Ok so I just went to the verizon store and played with the droid bionic and i just want to know like I know different carriers so there's gunna be minor differences but can anyone tell me why the bionic is so much caer than the photon if they have the same processor and internals like the bionic is lightning fast and the version of blur is so much better like why do sprint phones always get the **** end if the stick the epic was a epic fail the hero stupid slow the evo sucked all these "top of the line phones" in sprints lineup is always inferior to verizon and att and sometimes even tmobile like wtf why is sprint suing so bad right now the first 4g carrier was also the first carrier to STOP rolling out 4g its pathetic I know this is a rant but it also is a legitimate question so if someone could please answer the first part or as much as you can I'd appreciate it thanks a lot
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Shheeeiiiitttt flame on! OMG What?
Lol seriously theres something called google
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Lol seriously theres something called google
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Lol seriously I did google it and came up with nothing other than the fact that they have the same specs sooooo I'm posting on xda where they know stuff like this buuuut we have douche bags in this forum who answer n00b questions with things like "lol seriously theres something called google" sooooo therefore I have to respond like a asshole cause you are one and usually people don't understand unless I talk. Like you but thanks
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Ill answer your question the bionic is that way cause as soon as you get the phone they take a 10 foot pole and ass rape you for two years......
They have to make you oblivious some way that's why they hypnotize you with the boot screen.....evil DROID eye.
But seriously the bionic is fugly as hell
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Pretty much the same phone on a different network. I find that the Photon feels better in the hand than the Bionic. like the fact that the Photon is a world phone as opposed to a Bionic.
Question. Are you randy40? The one that posted the not sure thread. You both write the same. Just sayin
*sticks nose in air turns head.....Ok i'll be the first to answer your question with common s.......
Ok it's simple, VERIZON has all that money to hype their phone and sway people to belive this and that, also simply because it's on verizon's LTE aka faster than sprints wimax they say so just those 2 reasons kind of put you in mind of wanting to get ANY 4g phone from Verizon rather than sprint......other than that BIONIC kind of sounds badas if you will, most of these websites hypes the bionic a lot too, I guess they just love them some Verizon over Sprint.
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Ill answer your question the bionic is that way cause as soon as you get the phone they take a 10 foot pole and ass rape you for two years......
They have to make you oblivious some way that's why they hypnotize you with the boot screen.....evil DROID eye.
But seriously the bionic is fugly as hell
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Lol thanks least someone can have a sense of humor nd yeah I know verizon is the anti christ of carriers
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*sticks nose in air turns head.....Ok i'll be the first to answer your question with common s.......
Ok it's simple, VERIZON has all that money to hype their phone and sway people to belive this and that, also simply because it's on verizon's LTE aka faster than sprints wimax they say so just those 2 reasons kind of put you in mind of wanting to get ANY 4g phone from Verizon rather than sprint......other than that BIONIC kind of sounds badas if you will, most of these websites hypes the bionic a lot too, I guess they just love them some Verizon over Sprint.
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No I meant performance wise I could care less about wimax vs lte sprint BLOWS compared to everyone else's 4g I know that i meant the bionic feels so much more fluid it feels sooooo much smoother as in swiping opening applications etc
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Question. Are you randy40? The one that posted the not sure thread. You both write the same. Just sayin
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No I'm actually ghozt718 lol
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They aren't the same phone and they don't have the same specs.
The obvious
Motoblur(Poton) vs Motorola UI(Bionic)
The motorola redesigned it's user interface in order to make it faster, more user friendly and utilizeless resources. The Motorola UI is also present in the Droid 3 phones.
The not so Obvious
Tegra 2 (Photon) vs TI OMAP4 (Bionic)
Tegra 2 is unique because it has what is called an Ultra Low Power (ULP) GPU. It essentially has to GPUs where if it doesn't need to push itself, the ULP would kick it as a result saving a lot of battery power.
The TI OMAP4 doesn't have a feature like that it has something different. It has a dual channel and it is dual threaded. It is the only dual threaded processor on the market. It is in a way the only true dual core processor on the market.
The quadrant test out there are only designed to test a single core and a single thread, so therefore not accurate.
I'm not impressed about the SGS2 quadrant score because it is a single Thread processor.
Most people aren't aware of the differences, but now your informed.
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They aren't the same phone and they don't have the same specs.
The obvious
Motoblur(Poton) vs Motorola UI(Bionic)
The motorola redesigned it's user interface in order to make it faster, more user friendly and utilizeless resources. The Motorola UI is also present in the Droid 3 phones.
