So, i am making a ROM and i cant seem to get the sense off and replace it with a launcher that i have. I cant figure it out, could you help, sorry!
Not 100% here but I don't believe sense is completely removable. I've always been told its worked into the framework so deep removing it would cause a lot of things to go horribly wrong
Oh? Your iPhone doesn't have 3d?
Well at least change the launcher defaults so right off, it boots to a different launcher.
Remove "Rosie.apk" and replace with launcher of choice.
When removing the Rosie.apk aka HTC Launcher, you should remove the widgets as well since they aren't compatible with other launchers.
rtbluver said:
So, i am making a ROM and i cant seem to get the sense off and replace it with a launcher that i have. I cant figure it out, could you help, sorry!
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Take a look at my Sensless ROM. I have stripped it as far as I could to get rid of Sense.
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So I have fallen in love with the simplicity of Zeam as a launcher replacement. But what I would like to know is if it's possible to completely replace the stock launcher with zeam? If so what files would I need to delete from the /system/app folder or would they be in the framework?
zakth said:
So I have fallen in love with the simplicity of Zeam as a launcher replacement. But what I would like to know is if it's possible to completely replace the stock launcher with zeam? If so what files would I need to delete from the /system/app folder or would they be in the framework?
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I Would Imagine You Need To Put The Launchers APK In /system/app
Just An Educated Guess.
Not a good idea. I did something simlar to this with my original Droid. Here's the thing. If your replacement launcher gets screwed up, or if you uninstall it, you have no way to do anything; such as get into a file manager to reinstall the stock launcher. It's not hurting anything sitting in the background.
What would be the difference from what you are experiencing now to deleting the stock launcher. Just a sense of cleanliness, know it's not there?
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Not a good idea. I did something simlar to this with my original Droid. Here's the thing. If your replacement launcher gets screwed up, or if you uninstall it, you have no way to do anything; such as get into a file manager to reinstall the stock launcher. It's not hurting anything sitting in the background.
What would be the difference from what you are experiencing now to deleting the stock launcher. Just a sense of cleanliness, know it's not there?
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You're Absolutely Right, Deleting The Stock Launcher Is A Bad Idea. I Was Just Giving You The Way To Put It On The "System" So To Speak.
With all the people out there interested in getting rid of the sense features on their phone and going full aosp.
I think it would be cool to strip down a sense rom and replace the sense features with mock sense applications. I for one know that you can get a mock sense 3.0 lockscreen and you can make your home screen look pretty close to sense with some fancy widgets and adw ex launcher. I would like to keep the quick settings bar as well, but strip it down some and add the pull down settings like aosp, but keep the task manager thingy. That's pretty cool to me.
Anyone up to the task of putting that one together?
There's already two I think like that, but suggest it in the appropriate ROM threads where the devs ask for ideas.
EDIT: Yea senseless and supra I think has what your looking for.
phatmanxxl said:
There's already two I think like that, but suggest it in the appropriate ROM threads where the devs ask for ideas.
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Thank You. Will do.
So you want to take the sense applications out of sense and replace them with applications that aren't sense but look like sense?
Dialer one can be made to look a lot like the sense dialer, and with a lot more options and customization.
SolsticeZero said:
So you want to take the sense applications out of sense and replace them with applications that aren't sense but look like sense?
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Just a random idea. I've seen others do it with the EVO 4g. Supposedly makes it faster. I'd like to see it. That's all.
I was just wondering, coz my wife has a Motorola Photon 4G, I saw that you can use the Blur widgets on ADW EX or basically any launcher, (social media, messaging, weather tc.) and I want to use ADW EX on my phone but I cant use the HTC widgets. So the question is,
* Is there a way to install Blur widgets on the EVO3D if so, how?
* Is there a way to use the Sense widgets without the sense launcher?
let me know guys! thanks
angelocua26 said:
I was just wondering, coz my wife has a Motorola Photon 4G, I saw that you can use the Blur widgets on ADW EX or basically any launcher, (social media, messaging, weather tc.) and I want to use ADW EX on my phone but I cant use the HTC widgets. So the question is,
* Is there a way to install Blur widgets on the EVO3D if so, how?
