@Supercurio
As the touchpad has the same Wolfson audio chip that's in the Galaxy, is there any chance of porting voodoo sound to a touchpad android build?
Voodoo sound to this day is still the best audio on any portable device;-)
JD;-)
Gonna have to jump on that bandwagon as well. Love Voodoo on my Captivate, love it more on my Transformer.
Come on Supercurio, what do you say?
whats voodoo sound?
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whats voodoo sound?
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Voodoo is an app that links in with a kernel tweak that allows you to get amazing sound out of the on board wolfsen chip. It will make beats audio look stupid
Will pm supercurio today and hopefully get an answer, if any of you are on twitter could you point him to this thread, its @supercurio on twitter I believe
JD
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Yeah that would be great! Android and Voodoo Sound Control If I had the device. Lol.
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Yeah that would be great! Android and Voodoo Sound Control If I had the device. Lol.
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They are getting cheaper now, lots popping up 2nd hand too mate
JD
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http://project-voodoo.org/
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http://project-voodoo.org/
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He wrote on his twitter that he does not have time to learn webos and build for the touchpad, HAS THE DUDE NOT HEARD THAT ANDROID 2.3.5 IS IMMINENT?
I don't have twitter, can someone ask him if he will build for an androidian touchpad with a wolfsen chip? I can't see why not?
JD
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I wouldn't mind having an equalizer bare minimum.
With the sound hack there's too much clipping on the account of too much bass.
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nadcicle said:
I wouldn't mind having an equalizer bare minimum.
With the sound hack there's too much clipping on the account of too much bass.
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Very true, voodoo would enhance it ten fold mate
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Ive asked supercurio on twitter a while ago if he was going to port it over, and he said if the platform became popular enough then it would be a trivial task to port it over . So good news to all.
Hey hey, thanks for your interest!
First some explanations:
Voodoo Sound development is test and measurement driven. It means each configuration I change on the hardware side is first validated (or not) by output signal measurements and/or listening test.
Without a solid methodology, audio hacking is just random changes here and there, often doing nothing and with placebo results instead of real improvements.
A concrete example: Speaker: you can imagine a developer cannot tune speaker response without being able to hear it. It's the same for other aspects even if it can appear less obvious.
There's another
On a technical side, TouchPad uses highest end last generation WolfsonMicro WM8958 with official Wolfson Linux driver.
This driver is based on WM8994 (one of the chip supported by Voodoo Sound) + some code to support WM8958 dsp.
My current code is written to compile against Samsung WM8994 driver which is different from Wolfson's one, so porting it to TouchPad would require some work.
I'm not interested in learning WebOS development but a developer might be able to write an app to control basic features without too much difficulty.
For the Android port, using Voodoo Control or Voodoo Control Plus would not be too much of a problem.
As you can see:
- Kind of pointless without development hardware. Voodoo Sound is all about quality, I prefer no port than a bad quality one.
- Its nowhere to be found in France.
- Porting cost (hardware, time for dev, testing, maintenance and support) but so far I don't identify any valid business model behind it. Voodoo Control Plus not being required for anyone as custom kernel would already have a driver built-in.
I'm sure you want Voodoo Sound, but now you have a glimpse of the challenges.
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I thought it may be trivial. All it needs is the voodoo tweaks to be integrated into the kernel and for his app to correlate Good times
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Voodoo sound is not just a standard patch.
It's manually optimized hardware level hacking for each device supported.
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Voodoo sound is not just a standard patch.
It's manually optimized hardware level hacking for each device supported.
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Thanks for clearing that up, I have edited that post mate. Do you think you could build something for us? I'm sure many people would donate and purchase any apps
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JupiterdroidXDA said:
All I know is your freeking awesome dude, I hope you will work your magic, the touchpad is very popular
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Popular? Hmm ^^ you know how many TouchPad have been sold in total?
Transformer is popular. Yet it represent less than 5% of the "Plus" users, 2% of the "Free" and it's still manufactured and available!
There's a TouchPad bubble that I'm sure
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Popular? Hmm ^^ you know how many TouchPad have been sold in total?
Transformer is popular. Yet it represent less than 5% of the "Plus" users, 2% of the "Free" and it's still manufactured and available!
There's a TouchPad bubble that I'm sure
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Using this as a source
ibtimes.com/articles/201942/20110822/hp-touchpad-slash-price-inventory-best-buy-retailers.htm
It could be near 1 million
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Popular? Hmm ^^ you know how many TouchPad have been sold in total?
Transformer is popular. Yet it represent less than 5% of the "Plus" users, 2% of the "Free" and it's still manufactured and available!
There's a TouchPad bubble that I'm sure
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Lets say 20 percent will use android instead of webos, increasing year on year due to webos death.
