Wireless Networks setting still use battery ? - HTC EVO 3D

Do you guys have "Use wireless settings" checked in settings? I know before that it supposedly drained your battery. I have it checked so i can use it for my htc clock/weather widget along with gps checked. Just wondering if its really that bad for your battery

No one ? or anyone ?

If you are referring to settings/Locations I have them both checked. "Use wireless networks" and "Use GPS satellites" The htc clock/weather widget does use the GPS. It uses the triangle radio towers to pinpoint your location. GPS is used for a few of the apps. Google maps is one of them. So to answer your question having those checked doesnt use that much battery. Only the apps that need GPS info will.

cds36 said:
Do you guys have "Use wireless settings" checked in settings? I know before that it supposedly drained your battery. I have it checked so i can use it for my htc clock/weather widget along with gps checked. Just wondering if its really that bad for your battery
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The wireless networks setting shouldn't really affect battery usage whatsoever. It simply uses your location within the Sprint network to determine a somewhat accurate location when your gps is off. I leave gps off except for when using Navigation, and leave the wireless network setting on always.

I have heard that leaving the weather widget set to "use current location" or whatever instead of having it set to a fixed city can use extra battery though, seeing as it will try to determine your location more often than not.

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cell location in google maps/latitude

Does anyone know how to enable the Verizon Touch Pro (VX6850) to update "My Location"/Latitude in google maps? Searching the google help i found that if you go to Menu --> Help --> About there is "myl: N/A"
according to google help this tells you if you are able to use cell towers to triangulate where you are. Is there a way to enable this?
Just enable the GPS and do it the REAL way
what if you are indoors and cannot get a gps signal like 99% of my day?
Yeah, seriously. I KNOW "My Location" works on other devices (saw it work on a blackberry with my own eyes in a verizon store) and I updated to the new rom that supposedly enabled gps (and hopefully the "my location" functionality) and I enabled "location based services" in the options dialog of the phone settings menu item. and it still doesn't work. Any guesses as to if this is a Google problem? A verizon problem? or an HTC (PDC) problem? any registry settings we know of related to location based services? anyone? Thread bump?
I wonder the same but for a different reason, I use Navizon and it records the cell tower data and gives me points for it, I don't get access to it with the touch pro, only to wifi.

Current location issue

Hi all.
To get to the point, my Hero picks up the wrong current location for all applications, including the weather, homescreen clock (when set to current location) and even Hoccer when set to use my mobile network. When it is set to use WiFi, there is no issue, but when it is set to use the Mobile Network, then it seems to believe that it is in Dubai. I am in South Africa at the moment, and more specifically, Cape Town. Obviously using WiFi, I get the location right down to my suburb.
This leads me to believe that obviously the local tower that my phone uses in the area is a reference to another location on the location servers. Now, I have two questions:
1) Does anybody perhaps know a way to solve this?
2) If there is no direct solution, is there a way to either A) manipulating the phone into reassigning the correct location number if it is getting signal from the tower that puts it in Dubai. In other words, IF tower ID is 452(Tower that gives out Dubai), then SET tower ID to 123(Another tower in the area). B) Is there perhaps a way to loge a fault for whoever controls the location servers to perhaps fix this issue?
Thank you for your help!
Padie
What rom are you using?
Just set your location maybe? Instead of using the auto detect
Same problem
Hmmm, it seems I was hit by same problem using MrBang ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5767289&postcount=347)
I have discovered that it is actually ROM independent. I have tried Modaco, CKDroid, KaguDroid, and MrBang. All the ROM's have given me the same issue.
I do set my location for weather etc, but I cannot set my location for programs that use the phone's current location, such as Hoccer. If I use my GPS, then it will chew battery, and take too long to acquire the location.
it might be that your network is not programmed to give out a location
Edit: have you actually turned the location enabler thing on in the settings?
I have the "Use wireless networks" feature on to detect my location, but I have kept the "Enable GPS sattelites" option off for now, because it wastes battery and takes too long to aquire locations.
MrPadie said:
but I have kept the "Enable GPS sattelites" option off for now, because it wastes battery and takes too long to aquire locations.
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Are you sure? I have mine on all the time. It is only actually used when a programme asks for it. Battery usage is OK with me, considering it is a feature full smartphone (so it is never going to be as good as a dumb phone).
And mine locks onto locations very quickly - ussually a few seconds. MUCH quicker than my old WM Touch Diamond

