WHY IS IT that gsm development is so far behind in every thing, I know the kernal hasn't been released but that still has nothing to do with status bar tweaks, themes, and any other mod. I'm not blaming or bashing the devs. Cause I need them more than they need me. Just wanna some insight on why were so far behind
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cause most of us have purchased cdma evo 3d's not gsm
Damn that's sucks
The evo 3d GSM hasn't even been released in some countries yet so it's behind because there aren't that many devices out there compared to the cdma. Patience is key.
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The evo 3d GSM hasn't even been released in some countries yet so it's behind because there aren't that many devices out there compared to the cdma. Patience is key.
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Actually, far more countries have the GSM than the CDMA, as very few carriers anywhere in the world still use CDMA. The two big exceptions are Sprint and Verizon.
The main reasons the GSM is behind in development are that the EVO line is incredibly popular on Sprint, and so many people have upgraded from the original EVO 4G to the EVO 3D on that network, bringing the EVO 4G developers with them. Also, HTC screwed up when they posted the kernel sources for the GSM and the board files cannot be compiled. So until HTC fixes the problem (they have been made aware of it) there's only so much GSM developers can do.
Because the board files on GSM kernel are missing, as a result there is no custom kernel.
ps. I think HTC knows the problem a while back.
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Because the board files on GSM kernel are missing, as a result there is no custom kernel.
ps. I think HTC knows the problem a while back.
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Yeah. A number of us have bugged them repeatedly about it (I tweet their Twitter feed daily). They have acknowledged the issue and are working to get fixed kernel sources up for us.
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I want to buy a new android phone that will run on 4g network as i plan to use the phone for more than 1 year. Also, does the phone have NFC as well?
Thanks,
Barry
lochunwa said:
I want to buy a new android phone that will run on 4g network as i plan to use the phone for more than 1 year. Also, does the phone have NFC as well?
Thanks,
Barry
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http://www.htc.com/us/search?q=&p=4778&t=all
HTC EVO 3D (Rogers)
Voici le nouveau HTC EVOMC 3D.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/evo3d-rogers
It appears HTC used to have the EVO 3D for rogers listed separately but the links in HTC's own search results don't work! Not sure why the pulled/moved their EVO 3D rogers page.
I'm not sure about the 4G as I can't seem to find HTC's official specs, but I'm pretty sure the phone won't have NFC. On the android blog sites I glanced through, didn't see any mention of NFC for the EVO 3D.
Although, I have read there will be some aftermarket companies providing NFC support as an add-on. NFC is a really thin piece of technology that can fit under the back battery cover, which is also how it is implemented on my NS4G. Although I haven't ever really used it yet and I'm in NYC, supposedly support will be coming soon from retailers, etc.
Yeah, they also seem to have taken down (or never put up) the Rogers EVO 3D discussion forum either.
The Rogers EVO 3D is not an LTE phone, according to the Rogers rep at the sore where I bought mine. Which is somewhat disappointing as I live in Ottawa where LTE is being tested. He stated that Rogers doesn't actually have any LTE phones available currently, and the first should show up in September.
As such, the EVO 3D is not a 4G phone on Rogers.
Despite that, when connected to the Rogers HSDPA+ network, the phone will show "4G" on the statusbar, confusing things.
Need to go to the Canada site to get the Rogers phone
http://www.htc.com/ca/products/evo3d-rogers
No LTE
They recently said that if other networks call HSDPA+ a 4G network, they will as well...
saltorio said:
Yeah, they also seem to have taken down (or never put up) the Rogers EVO 3D discussion forum either.
The Rogers EVO 3D is not an LTE phone, according to the Rogers rep at the sore where I bought mine. Which is somewhat disappointing as I live in Ottawa where LTE is being tested. He stated that Rogers doesn't actually have any LTE phones available currently, and the first should show up in September.
As such, the EVO 3D is not a 4G phone on Rogers.
Despite that, when connected to the Rogers HSDPA+ network, the phone will show "4G" on the statusbar, confusing things.
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They recently said that if other networks call HSDPA+ a 4G network, they will as well...
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Yet another reason the CRTC needs to kick the collective asses of our telecom oligopoly. HSDPA+ and 4G are two very different things, and calling one the other just confuses things, especially when people read/hear about 4G in other countries (where they actually mean WiMax or LTE).
so sprint just announced there first lte network area, and i just happen to live smack dab in the middle
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/28/sprint-caps-year-of-network-vision-milestones-with-first-lte-clu/
so other than huge jumping jacks being done by me, how likely is it that our/my phone will be able to be the new baddest MoPho on the planet?