* Is there a way to use the Sense widgets without the sense launcher?
let me know guys! thanks
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Install Blur widgets on the EVO 3D. Widgets are packaged the same as applications, in .apk files. .apk files are basically just a wrapper like a .zip is a wrapper.
If they are compatible, you should be able to install the blur widgets the same way you would install any other application on the EVO 3D.
It does surprise me the moto blur widgets work in other launchers, that is impressive on behalf of moto putting the extra time/code in to make them compatible with other launchers.
I don't think there is anyway to use sense widgets w/o the sense launcher...at least I haven't seen anything posted. I think the sense widgets use sense launcher/framework files. Perhaps they could be portable? But not sure how difficult/time consuming the process would be.
Hope that helps point in the right direction!
Yeah, I tried extracting them and installing the apks as if theyre just regular apps, but its just giving me errors, also tried adding them to root system/apps folder, it shows that theyre installed but when you add widgets, its not there. I dont know much about this type of things. any ideas? i think you have to edit or maybe add something else here.
Pretty sure you need the blur framework in order to run any blur widgets. So, without a blur port I doubt it's possible.
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angelocua26 said:
Yeah, I tried extracting them and installing the apks as if theyre just regular apps, but its just giving me errors, also tried adding them to root system/apps folder, it shows that theyre installed but when you add widgets, its not there. I dont know much about this type of things. any ideas? i think you have to edit or maybe add something else here.
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What errors do you receive? Can you copy/paste/type up here or copy/paste/type up into pastebin.com and link?
Senorkabob said:
Pretty sure you need the blur framework in order to run any blur widgets. So, without a blur port I doubt it's possible.
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This is definitely how the HTC widgets work and wouldn't surprise me if the moto blur widgets worked the same. If their framework files were separate from the system framework files, it would be easier to port but if they combine their framework files with the android framework files it will take much longer to sort out which is moto and which is android ...
Let us know what type of errors you're receiving. My gut feeling says they aren't, but *maybe* they are something simple! Hope that makes sense and helps!
Is there any way to disable Sense if I'm using Nova or another 3rd-party launcher? I still have Sense running in the background eating up resources even though I'm not using it... ugh.
No sir.... Best bet is to flash the somesense Rom and use a custom launcher. The only other way to do it is through an aosp Rom. Currently we have a pretty smooth cm9 in the dev section, but it doesn't have a few vital things working yet
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That sucks, but thanks very much for the info
darkfire23 said:
Is there any way to disable Sense if I'm using Nova or another 3rd-party launcher? I still have Sense running in the background eating up resources even though I'm not using it... ugh.
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You can freeze our uninstall the sense launcher along with any apps/widgets you don't use if you have a third party launcher installed. I've done this. I wouldn't go uninstalling things without knowing what it is first.
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That requires root I assume?
Yes and a lot of research as you might disable a vital component on accident and then you have to really flash a new Rom.
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darkfire23 said:
That requires root I assume?
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Yes, to freeze sense and other widgets u need to root. Wish u didn't. Hate having to give up twc tv on phone and renting movies thru google play. But I guess torrents and better multitasking will make up for it...
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As stated above, you must be rooted to do this stuff, but in case you wanted to know...
I uninstalled just about every sense element I could find in TitaniumBackup and use Apex launcher in place of the stock one. Interestingly, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the stock ICS lockscreen popped up after uninstalling the sense lockscreen, so I don't have to run any 3rd party LS app. Also I have uninstalled the stock browser and clock, replacing them with the apks I pulled from CM9, mostly because I like the look and feel a little better, but also sense alarm wouldn't display on the ICS LS--CM9 alarm does. I had the CM9 message app on my LTE also, but found I was unable to send or receive MMS. I didn't really investigate too much further to try to get it working and I don't know if it is even possible. EX Dialer offers a more appealing phone app than does the sense version as far as I'm concerned.