[Q] Connects to mobile network even when wifi is available

Hi all
Not a power user's dilemma I'm afraid but I hope someone can help me out...
What's bugging me is that my wife's LG-P500 incurs a small charge every day because, despite all the settings telling me it should NOT connect to the internet via the mobile network at any time, it somehow still connects - even when wifi is available like at home.
This wouldn't be a big deal normally but because she's on a pre-pay txt only plan her credit gets used up quickly.
My HTC Wildfire uses NO mobile connection at all when I have wifi available. Any ideas why this should be happening with our LG-P500?
Great forums by the way and I'm slightly embarrassed to be raising this probably noob topic here but I can't find an answer anywhere else...
Thanks in advance!
I haven't seen that problem on my P500, with the void echo ROM (the stock firmware didn't stay on the phone long enough for me to try that).
The option to disable it is in:
Settings -> Wireless and network settings -> Mobile networks -> Data enabled (should be unchecked)
Or in the drop-down menu of the notification bar.
I'm not sure about the stock ROM, but on void, an additional icon appears on the notification bar whenever the mobile network is active.
You could also try disabling the option:
Settings -> Accounts & sync settings -> Background data (should be unchecked)
Thanks. I already did all the obvious stuff you mention, having seen it work fine on my Wildfire... Any other ideas out there?
Might this be related to Location Services using Cell tower information ?
Could try turning that off anyway.
If you don't want to use the mobile network for internet access, than go to Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Uncheck Data enabled .
If the network allows you, you can also select Network mode > GSM only, this will also save you some battery. For example, I only use wifi to connect to Internet on my phone, and I also checked the option "Use only 2G networks" (also saves battery), I'm connecting to my operator only for phone calls
What is your Wi-Fi sleep policy settings? Try setting it to Never.
When the phone goes into sleep mode, wifi is turned off to save on battery. May be that's the reason mobile network is getting connected in sleep mode. If u enable wifi policy to never sleep that will drain the battery. You can disable the mobile network from th3 notification bar that should help.
Many thanks for the help guys!
Wifi sleep: good idea, I'll look at that!
Location services: good idea, I'll look at that!
Data enabled: unchecked already.
The problem still strikes me as odd because although I have ALL the same apps (and quite a few more...), I don't have this problem with my little HTC Wildfire...
Update: the only way I could find to resove the issue was to invent and use a nonsense APN...
Wifi sleep was already ticked as "never" by the way.
Thanks again everyone who gave advice.
Yeah, I've also had reason to use an APN named "fake" with a proxy named 'fake", although i use "Z" now to save typing, LOL.
This is one of many things i would do when changing SIMs. I have had one SIM and phone that always set a new APN and this ended up costing me a few bucks in data fees before I re-changed the APN info.
I would also disable the data services, make sure WiFi was on (to provide priority data access) AND enable airplane mode.
Anyway, your experience has inspired me to check more deeply about my data usage. I don't like the idea of my phone doing data without my knowledge while it's in standy.
I prefer to manually choose which connection I would like to use, so if I'm using my data plan such as when I'm out, I go to notification and enable data. I only get 200mb a month so its easier for me than to always keep networks on even when I'm not using them. It also saves on the battery as well.
EDIT: you can check your data usage using 3g watchdog app, find it in android market
It easy to solve. Just install APNdroid
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.code.apndroid
It also has a widget. Works very well.

[POLL] Do you enable "Use wireless networks" under location settings?

Simple poll. Do you have "Use Wireless Networks" enabled, or not? Feel free to post why or why not... battery life concerns? Privacy concerns?
No. Privacy/tinfoil hat concerns.
Nope. It serves as a battery drain and privacy issues. I dont see any reason to use it since I dont use Facebook or Foresquare checkins.
Yes I do. I am always near a charging solution so battery life is no concern to me. Also, I wanna meet the aliens...
Red5 said:
Nope. It serves as a battery drain and privacy issues. I dont see any reason to use it since I dont use Facebook or Foresquare checkins.
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Same, though I rarely use FB check ins if I go somewhere special with the lady and want to have bragging rights with friends.
Noone uses it to automatically update weather locations?
godefroi said:
Noone uses it to automatically update weather locations?
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What's the point? I know where I'm going to be before I go there.
I use it for tasker, have it set to turn on wifi when I'm near home.
It checked ON by default, so yes, I am keeping it as default.
I don't deal with social networking sites but using it for weather update and GMaps.
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I use it for tasker, have it set to turn on wifi when I'm near home.
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I use Llama to do the same thing. Llama uses cell tower IDs to know where you are instead of polling WiFi or GPS... result=negligible battery drain overhead.
jazzboyrules said:
I use Llama to do the same thing. Llama uses cell tower IDs to know where you are instead of polling WiFi or GPS... result=negligible battery drain overhead.
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Isn't that what "use wireless networks" does?. I've got my GPS disabled and obviously my wifi is too, so it's just using towers to calculate general location
I have mine turned on, as I use the navigation feature and I like my weather to be updated regularly, although the widget seems to be a tad touchy. Still, with the battery life I'm getting right now, I don't mind it one bit.
i leave it on. I dont notice any additional battery drain and my GPS locks on faster (may have been a coincidence though)
I leave it enabled. I find it cumbersome to turn it on whenever I need to use an app that needs location, and I travel enough to not just set it to my current location. I keep a close eye on related wakelocks and wakeups.
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Isn't that what "use wireless networks" does?. I've got my GPS disabled and obviously my wifi is too, so it's just using towers to calculate general location
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"use wireless networks" makes use of the WiFi or the cell information.
But that option being on, ANY capable app can run services to get your location.
Llama can be configured to strictly rely on only cell data.
For my case: with the use of Llama and "use wireless networks" disabled, I know that no app other than Llama is doing location fetching in the background.
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"use wireless networks" makes use of the WiFi or the cell information.
But that option being on, ANY capable app can run services to get your location.
Llama can be configured to strictly rely on only cell data.
For my case: with the use of Llama and "use wireless networks" disabled, I know that no app other than Llama is doing location fetching in the background.
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Ohhh I gotcha! Wasn't aware Llama was able to restrict the apps that use it vs how the one built into the OS will let any app use it. Thanks for the clarification!
jazzboyrules said:
"use wireless networks" makes use of the WiFi or the cell information.
But that option being on, ANY capable app can run services to get your location.
Llama can be configured to strictly rely on only cell data.
For my case: with the use of Llama and "use wireless networks" disabled, I know that no app other than Llama is doing location fetching in the background.
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Droidwall is useful to limit what apps can use data.
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Droidwall is useful to limit what apps can use data.
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Can Droidwall be configured to block only background data access by an app? I haven't used it but from its description in Store, it looks like it totally blocks an app from network access.
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jazzboyrules said:
Can Droidwall be configured to block only background data access by an app? I haven't used it but from its description in Store, it looks like it totally blocks an app from network access.
Sent from myphone.
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I don't think so, but it has a widget that allows you to quickly disable it.
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
jazzboyrules said:
Can Droidwall be configured to block only background data access by an app? I haven't used it but from its description in Store, it looks like it totally blocks an app from network access.
Sent from myphone.
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No, it can not limit background. It can only block apps from using data; through wifi and/or mobile data.

