This device comes with a big screen but the cpu is not fast enough.
Can some devs teach me how to overclock it?
devs needed to make a custom kernel
I want to OC it too.
I want to OC it too.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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ooh i didn't see this thread. i just made the same thread minutes ago ooo. sorry mods!
For overclocking, get app called SetCPU. However, you need to know, if it supports your phone, rom and kernel.
i dont really know about roms or kernels. im a complete noob. i have everything stock cept for the rooting part.
Well, pretty much just ask around in forums or write to developer of the app if your device/rom/kernel is supported.
You find info about rom and kernel in phone settings phone info.
Or just get the app and try it yourself. If you overclock too much, it will just start freezing, so you'll know that you have to downclock a bit.
Well, there are only two kernel developers here in the P500 forum, franco and fserve. There is no doubt that the work both of you have done is off the charts, tweaking every little thing that can be tweaked to such an extent that there hardly is anything left to tweak. And there is no doubt that most, if not all, of the people using your kernels love the work you guys put out.
With that in mind, however, there are a couple of things (specifically bugs) that we request, not demand, to be fixed. As we all know, our phone is affected by two things that I, as well as many other users, believe are two major bugs: the cpu spiking to 100% when touching the screen and the axis inversion bugs. Even with both of your kernels as good as they are now, these bugs hinder their true capability, thus hindering the phone's true capability. Both of you might just be thinking, "Well, there is paolo's kernel, go use that." And as kernel developers, you have every right to think that and decline this request. But seeing how good both of your kernels are, why not make it better?
Please consider this, as many of us believe both of your kernels can be made better with these bugfixes.
The poll is there as an estimate and measure of how many users believe that these bugfixes will make your kernels better.
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Well, there are only two kernel developers here in the P500 forum, franco and fserve. There is no doubt that the work both of you have done is off the charts, tweaking every little thing that can be tweaked to such an extent that there hardly is anything left to tweak. And there is no doubt that most, if not all, of the people using your kernels love the work you guys put out.
With that in mind, however, there are a couple of things (specifically bugs) that we request, not demand, to be fixed. As we all know, our phone is affected by two things that I, as well as many other users, believe are two big bugs: the cpu spiking to 100% when touching the screen and the axis inversion bugs. Even with both of your kernels as good as they are now, these bugs hinder their true capability. Both of you might just be thinking, "Well, there is paolo's kernel, go use that." And as kernel developers, you have every right to think that and decline this request. But seeing how good both of your kernels are, why not make it better?
Please consider this, as many of us believe both of your kernels can be made better with these bugfixes.
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Agreed
PES2012 is hard to play with the lags but suprisingly Pes2011 does not have lag...I read once that Sippolo said its a 2 minute fix for the cpu spike bug
i think its ok to fix bugs even when most users can profit.
but, what about users who have new/other phones now?
i know from franco he's not developing on .35 currently because he has a new phone
and the P500 is used by his father - no way to develop on every day. the next reason is as we
all know, the P500 is a nice device for android beginners but most of us have seen
the new things like Nexus S, Galaxy S-2, HTC devices or other high end phones. I'm sorry
to say that but the P500 is some old and almost used in countries where such high end
devices cant be payed for, or, in most cases too - most users who bought this device
are very young (when i think how old i'm) - and, good developers have a real job to get
enough money for high end devices ... so, these developers cant support such low budget
devices all the time.
For me this means, i'm developing on P500 because its most funny for me to see all these
**** LG hardware bugs, but decided too that there is no way to develop on P500 the next year
too, so the next phoenix-android gingerbread will be the last release for the P500 device too.
I dont know what mik_os is doing, i think he has a real job too and no time to develop all
the time for this device ...
But, ok, these words sounds very sad for most users - i think, there are other ways or users
who take the developers work and can support such devices for a few months. for me it
doesnt matter if users are coming to me and asking how they can develop on my code.
Android should be open source, that means for me there is a community who want to develop
on - and not everybody is a real developer but can learn something, and that can only be reached
with help and understanding each other. Everybody can say "I want Gingerbread on my phone, i want
ICS on my phone, i want a hell kernel on my phone" - but these work cant be developed by google,
its the task for the community, so lets start here and now and stop crying for franco, fserve, mik or
others! Learn to help your self! Be a part of a real community!
