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Will the Evo3d do data & talk at the same time (similar to thunderbird)? - not on 4g?
Hi,
I heard that the Thunderbird from verizon can do voice & data at the same time over 3g. Is that the case with the Evo3d?
Thanks,
Rich
RichTJ99 said:
Hi,
I heard that the Thunderbird from verizon can do voice & data at the same time over 3g. Is that the case with the Evo3d?
Thanks,
Rich
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only if sprint evolves to svdo
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Is that something that is being rolled out?
No, I think he meant the Thunderbolt and no, there won't be talk and web at the same time. Sprints network won't allow it.
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user7618 said:
No, I think he meant the Thunderbolt and no, there won't be talk and web at the same time. Sprints network won't allow it.
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ah that sucks i thought we could do that while talking on the phone..
adrian_nene16 said:
ah that sucks i thought we could do that while talking on the phone..
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The only ones I know that can is AT&T.
user7618 said:
The only ones I know that can is AT&T.
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Pretty sure it's a GSM thing... Tmo also...
Tmo can too, its a gsm thing, the bolt can do it bc it has a sim card. Idk if it can do it on 3g tho
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Eat it iPhone said:
Tmo can too, its a gsm thing, the bolt can do it bc it has a sim card. Idk if it can do it on 3g tho
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The thunderbolt having a sim card is for lte only and has nothing to do with being able to do data and voice at the same time when only on 3g. The thunderbolt utilizes svdo technology on verizons cdma network which allows voice and data simultaneously on a cdma network. Sprint is fully capable of implementing the same tech but will they is the magical question.
Never said the sim card allowed 3g n voice, its the reason it can LTE and voice. I followed that by stating Idk if it can do 3g n voice
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why are people say the evo 3d cant/wont when the evo can?
The Thunderbolt can do simultaneous voice/data over 3G (SVDO). From what I've read it has one of the first qualcomm processors that allows this with CDMA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994994&highlight=svdo
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1695462-Svdo
I think the question is whether the Evo 3D's processor is SVDO-capable and also if Sprint/HTC also enabled SVDO through software. popular nobody can probably chime in with more insight.
I've also read that the Evo Shift's processor can do SVDO but it is not enabled for whatever reason.
Because the Evo can't. You might want to try that some time.
jersey221 said:
why are people say the evo 3d cant/wont when the evo can?
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Not trying to be rude but what part of "while not on 4g" don't you understand?
wintrxtrem said:
The Thunderbolt can do simultaneous voice/data over 3G (SVDO). From what I've read it has one of the first qualcomm processors that allows this with CDMA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994994&highlight=svdo
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1695462-Svdo
I think the question is whether the Evo 3D's processor is SVDO-capable and also if Sprint/HTC also enabled SVDO through software. popular nobody can probably chime in with more insight.
I've also read that the Evo Shift's processor can do SVDO but it is not enabled for whatever reason.
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It has to be supported on the network as well. With verizon, svdo isn't fully supported or available on their entire network but it is available in a lot of markets.
quietstorm said:
It has to be supported on the network as well. With verizon, svdo isn't fully supported or available on their entire network but it is available in a lot of markets.
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According to the Qualcomm slides from the howardforums link I posted "Simultaneous active 1X voice and EV-DO data, sometimes referred to as SVDO, is a new standard-independent device feature that significantly enhances the user experience without impacting the infrastructure side."
Sounds like the network has nothing to do with it.
i can talk and use the internet over wifi on my evo, but i know for sure it wont work over 3g.... thats okay though!
wintrxtrem said:
According to the Qualcomm slides from the howardforums link I posted "Simultaneous active 1X voice and EV-DO data, sometimes referred to as SVDO, is a new standard-independent device feature that significantly enhances the user experience without impacting the infrastructure side."
Sounds like the network has nothing to do with it.
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It still requires internal testing on the network side, but it's all software. Sprint have a few pre-production devices with the SVDO chipset included, but those devices will most likely be available when Network Vision is out. The EVO 3D doesn't include it at this time, and only the software is being worked on right now.