**edit** wrong link
Photon doesn't have an LTE radio so its not like you'll get to use it *jealousy shrug* lol. LTE sprint phones should make an appearance on sprint's line up some time next year. I'm thinking after the summer or Q4.
i thought i read somewhere that the photon had a dual wimax/lte chip?
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i thought i read somewhere that the photon had a dual wimax/lte chip?
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Nope lol. Just wimax, cdma 1x evdo, and the gsm bands. I don't think there's a single phone on the market that has both wimax and lte if it is I bet you won't find in the US.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_photon_4g_mb855-3987.php
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i thought i read somewhere that the photon had a dual wimax/lte chip?
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Theres been rumors it does and that motorola has been hiding it..
We wont know until motorola releases the official full hardware specs of the phone this month (i think around mid this month) along with the phones kernel
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Theres been rumors it does and that motorola has been hiding it..
We wont know until motorola releases the official full hardware specs of the phone this month (i think around mid this month) along with the phones kernel
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There's no way they could hide it lol. The phone would have to be thicker to include a wimax and LTE radio. Again, there's no phone in the US that has this and I assure you the photon isn't going to be the one. There's been plenty of complete tear downs/videos and a wimax radio was alone. No LTE. I doubt they would "hide it" then reveal it. That doesn't really make sense to a marketing standpoint; if it had an LTE radio sprint would market the **** out of the photon to make money since the photon would be the only phone in the world with that combo.
I've been told many times by Motorola & Sprint that it has LTE, and we will get it in a software update. I am going to wait and see. Who knows, we may be surprised, although I am not counting on it.
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There's no way they could hide it lol. The phone would have to be thicker to include a wimax and LTE radio. Again, there's no phone in the US that has this and I assure you the photon isn't going to be the one. There's been plenty of complete tear downs/videos and a wimax radio was alone. No LTE. I doubt they would "hide it" then reveal it. That doesn't really make sense to a marketing standpoint; if it had an LTE radio sprint would market the **** out of the photon to make money since the photon would be the only phone in the world with that combo.
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Then why else would they not release there specs till january around the same time sprint reveals a big suprise at ces the 10th and motorola be the first company around the same time as development of this phone talk with beceem to create a wiimax+lte chip anddd they could not release that info to sell sprints other phones for the time being then the people who have those phones but want lte when available would have to buy the photon?.. also like the guy said above me many sprint stores will tell you there will be an update for lte on our phones.. And the phone wouldnt be that much thicker at all if it was anyways its already a lil thick compared to samsung phones... The only tear downs ive seen couldnt get past the metal plating covering the radios.. If they did the lte+wiimax chip is a pretty simple looking chip so easily missed.. Not saying your wrong just saying I do believe there is a possibility and listed all the arguements ive heard stating why (ive also validated those arguements too) either way I love this phone!!
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I guess I'll be one of the first to find out! It would be really cool if it is true, oh well if not.
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I guess I'll be one of the first to find out! It would be really cool if it is true, oh well if not.
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Do you plan on doing a teardown and soldering off the metal plates? Because if so yoyu would settle a long time rumor and possibly make it to engadget or phandroid. Either way I'm excited.
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I meant ill find out if it does when they turn on the network and update the software on our phones.
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I meant ill find out if it does when they turn on the network and update the software on our phones.
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You willing to put a little wager on that? You're not getting an update because it doesn't have LTE in the phone lol.
Hey chronic you wanna bet?
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I've been told many times by Motorola & Sprint that it has LTE, and we will get it in a software update. I am going to wait and see. Who knows, we may be surprised, although I am not counting on it.
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I work for corporate Sprint and can say that the Motorola Photon 4G does not have a LTE chipset in it nor do any of the smartphones in current product line up have one either. Go into a Sprint S&R Center and have a TSR show you the MoBo of a MoPho and you'll see the chipset is a WiMax one. The Sprint market where LTE has been turned up is immaterial in the sense that they are not any devices currently available to take advantage of it. I would suggest people to tune into CES 2012 where we will make announcements pertaining to various technologies to be deployed as well as new products and services
I've been telling these dudes this lol.
Oh well, I guess it was just another wet dream!
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I work for corporate Sprint and can say that the Motorola Photon 4G does not have a LTE chipset in it nor do any of the smartphones in current product line up have one either.
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Was told by Motorola this same thing... however, was told also that they're working on an LTE phone for Sprint... for some reason, Sprint & Motorola don't get along that well...
