMs, and possibly kernels. I've flashed new CM7 ROMs up to one that was stable and after the gps was fixed, so everything works fine. I believe I'm running CM nightly 184.
This is why I'm wondering if the installation process if different for CM9 than for CM7. I don't know if S-On will interfere with the new version of android.
Edit: Here is the thread for unrevoked that I followed way back when. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788737
DanGeorges said:
Rooting does not require to remove security (s-off).
S-off allows you to flash recoveries, hboots, radios via fastboot, which I think is classed as being safer than via recovery.
It also allows you write access to system while android is booted.
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Sorry for my noobishness, but does this mean I can still flash an ICS ROM through my usual way in recovery? I remember reading somewhere that the flashing process for ICS is slightly different than Gingerbread ROMs. Also, I don't really care about being able to write to the system directory unless that has some advantage that I am unaware of.
Goodbye_Alltel said:
Sorry for my noobishness, but does this mean I can still flash an ICS ROM through my usual way in recovery? I remember reading somewhere that the flashing process for ICS is slightly different than Gingerbread ROMs. Also, I don't really care about being able to write to the system directory unless that has some advantage that I am unaware of.
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Yes - you should be able to flash ICS without s-off.
DanGeorges said:
Yes - you should be able to flash ICS without s-off.
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Alright. Thanks for clearing that up. I'll of course be sure to make a full backup and wipe everything before flashing ICS (I'm holding out until gps and camera are fixed because I use both quite freqently).

[Q] HTCdev bootloader or downgrade to 1.4?

I have a completely stock 3D with hboot 1.5, s-on, software 2.17. I want to gain root access in order to flash custom roms and such.
I saw a walk through on how to do this via HTCdev bootloader. I've also read about downgrading to hboot 1.4 and achieving s-off.
What are the advantages of downgrading to 1.4 and achieving s-off vs. sticking with 1.5 and s-on by using the HTCdev method?
Well fort you want be registered as having messed with your device to prevent a void in your warranty. The others are you can flash without any programs needed to install a kernel also you can flash splash screens. Flashing radios is also a benefit of soff. But soff will allow you to actually brick your device vs having just bootloader unlocked.
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patrao_n said:
Well fort you want be registered as having messed with your device to prevent a void in your warranty. The others are you can flash without any programs needed to install a kernel also you can flash splash screens. Flashing radios is also a benefit of soff. But soff will allow you to actually brick your device vs having just bootloader unlocked.
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So s-off is going to give me more access. Essentially the better option if I'm willing to take the risk?
Everything I've read about downgrading to 1.4 and getting s-off is via Linux... Is there a way to do this from Windows 7 instead?
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
So s-off is going to give me more access. Essentially the better option if I'm willing to take the risk?
Everything I've read about downgrading to 1.4 and getting s-off is via Linux... Is there a way to do this from Windows 7 instead?
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not yet...windows devices will not recognize the eMMC in the device...only linux does it,... which is not hard...just download a usb version of linux...run it from your flash drive and it works just fine....did it with my puter successfully ...and yes it is better...like you said though...IF youre willing to take the risk
wloftus said:
not yet...windows devices will not recognize the eMMC in the device...only linux does it,... which is not hard...just download a usb version of linux...run it from your flash drive and it works just fine....did it with my puter successfully ...and yes it is better...like you said though...IF youre willing to take the risk
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Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
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Keep this in mind... S-off is great but you can fully permabrick your device with s-off, hard to do but it can be done. S-on blows but I'm pretty sure you can fix anything but a hardware failure with the unbrick method.
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
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If I might suggest, take a look at the CD in my signature. There is a guide in post #3. It should help to ease the process a bit.
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wikdNoob said:
Keep this in mind... S-off is great but you can fully permabrick your device with s-off, hard to do but it can be done. S-on blows but I'm pretty sure you can fix anything but a hardware failure with the unbrick method.
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I'm willing to take the risk. I've done a lot of reading and my roommate is familiar with what he's doing.
Now, I just have to wait for him to come home... I'm tired of waiting, I just want it to be done already!
closeone said:
If I might suggest, take a look at the CD in my signature. There is a guide in post #3. It should help to ease the process a bit.
~co~
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Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it.
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
I have a completely stock 3D with hboot 1.5, s-on, software 2.17. I want to gain root access in order to flash custom roms and such.
I saw a walk through on how to do this via HTCdev bootloader. I've also read about downgrading to hboot 1.4 and achieving s-off.