If you could get 50 percent of android touchpad users to buy the voodoo app your looking @100,000 as a theoretical estimate. The Android movement will only grow and grow for the TP, and will explode when ICS eventually drops. I'm sure you will get a good return from.this market, so sure I would invest in supercurio enterprises)) lol
JD
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Popular? Hmm ^^ you know how many TouchPad have been sold in total?
Transformer is popular. Yet it represent less than 5% of the "Plus" users, 2% of the "Free" and it's still manufactured and available!
There's a TouchPad bubble that I'm sure
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Don't quote me, as I don't have time to really dig into this, but this is what I recall from various tech blogs and other news sources that I read.
Not sure on the exact numbers, but I recall reading that the TouchPad was potentially the biggest selling tablet yet other than the iPad and iPad 2.
Although Samsung has "shipped" 2 million units of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 the estimate is that they have only sold 10-15% of those shipped units (so 200,000-300,000). On the other hand the TouchPad was supposed to have sold out, completely, of their entire first run (350,000 units).
No way to verify though because no manufacturer other than Apple will quote real "sold" numbers (because when you're looking at 20 Million sold from Apple why have a big press release to say 200,000 sold from Acer, Toshiba, Moto, Samsung, etc.)
This potentially gives the TouchPad the largest user base outside of the Apple walled garden ecosystem.
I'm very sure that the touchpad will rock with ICS and no one @ that time will run webOS, webos is dead Long live Android
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Using this as a source
ibtimes.com/articles/201942/20110822/hp-touchpad-slash-price-inventory-best-buy-retailers.htm
It could be near 1 million
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Lol but you have to think about how many of them know what voodoo sound is?
But just one thing supercurio, when I had my Galaxy Tab 10.1, I listened to music on it before I installed a kernel with voodoo support and thought it was fine, and after I installed it and installed the market app (I actually had no idea what it was at the time), I almost spit my drink out when I first heard the music. The difference was like going from 128k to Flac again Since then I bought the paid version and I even convinced a friend of mine to get it. I would like to thank you VERY much for your work and I appreciate it very much.
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Official Viewsonic set the record straight about "Gtablet Support" or did they?
Was led to a video on youtube caught on ces 2011.
By the sound of the representive there, it seems as viewsonic will no longer support the Gtablet, but there own viewpad 10s tablet which they will sell and support. And as meantioned in the video the Gtablet will be supported and sold by US merchant.
Just thought I give an insight. So please feel free to disscussed further on this topic.
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This was posted on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UobzkW6iV28
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Viewsonic answers and sets the record straight!
Posted by officialviewsonic:
See what happens when I go to CES?!
Glad there's so much discussion about the G-Tablet. Let me try to help resolve some of the confusion...
We now have 4 full-sized tablets we've introduced.
G-Tablet you all know
ViewPad 7 - 7 inch Qualcom Processor running Froyo. 3G and voice ready (integrated SIM)
ViewPad 10 - 10 inch Dual Boot Win 7 / Android 1.6 (soon to be higher)
ViewPad 10S - Tegra II -based Froyo device
First, let me make one thing clear: ALL PRODUCTS HAVE FULL SUPPORT. The G-Tablet has a different support line mainly due to its more retail/end-user distribution. That line is managed by USMerchants, hence our sales rep's comments.
The G-Tablet is not going away. We have an OTA upgrade scheduled for later this week, and are looking at different OS loads on it (hint hint).
Google does not support Google Mobile Services or the Android App Store on any 10" tablet running Froyo. Adobe does not support Flash on any 10" Tegra II Tablet running Froyo.
While we originally were launching the 10S only in Europe and Russia, we are now considering bringing it to the Americas as well.
We have many more Tablets in different configurations and sizes in the works, so you'll continue to see great things from us.
Thank you all for your continued interest and support for our products. I'll keep you updated!
And while Viewsonic will only support the 10s it still will not have the marketplace installed....smh...hrmmmmmm
The device has always been purchased through US Merchants and supported through both entities (when all is said and done). Viewsonic mainly had a hands-off approach to the G all along. This marketing lady sums up what is going on. The G was a stepping stone for them and just to get a place in the market (with less than good results).
Not seeing how much has changed, but since this device has Viewsonic's name on it, they will have to support it. Too much bad press on top of the already bad press would be too much rick for them. Seems only difference is an HDMI port and probably higher price.
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And while Viewsonic will only support the 10s it still will not have the marketplace installed....smh...hrmmmmmm
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Yes and no meantion of flash. Since they stated on their site that it would be by late jan. Will pending certification from adobe that is.
Interesting. Looks identical device.