I understand what you are trying to say andy, and after reading your post, i must say that i have to agree with you.
As much as I want to start developing myself, I have no idea where to begin. Just a question, which language must I learn to start android development? (is it java or c++? ive seen both languages mentioned but i do not know which one. is there one specific for roms and one specific for kernels? because i think i might give kernel development a try once i learn the appropriate language)
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Ah, this thread was short-lived
I understand what you are trying to say andy, and after reading your post, i must say that i have to agree with you.
As much as I want to start developing myself, I have no idea where to begin. Just a question, which language must I learn to start android development? (is it java or c++? ive seen both languages mentioned but i do not know which one. is there one specific for roms and one specific for kernels? because i think i might give kernel development a try once i learn the appropriate language)
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Developing on android doesnt mean you have to write code by yourself all the time.
Sure, its good to know about C/C++, Java, Shell scripting, makefile reading/writing and other things
but in most time we can copy or integrate existing patches. So, you only know about the bug and
where to fix it with what programming language. For the first time, search for the bug on google
and/or github - with some luck users can find a fix that needs only to copied in the local code.
To start developing on android, its a good choice to understand in details how android is working
and even a good thing is to know about Linux. On windows, you cant develop on Android OS so
you need at least a small Ubuntu/Linux Mint/RedHat or SuSE system with compilers and Java installed.
The next required knowledge is to know how Android is interacting with files:
What is Java for, what is C/C++ for, how Android is booting and what are JNI libraries.
We can open a thread so we can explain something or users can ask for specific things there.
andy572 said:
Developing on android doesnt mean you have to write code by yourself all the time.
Sure, its good to know about C/C++, Java, Shell scripting, makefile reading/writing and other things
but in most time we can copy or integrate existing patches. So, you only know about the bug and
where to fix it with what programming language. For the first time, search for the bug on google
and/or github - with some luck users can find a fix that needs only to copied in the local code.
To start developing on android, its a good choice to understand in details how android is working
and even a good thing is to know about Linux. On windows, you cant develop on Android OS so
you need at least a small Ubuntu/Linux Mint/RedHat or SuSE system with compilers and Java installed.
The next required knowledge is to know how Android is interacting with files:
What is Java for, what is C/C++ for, how Android is booting and what are JNI libraries.
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Thanks for the info! I will keep this in mind.
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We can open a thread so we can explain something or users can ask for specific things there.
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good idea (this sounds like sticky material)! would you like to open it? it would not make sense for me to open it since I'm not a developer
First of all i would like to thank andy, mik_os, franciscofranco, fserve, ciaox,knzo, docotornotor and many others who i may have forgotten for their impeccable work towards this community and for working their asses off. You'll are invaluable assets to the community and i could'nt imagine using my phone without you'll.
Reading andy's post i must have to agree with him because you devs have worked so hard towards our phone even though many of you''ll don't own one. Also you bared with the many spams, useless comments on your threads without saying a word. Also many of you have jobs in RL for which you have to work hard, and developing for a phone which you don't even own/primitive phone would seem to you as a waste of time and i can thoroughly understand that. Even though i dunno scat about developing, i do know that it is highly time consuming and resource oriented.
So as you'll probably know that the 2 most irritating bugs on our phone are the touchscreen driver lags, and the axis inversion bugs. Me, as well as thousands of p500 users can't thank franciscofranco and fserve for their dedicated work towards our phone and for developing two awesome kernels which made our p500 superfast. Any p500 user could match his phone's performance to our higher end phones and show its capablities off even though it being a low-ish end phone. I think i am speaking for the thousands of p500 owners all around the world and i would like to take this opportunity to request you kernel developers to fix these bugs and include them in your fanstastic kernels. India itself has the largest number of p500 owners all around the world and this phone is still popular as of today and if you'll didn;t know it is THE BEST SELLING SMARTPHONE phone in India. Therfore tons of us users would love if u fixed these two final bugs as they in my opinion are the biggest performance drainers all credits to ******y LG developers. As sweetnsour said, you devs have every right to decline this request as there is already the paulos kernel and plus you devs have worked your asses off to tweak our phones to its fullest extent and i don't think there may be any more tweaking left to do
However i do believe you devs collaborate in this one final project. Me, as well as every member of this community can't thank you enough for your hard work! We also have many talented devs [ciaox is 13 wtf? ] who can continue development of this phone. Looking at the dev section, many new roms have come up since mik's cm7 port and each rom outperforms the other[no disrespect to mik_os, he started the cm7 era!].