What are the advantages of downgrading to 1.4 and achieving s-off vs. sticking with 1.5 and s-on by using the HTCdev method?
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You don't need to achieve root access to flash ROMs or kernels.....unlocking your bootloader via HTC dev or revolutionary is just fine
My vote to hboot 1.4 S-OFF
mnomaanw said:
You don't need to achieve root access to flash ROMs or kernels.....unlocking your bootloader via HTC dev or revolutionary is just fine
My vote to hboot 1.4 S-OFF
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Since my roommate is doing it for me (his computers and computer knowledge are way more capable than mine) I let him decide which way he was going to do it. We ended up going with the HTC bootloader unlock.
We got it successfully unlocked through the bootloader but it still doesn't have root access. Like, apps that require root won't work and he can't get anything to flash on it. Suggestions?
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Since my roommate is doing it for me (his computers and computer knowledge are way more capable than mine) I let him decide which way he was going to do it. We ended up going with the HTC bootloader unlock.
We got it successfully unlocked through the bootloader but it still doesn't have root access. Like, apps that require root won't work and he can't get anything to flash on it. Suggestions?
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Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
reaper24 said:
Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
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I think he's trying to get a custom recovery on it now (twrp). And he's mentioned something about superuser.
But he seems frustrated like something went wrong :-/
reaper24 said:
Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
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Now he's talking about cwm but doesn't seem to be able to find a file that works.
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Now he's talking about cwm but doesn't seem to be able to find a file that works.
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clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
OR
this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
mnomaanw said:
clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
OR
this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
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Go for the CWM 4.0 never had any issues .. The lateset CWM has funky issues..
mnomaanw said:
clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
OR
this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
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Thank you so much! That is awesome! I really appreciate you getting those all in one place for me.
I finally have root access and am currently running infected rom eternity and am super stoked!
reaper24 - Thank you for your input as well. I got the cwm 4... my roommate just tried to do something by going to one of the newer versions... Whatever it was he was trying to do didn't work and he went back to 4, so I'll definitely be sticking with that for now.
Next order of business... unlocking my friends' phone. She got hers in January (preloaded with hboot1.5 and 2.17). Can't get it to unlock via HTC bootloader unlock. I did read that there is a problem getting the newer ones that shipped with the updated software to unlock. I understand you need the 2.08 RUU. I found an active link and downloaded the file... Now what do I do with the thing?
Where did you find the working ruu I need one. I honestly think you just rename it to pg86img put it on the root of your sd card and hold down vol down and power. Once it loads into bootloafer it will scan the file and ask you if you want to flash it over.
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AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Thank you so much! That is awesome! I really appreciate you getting those all in one place for me.
I finally have root access and am currently running infected rom eternity and am super stoked!
reaper24 - Thank you for your input as well. I got the cwm 4... my roommate just tried to do something by going to one of the newer versions... Whatever it was he was trying to do didn't work and he went back to 4, so I'll definitely be sticking with that for now.
Next order of business... unlocking my friends' phone. She got hers in January (preloaded with hboot1.5 and 2.17). Can't get it to unlock via HTC bootloader unlock. I did read that there is a problem getting the newer ones that shipped with the updated software to unlock. I understand you need the 2.08 RUU. I found an active link and downloaded the file... Now what do I do with the thing?
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If her phone has 2.17 then you can't run the 2.08. You need to run the 2.17 and then you can unlock it. I had to do that too.
For those of you going for the HTC Unlock (vs downgrade) i think maany of your questions & detailed walkthru can be found in the guide in my signature.
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Flash before root?

Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
BUBBYLEE said:
Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
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Yes, you should root before flash....if reversed, you might have to flash again.
I get what your saying kinda. But what I wonder is if I could flash my phone without having to root to get it to do certain things. Would there be a benefit for flashing instead of rooting? Such as would I be able to use custom themes or roms or anything along those lines JUST by flashing? Is there anything I can do by only flashing my Evo 3D?
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is your devise cdma or is it a gsm ethere way you would have to unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery and then you can flash a rom and if you want full nand unlock and s off then you would need to down grade your hboot number as well
My Evo 3D is cdma I believe. And being that I purchased it December 26 I believe that the hboot is the 1.50. So assuming I downgrade and unlock the bootloader all I have to do is flash to use a custom rom? No root?