Your correct they do have that big logo on the rear of our Gtablets. lol So lets see what happens... hopefully they will honor the support and not push us to US merchant.
Yes the price could be higher only b/cus the rep laughed hoping it could be the same price as the Gtablet lol. Also no Tap n tap.
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The device has always been purchased through US Merchants and supported through both entities (when all is said and done). Viewsonic mainly had a hands-off approach to the G all along. This marketing lady sums up what is going on. The G was a stepping stone for them and just to get a place in the market (with less than good results).
Not seeing how much has changed, but since this device has Viewsonic's name on it, they will have to support it. Too much bad press on top of the already bad press would be too much rick for them. Seems only difference is an HDMI port and probably higher price.
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Interesting. Looks identical device.
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These are the specs they are showing us as of late:
Android 2.2 OS
10.1" Capacitive multi-touch
1024x600 Resolution
1GHz, 512MB ROM
512MB RAM
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR (Optional 3G)
Webcam 1.3MP
G-sensor
USB, Micro SD (32GB Max), HDMI, headphone
XDA support
The G tablet will be sold by US Merchants, but the true support comes from XDA and the team of Devs who make this device what it is! This makes me think Gingerbread and Honeycomb will only be brought to the G tab if XDA makes it happen....
So true. I don't really think about Viewsonic anymore when I am using my gTablet. Like others have said, if the dev community here at xda had not stepped up to make these fantastic roms for this tablet I would have returned it to the store long ago.
Any piece of electronics I purchase I buy fully knowing that it will become outdated very quickly. So I will enjoy my gTablet for as long as the guys here at xda cook things up for it. When these guys move onto other great tablets I may purchase one of those at that time.
But until then, I have a great tablet running a great custom rom and I will continue to get great use out of it everyday.
Couldn't agree more.... Roebeet, Gojimi, Rothnic and all the others who have contributed here on XDA made the tablet fast and stable. I say as long as we have them. Im ok with that. I'll just theme them up lol.
This may seem like a dumb question, but do any of these guys have donate paypal accounts or something of that nature? They do all this work on these roms, with many people like myself reaping the benefits without really contributing. I would like to give something back other than my feedback when something works or doesnt work.
That being said, I do not regret my purchase of this device and I did it knowing that xda devs were on it. If viewsonic is smart, they would employ the devs here and keep this piece alive. It really is a good, solid device with good hardware.
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If the support issue turns out this way, it will be the second time I got screwed up by Viewsonic Support. And it will definitely be the last time.
What sort of support from Viewsonic have any of you been accustom to or dependent on for the g-tab?
Your support is right here on XDA.
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This may seem like a dumb question, but do any of these guys have donate paypal accounts or something of that nature? They do all this work on these roms, with many people like myself reaping the benefits without really contributing. I would like to give something back other than my feedback when something works or doesnt work.
That being said, I do not regret my purchase of this device and I did it knowing that xda devs were on it. If viewsonic is smart, they would employ the devs here and keep this piece alive. It really is a good, solid device with good hardware.
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If an developer accepts donation you can see the "Donate to me" button which can be seen in any of their postings above the Avatar (left hand side).
If it was not for Devs here mine would be back in store. In fact if I wanna know if the g-tablet will get updated to honeycomb I don't ask viewsonic rather I tweet bekit, reobeet and company. I have more faith on the guys here at xda then any other company that includes galaxy s carriers and manufacturers.
You guys rock
Agreement
As a newbie to Android I look at the xda site here everyday, sometimes twice just to see what amazing stuff these guys come up with for the gtablet......from a newbie to the guys developing stuff for the trablet that I love......thanks
IMHO... viewsonic adding the xda link to their site was the best think they've done as for the gtablet. Especially for those unaware that we have a dev team enhancing our tablets to a point where we can say wow.
I can't express enough how excited I am about how the devs modified our tablets to work as it should of out of the box.
I for one and I know many will agree that we are NOW happy with our gtablets.
Thanks dev team!
Viewsonic are probably quietly hoping that the devs will fix their 10s when that comes out too!
I'm not too worried about it. All we need is a dump of whatever firmware they end up with on the 10s, and it might be fairly easy to port over. One good thing about the Tegra is APX mode - allows us to take more risks.
Gojimi is working on his Gingerbread rig, Bekit on dealing with cm7, Pershoot and the kernel devs are amazing us with their customized kernels and Rothnic is popping out updates to his mods all the time. Things are alive and well, here.
Heck, we might have an Eve port one day. :O
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IMHO... viewsonic adding the xda link to their site was the best think they've done as for the gtablet. Especially for those unaware that we have a dev team enhancing our tablets to a point where we can say wow.
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On the other hand they will not hesitate to void the warranty of any tablet that has XDA stuff on it.