The not so Obvious
Tegra 2 (Photon) vs TI OMAP4 (Bionic)
Tegra 2 is unique because it has what is called an Ultra Low Power (ULP) GPU. It essentially has to GPUs where if it doesn't need to push itself, the ULP would kick it as a result saving a lot of battery power.
The TI OMAP4 doesn't have a feature like that it has something different. It has a dual channel and it is dual threaded. It is the only dual threaded processor on the market. It is in a way the only true dual core processor on the market.
The quadrant test out there are only designed to test a single core and a single thread, so therefore not accurate.
I'm not impressed about the SGS2 quadrant score because it is a single Thread processor.
Most people aren't aware of the differences, but now your informed.
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Its actually reversed the bionic and DROID 3 run blur the photon is Motorola application platform
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What is the OP talking about? Droid Bionic is almost the same as the Photon but the Photon wins based on a very extensive and detailed dog fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlH5l-z4dYk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txRW-7cGe9Q
It loses in the WiMax vs LTE and 720 vs 1080... but that doesn't mean the phone is ****... The quadrant score is substantial... The phone itself is king.
No... I'm positive I have it right. The mooblur is the old. motor UI is the New. The Droid 3 was the first phone to receive it.
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The quadrant score doesn't mean anything if it only test one core, one channel, and one thread.
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I got rid of most of the sprint crap, and used Shabby's little trick to use both cores, and overclocked it, and the phone is pretty snappy for me. I haven't messed with the Bionic, so I can't really give an opinion on that, but those are the things i've done to make mine improved. And I enjoy it. :]
According to Motorola the Photon does not have Motoblur.
The EVO was crap?? A matter of opinion for sure and you would be in the minority.
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The quadrant score doesn't mean anything if it only test one core, one channel, and one thread.
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It doesn't mean anything to overall performance.
But if 1 core, 1 channel, 1 thread on the photon is faster than 1 core, 1 channel, 1 thread on another dualcore chip at the same frequency.. then it means a lot
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But it looks like the rest of the world has overlooked the Photon as well...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/20/hulu-plus-for-android-gets-more-plusses-adds-compatibility-to-n/
Hulu Plus already adds Droid Bionic and Evo 3D... but photon can sit and spin.
Ok this is BS.
Why are app writer hitting the atrix and bionic but blowing of the photon?
the fact just had to installed a bionic app to get video chat on the photon pisses me to no end
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I've been sifting thru the dev section I'm def not the type to bite the hand that feeds me just more curious as if to why if someone could shed some light on this for me I'd be much abliged. Also any word on cm7 coming our way.
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I've been sifting thru the dev section I'm def not the type to bite the hand that feeds me just more curious as if to why if someone could shed some light on this for me I'd be much abliged. Also any word on cm7 coming our way.
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CM7 is on it's way, I can't remember who is doing it.
I'm sure more ROMs will appear soon enough.
Please remember that this phone isn't old, and phones like the DX1 are over a year old, so of course there's way more ROMs for it.
The bootloader is still locked and the phone is not on the top of anyones list apart from the people who have built roms.
Give it time. The big dogs will be here. We have a good start on things!
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Sounds good like I said not complaining just trying to gather some insight. Used to have og droid and loved it this phone seems to have a great deal of potential.
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The DROID incredible started out this way. And its got many many roms now.
I don't understand why people knock this phone, its badass ....
4g is over rated and too new
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Sounds good like I said not complaining just trying to gather some insight. Used to have og droid and loved it this phone seems to have a great deal of potential.
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It's funny because the hardware is badass in the Droid X2. Compared to the Incredible 2, Charge, Thunderbolt, it crushes them all. Sure it doesn't have 4G and an AMOLED screen, but honestly with a dual-core CPU and a Tegra GPU you are just holding tons of potential in your hand.
You don't see many ROM's being released because they would all be iterations of Motoblur, which IMO sucks. All the ROM's out right now are practically the same thing, and the ONLY thing that would differentiate them would be either A) a different theme, or B) a few custom mods like additional lock screen choices. Unfortunately, that is all you would see and from a dev standpoint you just don't see the point.