I believe you will have to root your phone or the flash a rom because your hboot has to be s off for you to flash recovery which would let you flash a rom
I would recommend close ones downgrade iso . 1.5 can only be unlocked using htcs hboot unlock. and to be honest I don't like them knowing what I do with my phone .follow the steps on his guide and you should be able to downgrade to 1.4
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louforgiveno said:
Yes, you should root before flash....if reversed, you might have to flash again.
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its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
mnomaanw said:
its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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Ok so from my understanding of what you said, all i have to do is unlock the bootloader with htcdev.com, then use something called 4ext, then im good to go and can flash roms? Also, once i do this will i be able to intall some kind of screen rotation animation to my evo3d? I would like a nice animation and so would that be possible to do if i follow the above steps? and thank all of you for your help.
@bubbylee,
See the Hboot 1.50 guide in my signature if ur not planning on the Hboot downgrade to 1.40 yet. Lots of details/answers to common questions to help u along.
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BUBBYLEE said:
Ok so from my understanding of what you said, all i have to do is unlock the bootloader with htcdev.com, then use something called 4ext, then im good to go and can flash roms? Also, once i do this will i be able to intall some kind of screen rotation animation to my evo3d? I would like a nice animation and so would that be possible to do if i follow the above steps? and thank all of you for your help.
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Yes you can do everything what hboot 1.4 users can, except flashing radios/firmware.....I still suggest to downgrade the hboot as it makes your phone fully unlocked . Hboot 1.5 needs PC for flashing some stuffs. You cannot flash PG86IMGs without relocking your bootloader if you are on hbooot 1.5 .
For transition effects and anims , there is an app in the play store which works on every phone and every Rom provided your phone Rom is rooted......
NOTE: Unlocking bootloader will void some parts of your warranty...
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
BUBBYLEE said:
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
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Hi there BUBBYLEE. Check out the CD in my signature. That should help you with the downgrade. No installation of Linux required.
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BUBBYLEE said:
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
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Yeah its so easy , try closeone's disc. it a live cd meaning you don't need to install Linux, just insert the disc and Linux will boot up. I downgraded hboot too and I had never used Linux before .
BUBBYLEE said:
Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
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mnomaanw said:
its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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I thought he wanted to "flash" to another carrier LOL.....
@bubbylee obviously ignore my first post, thought you were asking something else.
mnomaanw said:
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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So are you saying that if i flash then install a custom pre rooted rom from here that my phone will be rooted just from flashing a pre rooted rom? Also, I believe I'm going to go the HTC.dev route. Seems simple enough and make little more sense to me.
BUBBYLEE said:
My Evo 3D is cdma I believe. And being that I purchased it December 26 I believe that the hboot is the 1.50. So assuming I downgrade and unlock the bootloader all I have to do is flash to use a custom rom? No root?
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Well in my understanding CDMA doesn't need a SIM card and GSM does. So maybe that'll help you answer the question
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BUBBYLEE said:
So are you saying that if i flash then install a custom pre rooted rom from here that my phone will be rooted just from flashing a pre rooted rom? Also, I believe I'm going to go the HTC.dev route. Seems simple enough and make little more sense to me.
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The HTC dev method gave me problems with the WiMAX so if you don't use or have WiMAX use the HTC dev method. But again Closeone's bootable linux live cd is just as easy as HTC dev and is getting easier. Plus , its better to have s-off since its easier to flash roms (Unless you have 4ext recovery) then you'll be in hboot 1.4 and you could update (using another method so that you don't lose s-off) back to hboot 1.5. . If you want I'll give you links to make you're life easier.
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Jimlarck said:
The HTC dev method gave me problems with the WiMAX so if you don't use or have WiMAX use the HTC dev method. But again Closeone's bootable linux live cd is just as easy as HTC dev and is getting easier. Plus , its better to have s-off since its easier to flash roms (Unless you have 4ext recovery) then you'll be in hboot 1.4 and you could update (using another method so that you don't lose s-off) back to hboot 1.5. . If you want I'll give you links to make you're life easier.
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Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
BUBBYLEE said:
Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
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If you've decided to use the downgrade method, step-by-step instructions are in post #3 of the thread in my signature. If you need any help, you're welcome to post in the thread.
It's not as scary as it looks, but it's something where you'll have to follow directions carefully.
~co~
BUBBYLEE said:
Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
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Ok, I'll be online and constantly checking the thread so if any questions post here. And use Closeone's cd, Highly recommended
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What do I need for root?

Hi guys!