[Q] Android won't use geo location of my wifi

Hey,
so I've got this weird problem where Android apparently ignores the location of my wifi. But let me explain:
Whenever I'm at home google now suggests that my current location is not where I currently am but rather 10 to 15 miles away from my home address.
That is kind of annoying because I get wrong weather updates, location based reminders will not work on my home address and my location history is a complete mess.
Android primarily uses these three methods for checking on your location:
- gps
- cell towers
- wifi
am I right?
So I did some tests:
1. Testing gps
In location settings I checked "Device only" (so that it would only use gps for determining my location) and opened maps
-> works flawlessly
2. Testing wifi
In location settings I checked "Battery saving" (only wifi and mobile networks). And activated airplane mode to ensure that it could not use mobile networks for location.
Reboot (any kind of "location cache" should then be wiped, I guess).
-> works flawlessly
3. Testing cell towers (mobile networks)
In location settings I checked "Battery saving" (only wifi and mobile networks) and then disabled wifi. In advanced wifi settings I unchecked "Scanning always available" (so that it could not scan for wifi networks even though I disabled wifi).
Reboot (any kind of "location cache" should then be wiped, I guess).
-> does not work flawlessly. It determines the wrong location (that google now always uses).
I live in a more rural part of the country so it makes perfect sense that mobile networks cannot determine my exact location, but why would Android ignore the wifi location (as we have seen, it knows where my wifi is located, otherwise it could not have shown me my correct location in test 2), when I'm signed in on the wifi network?
I tested this on two different devices (Moto X stock / HTC One S with CM 11).
Is there anything I could do?
*bumping
No one knows?
Could someone (who preferably lives on countryside, lol) try to reproduce this or tell me if this is how android is supposed to work (this wouldn't make any sense to me, though).
// This is the right board for this kind of question, isn't it? If not, feel free to move this thread :>
*bump
I still have no idea why this is happening.
If this is the wrong board please tell me or move the thread.
Have you ever had a GPS lock while being connected to the WLAN network? I would assume Google learns the MAC addresses and WLAN SSIDs and correlates them to your location ...
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GarryKG said:
Have you ever had a GPS lock while being connected to the WLAN network? I would assume Google learns the MAC addresses and WLAN SSIDs and correlates them to your location ...
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Yes. I'm using maps quite frequently (with gps enabled ofc).
But I am pretty sure google already knows the correct location of my wfi, since when I activate airplane mode and check "Battery saving" (only wifi and mobile networks are being used for location) in location settings, my correct location is determined. Since the airplane mode is activated it means that my phone can only use wifi for determining my location.
But as soon as I disable airplane mode my location is wrong again.
So I would conclude that, although google knows the correct location of my wifi, it just prioritizes mobile networks for some reason. Which is driving me insane.
*bümp
*bump
This is still bugging me. I mean I can't be the only one.
*bamp
The problem is still existent and is bugging me.
The forums look different now.
*bomp
I wish someone knew what causes this behavior.
*bemp
Even after all this time the problem still exists.
bömp
No answers
bämp.
So I guess there is no solution?
Anyway, I will keep bumping this thread but less frequent.
*bumping every once in a while.

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