There are ways to make your phone look differently, but as you said sense eats up the background, and I feel the CM9 apps run a little lighter. I enjoy a much better experience without the Sense stuff as it feels a little closer to AOSP now.
Good luck should you decide to try some of the suggestions, and remember, always always have a backup.
How did you remove the location icon?
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No sir.... Best bet is to flash the somesense Rom and use a custom launcher. The only other way to do it is through an aosp Rom. Currently we have a pretty smooth cm9 in the dev section, but it doesn't have a few vital things working yet
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What kind of vital things? Is it stable enought to use as a daily?
The part of sense that is still running is the 35MB shell or so of basic sense functionality throughout the whole phone.
You're not able to get rid of that, but if you use another launcher you already not loading up the launcher portion of sense. If you used the sense launcher, you'd see Sense go up to over 100MB, since the basic sense of 35 + the launcher of about 70 something will kick you over 100MB. So the fact that it still sits in the 30s shows you're not using the launcher, but Apex or Nova or whatever is probably taking up 50-70MB itself.
Right, so really no win unless you root and disable... thanks for the input all.
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Thanks for your post. I like AOSP so much better, and hadn't even thought of removing htclockscreen and also using click and browser. Gonna give it a shot. Can't wait til we get AOKP functional.
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Is there a mod that would let me just have one homescreen when using Sense as my launcher?
I know I can do it with other launchers like Launcher Pro (which I have used 99% of the time on my OG Evo). I've seen mods/tweaks that let you change the # of homescreens but the minimum I've seen is 3.
I really prefer having just one homescreen and I'd like to see that happen in Sense. I've been poking and searching around but I haven't stumbled on anything yet.
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Is there a mod that would let me just have one homescreen when using Sense as my launcher?
I know I can do it with other launchers like Launcher Pro (which I have used 99% of the time on my OG Evo). I've seen mods/tweaks that let you change the # of homescreens but the minimum I've seen is 3.
I really prefer having just one homescreen and I'd like to see that happen in Sense. I've been poking and searching around but I haven't stumbled on anything yet.
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If you press home button again from the main screen to the view with all your screens, you can hold down each and drag it up to the X and remove them.
I feel like such a noob haha. Ok down to one homescreen now, but can I disable the scrolling? It doesn't make sense (lol) to be able to scroll the screen to the same homescreen over and over.
deathsled said:
I feel like such a noob haha. Ok down to one homescreen now, but can I disable the scrolling? It doesn't make sense (lol) to be able to scroll the screen to the same homescreen over and over.
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Don't know how/if you can do that.
Mikeys rom has the spinning top mode removed. Isnt there an option in leedroid tweaks to disable it? Havent used sense in a long ass time so i dont remember. There should be other roms with it removed.
leedroid tweeks does not appear to have any settings like this.
What rom you using?
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What rom you using?
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MidnightRom 1.2.7
I'm actually on an Evo V with Virgin Mobile, but it's the same phone as the 3D.
It's weird that I'm even trying to do this. I WAS using LauncherPro which has always been my preferred launcher. I'm not sure if it's a problem with this rom when using LP or what, but I've noticed that frequently enough when I would return to the homescreen from an app that there would be a black bar the size of the status bar right underneath the status bar, like blank space. It would stay there until I did something like go to the app drawer and then return home.
It doesn't seem to occur when using Sense, so I'm seeing if I can tweak Sense to my liking.
Same deal for me using LP.
It hasn't been updated since March. Hopefully it hasn't been abandoned.
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Oh well it's at least good to know it's not just happening to me. I thought maybe there was something off in this rom that might be causing the problem, but looks like it could be an issue with LP if you experience it too.
Try adw. I personally recommend nova or apex though. Lp was my go to when i had a hero. Havent used lp in almost a year now.
Yeah it's a LP bug. Does it real bad if you use the google search widgit. I've tried every launcher out there, and LP is still my favorite. So, hopefully it will get an update.
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