Well I hope this phone lives up to the potential that it has with hardware. I agree fully this thing flies and is a huge leap forward in android type devices. I'm sure in time we will have some top notch stuff coming our way I may even start deving again myself or at very least theming
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Well I hope this phone lives up to the potential that it has with hardware. I agree fully this thing flies and is a huge leap forward in android type devices. I'm sure in time we will have some top notch stuff coming our way I may even start deving again myself or at very least theming
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It does, and unfortunately at this time I think patience is key. I'd encourage you to do some development It can be fun, rewarding, and a great learning experience if you are still into that kind of thing.
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It's funny because the hardware is badass in the Droid X2. Compared to the Incredible 2, Charge, Thunderbolt, it crushes them all. Sure it doesn't have 4G and an AMOLED screen, but honestly with a dual-core CPU and a Tegra GPU you are just holding tons of potential in your hand.
You don't see many ROM's being released because they would all be iterations of Motoblur, which IMO sucks. All the ROM's out right now are practically the same thing, and the ONLY thing that would differentiate them would be either A) a different theme, or B) a few custom mods like additional lock screen choices. Unfortunately, that is all you would see and from a dev standpoint you just don't see the point.
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Dual core doesn't actually mean double the fun. My benchmarking scores aren't that much better than my tbolt were, and I wasn't overclocked. The phone barely feels snappier.
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Don't know what your taking about just ran quadrant and 2503 not rooted or over clocked pretty damn good in my opinion. And yes I'm still in to deving but I may be looking at a lot on my plate soon going to be potentially web mastering 5 different businesses so that will be fairly well time consuming but well see
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Dual core doesn't actually mean double the fun.
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That's because most apps, including quadrant, are not optimized for dual cores. Until more apps are made to take advantage of better hardware, it wont be that much of a difference
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Dual core doesn't actually mean double the fun. My benchmarking scores aren't that much better than my tbolt were, and I wasn't overclocked. The phone barely feels snappier.
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It's not about it being faster or snappier, it's about the fact that there are TWO CPU's crunching numbers instead of just one. Keep in mind that a lot of apps are not yet programmed for dual-core processing, since the technology is relatively new to the mobile market. When you see more applications programming for dual-core processing then you will see a difference. It was the same with regular PC's when dual-core processors came on the market, as well as with 32-bit started to transition to 64-bit.
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Dual core doesn't actually mean double the fun. My benchmarking scores aren't that much better than my tbolt were, and I wasn't overclocked. The phone barely feels snappier.
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Quadrant is trash for benchmarks. If you run smartbench or antutu the X2 demolishes the bolt and charge and any single cpu phone. I've gotten 4.9-5k on my X2 on Antutu, where as my friend on his OC Tbolt running cm7 @ 1.8ghz only gets like 3.8k. But atm for real world you won't notice too much of a difference since apps aren't optimized for dual core as stated earlier. But full flash websites on desktop mode are no problem for this phone to chew through. If you try that on the charge, good luck even scrolling through the browser. But as long as you enjoy the phone who cares right? In the world of Android your phone is quickly outdated since all the manufacters and their mothers love to push out phones at the speed of light.
Who watched the ICS launch and is even more angry about having a locked bootloader?
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I watched the event. Now hoping that the X2 is on the list to get the update.
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I am going to say that the X2 wont get it, at least not anytime soon until Moto breaks it down and skins it(so maybe next summer). The fact that there is so much built into the phone to function without buttons means that Moto has to build in and map their functionality. And, since supposedly the Xoom is the first to get it on tablet, you would think it would go to the Razr, then Bionic/Atrix 2/Photon 4g, THEN the lower end devices. Needless to say, I don't think you should get your hopes up.
I watched it though. I was VERY impressed with some of the things I saw! The lock screen portion with the video was really cool! However, I don't think I would want my phone to do that everytime, seems too tedious still. Maybe after the phone has been passive for 20 minutes or something like that.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
fargles said:
is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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I think the "thing" is Google wanting to buy Motorola Mobility
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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How creditable is that fella, wolfe? 31 posts w/ 8 thx. If he had a connection like that you'd think his post count would be retarded with threads on unlocks since his buddy "...would come over to my house and unlock my bootloader".
Where can I watch a replay of the event?
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How creditable is that fella, wolfe? 31 posts w/ 8 thx. If he had a connection like that you'd think his post count would be retarded with threads on unlocks since his buddy "...would come over to my house and unlock my bootloader".
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Yeah, take it with a grain of salt for sure. Worth a read at least.
Here is why it had me thinking. Moto always blames Verizon for the BL. HTC and Sammy phones get unlocked all day. So why would Verizon bias Moto? It gets the gears churning boys...
