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I will start by stating my goal: free sms. Yes I have read all the threads on it on this site and many more.
Here is the deal, I have unlimited data for 30$ with telus but text would costs me an extra 15$ per month. I have found a VOIP solution for sms (and talk but thats already settled), but I would still have to pay 5 cents per message and I am not sure it integrates seamlessly with the other apps). I have also found a java app that works with the ICQ servers and it works pretty well but I have to create a new address book for it and I don't want to do that, not only that but I have to open the app for every message.
Does anyone know a way of changing the server\address sms uses to change it for the ICQ info or someone who knows of an app that uses ICQ but is seamlessly integrated in other apps like contacts and outlook? (even then, outlook would not be a must, its mostly the contacts).
if this could be done, all I would need would be a reply adress to be set as my phone number and voila! unlimited texting would now be available.
So any thoughts on this?
oh and ps. I know of all the websites where you can send text messages and this is even worse than the java ICQ app.
pps. (and out of topic, I know) anyone in canada who wants a good voip provider with ssp info free and all that jazz and a 10000 minutes per week, check out brama telecom, 9.90$ per month with taxes and all.
julienrl said:
I will start by stating my goal: free sms. Yes I have read all the threads on it on this site and many more.
Here is the deal, I have unlimited data for 30$ with telus but text would costs me an extra 15$ per month. I have found a VOIP solution for sms (and talk but thats already settled), but I would still have to pay 5 cents per message and I am not sure it integrates seamlessly with the other apps). I have also found a java app that works with the ICQ servers and it works pretty well but I have to create a new address book for it and I don't want to do that, not only that but I have to open the app for every message.
Does anyone know a way of changing the server\address sms uses to change it for the ICQ info or someone who knows of an app that uses ICQ but is seamlessly integrated in other apps like contacts and outlook? (even then, outlook would not be a must, its mostly the contacts).
if this could be done, all I would need would be a reply adress to be set as my phone number and voila! unlimited texting would now be available.
So any thoughts on this?
oh and ps. I know of all the websites where you can send text messages and this is even worse than the java ICQ app.
pps. (and out of topic, I know) anyone in canada who wants a good voip provider with ssp info free and all that jazz and a 10000 minutes per week, check out brama telecom, 9.90$ per month with taxes and all.
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never thought about it or tried. What about using E-mail? I know vzw... it's like ##########@vztext.com... or something.
The e-mail solution def. works but the problem is that I would have to know each person's providor and I don't know how replying would work :s
Ideally it would be like the current VOIP where it just chagnes the adresses but everything else still works like if it was on the regular network.
julienrl said:
The e-mail solution def. works but the problem is that I would have to know each person's providor and I don't know how replying would work :s
Ideally it would be like the current VOIP where it just chagnes the adresses but everything else still works like if it was on the regular network.
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yeah. You would have them in your contacts with the ## as the e-mail address.
and how does replying work? what if someone sends me a message? I really like the whole threaded thing... does it go to my sms outbox or does it apprear as an actual e-mail?
julienrl said:
and how does replying work? what if someone sends me a message? I really like the whole threaded thing... does it go to my sms outbox or does it apprear as an actual e-mail?
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Being that you sent an e-mail... they will get it with a reply address as an e-mail. I believe e-mails are threaded by default. I could be wrong.
see that is waht I am trying to avoid, because then people are confused. I have many friends (and my mother... why oh why did I have to show her how to text) who like texting but are totaly clueless about anything to do with technology. Having this integrated on my end would mean that I would be doing all the tehcnical fiddling for free sms but people at the otehr end would not notice any difference. kind of like with the voip fowarding to my phone for free incoming calls, this way people just think they are calling me and have nothign to worry about.
Also by changing the servers used, it would be able to take advantage of the "send text message" option in the contacts menu.
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see that is waht I am trying to avoid, because then people are confused. I have many friends (and my mother... why oh why did I have to show her how to text) who like texting but are totaly clueless about anything to do with technology. Having this integrated on my end would mean that I would be doing all the tehcnical fiddling for free sms but people at the otehr end would not notice any difference. kind of like with the voip fowarding to my phone for free incoming calls, this way people just think they are calling me and have nothign to worry about.
Also by changing the servers used, it would be able to take advantage of the "send text message" option in the contacts menu.