I hope fserve and franciscofranco take this post in regard and work towards fixing these bugs !
Thank you.
ps. sorry for my bad english.
@ andy572
Open ur own website and tell us more! I wanna build my own ROMs but i kinda fail it... With ur small free time? Can u exxplain?? It would be grateful to others!
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Uhm... Fserve has already patched his Goldenleaf Kernel with Der_Caveman + Waleedq + Sippolo's workaround to fix axes inversion and cpu spikes.
The related Fserve's kernels are Goldenleaf 111107 and 111108 (I prefer this one). Cheers!
if u didnt know, axis inversion is not possible to fix 100% because it is a hardware issue.........
there is only little you can do about it in the coding part
Yes, I know it's an hardware problem, however a workaround is better than nothing!
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for me it
doesnt matter if users are coming to me and asking how they can develop on my code.
Android should be open source, that means for me there is a community who want to develop
on - and not everybody is a real developer but can learn something, and that can only be reached
with help and understanding each other. Everybody can say "I want Gingerbread on my phone, i want
ICS on my phone, i want a hell kernel on my phone" - but these work cant be developed by google,
its the task for the community, so lets start here and now and stop crying for franco, fserve, mik or
others! Learn to help your self! Be a part of a real community!
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well said~
fserve's goldenleaf has added Sippolo's workaround
For me as a user, i would say THANK YOU to you guys for bringing this community alive. Thank you for your hardwork and effort that you put in. I would say that my p500 runs fastest than galaxy s stock 2.3.3. Im not joking as my phone is smooth thanks to you guys. no bugs for most of the roms i tested. I may not be a dev but i understand a lil bit. So once again thank you guys
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I agree with most of what Andy said, except the part that our phone is obsolete.
I'm not a dev but I found plenty of tutorials available that explained how to successfully compile a kernel from source and extract a .config from an existing kernel. I never found a perfect how to but by meshing various methods together I was eventually successful. After reading francos github commits I discovered the toolchain he was using which was the final ingredient.
From there I used a diff tool to compare franco and Paulos sources, this is how I found the camera flicker fix. When I saw big differences in the source I googled it and/or copied it over then compiled and tested it. It took about 5 tries before I found the flicker fix. This learning process took more than just a couple of hours, it was frustrating but eventually rewarding. I still don't know anything about C or Java, so Andy is right, read/research, copy/paste, trial and error actually works.
Considering that Paulos kernel has resolved these issues and franco hasn't means you should be able to use the same technique. These bugs seem to affect gaming the most, which I don't do, so I haven't had the motivation to look into it.
franco and fserve are more than willing to include fixes. fserve posted a test kernel that included my find within a day. Within a week franco had released a new version that included it.
Open a discussion thread, I think it's a great idea! This is a developers forum after all. Thousands of noobs should be able to combine their efforts to fix these issues. Let's make it happen instead of waiting for it to happen.
Thank You !!!
Suggestion : Why dont Fserve or Franco use and edit Paulo's V6 Kernel'?
is it possible'?
OT.. .
Mistakes are the PORTALS of DISCOVERY .. .
so Cmon.. . Lets commit mistakes
Why don't ask them yourself?
Btw: PaoloM70's 2.6.35.14 V6 Kernel source:
http://www.multiupload.com/18Y712HS9G
so there is no multitouch bug and screen touch lag in paolao kernel?
@sweetnsour . I feel like Ciao X would be a good person to ask about this one. He is young so I feel will continue to work on our p500. I could be wrong. But I also think you could learn much about your goal( which by the way I think it's WONDERFUL you want to learn to develope ) I KNOW I'm not cut out for it, and so I can be honest while I am no actually HELP to this community when it comes to developing. I AM. A HUGE fan, supporter and appreciate of all the passion and art and great works that come out of this wonderful community!!! Anyway, I digress CIAO CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THIS???
Optimus T
OpenOptimus (froyo)
latest franco kernal
748/480
Interactive X
Jonny Green
"im not a Dev but I flash alot"
TL;DR
If you want to help me, post on MY thread about my kernel bugs. --REALLY--
(or dev something, lol)
(or donate me, i really love that )
FOR NOW, i need people to tell me which is the WORST game to play on p500 using gbs v19 kernel, AND it need to be free (or not if you give me the money).