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I don't believe any Moto phone has their bl unlocked, do they? The lock is all Moto. My gut is telling me if it were up to Google they would have all phones
unlocked and completely open.
Either way, thx for sharing! Good to see you lingering around here yet.
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ATRIX, photon (aka MoPho), OG Droid, XOOM, and a couple more I believe.
Unlocked.
Edit: eris = HTC. Garbage phone btw.
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Back on topic, I heard that all phones running 2.3 will get ics...that means us. So I have my hopes up. I also have my hopes that moto will make good on their deadline to unlock their devices.
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My thoughts are, with the patent wars, Google is trying to cover their ass right now. Until the proposed deal is approved, they are wanting to make sure that nothing slips thru the cracks that could be harmful to their cause in the hands of the opposition. Not to mention, they probably have some new devices in testing along with new hardware components that would be in Google's best interest not to have leaked until they are certified by the FCC. I am going to have to give Google the benefit of the doubt, and say until the deal is approved, they are doing what they can to cover their asses.
As far as VZW being to blame for Moto, I think it has to do with the fact that Moto is an American company, and they can be pressured by big Red. Whereas HTC and Samsung typically have a broader market share outside of the US. Especially with Sammy being a monstrosity of a Korean company in all terms. I lived in Korea for 2 years(Army), LG and Sammy run their world over their! LG is even the biggest ISP! They are leaps and bounds beyond what we have in the US over there though. Thanks to the FCC and FTC! My computer monitors are 2 Innopix 24" OLED 1920x1200 and I bought them there almost 4 years ago for $150/ea! I built my entire computer setup there Feb 2008, I still score a 6.8 on Windows experience index. Cost me less than $1,500 for what would have cost $4,000 easily to buy off of Best Buys shelf... Not to mention Apple, ugh.
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Back on topic, I heard that all phones running 2.3 will get ics...that means us. So I have my hopes up. I also have my hopes that moto will make good on their deadline to unlock their devices.
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The simple fact that they locked the Razr before it is even released, lends me to believe your hopes will be crushed. Sorry man, no reason to lock a phone during the same period you stated you would unlock them.
Now, if 4.0 is still a "Google Experience" as other phones update to it, without their blur's and sense's like honeycomb was for tablets, MAYBE.
Didn't I read ICS requires 1G of RAM?
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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According to a spokesman, the lockdown was at the request of the carrier -- VZW, in this case. I am so sick of the shenanigans ...
I sent a tweet to moto asking if they have a list of phones that is going to get the ICS update. Maybe they will respond.
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I read somewhere that ice cream sandwich has hardware acceleration. Yay! Lol
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I understand the locked bootloaders because VZW probably spends thousands of dollars replacing phones for people who don't know what they are doing, just trying to impress friends. But still, we payed for it, its ours, we should be able to break it if we want
And I think we will get ICS, it just might take longer than expected.
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I understand the locked bootloaders because VZW probably spends thousands of dollars replacing phones for people who don't know what they are doing, just trying to impress friends. But still, we payed for it, its ours, we should be able to break it if we want
And I think we will get ICS, it just might take longer than expected.
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Yea If I want to ruin my phone that should be my life choice.
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Motorola said that within 6 weeks after the release of ICS they would announce what phones will get the ICS update.
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I just wanted to know what would it take for you to stay with HTC? It seems like most people on here dont like the galaxy s2 but always say that when sprint gets the galaxy nexus there gona get it. Me personally both of my lines are are eligible for upgrades and i passed on the iphone rush and galaxy s2. The 1st evo to me completely changed the way i did and will always look at a phone. Not the iphone or any blackberry but the evo4g. The evo 3d although wasnt as ground breaking still made me a happy htc customer. So i ask....what will HTC have to give us in there next major sprint phone to keep people from jumping ship to the galaxy? For me its basically just ICS and LTE. Possibly a camera as good as the og evo as well. So before anyone says it ill say it cool story bro....stop trolling blah blah blah....i just seriously wana know bc it seems like alot of people are losing faith in HTC
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Stop using ****ty cameras, stop using ****ty screens, use better speakers, change the damn phone design for once. They need to get it, yes the first Evo was revolutionary but that ship has sailed. Change the design on the phones and make them thinner and make sense optional. It wastes too much of the phones resources because of how bloated it is. That happens ill consider coming back to HTC but it's not likely so I probably wont. And FYI the camera in the Evo 4g sucked even more than the one in the 3D does. All their cameras suck that ive used.