This is probably a dumb question in the wrong section but are there any reasons outside of something like a locked boot-loader that Android couldn't be compiled to run on the HP touchpad tablet?
I was just wondering the same thing. The CPU is a SnapDragon so the hardware at least has the potential to work...
I would imagine that it would be quite difficult because you would need to build your own kernel and custom version of android.
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I would imagine that it would be quite difficult because you would need to build your own kernel and custom version of android.
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Im not a Developer or anything but I would Assume that we Can wait for a Honeycomb Tablet to come out with Similar specs (I.E Same Processor and Ram) and port a Version of that to the TouchPad. It should work if Running HC 3.2 since it supports different Screen sizes too. I would assume only minor tweaking would be needed. But thats just me Guessing.
Sorry but I was thinking the opposite. I would kill to get WebOS running on my new Moto Photon!
ouchpad
+1 for android on HP ouchpad
http://cnnmoney.mobi/wk_snarticle?a...110818:hp_pc_spinoff:1&category=cnnm_business
especially now since ouchpad is dead
I think this is going to become a much more important question, now that HP is getting out of the consumer hardware business and WebOS is going to become unsupported very soon. I think a dual-core snapdragon would be more that enough to run 2.3, and the aspect ratio (4:3) makes it a lot more attractive to me than the existing 16:10 stable of Honeycomb tablets.
If the source code for Ice Cream Sandwich is released to the public, hopefully this can happen. For now though I hope someone will be interested enough to pick up a cut-rate Touchpad (prices are likely to plummet now that Retailers will be dying to offload them) and attempt to get CM7 on it.
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http://cnnmoney.mobi/wk_snarticle?a...110818:hp_pc_spinoff:1&category=cnnm_business
especially now since ouchpad is dead
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due to LTE:
Samsung Galaxy S II Hercules
Samsung SHV-E120S Galaxy S II LTE
use the modem-less AP8060 that the touchpad uses. they would be the target candidates to port to touchpad. could maybe do boot ->boot like IOS jailbreak where you strap webos to boot android.
Since AP8060 is SOC (all in one) - good chance of this working.
I would put up some cash to see this happen... really would... WebOS is nice.. the Hardware is nice.. but AS IT IS... is as it will be and it just doesnt have enough in it for me to enjoy it. Not enough quality apps.. and what happens when things need updates to make them work properly. call whom ever you want ... no one is there to pick up the phone they have all be WFR by hp lol
I really hope someone can get Android on those Touchpads. The big box retailers are dumping them right now. 16GB for $99.99 and 32GB for $149.99.
i know its not related but since its being sold for 99$im thinking of buying it the only question is that does it run divx movies without converting
id donate $20 towards this
The 16gb in Canada is going for $99....well worth it if a port was possible or in the near future!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/let-the-liquidation-begin-hps-16gb-touchpad-on-sale-for-99/
It was possible with the HD2, with a little effort, Android will become possible!
someone please port android to this device!
What is the over-under on this getting Android? Is it worth a poor man's money?
I'm veerrryyyy interested too! This would be awesome.
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What is the over-under on this getting Android? Is it worth a poor man's money?
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I say its worth the 100....
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I say its worth the 100....
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I would want something with Android... that is my main concern. So, you think that it will get a port?
This may be a thread that makes more sense in headfi.org but since it's related to the SGSNote, might as well tell you guys know.
Reference thread (one of many): http://www.head-fi.org/t/555006/samsung-galaxy-s2-vs-iphone-4
The Samsung Galaxy S had an exceptional Digital to Audio Converter or DAC that was a pleasure for Audiophiles to use.
The iPhone family due to its ultra popularity has multiple external DACs that are audiophile quality and bypass the POS Apple gifted on the iPhone.
But the SGS2, Skyrocket, Note and variants of the SGS2 (family) have been bestowed with a sub par quality Yamaha DAC. Now, if you read the thread, you will see that through PowerAMP and other means, such a bypass through the usb to use with an AMP, it fixes the atrocious headphone socket, but source quality is still poor. No one has as of yet created and most likely will not create a product that is compatible with the SGS2 family to bypass the awful Yamaha's.
So, we're stuck with sub par quality audio... Great. This is the only aspect I regret of selling my iphone 4. I was buying the HRT Streamer II meant for the iPhone, an exceptionally priced dac that bypasses the iphones source component.
My all FLAC/ALAC library and Beyerdynamic DT990's are very angry. There goes my music listening on the go.
Wait for Voodoo sound.
And stop using Flac. 320k mp3 is more than enough. Flac is a placebo.
Anyway. 320k mp3s sound great on my ATH-AD700s
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Wait for Voodoo sound.