So i can test this touchscreen bug.
Please, post, on my thread for .32 kernels and on franco thread for .35 kernel.
Thanks
fserve said:
TL;DR
If you want to help me, post on MY thread about my kernel bugs. --REALLY--
(or dev something, lol)
(or donate me, i really love that )
FOR NOW, i need people to tell me which is the WORST game to play on p500 using gbs v19 kernel, AND it need to be free (or not if you give me the money).
So i can test this touchscreen bug.
Please, post, on my thread for .32 kernels and on franco thread for .35 kernel.
Thanks
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Thanks for weighing in! There are two apps you can try using:
For a game, try playing glow hockey (use the two player mode). When your fingers cross, you will be controlling the opposite puck.
To see what is really going on, check out the app "multitouch vis test". You will see the bug when you cross your finger either horizontally or vertically.
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EDIT: I was talking about the axis inversion bug, not the CPU lag bug. Not sure what the worst free game for that would be, but neocore would be good for testing this bug.
Hello all!
Long time lurker here on the forums, but first actual post. I was hoping somebody here might be able to help me with a question regarding Eternity Project's cpufreq hotplug.
The link to the original thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367255
Anyway, I have followed the instructions in the thread and have not exactly encountered any issues per say. I have set the appropriate script to run on boot and as su, and everything seems to be ok.
The million dollar question is this: When I open up setCPU to verify if all is working correctly, I can see the Eternity Project hotplug in the bottom left corner, which to me implies that it is operational, however in the centre of the screen it simply says 'governor moto hotplug', or some such effect so I am unsure of which is running. There is only one screencap on page 7 of the original thread, but it is using an alternative CPU management app and so provides an inaccurate comparison.
I am currently running J.Y.Daddy's GSM patched CM9 17.05.12 build.
Thank you very much in advance for your help, and I look forward to engaging more in this productive community.
Attached is a screenshot of my setCPU home screen. Notice the bottom left corner, and the central message.
Thanks again....oh wow, Sorry for Wall of Text.
I get the same thing.
Why dont you try benching it before and after? I had a small difference so also not sure if it is working
Hmm....must admit I know very little about benching. Could you recommend a starting point for learning? I am relatively new to this whole mod thing (had my XT910 since April and it's the first phone I've modded), but am very eager to learn as much as I can.
I'm currently studying IT, and am looking forward to being able to contribute to the development section, but you have to crawl before you can walk, ey? Havn't bricked my phone so far, so fingers crossed!
I tried downloading the version of the CPU app from the screenshot also and when I open that, it has 'scaling mot_hotplug' underneath the Hz counter, but it also says 'scaling eternity_hotplug' underneath near where the sliders are, so again, not much help!
Thanks for your response too!
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Hmm....must admit I know very little about benching. Could you recommend a starting point for learning? I am relatively new to this whole mod thing (had my XT910 since April and it's the first phone I've modded), but am very eager to learn as much as I can.
I'm currently studying IT, and am looking forward to being able to contribute to the development section, but you have to crawl before you can walk, ey? Havn't bricked my phone so far, so fingers crossed!
I tried downloading the version of the CPU app from the screenshot also and when I open that, it has 'scaling mot_hotplug' underneath the Hz counter, but it also says 'scaling eternity_hotplug' underneath near where the sliders are, so again, not much help!
Thanks for your response too!
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when he states benching i think hes just referring to the tests u can do using setcpu. i think its the third or fourth tab!
hope it helps
I don't think it works on ICS though, I've tried it for Gummy. And I doubt it'll increase benchmarks, since it edits the "snappiness" of the UI, whereas benchmarks test the MAX ability (correct me if I'm wrong).
You can try editing the thresholds and sampling rates/periods? It'll make your phone rather snappy, in exchange for a bit of battery life.
Thanks for the responses guys! It's a bit of a relief that I'm not the only one a bit in the dark about this! I suspect that Spectral1991 is correct on the lack of support for ICS with this particular mod, so I reckon for now I might just leave things as is and wait (not so patiently) for the official OTA of ICS to be released before I start hassling people for support, lol.
