I'm sure this is question that I SHOULD know the answer to, but I don't so I'm hoping someone can help me.
It's a question regarding streaming data usage. I'm a Spotify user and I just wondered how much data it will use streaming my music over a 3G/mobile data connection.
I have a 100mb limit with O2.... will it get nowhere near that, even with heavy use... or do I have to be really careful?
Is there a figure like '30 mins music = 30mb'?
Thanks in advance guys. Sorry if it's a bit of an idiotic question.
Not 100% sure about Spotify but i played a few mixes (just a few mins of each mix) on Soundcloud and in about 15 mins it used up about 130MB thankfully my carrier Meteor have a special promotion on top up €20 and get 1GB of Internet free which was a relief or id have been charged a fortune as usually i only get 50MB for 69C a day and if you go over that you pay,im in England at present and use Giff Gaff so have unlimited data which is great, if i were you id keep a very close eye on your usuage if you only get 100MB (i assume that's daily and not monthly)
It uses quite a bit actually, I got text messages from my operator a day or two after changing operator that I had used 90% of my cap (1GB), after foolishly syncing while at work (using 3G). After that I make sure I'm synced via WiFi when at home instead. Also got a traffic monitoring widget to keep track.
Ok cheers guys.
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Have any of you seen your usage spike pretty heavy using this atrix? I've been on wifi 95 percent of the time i've used this phone, and 90 percent of that was my home wifi. The other 5 was at an AT&T hotspot at the airport, but I was told that was separate from my 2gb datapro plan. At home on my wifi I use the pants off of it, because i'm not being billed by AT&T (youtube, market, TI backups, etc) and at the AT&T hotspot I only did very light web browsing for ~30 minutes. My usage for cell data is sitting right around 375mb since 2-24 (bill cycle date) and there is simply no way i've used that much cell data. A call to AT&T got me the response that "you've sent a LOT MMS messages", but i told the guy at a max of 300KB per message i'd had to have sent a TON, and my understanding was that all messaging data throughput came from the arm and leg i'm using to pay the messaging unlimited plan, NOT the Datapro side. I haven't tethered (although I have added the tetherhack APN settings) nor have gremlins invaded my bedroom in the middle of the night looking to pull down 242 megs..Looking online I see this:
03/01 02:31 AM wap.cingular Internet/MEdia Net Sent 242921KB.....
That's the bulk of it. There were some other transfers in the 10s of megs during the dead of night, but this was unattended cell usage again, and i'll reiterate i'm on wifi whenever i'm home.
How out of the ordinary is that compared to what you're seeing?
Full disclosure-I have probably used 20-40 megs with of cell data (texted based mobile web, email, small apps) and that usage pattern is corroborated by the remainder of my unbilled usage. This is primarily regarding the heavy overnight usage seen.
rx7freak said:
Have any of you seen your usage spike pretty heavy using this atrix? I've been on wifi 95 percent of the time i've used this phone, and 90 percent of that was my home wifi. The other 5 was at an AT&T hotspot at the airport, but I was told that was separate from my 2gb datapro plan. At home on my wifi I use the pants off of it, because i'm not being billed by AT&T (youtube, market, TI backups, etc) and at the AT&T hotspot I only did very light web browsing for ~30 minutes. My usage for cell data is sitting right around 375mb since 2-24 (bill cycle date) and there is simply no way i've used that much cell data. A call to AT&T got me the response that "you've sent a LOT MMS messages", but i told the guy at a max of 300KB per message i'd had to have sent a TON, and my understanding was that all messaging data throughput came from the arm and leg i'm using to pay the messaging unlimited plan, NOT the Datapro side. I haven't tethered (although I have added the tetherhack APN settings) nor have gremlins invaded my bedroom in the middle of the night looking to pull down 242 megs..Looking online I see this:
03/01 02:31 AM wap.cingular Internet/MEdia Net Sent 242921KB.....
That's the bulk of it. There were some other transfers in the 10s of megs during the dead of night, but this was unattended cell usage again, and i'll reiterate i'm on wifi whenever i'm home.
How out of the ordinary is that compared to what you're seeing?