I read the forum, then read some more. And then read sticky topics and other links....
... and I'm totally confused now!
I want to root the phone, so I can manipulate the memory of it. That's it. I don't want to lock, unlock, S-off, flash or whatever the term it is for whatever action.
Is there a glossary on those terms, readable by a human being?
What I need is the Game CIH to work, so I can get more money/coins/lives/whatever in my games.
For that, I need the phone rooted.
And there we have it Now you know what I need, so if there's someone that can tell me 'go follow THIS tutorial' or 'read here', I would be very grateful!
This is most likely already poking my eyes out, but I have no idea what ROM flashing is, nor why would I want S-OFF instead of S-ON....
Help!
AW: What do I need for root?
If u only want root you dont need s-off
S-off gives you the ability to flash everything, even another bootloader
but if you dont even have an idea about that, better stay away from that
Heres a list of those terms :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Glossary
Do u have a GSM or cdma phone?
This guide is for GSM, the part of unlocking+root should be the same for cdma , but if you are cdma better wait for another cdma user just to make sure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
A+B
You need to unlock your bootloader to flash superuser^^
Thank you! That was quick
I wish there were more people like you, Quantenhall
Only one thing confused me, though...
Quantenhall said:
If u only want root you dont need s-off
S-off gives you the ability to flash everything, even another bootloader
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Quantenhall said:
You need to unlock your bootloader to flash superuser^^
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You said root does not need s-off, but superuser does.
I was under the impression root = superuser
I suck at Linux, so don't curse me
AW: What do I need for root?
extremko said:
Thank you! That was quick
I wish there were more people like you, Quantenhall
Only one thing confused me, though...
You said root does not need s-off, but superuser does.
I was under the impression root = superuser
I suck at Linux, so don't curse me
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No, i said you need an unlocked bootloader
That is not the same as s-off
S-off is only needed if you want to flash aosp roms one day
Just follow the instructions of the second link (a+b) and you will have root access
But make a backup first
Conclusion:
1 backup (adb , there are tools for that, i think one was named ultimate backup tool, if you dont find it search for Android 4 backup without root or similar)
2 unlocking bootloader (htcdev, a from link)
3 flash custom recovery(adb , b from link)
4 flash superuser (copy to SD, boot to recovery, install zip from sd)
That should be all for root
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No, i said you need an unlocked bootloader
That is not the same as s-off
S-off is only needed if you want to flash aosp roms one day
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Got it now
Thanks for the explanation
Quantenhall said:
Conclusion:
1 backup (adb , there are tools for that, i think one was named ultimate backup tool, if you dont find it search for Android 4 backup without root or similar)
2 unlocking bootloader (htcdev, a from link)
3 flash custom recovery(adb , b from link)
4 flash superuser (copy to SD, boot to recovery, install zip from sd)
That should be all for root
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I managed to understand the instructions you linked to, but it's good to have a summary just to make sure I did indeed understood everything as I should have
But there's a problem :/
B4. A link to recovery on mediafire is dead :/
And I don't have 10 posts yet, so I can't post in dev forum and ask OP to make an update.
On the other hand, he clearly stated he doesn't read private messages regarding other people problems :/
I'll go if I can be useful somewhere else on the forum and get myself up to 10 posts
Any recovery made for your phone should work. I would recommend 4EXT Touch Recovery. I uploaded it here for you http://www.mediafire.com/?702ttkdggk69g3i so just unzip it and use the recovery.img as the instructions imply.
Do note that I downloaded this recovery via their app I downloaded from 4ext.net using an Evo 3D CDMA phone. I do know 4EXT works with both CDMA and GSM phones but I can't be certain if they use different recovery.img files.
Thank you all!
I successfully rooted the phone, thanks to you!
Actually, not only you, mostly the guy who wrote the crazy good tutorial!
But without you my mojo wouldn't be enough to make it through
I unlocked the bootloader via htcdev.com, then flashed recovery image and finally ran superuser.apk.
I'm in the process of restoring all my data back to the phone at the moment, and this should be it I guess
Thank you so much for your help, going through the process once really put all the pieces together for me.
Now I really know what some terms actually mean
So... if I would like to install different OS (CWM, CM...), it's much easier now, right?
I should go to recovery and say "install from a file" and select my new OS?
I think so... but nevermind, I'm done with the questions. You've both been more than helpful already
P.S.
Oh so many smilies... can you tell I'm happy?

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