So if us cellular has a LTE network in select cities, could the electrify have the lte radio? Or do they have another 4G phone in the works?
Now would it be possible that they made the photon with the beacem 500 for the purpose of having a test phone for the network for when they were testing their lte network?
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So if us cellular has a LTE network in select cities, could the electrify have the lte radio? Or do they have another 4G phone in the works?
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From everything I've read from US Cellular, our phone wont do 4g. (this wont surprise some, but there were/are people holding out hope). Just read there announcement today that they have several new phones and a tablet in "R&D" for there new 4g network. Supposed to debut in select areas in June, if memory serves.
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Sprint store reps don't know
I was due for a phone update and asked a rep in one of the Sprint corporate store about the LTE 4G that is coming out and does the current phones have the hardware to be able to use this and was told that all of the current top 4G phones (Galaxy II s, HTC Evo 3D, Motorola Photon, etc..) will be able to use the LTE 4G. Now that I have a Photon and will be stuck for 22 months should I return it and wait for a LTE 4G phone to upgrade to? I thought it was probably tgtbt that the current phones would be able to support the new LTE 4G. I probably should contact someone in Sprint about what customers are being told to make a sale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is the ability to use 4g LYE in the software or hardware of the phone? I have an LTE sim card that came with my htc vivid, but as I understand (which isn't much), I will have to wait for an update or custom ROM that includes an LTE radio. I've also read that LTE phones have different modules in which case I would never get to use it on my i777. This phone is great and there's no way I'm trading it in for a Skyrocket just for LTE when everything else it's so much better on the i777.
Can any one tell me then, will I ever get to use LTE?
Hardware, google is your friend sir
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Just to add to the above answer
LTE and our Exynos chipset dont get along right now, hence all the LTE phones having snapdragon processors. Thats the main kicker for me. and LTE is in very few places is ****ing stupid that at&t is starting to focus even the smallest amount on LTE devices
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Is the ability to use 4g LYE in the software or hardware of the phone? I have an LTE sim card that came with my htc vivid, but as I understand (which isn't much), I will have to wait for an update or custom ROM that includes an LTE radio. I've also read that LTE phones have different modules in which case I would never get to use it on my i777. This phone is great and there's no way I'm trading it in for a Skyrocket just for LTE when everything else it's so much better on the i777.
Can any one tell me then, will I ever get to use LTE?
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Seriously?
Thanks, this is just the answer I was looking for, I do live in an LTE coverage area bad for me though
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Just to add to the above answer
LTE and our Exynos chipset dont get along right now, hence all the LTE phones having snapdragon processors. Thats the main kicker for me. and LTE is in very few places is ****ing stupid that at&t is starting to focus even the smallest amount on LTE devices
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I live in an area that should have great coverage but I still only get an average of 6Mbps, would updating my APN settings from the old wap.cingular help improve my data service?
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Is the ability to use 4g LYE in the software or hardware of the phone? I have an LTE sim card that came with my htc vivid, but as I understand (which isn't much), I will have to wait for an update or custom ROM that includes an LTE radio. I've also read that LTE phones have different modules in which case I would never get to use it on my i777. This phone is great and there's no way I'm trading it in for a Skyrocket just for LTE when everything else it's so much better on the i777.
Can any one tell me then, will I ever get to use LTE?
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Seriously?
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Oh here we go
Unstoppable force meets unmovable object!
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Hi all!
I'm new to the EVO 4G LTE family and I rooted my phone a few days back. I'm one of the lucky people and have 4g LTE in my area (near Chicago) and was wondering if the current ROMs have LTE working. I only ask this because I still have my 1st gen EVO and when I flashed to a sense 3.5 ROM, I was aware that there was no WiMax. But when I flashed it back to the MikG ROM, I could never connect to wimax even though roughly 90% of Chicago has WiMax. I only ask if anyone can please confirm LTE is working with most ROMs. Thanks.
All roms based on sense have LTE and most of the jb roms have LTE support as well. WiMAX was different because there was no official android support for WiMAX at the time. It wasn't widely adopted
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Hi all!
I'm new to the EVO 4G LTE family and I rooted my phone a few days back. I'm one of the lucky people and have 4g LTE in my area (near Chicago) and was wondering if the current ROMs have LTE working. I only ask this because I still have my 1st gen EVO and when I flashed to a sense 3.5 ROM, I was aware that there was no WiMax. But when I flashed it back to the MikG ROM, I could never connect to wimax even though roughly 90% of Chicago has WiMax. I only ask if anyone can please confirm LTE is working with most ROMs. Thanks.