Full disclosure-I have probably used 20-40 megs with of cell data (texted based mobile web, email, small apps) and that usage pattern is corroborated by the remainder of my unbilled usage. This is primarily regarding the heavy overnight usage seen.
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For them to claim it was from MMS is just obsurd... I dont see how thats possible... I text heavily - around 5k texts a month, but its covered by unlimited texting... I rarely go over 400mb of data - but i use it alot.... From what you described, something strange IS going on - id call AT&T back and demand a supervisor, and keep working up the chain until you figure it out or have broken your foot off in someone's @$$
Coming from an N1 with the unlimited plan I never watched/had to watch my usage before, but now that I have to I am like a hawk. Nobody at AT&T seems to know why; they've offered to get me with the handset repair folks, but when I tell them that these xmitted packets must come from somewhere and go somewhere (in or out) that it doesn't just "happen." It's not like I'm wasting a period of dialup. Unfortunately I woke up to a dead phone this morning so I couldn't see if something was pegged in the battery usage log.
Thanks for the reply, I'll keep at 'em.
Out of curiosity are you running:
Latitude
Facebook (how often does it refresh?)
Twitter (again, how often does it refresh? Syncing contacts?)
Social Messaging on MotoBlur
Google Reader
Google Books
Exchange Push Email
Google Voice
Any other MotoBlur accounts
Sync Contacts with Google
Android Market
Or any other app that syncs with the cloud
My point is, Android syncs WAY MORE data than any other OS. It is tied to cloud services at its very core. Everything we do with these phones use data. If you run one or more of any of these apps you will use a lot more data than the iPhone or other phones do.
Also, for those seeing late night data, all of these items check throughout the night. And if you have many of them running, you will have lots of data sycing through the night.
Try Settings/Data Manager/Data Delivery/Social Applications/Sync over Wifi Only
And see if you still have lots of data used at night
Also when the screen goes off so does wifi unless you set it to never disconnect. Meaning nightime data.
snlu178 said:
Out of curiosity are you running:
Latitude
Facebook (how often does it refresh?)
Twitter (again, how often does it refresh? Syncing contacts?)
Social Messaging on MotoBlur
Google Reader
Google Books
Exchange Push Email
Google Voice
Any other MotoBlur accounts
Sync Contacts with Google
Android Market
Or any other app that syncs with the cloud
My point is, Android syncs WAY MORE data than any other OS. It is tied to cloud services at its very core. Everything we do with these phones use data. If you run one or more of any of these apps you will use a lot more data than the iPhone or other phones do.
Also, for those seeing late night data, all of these items check throughout the night. And if you have many of them running, you will have lots of data sycing through the night.
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I get your point about everything being tied to cloud services, but 242MB for anything OTA is a bunch, short of several firmware updates in a row (that line I posted from my online account manager is for one session only, I've continued to have a few others in the 10s of MBs that night and ongoing since my OP) is a bit excessive. I have around 40 contacts, about 8 have photos that sync from google, another 10 have facebook sync photos...there's no way my contact list or any other text only sync application would rack up that much usage. And these are times when I'm home, usually asleep, and have fallen asleep with wifi on.
I will change the sync settings to wifi only to see if there is any change, thank you for the suggestion Deminjeans.
I did not know I lost my wifi connection when the phone went into standby. I'll set it to stay connected. Thank you snlu178.
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Hi,i'm a xperia mini pro user and i have been getting high bill for alternating month and i would like to ask some advice from the community.I'm not a plan user or anything,so i don't have data plan for my mobile.At home i always leave my data background traffic on(with auto sync),wi-fi on and data roaming is always off.When i'm outside i turn off my background data traffic,wifi and data roaming.So can anyone help me what is the reason for me on getting this high bills.I've also install this app call "my data manager" to keep track of my data usage but it show 0 on mb usage of my data.So please help me and thank you.
My bill is arround 90 to 100 for november
October was 20.
September was 98.