Just to confirm, does anyone else who has this installed get a smilar screen to mine when they open setCPU? I just want to make sure I am at least on the right path, and this is not just some user error on my part.
Thanks again guys!
Before to make this a debate. I must say that this is all my personal opinions.
I wish you all to know that I have probably flashed all kinds of roms, SEEKING to find some kind of PERFECT rom, but you all know that we as humans will never get and accept something that is perfect, as perfect. (just love be4 she dumps you xD)
So continuing with this thread, I wish to share my experiences with you ALL <3 and hopefully answer all of your questions.
Stock CM9 KERNEL/ROM
Pros: The best one i have tried with almost never changing Battery life, I love it and always return to this bad guy after a bunch of roms with bad battery life. You must get this!
Cons: Little to none customization when it comes to governors.
Siyah x
Pros: considered as the best kernel for almost 78% of the XDA(not really, hehe), they like this because of the multiple governors and for being one of the best kernels with cero problems, always updating. Apart from it, it also supports 2nd rom in recovery, so its perfect.
Cons: as all other kernels, in order to get best battery life, you need to tweak them, change voltages, and it takes time, without changing anything from this kernel, the battery life goes to 90% from 100% with only 4 minutes.
Other kernels
Pros: you get to try new kernels...Woohooo!!!
Cons:just not as good as siyah kernels without customizing them.
So I hope you find this as a little entertainment for both, me and you, with love, bye!....
Seriously, what's the meaning of this thread?
How about a new comparison?
This thread VS this comment
This thread
PROS -
•Something to pass my time
•Keeps a mod busy when they come along and close it
CONS -
•Threads of this kind aren't allowed on XDA because a simple debate can easily get out of hand
•It's a pointless thread and wastes peoples time
This comment
PROS -
•It passes time
•It's kinda funny
•Makes me seem like an arse
CONS -
•None
I'm a product of the system I was born to destroy!
awww
Jokesy said:
Seriously, what's the meaning of this thread?
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It really was a nice topic... just letting people know how wonderful stock cm9 is.
Sorry if it didnt make any sense for you :/
Well I like rootbox with fluxi kernel.
Pros-I like it,nothing else matters
Cons-None
Lol
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Ahhh... I dont have anything to say... But debate usually results in a fight...
Peace
Hit Thanks & It will Disappear
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Guys, do any of you know if there is an OC Kernel for the SGP311 around, or if there is one in development? If not would there be any devs kind enoguh to make one :fingers-crossed:
right now there is no public publishment of a OC kernel for the sgp311 or sgp312. now i am not sure if you are running stock or aosp. but the Carbon dev has a custom kernel that has lower mhz and voltage control plus other things. there is no overclocking on that kernel. but at the moment i have asked him if i can use his kernel as a base to add OC and few more governors thats i like :fingers-crossed:
Hi there.
I was wondering if you've made some progess on the kernel.
Thanks.
There has been a kernel released which allows you to overclock recently (up to 1838 MHz). It's right here. Go show the devs some love. It's for the stock firmware only at the minute, but he's planning on making one for aosp too.
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There has been a kernel released which allows you to overclock recently (up to 1838 MHz). It's right here. Go show the devs some love. It's for the stock firmware only at the minute, but he's planning on making one for aosp too.
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Yeah, i knew about that kernel.
But… well it looks like it's from an inexperienced dev and it doesn't seem to perform well…
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the effort from the device but it's not for me…
Pihkal said:
Yeah, i knew about that kernel.
But… well it looks like it's from an inexperienced dev and it doesn't seem to perform well…
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the effort from the device but it's not for me…
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I've been running it and i get the exact same battery life, yet i get a 10322 score on quadrant. I don't seem how it's not performing well...
r1ntse said:
I've been running it and i get the exact same battery life, yet i get a 10322 score on quadrant. I don't seem how it's not performing well...
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Well, if you read the (very short) thread it states that the performance is really bad.
At what frequency are you getting this score?
I'm getting 76xx on Quadrant, all stock speeds.
I still have a locked bootloader and am only willing to unlock if there's a good reason for it, like let's say DoomLord's kernel but since he stopped developing for the SGP311 and there's no other experienced dev I'm thinking it's not worth it.
But that's just my opinion.
We really need some good devs for the device, I mean come on, it's a great tablet!