Make Sense removable.
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They should make sense faster. I'm on mean Rom right now and its blazing fast. I don't see why HTC couldn't have made it as fast as that. And what everybody else says. Camera, screen, thinner. Personally I love sense, but it can be better
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Not planning on going anywhere here. Just waiting for the quadcore S4 chip HTC phone to drop for sprint personally. LTE modem being built directly in the die is interesting to me...
though I hear the complaints about camera, but personally I find it suitable for a phone, if they make it better, then so be it.
As for making phones thinner....im not on that boat here. Id rather have them the same thickness and size they are now. Holding those thin iPhones just doesn't feel right in the hand to me. Also when you go thinner you sacrifice the already slim battery life...
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Not planning on going anywhere here. Just waiting for the quadcore S4 chip HTC phone to drop for sprint personally. LTE modem being built directly in the die is interesting to me...
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Same here brother. I know what this phone is capable of and snatched it when I had my Hero.
I'm just hoping the development last just as long.
Im not to worried about a thinner phone myself because i always put them in big cases like the defender or ballistic. I agree with the speaker comment though....i never realized how bad it was until i heard my friends iphone playing pandora on speaker
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An HTC Nexus device.
HTC needs to innovate once again and get rid of the "cookie cutters", which have only slight differences. They should focus on 3-4 models across the board, ranging from entry level to high end.....their should be NO differences in look or features between carriers. This would also force carriers to focus more on improving their networks rather than flaunting that they have a "better" phone, which is what they should be doing.
Major (Android) updates in a timely fashion..... If we get ICS by June....and I do not believe it will be any earlier, that will make a full 8 months since source code was dropped to the open community. It is also well known that manufacturers have the code months before it is granted open source. With the expertise and resources that HTC possesses, 4-6 months is ample time to build and push an update....
Also i was on a service call and had to do service in one of sprints corporate buildings in fairfax virginia. A sprint tech there told me that the galaxy nexus will have face regonizition technology to unlock your phone. Hopefully htc has something similiar
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oohaylima said:
Same here brother. I know what this phone is capable of and snatched it when I had my Hero.
I'm just hoping the development last just as long.
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yeah the only thing that might get me to jump the gun early is depending on the details of when we will see quadcore from qualcomm in phones. The current S4 Quadcore chip is the APQ8064 which is paired with the Adreno 320 BUT that chip is geard toward more tablet and mobile computing devices rather than phones.
Reading more and more around it seems the most we will see at lease in the "near future"(this year) is the MSM8960 which is their dualcore S4 but its paired with the Adreno 225...
Think I read the time we'd see even the APQ8064 is around the holidays too. So maybe next year for qualcomm quadcore S4 chips in phones?
The dualcore S4's are real improvement though still having modem's built in the die and getting the improvement there no one else is thus far...
I am in the minority but I prefer sense UI to asop. ICS is no different. However that is a very small deal when it comes to which phone I choose next. I have the EVO 4g and that sold me to get EVO3D on opening day. While I stick with HTC? Sure but only if they make best product to choose from that can be rooted. They best step it up because gIII looking good and all it would take is Motorola to unlock and I'd possibly leave. They have me.....for the moment
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Also i was on a service call and had to do service in one of sprints corporate buildings in fairfax virginia. A sprint tech there told me that the galaxy nexus will have face regonizition technology to unlock your phone. Hopefully htc has something similiar
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That's ICS that has it, not the nexus. ICS just happens to be on the phone.
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Stop using ****ty cameras, stop using ****ty screens, use better speakers, change the damn phone design for once. They need to get it, yes the first Evo was revolutionary but that ship has sailed. Change the design on the phones and make them thinner and make sense optional. It wastes too much of the phones resources because of how bloated it is. That happens ill consider coming back to HTC but it's not likely so I probably wont. And FYI the camera in the Evo 4g sucked even more than the one in the 3D does. All their cameras suck that ive used.
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Those are all things that the Rezound has over this phone. The camera has been quoted to be one of the best available on a smart phone, and it has a higher screen density than the GNex because of 720p on a smaller screen. Design is different as well.
Oh ok....thanks for clearing that up.
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Never really had a problem with the form factor of the EVO or the EVO 3D. If I could get the same Sony cam that's in the 4s, better camera/camcorder software, like the 3D aspect, so improve upon that. 1080p recorder. Definitely must be more powerful, so either a quad-core processor or a dual dual-core processor works for me.