And stop using Flac. 320k mp3 is more than enough. Flac is a placebo.
Anyway. 320k mp3s sound great on my ATH-AD700s
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I notice the difference on my External Dac , and I have a crappy Fiio E9. All my mixtapes are 320k mp3s.
I can't wait for Voodoo, it helped get through Samsung's awful deving around the dac, but the yahama it self is still awful.
Voodoo Sound isn't coming, the stuffs it does do not apply in our situation.
We might however be able to pull some better quality out of the YDA165, I did some research on that with the SR, but didn't take it anywhere.
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Voodoo Sound isn't coming, the stuffs it does do not apply in our situation.
We might however be able to pull some better quality out of the YDA165, I did some research on that with the SR, but didn't take it anywhere.
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I wonder if I could remove the surface mounted (I'm guessing) chip from the mobo and install something nice, like a burrbrown. too bad I don't know anything about software to set it up, or if it is even possible to pull this off.
Here's hoping someone tries though.
We probably won't even get Voodoo LOUDER since supercurio doesn't support Skyrocket and other Qualcomm flavors of the GS2.
I'm not an audiophile, but I still find the sound quality disappointing. I guess most people don't realize or pay enough attention to sound reproduction to make Samsung put a better DAC in their recent phones. I'm sure they save money using the Yamaha, but I'd definitely be willing to pay a little bit more for the Wolfson they had in their last generation of phones.
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We probably won't even get Voodoo LOUDER since supercurio doesn't support Skrocket and other Qualcomm flavors of the GS2.
I'm not an audiophile, but I still find the sound quality disappointing. I guess most people don't realize or pay enough attention to sound reproduction to make Samsung put a better DAC in their recent phones. I'm sure they save money using the Yamaha, but I'd definitely be willing to pay a little bit more for the Wolfson they had in their last generation of phones.
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couldn't agree more!
yeap i do agree that samsung is doing a bad.job on that
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yeap i do agree that samsung is doing a bad.job on that
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I agree... The last at&t phone with the good sound DAC chip and supported Voodoo sound was the Samsung Infuse. The skyrocket and note are a no go, at least for right now.
And I thought I expected a lot from a phone...
Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN). This is my first foray into the android world. I wouldn't root it immediately. I need to get a little bit familiar with all the slang and technical terms used around here. I can see though, that a senior member, Condi,is doing a great job. My hats off to him.
True this tablet is not the best. There never will be the best tablet! Not even the so called great iPad and Samsung families don't deserve that title. There is always something lacking, something too low, some features too less....but given all the facilities in this neat tablet like:
SD Card - fine with me...doesn't bother me.
USB Host - a plus point for me!
WiFi - Can't live without it Don't need to be a 100Mbps or something more....highest achievable speed for our OFC is 2 Mbps.
Bluetooth - Won't be using much except for sending few jpeg files rarely) 3G (yay!)
The Design - Cool and stands out a lot in the mad world of tablets. Btw, I am really fed up of all the similar and boring plain looking tablets out there
GPS - I don't exactly know whether it is an AGPS (Assisted GPS) which needs 3G data or the real GPS hardware (not needing data connectivity)
The Size - 9.4' (1280 x 800) is somewhere in the sweet spot for me. Not too big...not too small.
The IR Blaster - the scale tipper in my decision making.
The Sound - Stereo (yay!) if you are thinking the sound is too low....let me say that it is for my personal use...don't intend to use it in parties
The Battery - Long charging time and short Battery life doesn't bother me as I am not living inside a cave. Not traveling much either.
Memory, Processor & Multitasking Performance - Suits me fine...I am not expecting it to perform like a workstation or a Core i7 CPU machine. I will use it mainly for social apps, light browsing, listening to audiobooks/music on my way to and from my office. A little bit of games/entertainment/educational app my wife and my daughter can play/use during weekends.
These are just from my point of view...my two cents...hope i have not offended any samsung/apple fan. Leave comments and share your thoughts please!!
freelancer81 said:
Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN). This is my first foray into the android world. I wouldn't root it immediately. I need to get a little bit familiar with all the slang and technical terms used around here. I can see though, that a senior member, Condi,is doing a great job. My hats off to him.
True this tablet is not the best. There never will be the best tablet! Not even the so called great iPad and Samsung families don't deserve that title. There is always something lacking, something too low, some features too less....but given all the facilities in this neat tablet like:
SD Card - fine with me...doesn't bother me.
USB Host - a plus point for me!
WiFi - Can't live without it Don't need to be a 100Mbps or something more....highest achievable speed for our OFC is 2 Mbps.
Bluetooth - Won't be using much except for sending few jpeg files rarely) 3G (yay!)