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Hi,i'm a xperia mini pro user and i have been getting high bill for alternating month and i would like to ask some advice from the community.I'm not a plan user or anything,so i don't have data plan for my mobile.At home i always leave my data background traffic on(with auto sync),wi-fi on and data roaming is always off.When i'm outside i turn off my background data traffic,wifi and data roaming.So can anyone help me what is the reason for me on getting this high bills.I've also install this app call "my data manager" to keep track of my data usage but it show 0 on mb usage of my data.So please help me and thank you.
My bill is arround 90 to 100 for november
October was 20.
September was 98.
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Turn off data transfer off.
By data transfer if you mean background data traffic and data roaming or data enable yes those are off when i'm out side by still manage to get this high bills
have you tried checking the summary of your bill? usually maxis will lay it all out which charges have gone through during the entire duration of the billing period, from there you'll know why go are being billed over your average billing during the past months
check your message delivery report settings:
open messages, menu->settings
i know some operators charge if you have this option enabled, meaning u r sending texts which is going from ur allowance but DR is charged even though u might not be receiving !!!
i have check my bill and under usage charge section it's almost RM94.iphysal i have check the delivery report and no i have not enable it.By the way can i ask something,do i get charge if data background traffic is on when i'm using wi-fi.TY
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Ok one more thing i forgot to say my facebook inside xperia is always on even though when i'm outside does that somehow affect my bill.TY
you should try and install 3g watch dog and juice defender.
it help me alot to manage data traffic.
Easy: if you don't have a data plan, keep mobile data turned OFF. They charge an arm and a leg per MB, typically. If you need to look up something urgently while on the road, just turn data on for a moment.
On the other hand, if you can't live without, e.g., your hourly fix of facebook updates even when you're otside, then get a data plan. Seriously.
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thank you all for advice i will post again by this month end ty again
Also when youre done browsing facebook app..hit sign out coz it will keep updating if you just close it and not sign out.
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Hello all,
I have a amaze for a while now that I recently (about 2 months ago) installed 3g watch dog to monitor the data I use thru out the month.
I noticed that over the last 19 days that the "phone" with sub catagories of phone, dialer storage, SIM toolkit program used about 115 mb of data.
Over the last hour has used about 470kb and have not even used the phone at all.
While right now I have a 5gb plan (that I have gone over a few times with) and is not a problem now if I go to a 200 mb plan to save money that would be over half the months useage.
Currently I am completely stock with the phone not rooted or even unlocked bootloader or anything.
Does anyone know why that app is using so much data or what may be causeing it?
Any help or insite would be greatly appreciated.
I noticed a handful of people have looked at this with no response, so just wanted to say you're not alone but I have no idea why. Any insight would be great.
I was wondering if using Facebook that's built into the phone/contacts app might be something?
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Use DroidWall!
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Use DroidWall!
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It requires root, the OP isn't rooted.
Looking into this a little more I went so far as turning off background, auto sync, location services, all syncs of contacts and accounts, update polling for the phone OS.
And has jumped over 2 mb in a hour with no phone use.
Not sure if there is anything else that could cause that.
Really the only thing that I have seen that stops it is turning off data on the phone completely.
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Looking into this a little more I went so far as turning off background, auto sync, location services, all syncs of contacts and accounts, update polling for the phone OS.
And has jumped over 2 mb in a hour with no phone use.
Not sure if there is anything else that could cause that.
Really the only thing that I have seen that stops it is turning off data on the phone completely.
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The data toggle is a must have.
I've trained myself to tap it before the phone goes down, or I don't require the net.
Eliminates a long list of "issues".
Since I've been using the leaked 4.1 builds I have been burning through Data at an incredible rate, the first month I hit my 2GB monthly allowance after about 3 weeks, which at the time I thought it was just me using it a lot because it was new.
Today however I have been told by my network provider that my 2GB limit for this month was used up in about 4 days!!! After spending most of the day arguing with them they confirmed my phone was connecting every 30-60 seconds & using 200-400mb every time?
After the first month I set all sync options to manual & I don't use Facebook etc. but with Samsung swapping all the settings menu around it seems there are some extra sync options I missed, Maps & latitude, search, location & google all have additional sync settings, so it seems my phone is constantly connecting & logging my location. God knows what else is connecting..