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I know a lot of you guys are lucky enough to have pre-1.5 hboots. If the next superphone from HTC is locked and everyone has to use the HTC unlock, would you still consider it or jump ship?
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An HTC Nexus device.
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I would like to see another htc nexus device... I wonder why Google stopped using htc for their nexus line.... Although I don't think we will see a htc nexus device once the Motorola acquisition is complete.
Uhm...try again. HTC did not make toe nexus devices. Samsung did....fail
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I would like to see another htc nexus device... I wonder why Google stopped using htc for their nexus line.... Although I don't think we will see a htc nexus device once the Motorola acquisition is complete.
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I love my photon, but there is that pesky unlocked situation. i recently switched internet providers and had to use 3g for a few days since im running the gummy rom. after the 3 days im ready to switch. i need 4g and the abilty to tinker with my device. this has been a great phone, but motorola has let everyone down. i will be switching back to htc starting with evo 3d. Thanks to the devs and photon members that have made hacking this phone fun and easy. im gonna miss it.
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I feel your pain, but good things come to those who wait. I imagine youll hate your 3D after being with the Photon. Seems to be the general consensus. Bad software is fixable, bad hardware isn't.
3D? are you serious? I'd get original before 3D if that is your opinion. But just like other poster, Im waiting it out!
My Photon still does 4G just fine. Honestly, I've never understood why people moved from 4G to 3G-only ROMs.
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I have an original EVO (now daughter's), EVO 3D (wife's), and Photon (mine).
Photon has clearly better radios. Otherwise, all are nice phones.
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My Photon still does 4G just fine. Honestly, I've never understood why people moved from 4G to 3G-only ROMs.
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I have an original EVO (now daughter's), EVO 3D (wife's), and Photon (mine).
Photon has clearly better radios. Otherwise, all are nice phones.
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i don't understand why people need 4g so desperately.
the only thing motorola lacks is updates and unlocked bootloaders.
i already have the 3d. it works good and they have great roms. i need 4g when i cant use wifi. its an unlock issue. it shouldnt matter if i want to unlock it. evo was the best phone ive ever had. for a hackalicious person like myself. the 4g roms on the photon just arent near as good as installing kitchen sink. i want unlocked options on a 4g device. btw gummy is the only rom that works perfect mms etc.
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theres nothing to wait for, motorola will never unlock the bootloader. i dont want stock ics. i want maxed out kernel pushing the device.
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Acvice said:
I feel your pain, but good things come to those who wait. I imagine youll hate your 3D after being with the Photon. Seems to be the general consensus. Bad software is fixable, bad hardware isn't.
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Forum someone that would on phones all day I can say that the 3d isn't nearly as well made as the original evo. I wish they used all the money they put in that parallax display for better build quality. I'm interested to see how policy changes at Motorola now that they are Google owned but I don't hold much hope that it will affect the current handsets.
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yea i have a 3d lying around. been devvin it till i decide to switch.
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na7q said:
i don't understand why people need 4g so desperately.
the only thing motorola lacks is updates and unlocked bootloaders.
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Because it's there, like ICS ROMs. It's a nice perk, but vs. 3G? No big deal. I mean, you don't see anybody posting speed tests about how much faster it is. My understanding is that it isn't much faster, just more stable on video. So maybe it's 3MBit as opposed to 1MBit or something. But again, nobody with 4G is bragging about the speed with solid numbers; until they do I wouldn't worry about it. Also, it's in what, two cities in America? Los Angeles and New York City? Maybe Chicago and Dallas as well? I dunno. I'm sure it's more than that but the point is, most of us couldn't get it if we wanted it.
Motorola will always get better signal than HTC, at least for now. They have the best radios; everything else is a compromise. Motorola usually wins on battery life, too. I just think Motorola makes the best hardware. Best software, that's another story. Blur is a dog, but I'm no fan of Sense. I think Sense is great for iConverts who need hand holding in the big scary Android world, but for me, I just want AOSP with the Google apps and a few others and I'm good. I will say that the Sense clock is nice, though. They can keep their weird ring lock, though; the one in CM9 is better. Non-Motorola smartphones are to Motorola phones what Hackintoshes are to real Macs. A nice try but not quite the total package. IMO.