The Design - Cool and stands out a lot in the mad world of tablets. Btw, I am really fed up of all the similar and boring plain looking tablets out there
GPS - I don't exactly know whether it is an AGPS (Assisted GPS) which needs 3G data or the real GPS hardware (not needing data connectivity)
The Size - 9.4' (1280 x 800) is somewhere in the sweet spot for me. Not too big...not too small.
The IR Blaster - the scale tipper in my decision making.
The Sound - Stereo (yay!) if you are thinking the sound is too low....let me say that it is for my personal use...don't intend to use it in parties
The Battery - Long charging time and short Battery life doesn't bother me as I am not living inside a cave. Not traveling much either.
Memory, Processor & Multitasking Performance - Suits me fine...I am not expecting it to perform like a workstation or a Core i7 CPU machine. I will use it mainly for social apps, light browsing, listening to audiobooks/music on my way to and from my office. A little bit of games/entertainment/educational app my wife and my daughter can play/use during weekends.
These are just from my point of view...my two cents...hope i have not offended any samsung/apple fan. Leave comments and share your thoughts please!!
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The sony tablet s is getting old and isnt getting updates. Does have a few bugs (Wifi) but it is a great tablet outdated. I would have recommended a newer tablet but it is your choice.
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freelancer81 said:
I wouldn't root it immediately.
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Think about Xperia Tab Z, not Tab S, or XTS, go Tab Z!!!
jumper62 said:
The sony tablet s is getting old and isnt getting updates. Does have a few bugs (Wifi) but it is a great tablet outdated. I would have recommended a newer tablet but it is your choice.
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NerdiX said:
Think about Xperia Tab Z, not Tab S, or XTS, go Tab Z!!!
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Thanks for your concern.
Yeah...I have thought about it too.
But the price is about more than double...
Rs. 19,990 for Sony Tablet S and Rs. 46,990 for Xperia Tab Z
That was too much for me...
I wouldnt recommend the STS to anyone. Or the XTS, you can get much better tablets for teh same money atm.
freelancer81 said:
Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN).
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The Sony Tablet S is a nice tablet. I own four of them, one of them owned since the first week the tablet was released to market and I have had no hardware or software problems with any of them. One of them I use at work in an industrial environment and two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters, so I am sure you can imagine the abuse these tablets receive. All of them are running Android 4.0.3r5a rooted, which has proven to be a fairly stable and trouble-free release of Android. I do not foresee Sony releasing anymore firmware updates for the STS, but then again, my tablets perform well and do what they were specified to do, so are any updates really necessary? No, not in my opinion. So, if you know what the STS can and cannot do, and you feel it will meet your needs, then I say buy it.
I also own a Sony Xperia Tablet Z. The XTZ display-wise and performance-wise is a better tablet than the STS; however, hardware-wise it fails in comparison with the STS when it comes to port access and ruggedness. The XTZ is a dainty tablet, the STS is a manly tablet.
Cat McGowan said:
The Sony Tablet S is a nice tablet. I own four of them, one of them owned since the first week the tablet was released to market and I have had no hardware or software problems with any of them. One of them I use at work in an industrial environment and two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters, so I am sure you can imagine the abuse these tablets receive.
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Hi Cat McGowan!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts....It means a lot with all the hype going on that this STS is costly and have no future since it will not support newer android versions.
You have made me really stand steadfast and want to own it all the more!
I have two laptops, a PC (all Core i7 processors)....if i needed any horse-powered work done, I have those.
The STS will just be a take-a-break device while lazying on the couch or bed with a movie or two and some light entertainments/games or when I am commuting.
I must admire you for owning 4 STSs!!!!!
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All of them are running Android 4.0.3r5a rooted, which has proven to be a fairly stable and trouble-free release of Android.
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Does it support 3G?
From Sony India's website, I see that the one I am about to buy is Android™ 3.2.with WiFi and 3G.
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two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters
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I am yet to reach that stage :laugh: but my daughter is going to be 4 this August. The way she's meddling with my phone, she'll be the absolute owner of the tablet once I buy it.
Ubichinon said:
I wouldnt recommend the STS to anyone. Or the XTS, you can get much better tablets for teh same money atm.
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Yeah...you are right.
But as I have said, the upgrading (to JB) is not an issue with me. I believe it gives me all I want plus something which is rare on other devices - the IR Blaster feature. Maybe Samsung has got it in the new devices but they costs too much.
For me, though it may be an average device with average component/hardware with average performance with no future support/update/upgrade, it has all that I need in one neat package.
Thanks for your concern though....cheers!!!
so so sad....
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
freelancer81 said:
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
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What is the highest price you would pay for a tablet?, I found a few.