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yeah. Not something I've tried. Maybe someone else can chime in.
well the person who created the voip sms app is probably the best qualified to pitch in on this, hopefully this thread catches his or her eye. Would you happen to know how created it so I can contact them on this?
Also, ICQ is already integrated in outlook on the pc but this is not the same thign as on the pc its just a toobar add-on.
julienrl said:
well the person who created the voip sms app is probably the best qualified to pitch in on this, hopefully this thread catches his or her eye. Would you happen to know how created it so I can contact them on this?
Also, ICQ is already integrated in outlook on the pc but this is not the same thign as on the pc its just a toobar add-on.
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Nope. I would say search the forums on here and on PPCGeeks.com. You might come accross his stuff.
well the creators of the VOIP sms for ppc and for smartphone were both on this forum and came up in my first search I knew I had seen their names around somehwere at some point. I sent them an invite to participate in this discussion, hopefully they can shed some light on this with their expertise.
anybody on this?
Hi all.
concidering amount of the brains (and I mean in a good way), passing those forums, how come nobody haven't find a solution to mark all unread e-mails "as read". At the moment I´m using POP3 account and I got about 30-50 e-mails per day + some spam. So it is quite frustrating either open every single e-mail or just to ignore green sign with number of unread e-mails in the home screen.
... or is it only me who will find this irritating...
anyway - cheers to everybody. Great community here. In the pass I was probably only WM user in my neighborhood, who could actually use it ...thanks to XDA, as all the problems I had, got answers here.
What about check all email accounts for new email solution?
You can delete em all... but may be that's not what you want. So if you don't wanna read them all, you should be able to change your POP3 setting on the mail server in such a way that it does not send you the spam. You can also choose from within the HTC mail app how many mails per day you want to download. I know this is not the solution but am just suggesting something.
I would like to know that too! It is really annoying to read emails you dont want to read or you know what is in the email.
Would be nice to have an application for it
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You can delete em all... but may be that's not what you want. So if you don't wanna read them all, you should be able to change your POP3 setting on the mail server in such a way that it does not send you the spam. You can also choose from within the HTC mail app how many mails per day you want to download. I know this is not the solution but am just suggesting something.
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just to clarify... my problem isn't the spam and not the quantity. As Im using my laptop as primary worktool for checking email etc, im using my phone only when outside the office, basically in the near future I stat to use exchange anyway (waiting the setup), but this is something at the moment that I would like to solve (as it was solved when using WM diamond). Just imagine, have read all 30 mails received by noon and driving out of office, when checking mail while driving, I got all the mails received/read earlier shown as "new". Simplest thing to do, when not using IMAP, is mark them all read, which should be something easiest tasks with WM phone but not with Android... I hope you understand ....
basically I have lot of unread e-mails. I will pick up the ones I think are important (based on the subject) and read them, all others I will ignore and I would mark them "as read".
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just to clarify... my problem isn't the spam and not the quantity. As Im using my laptop as primary worktool for checking email etc, im using my phone only when outside the office, basically in the near future I stat to use exchange anyway (waiting the setup), but this is something at the moment that I would like to solve (as it was solved when using WM diamond). Just imagine, have read all 30 mails received by noon and driving out of office, when checking mail while driving, I got all the mails received/read earlier shown as "new". Simplest thing to do, when not using IMAP, is mark them all read, which should be something easiest tasks with WM phone but not with Android... I hope you understand ....
basically I have lot of unread e-mails. I will pick up the ones I think are important (based on the subject) and read them, all others I will ignore and I would mark them "as read".
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OK, the bottom line is the mails you don't regard as important, you don't wanna read them ever... so why not "bulk delete" them??!! Cuz I imagine you just don't wanna see the mail icon displaying those mails as a green bubble. You can do so!! When in the HTC mail app where all emails are listed, press menu and select delete >> you'll see a X icon in from of every email >> you can select the ones you don't wanna read ever and then delete them all at once. I found it quite handy. But the Exchange server would be great once you get it. I just hope that Yahoo mail also becomes IMAP.
Ok you can delete, but stilll if you want to save some emails for later. This is a missing function.
Open GMail in your browser (so not the hero app):
Do a search :
in:inbox in:unread
Then choose select all.
You will get an option of selecting all mail in the search.
Choose action: mark as read
And tada, all mail is read!
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Do a search :
in:inbox in:unread
Then choose select all.