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I want to buy a new android phone that will run on 4g network as i plan to use the phone for more than 1 year. Also, does the phone have NFC as well?
Thanks,
Barry
lochunwa said:
I want to buy a new android phone that will run on 4g network as i plan to use the phone for more than 1 year. Also, does the phone have NFC as well?
Thanks,
Barry
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http://www.htc.com/us/search?q=&p=4778&t=all
HTC EVO 3D (Rogers)
Voici le nouveau HTC EVOMC 3D.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/evo3d-rogers
It appears HTC used to have the EVO 3D for rogers listed separately but the links in HTC's own search results don't work! Not sure why the pulled/moved their EVO 3D rogers page.
I'm not sure about the 4G as I can't seem to find HTC's official specs, but I'm pretty sure the phone won't have NFC. On the android blog sites I glanced through, didn't see any mention of NFC for the EVO 3D.
Although, I have read there will be some aftermarket companies providing NFC support as an add-on. NFC is a really thin piece of technology that can fit under the back battery cover, which is also how it is implemented on my NS4G. Although I haven't ever really used it yet and I'm in NYC, supposedly support will be coming soon from retailers, etc.
Yeah, they also seem to have taken down (or never put up) the Rogers EVO 3D discussion forum either.
The Rogers EVO 3D is not an LTE phone, according to the Rogers rep at the sore where I bought mine. Which is somewhat disappointing as I live in Ottawa where LTE is being tested. He stated that Rogers doesn't actually have any LTE phones available currently, and the first should show up in September.
As such, the EVO 3D is not a 4G phone on Rogers.
Despite that, when connected to the Rogers HSDPA+ network, the phone will show "4G" on the statusbar, confusing things.
Need to go to the Canada site to get the Rogers phone
http://www.htc.com/ca/products/evo3d-rogers
No LTE
They recently said that if other networks call HSDPA+ a 4G network, they will as well...
saltorio said:
Yeah, they also seem to have taken down (or never put up) the Rogers EVO 3D discussion forum either.
The Rogers EVO 3D is not an LTE phone, according to the Rogers rep at the sore where I bought mine. Which is somewhat disappointing as I live in Ottawa where LTE is being tested. He stated that Rogers doesn't actually have any LTE phones available currently, and the first should show up in September.
As such, the EVO 3D is not a 4G phone on Rogers.
Despite that, when connected to the Rogers HSDPA+ network, the phone will show "4G" on the statusbar, confusing things.
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Mnemoch said:
They recently said that if other networks call HSDPA+ a 4G network, they will as well...
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Yet another reason the CRTC needs to kick the collective asses of our telecom oligopoly. HSDPA+ and 4G are two very different things, and calling one the other just confuses things, especially when people read/hear about 4G in other countries (where they actually mean WiMax or LTE).
I'm rooted on ice cream sandwhich rom, sense 3.6
Basically my 4g connection is very poor, if and when it does work, its slow. It is probably related to my 4g coverage area, but I don't remember it being this bad. I went from an evo 4g, to an iphone 4, and now to the evo 3d, so I don't remember my previous 4g experience. Besides from coverage, can it be related to the rom I installed (cool ics)? Is there a way to fix or diagnose it?
thanks
-noah
noahsarky said:
I'm rooted on ice cream sandwhich rom, sense 3.6
Basically my 4g connection is very poor, if and when it does work, its slow. It is probably related to my 4g coverage area, but I don't remember it being this bad. I went from an evo 4g, to an iphone 4, and now to the evo 3d, so I don't remember my previous 4g experience. Besides from coverage, can it be related to the rom I installed (cool ics)? Is there a way to fix or diagnose it?
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-noah
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what are you talking about? There is no wimax 4g network. the network they call a 4g network isn't even a network. It's not even possible to drive a mile without losing your connection. look at your bars. any bars? Also didn't know your provider would actually support their fake network that they don't claim anymore. yeah. they won't repair any towers. they won't fix any issues with wimax. they won't do anything that helps and supports their customers. They don't care about you. they have never cared about you. Now if you want a 4G network. Go verizon. 50+M down. 12M up.
what do you mean runcool? Isn't wimax the standard used in our phones for ,4g (technology or network)? Is it no longer supported?
nvm. I did a read http://gizmodo.com/5847643/its-official-sprint-is-going-lte
Has wimax been shut down completely ? I still get connected to 4g here and there.