Didn't have this problem with ICS & I don't have a lot of apps installed, probably less than I did then
Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue? if so it's a dream come true for network providers, but they're going to have a lot of pissed off customers!
Did you check your dropbox auto-sync feature? or any cloud storage that MIGHT be uploading your pics? I did notice the data pull but it was while on Wi-Fi, my data counter shows a lot of activity on wifi but not so much for 3G and that is on IDLE.
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Since I've been using the leaked 4.1 builds I have been burning through Data at an incredible rate, the first month I hit my 2GB monthly allowance after about 3 weeks, which at the time I thought it was just me using it a lot because it was new.
Today however I have been told by my network provider that my 2GB limit for this month was used up in about 4 days!!! After spending most of the day arguing with them they confirmed my phone was connecting every 30-60 seconds & using 200-400mb every time?
After the first month I set all sync options to manual & I don't use Facebook etc. but with Samsung swapping all the settings menu around it seems there are some extra sync options I missed, Maps & latitude, search, location & google all have additional sync settings, so it seems my phone is constantly connecting & logging my location. God knows what else is connecting..
Didn't have this problem with ICS & I don't have a lot of apps installed, probably less than I did then
Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue? if so it's a dream come true for network providers, but they're going to have a lot of pissed off customers!
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if your phone was using that much data you would notice the battery on your phone going down pretty fast as well.
Check if you are syncing Google photos. That was at least our problem.
It could be some Apps or something that is constantly downloading or uploading files. Dropbox auto-sync? Or Google plus instant upload?
I average about 70-80 MB per month when i was on android. This month im at 160 MB and i started 10 days into the month.
I suspect that I am using LTE/4G even when there is wifi and it is not switching over. I am able to tell with android because i have the 3G watchdog app. and it alarms me if i get close to my 200MB limit.
Question
1. is it possible to check which data its using wi-fi or LTE when both is available ?
2. Is it possible to limit the LTE/4G to only emails that are less than XX Kb so that it not downloading when im travelling to and from destinatoin
3. is it possible to control which apps can utilize the LTE/4G
FYI, Android can be configured to keep wi-fi on while phone is in sleep (default) but WP7/8 can't. Windows Phone will always turn off wifi whenever your phone screen is off unless you keep it plugged into the charger. There is a rumor that this behavior will be changed to inline with Android in next update. But for now, you just need keep that in mind. If you are at home of anywhere connected with wifi, keep it plugged in is the only way to force the phone use wifi.
There is also an app on the market that can create a fake background transfer job to force the phone keep wifi on. Not sure if it is compatible with WP8 and I forgot the name of the app.
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FYI, Android can be configured to keep wi-fi on while phone is in sleep (default) but WP7/8 can't. Windows Phone will always turn off wifi whenever your phone screen is off unless you keep it plugged into the charger. There is a rumor that this behavior will be changed to inline with Android in next update. But for now, you just need keep that in mind. If you are at home of anywhere connected with wifi, keep it plugged in is the only way to force the phone use wifi.
There is also an app on the market that can create a fake background transfer job to force the phone keep wifi on. Not sure if it is compatible with WP8 and I forgot the name of the app.
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This got me looking at my phone, I had a big jump in data usage the last 24 hours. I had backup set to auto and I think it backed up when I was out and had no access to wifi. I shut off auto backup until I can check into it more.
Hey Guys, is there a decent app which can track data usage, possibly showing what apps use the data?
goixiz said:
I average about 70-80 MB per month when i was on android. This month im at 160 MB and i started 10 days into the month.
I suspect that I am using LTE/4G even when there is wifi and it is not switching over. I am able to tell with android because i have the 3G watchdog app. and it alarms me if i get close to my 200MB limit.
Question
1. is it possible to check which data its using wi-fi or LTE when both is available ?
2. Is it possible to limit the LTE/4G to only emails that are less than XX Kb so that it not downloading when im travelling to and from destinatoin
3. is it possible to control which apps can utilize the LTE/4G
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I feel for ya, but an always connected smartphone on 200mb is tough, don't ya think?