You will get an option of selecting all mail in the search.
And tada, all mail is read!
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hmmm.... I have no idea what do you talking about...
R U sure this is HTC Hero standard mail app, you have this "search unread" option and "select all" option? My phone sure as hell doesn't have this function.
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hmmm.... I have no idea what do you talking about...
R U sure this is HTC Hero standard mail app, you have this "search unread" option and "select all" option? My phone sure as hell doesn't have this function.
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true, true...
saphuis is probably talking about gmail app, not the inbuild imap/pop/exchange client.
This is a missing feature, we need to be able to select multiple messages and do stuff with them, currently this only works for delete ( Menu-delete )
I'm not sure, but if you don't need exchange, you might be able to use default android mail app, that might have the features you request ... quick google search did not help me to be sure ...
should have been more clear.
Had the same problem. Could only solve it in the browser gmail environment.
OK, another idea to solve the problem in its current state (although it is not an alternative to including the desired feature in the mail app!!) >> How about moving all the unread mails at once to another folder e.g. Trash?? That way, you'll still have them but won't see them in the inbox or as a green bubble.
salmanbodla said:
...moving all the unread mails at once ...
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Same problem - there is no possibility of multiple selection ...
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Same problem - there is no possibility of multiple selection ...
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There is, buddy! On the main Mail app screen, press Menu >> More >> select Move >> Select mails >> select folder >> there you go!!
salmanbodla said:
There is, buddy! On the main Mail app screen, press Menu >> More >> select Move >> Select mails >> select folder >> there you go!!
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Wow, you are right ! Nice one
well this might work, but it's lame. how can it be that this device is advertised as the uber-internet-and-mail-smartphone and is not capable of the simpliest tasks... this has to be improved, it's a shame.
i mean, we're not apple, so this should be possible without three major os releases, shouldn't it?
POP3 doesn't support 'Read' as a flag does it?
AFAIK, the App keeps track of the last message it saw, and downloads new ones since its last download - but there's no Read synchronisation between different POP3 applications.
You need IMAP for that - or use Gmail to collect your POP3 mail and then use the Gmail app instead..
I have my HTC Mail linked to my Apple MobileMe account.
If I read, delete, not read a message on the Hero, this is reflected in Mail on my Mac.
Seems they are synced pretty closely.
Sorry, not in any way helpful here, but just wanted to highlight the fact.
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POP3 doesn't support 'Read' as a flag does it?
AFAIK, the App keeps track of the last message it saw, and downloads new ones since its last download - but there's no Read synchronisation between different POP3 applications.
You need IMAP for that - or use Gmail to collect your POP3 mail and then use the Gmail app instead..
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POP3 didn't have this option with WM as well. Issue here is not the difference between IMAP and POP3, but missing feature on the standard E-mail app on the HTC Hero (android op sys) to select all unread messages at once and mark them as read.
There are different options how to mark them unread and all these options are fine until you have couple of e-mails per day, but if the quantity of the e-mails is quite high, then all those options (like manually selecting each e-mail) fail.
So basically this is the reason I hate to use e-mail app and one and only advantage of Windows phone comparing to android at the moment. ... I hope this advantage of WM will dissapear soon.
Read my sign to know the ROM I'm on - I wanted to know the best mail client available on the Market. The stock client sucks! Have tried K9 but the UI wasn't appealing.
Looking for a client that supports FREE mail services like GMail, Yahoo, Hotmail PLUS Exchange support for POP3, SMTP and IMAP. The UI should be very clean - somewhat like the iPhone mail app or even the Blackberry will do.
Straight forward suggestions are appreciated rather than suggesting me to change my phone etc.
want also a good email app. The stock is decent but not that great.
Not sure if its the "best", but I settled on maildroid after trying a few of the options out there...
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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Not sure if its the "best", but I settled on maildroid after trying a few of the options out there...
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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I agree. Maildroid is indeed very good.
Its a bit off topic, but while looking to improve my mailing via samsung vibrant experience i found "perfect messenger". You can set it to whatever mail app you choose to use, and its a widget that you can place on you homescreen that lets you scroll through a list of 25 to 300 messages. You can have that incluce, sms, email, missed calls, calls, etc. and without having to even open any app its a really nice quick view of your incomings.