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Because it's there, like ICS ROMs. It's a nice perk, but vs. 3G? No big deal. I mean, you don't see anybody posting speed tests about how much faster it is. My understanding is that it isn't much faster, just more stable on video. So maybe it's 3MBit as opposed to 1MBit or something. But again, nobody with 4G is bragging about the speed with solid numbers; until they do I wouldn't worry about it. Also, it's in what, two cities in America? Los Angeles and New York City? Maybe Chicago and Dallas as well? I dunno. I'm sure it's more than that but the point is, most of us couldn't get it if we wanted it.
Motorola will always get better signal than HTC, at least for now. They have the best radios; everything else is a compromise. Motorola usually wins on battery life, too. I just think Motorola makes the best hardware. Best software, that's another story. Blur is a dog, but I'm no fan of Sense. I think Sense is great for iConverts who need hand holding in the big scary Android world, but for me, I just want AOSP with the Google apps and a few others and I'm good. I will say that the Sense clock is nice, though. They can keep their weird ring lock, though; the one in CM9 is better. Non-Motorola smartphones are to Motorola phones what Hackintoshes are to real Macs. A nice try but not quite the total package. IMO.
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4G is Much faster, but I travel a lot and rarely am able to keep a 4G connection for more than 30 seconds or a minute or so. And more like 1G in my house, but I use 6M WiFi so OK. So, 4G for me is worthless.
But likewise, there is nothing in the custom 3G ROMs that excites me. I prefer stability over a few minor tweaks.
my gummy rom is super stable. i live in downtown seattle an my 3g barely loads facebook, but my 4g(when i sbf back to stock at random times) is blazing. faster than my home comcast. i might just flash this photon to boost so if im geting 3g only ill pay 50 instead of between 100-200 to sprint.
people say motorola has better radios but i dunno my gfs iphone 3g rules.
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I just had to chime in. My wife had the evo 3d, ended up replacing it 6 times for different issues, she was finally available for her upgrade and she got the SGS3. She LOVES that phone. She is on it night and day. She said it is a night and day difference in how smooth everything is etc. Just my 2 cents, but the evo3d was a poorly executed phone. The hardware was great (with the exception of the 3d camera) but the software was JUST not there and too slow...
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I just had to chime in. My wife had the evo 3d, ended up replacing it 6 times for different issues, she was finally available for her upgrade and she got the SGS3. She LOVES that phone. She is on it night and day. She said it is a night and day difference in how smooth everything is etc. Just my 2 cents, but the evo3d was a poorly executed phone. The hardware was great (with the exception of the 3d camera) but the software was JUST not there and too slow...
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Yeah, I have to say the 3D was a super turd when it came to performance. Idk exactly what was causing it to be such a dog, unstable sense and firmware ota for my wifes, I definitely would have took my og evo over it any day of the week... And it wad dropped on toilet, spiderwebbed screen, half a flash, lol! It was a flash machine, roms for days, kernels, devs out the wazoo, just a great phone. Unlock this photon I have now, locked up like Fort Knox! And I need 4g so that the way it shall stay... #goodbyemoto #hellos3/evolte
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Yeah, I have to say the 3D was a super turd when it came to performance. Idk exactly what was causing it to be such a dog, unstable sense and firmware ota for my wifes, I definitely would have took my og evo over it any day of the week... And it wad dropped on toilet, spiderwebbed screen, half a flash, lol! It was a flash machine, roms for days, kernels, devs out the wazoo, just a great phone. Unlock this photon I have now, locked up like Fort Knox! And I need 4g so that the way it shall stay... #goodbyemoto #hellos3/evolte
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I feel the same way
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I didnt go with the 3d i decided to switch to verizon. The lte is sick and i got the lucid for free which is better than the photon. Fast great screen etc. I do love the photon people so you should all get lucids or nexus so we can all stay lol.
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We were talking about Seattle rain the other night. One of my friends said there is a spice or some kind of weed substitute called Seattle rain. Is that what you based your name off of? Lol just curious
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Seatttlereign said:
I didnt go with the 3d i decided to switch to verizon. The lte is sick and i got the lucid for free which is better than the photon. Fast great screen etc. I do love the photon people so you should all get lucids or nexus so we can all stay lol.
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Lucid? Never heard of it
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Lol no i live in seattle and i reign down on mother&[email protected]:$ its my gamertag too. Lucid is a 1.2 dualcore lg phone great screen great phone fast. Noone developing for it i might start. I want the nexus but its hard to get discontinued. Im done with motorola
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Lol no i live in seattle and i reign down on mother&[email protected]:$ its my gamertag too. Lucid is a 1.2 dualcore lg phone great screen great phone fast. Noone developing for it i might start. I want the nexus but its hard to get discontinued. Im done with motorola
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How is the battery life?