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andyabc said:
I found a few.
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I did some googling...and I have narrowed my search down to either:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 or Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (P5220)...what do you say to these?
Anyway, I would gladly go up to $620 USD provided it has 3G + WiFi + Infrared + expandable memory (SD or MicroSD)
eagerly waiting to hear from you.
thanks again for your concern:good:
freelancer81 said:
I did some googling...and I have narrowed my search down to either:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 or Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (P5220)...what do you say to these?
Anyway, I would gladly go up to $620 USD provided it has 3G + WiFi + Infrared + expandable memory (SD or MicroSD)
eagerly waiting to hear from you.
thanks again for your concern:good:
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Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 since it is the latest.
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I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
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I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
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The S-pen is just amazing on the Note 10.1 Id advice you to get it.
freelancer81 said:
I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
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Yeah it can be a bit difficult deciding between 2 good devices.
It is either the Atom processor or the S-Pen.
The S-Pen seems pretty awesome but in the same time the Atom processor will give it a ultimate boost in performance.
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You know what...these companies just toy with us.
You will not find any device with all the good/best features.
They will add a particular feature to one model/device only, and another new feature to a different model/device.
Everyone would be happy if they put all their eggs in one basket!!
Do not get the Tablet S it will put you off Android tablets for life.
Get a Nexus 7 instead - Old or New. 4.3. on the old N7 really flies.
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Do not get the Tablet S it will put you off Android tablets for life.
Get a Nexus 7 instead - Old or New. 4.3. on the old N7 really flies.
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Thanks for the concern and insight.
Anyway, I've just place an order for Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 GT-N8000 for Rs.36000 INR (about $591.73 USD)
Thanks everyone for all your help in making the decision.
I guess I will now be active in the GT-N8000 forum now...see you all there!:highfive::highfive::highfive:
The sony tablet S was the worst decision I made.
The sdcard handling still sucks. No custom roms possible. Sony refuses to update it at all. And so on. Ill never ever again buy a android product produced by sony!
freelancer81 said:
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
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I have my STS which i am trying to sell because I have moved on to a newer one. If interested mail me @coolaks[email protected]
Hmmm....
Demand
moxia said:
My 5.0 is a bit banged-up and I'm wavering toward getting a refurbed unit as a backup before they all go and/or this one gives up the ghost, but I'd rather have something new.
- 7-inch tablets are a bit larger and bulkier than what I want. (The new Nexus 7 is a good deal, but....its still a tablet...without a microsd card slot.)
- Smart phones are too damn expensive and I'd really rather *not* have an OLED screen.
Samsung seems able to release every size and format of device except a media-centric device in the 5"-6" range.
I'd even settle for the 5.8 inch upgrade that was released in Korea sans a camera flash right about now.
Anyone else even a bit miffed at Samsung's firm focus on tablets and smartphones now?
I'm not complaining really. I still love love love my 5.0, but I hope this isn't the end of the line for this format in this size.
-A Samsung customer getting really tired of waiting for something new.
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If the market was there, and large enough, rest assured, they would get to work on it immediately. I'm not sure the market is there for smaller-than-tablet devices.
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If the market was there, and large enough, rest assured, they would get to work on it immediately. I'm not sure the market is there for smaller-than-tablet devices.
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The market may have shriveled to a pathetic nub for all I know, but I wish to add my voice to the OPs. That post pretty well describes me (perhaps there's a fair number of us holding the fort; dare I hope?).
I often dryly state that i am 'between jobs' so a smartphone w/ contract really isn't an option for me right now, but I'd dearly love to dump such shekels as I can spare into a quality pocketable Android device that is still being supported. My beloved Sansa has begun to show its age, so I won't be able to put the decision off too much longer. Hear me, O Mighty Samsung Gods, all I ask is one last pseudo-Luddite-indulging hurrah...
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If the market was there, and large enough, rest assured, they would get to work on it immediately. I'm not sure the market is there for smaller-than-tablet devices.
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You may be right, but surely South Koreans aren't the only ones who buy PMPs. I'm sure they'd sell more if they offered them worldwide.
Maybe they're going to offer the YP-GP1-5.8 reissue soon stateside/worldwide (It's been about a year since it was released in Korea) after the market there becomes saturated with them and they have a ton of parts left lying around and need to make a profit on them.
Or maybe not. The Nexus 7-2nd Gen. *is* starting to look a bit more attractive though....just a bit...
I think actually the galaxy player is a good alternative to expensive tablets and phone and these mixtures because. But something new wouldn't be bad...
A little bit more power and RAM would be enough
The Design might be a little bit more rounded but the size is nearly perfect
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IKR we need an upgrade.
moxia said:
You may be right, but surely South Koreans aren't the only ones who buy PMPs. I'm sure they'd sell more if they offered them worldwide.