You might find a single tower that has their so called fake 4G network WHICH ISN'T 4G!.... But if it goes down. THEY WILL NOT REPAIR IT BECAUSE SPRINT IS CHEAP AND THE OWNERS OF SPRINT WOULD CARE LESS about you and I. Dishonest company. Refusal. I can see many issues with their LTE 4G network as well. So tell me.... Verizon can get 50M down 12M up..... why is that? why can't sprint do ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THEIR NETWORK!? Also why can't they just FLAT OUT ALLOW OUR PHONES to work like AT&T?!?!? meaning fix their 3G network! It would ONLY take a software update. lol. however, hint hint. the software update would make their 3G look like 4G lmao! because their 4G is so lame! hahahhaha
but to answer your question... wimax development/adding new towers/supporting has been shut down. they do not care about their WiMax and they never have cared about it. Yes I hope their CEO reads this comment! hope he reads makes changes in his crap company after reading this. BUT fact is that he doesn't care about you and I. he only cares about his own pockets. he would care less if he drags sprint into bankruptcy because he already made his millions on ruining a company.
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You might find a single tower that has their so called fake 4G network WHICH ISN'T 4G!.... But if it goes down. THEY WILL NOT REPAIR IT BECAUSE SPRINT IS CHEAP AND THE OWNERS OF SPRINT WOULD CARE LESS about you and I. Dishonest company. Refusal. I can see many issues with their LTE 4G network as well. So tell me.... Verizon can get 50M down 12M up..... why is that? why can't sprint do ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THEIR NETWORK!? Also why can't they just FLAT OUT ALLOW OUR PHONES to work like AT&T?!?!? meaning fix their 3G network! It would ONLY take a software update. lol. however, hint hint. the software update would make their 3G look like 4G lmao! because their 4G is so lame! hahahhaha
but to answer your question... wimax development/adding new towers/supporting has been shut down. they do not care about their WiMax and they never have cared about it. Yes I hope their CEO reads this comment! hope he reads makes changes in his crap company after reading this. BUT fact is that he doesn't care about you and I. he only cares about his own pockets. he would care less if he drags sprint into bankruptcy because he already made his millions on ruining a company.
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This is just hate speech and upset ranting. You make some okay points, but get over is what I think.
OP, you need to go to the dialer, type in ##DATA# and check your WiMax settings. If there is anything about vm or virgin mobile in the settings, that is probably your issue. If you know your msl, edit the settings (you can find the right ones for sprint somewhere on here) and that should make a difference. Also, there is a thread about 4G Hack in the Apps, Themes section. Check that out.
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This is just hate speech and upset ranting. You make some okay points, but get over is what I think.
OP, you need to go to the dialer, type in ##DATA# and check your WiMax settings. If there is anything about vm or virgin mobile in the settings, that is probably your issue. If you know your msl, edit the settings (you can find the right ones for sprint somewhere on here) and that should make a difference. Also, there is a thread about 4G Hack in the Apps, Themes section. Check that out.
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Actually. it's called facts. There aren't any legit towers. Even if you're right next to a tower... you get the same speed with AT&T. lol There is no hate or ranting. It's just rolling eyes at another large company that doesn't care about it's customers anymore. then again. They're all that way these days. sadly. oh well It's 3G speeds... not 4G. I can get better speeds by Morse code. lol
Profile update or get 4g data fix in themes and apps brp
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runcool do you have sprint anymore?
did the msl thing, but i couldn't get the msl reader to work on my phone , i'll look aruond in apps n themes
thanks yalll
I don't know, wimax is faster than ever here in mpls. Thanks sprint.
Does anyone know how to flash a Htc evo 4g lte to Ting?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060085
I saw the above post and hopefully it can be applied. Can anyone offer me some help? I am making the jump to ting, but I really don't want to have to purchase new phones when I have 2 perfectly good Evo 4g LTEs already.