I'd also like a better email client. I've been using K9 just because I've never found anything better. I had tried SEVEN a while back, and while it had a nice interface, it was way too slow for my taste. http://community.seven.com/main.php
Maybe I'll give it another whirl since I'm on 2.2 now.
I had RoadSync back in my mt3g days. I liked it. Don't know if it's "the best"
Cant remember if it did pop and imap, but worked well with exchange.
in my opinion, MailDroid is your best bet.
Depending on the complexity of your configuration and how customized you want it to be, k9 will give you more configuration options... maildroid still gets the job done.. IMO
ymmv.. Best bet is to try both and see which you like.
Hi I could really do with some advise. I suspect my 13 year old daughter is being messaged by some pervert she has been talking to online. she forgot her phone a couple of weeks ago when she went swimming and got a notification of a message on Facebook which I checked only to find what was, lets say a message no 13 should get. I have deleted all her internet settings and her MSN and facebook accounts and she wont be leaving the house for quite a while, but she is acting strange and spending lots of time texting and deleting her sent and received messages as soon as she gets them. Could really do with some form of logging software or something to put my mind at rest and either beat the living ****e out of this bloke or forward his number to the police. Need something stealthy and free or really cheap as I have reciently been made redundant and all the ones I can find are very expensive. I tried stealth sms messenger but when i tried it on my phone it just forwarded blank texts. Thanks in advance.
forgot to say its for a sensation if that makes a difference
i would suggest sms backup which archives messages onto a gmail account.
i've used it for over a year without any problems.
it works away in the background but is clearly visible within the apps list.
Thanks gascomm i will have a look and see if i can hide it some way. does it backup both sent and received?
yes, both in & outgoing messages are saved.
am afraid i haven't a clue on how to hide it but there may well be apps in the market to do such a thing. best of luck in finding a full solution.
Cheers i will sort something out, thanks again for your advise
If u use a launcher like Go EX then you can hide apps in the app drawer. Best of luck
Thanks very much I will give it a shot
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So did it work? What did you end up useing to log the txt?
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i would suggest sms backup which archives messages onto a gmail account.
i've used it for over a year without any problems.
it works away in the background but is clearly visible within the apps list.
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SMS Backup is an amazing app. Use it all the time.
Try SMS Tracker Agent.
you can track sms messages remotely.
Any one know of a stelth kinda app that logs sms to sdcard? It just logs all incoming & out going
Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
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Any one know of a stelth kinda app that logs sms to sdcard? It just logs all incoming & out going
Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
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Bump..... any one? Any thing?
Rocking cm9
kingguff said:
Hi I could really do with some advise. I suspect my 13 year old daughter is being messaged by some pervert she has been talking to online. she forgot her phone a couple of weeks ago when she went swimming and got a notification of a message on Facebook which I checked only to find what was, lets say a message no 13 should get. I have deleted all her internet settings and her MSN and facebook accounts and she wont be leaving the house for quite a while, but she is acting strange and spending lots of time texting and deleting her sent and received messages as soon as she gets them. Could really do with some form of logging software or something to put my mind at rest and either beat the living ****e out of this bloke or forward his number to the police. Need something stealthy and free or really cheap as I have reciently been made redundant and all the ones I can find are very expensive. I tried stealth sms messenger but when i tried it on my phone it just forwarded blank texts. Thanks in advance.
forgot to say its for a sensation if that makes a difference
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try use arkyver(arkyver.com or play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arkyver.logMobile).
the application logs sms and call.
Anyone use Blue Mail as their mail app? Seems relatively new with only 10,000+ downloads, but has 4/5 stars in ratings. I dont want to use Maildroid with Ads and need support for Office 365/Gmail at the same time. It seems there arent very many apps other than the default mail app and Maildroid that support both simultaneously.
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Anyone use Blue Mail as their mail app? Seems relatively new with only 10,000+ downloads, but has 4/5 stars in ratings. I dont want to use Maildroid with Ads and need support for Office 365/Gmail at the same time. It seems there arent very many apps other than the default mail app and Maildroid that support both simultaneously.
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I use Blue Mail and I love it. However, I have an issue. Maybe I'm getting dumb in my old age, but I can't figure how to switch between different email providors. Any help?
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I use Blue Mail and I love it. However, I have an issue. Maybe I'm getting dumb in my old age, but I can't figure how to switch between different email providors. Any help?
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I've sorted it out.