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Yes, all custom ROMs I know of having working LTE. The reason you didn't have LTE on the 3.5 ROM is because the 3.5 ROM was ported from a devices that didn't have WiMAX, so even though your Evo had the hardware for it, the software wasn't there. All ROMs for the Evo 4G LTE (that I know of) aren't ports, so they should have LTE to begin with.
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Hi all!
I'm new to the EVO 4G LTE family and I rooted my phone a few days back. I'm one of the lucky people and have 4g LTE in my area (near Chicago) and was wondering if the current ROMs have LTE working. I only ask this because I still have my 1st gen EVO and when I flashed to a sense 3.5 ROM, I was aware that there was no WiMax. But when I flashed it back to the MikG ROM, I could never connect to wimax even though roughly 90% of Chicago has WiMax. I only ask if anyone can please confirm LTE is working with most ROMs. Thanks.
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All Sense-based roms should have working LTE. It is a toss-up for AOSP roms though CM10 is getting very close with some people having it work correctly
I bought an Evo 4g lte converted to work on page plus with full 3g capability. The phone works fine as is, but I've noticed a large difference in the reception numbers between the two. Right now I have my old Droid X sitting next to my Evo, and the Evo has -97dBm, but the Droid X is getting -87dBm. This makes me wonder if sprint phones can't take advantage of the 850mhz signal from Page Plus (essentialy Verizon prepaid) once flashed over. Another possibility is that Evo phones just have worse reception than Motorola (which has been in the antenna game much longer). It might also be appropriate to ask if others have noticed a difference between HTC and Motorola phones reception on the same network. If the phone isn't taking advantage of 850mhz, maybe there is a way to help it "discover" this reception through clever programming tricks?
Thats not a very fair comparison. Your comparing different manufacturer devices that are flashed on networks they werent intended for.
Heck even just comparing a Motorola to an HTC device isnt a fair comparison.
To make it fair you need to compare like models from the same manufacturer. So 2 EVO LTE side by side..
The variables between the two are many when it comes to design, antennas, antenna location on device, modems and radios..
Many people have mentioned that motorola does seem to have better receivers i them..
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Thats not a very fair comparison. Your comparing different manufacturer devices that are flashed on networks they werent intended for.
Heck even just comparing a Motorola to an HTC device isnt a fair comparison.
To make it fair you need to compare like models from the same manufacturer. So 2 EVO LTE side by side..
The variables between the two are many when it comes to design, antennas, antenna location on device, modems and radios..
Many people have mentioned that motorola does seem to have better receivers i them..
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Thanks for your reply, your points are valid, but don't help answer the mystery.
Another question worth asking (preferably from personal experience) would be...
Has anyone noticed issues with poor reception on Sprint phones flashed to Verizon vs native Verizon phones?
Another piece of info.
many original EVO 4G users complained after they upgraded to an EVO LTE that reception was not as good with the EVO LTE as it was on thier EVO 4G..
and i think i read somewhere that the EVO LTE did poorer in FCC testing then other handsets.. so your on the right track when it comes to the EVO LTE not having as good antenna or radios or what ever combination might be for a handset..
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Another piece of info.
many original EVO 4G users complained after they upgraded to an EVO LTE that reception was not as good with the EVO LTE as it was on thier EVO 4G..
and i think i read somewhere that the EVO LTE did poorer in FCC testing then other handsets.. so your on the right track when it comes to the EVO LTE not having as good antenna or radios or what ever combination might be for a handset..
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I remember reading this as well, but it seemed to me that they were talking about 4G reception, which is irrelevant in my case. This is the best phone I've used to date besides reception. It's actually the first phone (droid eris -> droid x -> droid x2 -> EVO 4g LTE) that I've used that doesn't require constant reboots to fix problems. One of the points to this thread is to discover whether it's worth dropping cash on a ported phone. If reception suffers in general, I wouldn't recommend doing it again if reception is top priority.
Sprint is now running 800 and 1900mhz, Verizon runs on 850 and 1900mhz frequencies per wiki. This leads me to believe that Sprint ported phones will generally only take advantage of the 1900mhz sharing. However, another page I read titled "HTC EVO 4G LTE tech details revealed in FCC OET filing" shows that this phone is capable of running at 850mhz. I'm not able to post the link due to being a noob.
On a side note, I used to find it humorous that my droid x2 page plus phone would work in places where Sprint phones would not.
Yeah thast kinda misleading and confusing.
If a device is speced out for 800mhz its the same band plan as 850mhz..
Technically its in the 850mhz region but as a generic name they all it or label it 800mhz band..