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hey all, iv been an EVO owner since the OG evo on release date. Sorry to say but i threw in the towel today with my evo lte and bought a S3 on Craigslist and sold my evo to a family member. its been a good run! Im off to the s3 forums for now on.
i did love my lte evo very very much, but i feel like iv had the same phone for 4 years now and wanted to change it up with touchwiz.
Nothing wrong with that, my sister is very happy with her S3. So much so that she has yet to throw a ROM on it. It seems like a pretty good phone
running sense for 4 years got to me. i loved the phone but just felt i needed a change.
the phone runs very smooth, but it has lower benchmark scores than my evo -_-
Yeah...even now its pretty bloated. I usually jump ship as soon as I can, running CM10 with no complaints so far. I'm thinking of trying paranoid next. Like I said my lil sis loves it so far. Now if only I can get her to stop shouting bump me every time she wants to beam something
Youll be back they always come back lol
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Put the knife down wile. Let's think about this rationally
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Put the knife down wile. Let's think about this rationally
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What this aint rational? *starts cutting arms*
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I left and came back within a month.
GS3 is good but the E4glte has better quality...both phones are awesome tho
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I say it comes down to hardware because, who are we kidding, most of us can't wait to flash the latest and greatest on to our phones. All flagship phones have competing spec these days. Multiple core socs, HD screen 4+ inches, a clock speed of 1ghz or more. 512+ ram, etc....some one please take that knife away from wile and bring some bandages
I wouldn't be able to live with Samsung's hardware. The quality isn't there
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My parents both have S3s and love them. You really can't go wrong either way. I've always been a fan of HTC though.
Samsung can make a fine tv and maybe a few phones here and there
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I had the gs3 for a few days just out of curiosity...returned for my evo..this weekend I was actually able to use both side by side since my niece has a gs3...don't get me wrong it is nice and does certain things better..like its much louder speaker..but after side by side comparing the evo is better IMO...I think the hype around the gs3 makes ppl believe its better..mine opened apps faster loaded webpages faster took much better pictures and I think the evos screen is far superior ...I notice the pentile without even really looking for it and my screen was much brighter..now I'm.not saying one is much better than the other..bc u cant go wrong with either phone..but I'm sooo tired of hearing how much better the gs3 is when it just isn't ..if it weren't for the extra ram they would have nothing on the EVO
That's what a great marketing team can do, we get crap like some photographer taking pictures of a skydiving model.
Seriously that is one thing HTC could really work on, marketing.
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Warrior 3000 said:
running sense for 4 years got to me. i loved the phone but just felt i needed a change.
the phone runs very smooth, but it has lower benchmark scores than my evo -_-
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What phone runs smooth? The sg3? or the evo LTE? The benchmarks for both the sg3 and the evo LTE should be kinda close as they have the same processor.
If you are saying that your og evo has higher benchmarks, I highly recommend you start a career as a stand up comedian, because that's one of the funniest things I have ever heard :beer:
I have messed with a friends sg3 and it's a nice phone, enjoy!
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What phone runs smooth? The sg3? or the evo LTE? The benchmarks for both the sg3 and the evo LTE should be kinda close as they have the same processor.
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Doesn't Samsung use their home grown Krait SOC?
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Doesn't Samsung use their home grown Krait SOC?
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I'm pretty sure they both use the qualcomm krait s4 soc... I could be wrong but the sprint store reps in my area have said it's the same processor. I'll do some research and update my post. Thanks for the research task, gives me a few moments away from the wife and kids.
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And I could be wrong but Samsung has been bragging about their krait tech... and never trust a sprint rep unless you know them lol I over heard one tell a customer htc is made by HP computers and she bought it straight away
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And I could be wrong but Samsung has been bragging about their krait tech... and never trust a sprint rep unless you know them lol I over heard one tell a customer htc is made by HP computers and she bought it straight away
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Nope, it is the same exact soc krait s4 processor... http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/05/htc-evo-4g-lte-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-sprint/
About the sprint reps, some are knowledgeable, most want the commission. The store in the city I live in is a corporate store, so I'm hoping/assuming they might be more knowledgeable... Prolly not though. I brought my evo shift running running cm7 in a year ago and the rep had no clue. He actually thought it was cool. Lol
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