Maybe they're going to offer the YP-GP1-5.8 reissue soon stateside/worldwide (It's been about a year since it was released in Korea) after the market there becomes saturated with them and they have a ton of parts left lying around and need to make a profit on them.
Or maybe not. The Nexus 7-2nd Gen. *is* starting to look a bit more attractive though....just a bit...
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I don't think it is that. The market is here, but the thing is Samsung is the only company from what I seen that made an android PMP player. Also with this market you have to make the device a great price, and that's any where from $100-$150. I'd say $200 but then people would be all like "Well I can get a nexus 7 for that price"
I want an upgrade also. Sucks that the galaxys players are not as popular as ipods
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jmindset said:
I want an upgrade also. Sucks that the galaxys players are not as popular as ipods
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Yes it really sucks but the problem is a lack of marketing for our device. Most people asking about my player are really impressed of its size and the fact that it's running android. They find it way better than these boring Apple iPods
Murphy's Law indicates that if I lose my cool and opt for a Nexus 7 'consolation prize', Samsung will release a dream device the next day
Ipods aren't even that popular anymore. Look how long it took Apple to refresh their lineup.
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JohnBergago said:
Yes it really sucks but the problem is a lack of marketing for our device. Most people asking about my player are really impressed of its size and the fact that it's running android. They find it way better than these boring Apple iPods
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Lol true. It's funny because most people that see me using mine(I use it as a wifi phone with Google voice and groove ip) think its an ACTUAL phone. I have owned the 3.6 and currently own the 4.2. I for one am impressed with what samsung has done with this. Its a win for them in my book.
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http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-player-ii-spotted-in-benchmarks-20130430/
Looks like Samsung already made a successor to the Galaxy Player but it seems that the demand for these devices isn't that large (even though 5" is perfect)
Tech Bottom Feeder said:
Murphy's Law indicates that if I lose my cool and opt for a Nexus 7 'consolation prize', Samsung will release a dream device the next day
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but lets face the truth, there is no way samsung is gonna make a ~200 media player thats as good as the N7.
Lets examine the specs:
Nexus 7 2013:
7” 1,920 by 1,200 (323ppi) screen
16 GB storage
1.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro
2GB RAM
5-megapixel primary camera
3,950mAh
Price: 230
Galaxy player 5:
5” 480 by800 screen
8 GB storage
1GHz singe-core Hummingbird
0.5GB RAM
3-megapixel primary camera
2,500 mAh
Price: 220
iurnait said:
but lets face the truth, there is no way samsung is gonna make a ~200 media player thats as good as the N7.
Lets examine the specs:
Nexus 7 2013:
7” 1,920 by 1,200 (323ppi) screen
16 GB storage
1.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro
2GB RAM
5-megapixel primary camera
3,950mAh
Price: 230
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5” 480 by800 screen
8 GB storage
1GHz singe-core Hummingbird
0.5GB RAM
3-megapixel primary camera
2,500 mAh
Price: 220
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Yep but that's considering Google is selling the nexus 7 at cost. Also the SGP got released nearly 2 years ago, give it a break on the specs sheet, Lool. It's not even comparable.
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My OCD Googling habit fot "YP-GI2" shows that a bunch of buzz has sprung up in the last 24 hours regarding a device dubbed the Galaxy 070. I look forward to the weighing in of forum heavyweights on the matter ...
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My OCD Googling habit fot "YP-GI2" shows that a bunch of buzz has sprung up in the last 24 hours regarding a device dubbed the Galaxy 070. I look forward to the weighing in of forum heavyweights on the matter ...
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Awesome hearing this. I was considering buying a nexus7. But might not now lol
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jmindset said:
Awesome hearing this. I was considering buying a nexus7. But might not now lol
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Well, the rumor mill identifies it as possibly a "home phone", but if it's got good sound and the right price, they could call it the Galaxy Nosehair Trimmer and I'd still get it
Tech Bottom Feeder said:
Well, the rumor mill identifies it as possibly a "home phone", but if it's got good sound and the right price, they could call it the Galaxy Nosehair Trimmer and I'd still get it
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Home phone is fine. Since that's what I use my galaxy player as. A wifi phone would be better lol
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jmindset said:
Lol true. It's funny because most people that see me using mine(I use it as a wifi phone with Google voice and groove ip) think its an ACTUAL phone. I have owned the 3.6 and currently own the 4.2. I for one am impressed with what samsung has done with this. Its a win for them in my book.
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Same here! I'm with the OP! I'm still glad to know there are a lot of people out there that share my opinion on the need for an updated Player (sans phone/plan)!