Thanks
-Blue
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From my Evo LTE, yup.
I've been with ting since the beginning. Sprint will not yet allow them to BYOD an LTE device. As far as I know you can't flash lte devices either. Drove me mad trying to do it. No ting user has flashed an evo lte and I'm fairly active on the forum.
I know where your coming from. Ting is awesome and will be more so once they can BYOD lte phones.
I'm on a white ting evo lte now. You can buy mine if you want and I'll go back to my beloved s2.
I bought an Evo 4g lte converted to work on page plus with full 3g capability. The phone works fine as is, but I've noticed a large difference in the reception numbers between the two. Right now I have my old Droid X sitting next to my Evo, and the Evo has -97dBm, but the Droid X is getting -87dBm. This makes me wonder if sprint phones can't take advantage of the 850mhz signal from Page Plus (essentialy Verizon prepaid) once flashed over. Another possibility is that Evo phones just have worse reception than Motorola (which has been in the antenna game much longer). It might also be appropriate to ask if others have noticed a difference between HTC and Motorola phones reception on the same network. If the phone isn't taking advantage of 850mhz, maybe there is a way to help it "discover" this reception through clever programming tricks?
Thats not a very fair comparison. Your comparing different manufacturer devices that are flashed on networks they werent intended for.
Heck even just comparing a Motorola to an HTC device isnt a fair comparison.
To make it fair you need to compare like models from the same manufacturer. So 2 EVO LTE side by side..
The variables between the two are many when it comes to design, antennas, antenna location on device, modems and radios..
Many people have mentioned that motorola does seem to have better receivers i them..
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Thats not a very fair comparison. Your comparing different manufacturer devices that are flashed on networks they werent intended for.
Heck even just comparing a Motorola to an HTC device isnt a fair comparison.
To make it fair you need to compare like models from the same manufacturer. So 2 EVO LTE side by side..
The variables between the two are many when it comes to design, antennas, antenna location on device, modems and radios..
Many people have mentioned that motorola does seem to have better receivers i them..
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Thanks for your reply, your points are valid, but don't help answer the mystery.
Another question worth asking (preferably from personal experience) would be...
Has anyone noticed issues with poor reception on Sprint phones flashed to Verizon vs native Verizon phones?
Another piece of info.
many original EVO 4G users complained after they upgraded to an EVO LTE that reception was not as good with the EVO LTE as it was on thier EVO 4G..
and i think i read somewhere that the EVO LTE did poorer in FCC testing then other handsets.. so your on the right track when it comes to the EVO LTE not having as good antenna or radios or what ever combination might be for a handset..
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Another piece of info.
many original EVO 4G users complained after they upgraded to an EVO LTE that reception was not as good with the EVO LTE as it was on thier EVO 4G..
and i think i read somewhere that the EVO LTE did poorer in FCC testing then other handsets.. so your on the right track when it comes to the EVO LTE not having as good antenna or radios or what ever combination might be for a handset..
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I remember reading this as well, but it seemed to me that they were talking about 4G reception, which is irrelevant in my case. This is the best phone I've used to date besides reception. It's actually the first phone (droid eris -> droid x -> droid x2 -> EVO 4g LTE) that I've used that doesn't require constant reboots to fix problems. One of the points to this thread is to discover whether it's worth dropping cash on a ported phone. If reception suffers in general, I wouldn't recommend doing it again if reception is top priority.
Sprint is now running 800 and 1900mhz, Verizon runs on 850 and 1900mhz frequencies per wiki. This leads me to believe that Sprint ported phones will generally only take advantage of the 1900mhz sharing. However, another page I read titled "HTC EVO 4G LTE tech details revealed in FCC OET filing" shows that this phone is capable of running at 850mhz. I'm not able to post the link due to being a noob.
On a side note, I used to find it humorous that my droid x2 page plus phone would work in places where Sprint phones would not.
Yeah thast kinda misleading and confusing.
If a device is speced out for 800mhz its the same band plan as 850mhz..
Technically its in the 850mhz region but as a generic name they all it or label it 800mhz band..