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My contract ends on the 2nd and I've been comitted to getting the Droid X. I wasn't aware the Thunderbolt was coming out this month. I'm on a tight budget...should I roll with the X or wait for the bolt? Also...do u have to get a 4g data plan or could you just get a 3g plan on the bolt? I am not stoked on the limited dev options with the X so I'm worried.
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Get the Thunderbolt. Trust me, it will be worth the 2-3 weeks extra wait time. Better hardware, should be good build quality since it's made mostly of aluminum, and what's not to like about faster speeds? As of now there is no information on the pricing options for 4G smartphones.
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That's the thing I don't want to wait and then get the shaft by having to get a 4G plan. I don't need or want it. I need to sell my Eris as well to be able to afford the bolt.
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I would definitely get the Thunderbolt. I also was looking for a Droid X. My friend got an EVO and I fell in love with the 4.3" screen. Then I started reading about the locked bootloader and very limited dev options for the DX. The Thunderbolt is just going to be an all around better phone, especially if you want custom roms and kernels. I wouldn't imagine the 4G plan adding more than $10 maybe $15 to your bill.
Again, I agree with Omen. If you're looking for a decent phone with many dev capabilities, this phone isn't for you. This phone is better than that; it's top notch. Get a droid incredible instead. It just dropped to $100 with 2 year contract.
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Vzw store in Walmart just said the bolt is coming on the 10th to their store for 189.99 and no additional billing for 4G whether I believe all that or not Idk but ill wait until then for sure to see if that's legit.
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Vzw store in Walmart just said the bolt is coming on the 10th to their store for 189.99 and no additional billing for 4G whether I believe all that or not Idk but ill wait until then for sure to see if that's legit.
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No information has been sent out to third party sellers about 4G data costs. I honestly don't think it's coming out February 10, because that's when the iphone for Verizon is out......
Yeah like I said I'm skeptical. Walmarts staffed by mostly morons so I'm just hoping for a miracle.
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Yeah like I said I'm skeptical. Walmarts staffed by mostly morons so I'm just hoping for a miracle.
Agreed.
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I have the X i love the Phone but it does kinda stink that about getting custom Roms, like FULL ones with the new kernals and everything. From what i have been reading on line the 4g plan is going to be 29.99 just like 3g but you know verizon can change that any time lol The thunderbolt looks amazing is it going to have a impossible boot loader like the Motorola products have?
Talked to a VZW rep yesterday about our company phones and I wanted to also move to a new phone for myself. I asked about the TB and said I didn't want to pay extra because I don't live in an 4g area. I was told that there is no extra charge for 4g.
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I have the X i love the Phone but it does kinda stink that about getting custom Roms, like FULL ones with the new kernals and everything. From what i have been reading on line the 4g plan is going to be 29.99 just like 3g but you know verizon can change that any time lol The thunderbolt looks amazing is it going to have a impossible boot loader like the Motorola products have?
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It is highly unlikely that it will have a locked bootloader. It would be a first for HTC to do so as far as I know.
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Talked to a VZW rep yesterday about our company phones and I wanted to also move to a new phone for myself. I asked about the TB and said I didn't want to pay extra because I don't live in an 4g area. I was told that there is no extra charge for 4g.
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I've heard this several times from many people, lets hope it is true...I cannot afford a bigger bill.
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It is highly unlikely that it will have a locked bootloader. It would be a first for HTC to do so as far as I know.
I've heard this several times from many people, lets hope it is true...I cannot afford a bigger bill.
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A second considering the G2 and all that mess...
I'd go with the Thunderbolt. HTC uses better camera parts than Motorola, doesn't lock their bootloaders, 4G will be nice and shouldn't cost extra. I've had the Droid X since release and it's not been that amazing. I'm suffering (as are many others) severe reboot issues due to Moto's buggy .340 kernel and since we can't change our kernel... we have to continue to deal with this maddening problem.
I'm no longer a Motorola fan. Not to mention that HTC is usually a bit faster than Motorola on getting out updates for new software... and you'll get a front-facing camera with video chat!
I don't count Samsung phones... broken GPS and horrible software updates, plus a lack of Cyanogenmod... LG phones suck, and Motorola phones are too locked down. So, I see HTC as the only real player in the game today for quality, customizable Android phones. Plus, I like their aspect ratio for their 4.3" screens... not the widescreen size Motorola uses, which is too tall and not wide enough for me.
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I'm running the. 340 update and have not had one random reboot since ice update. With liberty applied and a couple of other tweaks its a great phone (DX) but it had very limited dev support because there isn't really **** you can ultimately do with a locked bootloader, it doesn't have near the support of my fascinate, and no where the support of my DInc, but with that said, at the end of the day, I use my Droid x for one reason. Battery life. I suspect the battery life on the thunderbolt wont be as good as the x, but it had great specs a great proccessor and more RAM, IT WILL BE A AWESOME PHONE. IM SO DRUNK I DONT KNOW WHAT IM SAYING! !
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Is this a serious question? haha.
It was ...I'm impatient as hell that why I put it down to these two phones. Patience pays off though in the phone world I've come to realize.
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some one will tell me that which is best please ... i like photon 4g is this phone good or just.....
Atrix isn't on Sprint that's AT&T, SGSII is good if you want a million roms, buncha dev support, and custom themes and all that stuff. But if you want a phone that is a phone, and works as such, with a couple really awesome Devs the Photon is the way to go.
What it comes down to is do you want a phone that is a phone and damn good at it or do you want a phone that is so so but you can tweak? I vote Photon myself. Just my two cents.
Yes, I also vote photon. I owned Atrix before going for photon. Photon is better than Atrix on radio & heat(never over 40 degree even playing games). Sgs II is so plasticity & don't like the graphic.
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If you are simply using a phone. Just like web, gaming, watching movies go with photon. Other wise you r playing with different roms go sgs2 good luck
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I own an Atrix and just got the Epic Touch 4g from Sprint yesterday, my buddy has a Photon I've rooted for him. Out of the 3 my Atrix seems the most trouble free (but its been out the longest) but if you're thinking about going to Sprint the Photon is the way to go, signal strength and battery life on the Photon has been amazing. My Epic Touch will probably go back to Sprint, Samsung just can't get it right.
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I own an Atrix and just got the Epic Touch 4g from Sprint yesterday, my buddy has a Photon I've rooted for him. Out of the 3 my Atrix seems the most trouble free (but its been out the longest) but if you're thinking about going to Sprint the Photon is the way to go, signal strength and battery life on the Photon has been amazing. My Epic Touch will probably go back to Sprint, Samsung just can't get it right.
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This man has the best statement ive read in a long while! a former atrix user, now ET4G user, and he says to pick up a photon. id shake your hand all day, lol
I had some usage of friend's atrix and now I owned the photon. We both are not from USA, i cant say anything about the signal.
Atrix has a lot of fixes already and several good firmwares, not so much like photon, but some awesome developers are working here and make it much better. I would vote for buying photon, I have very good feelings about using it. Actually was iphone 4 user before, but if compare with atrix, I would suggest photon.
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I would definitely get the photon, I have had it a month now and theres been 3 updates already. This is the best phone i've ever used, no need to put roms on it, it's great just like it is.
Motorola packs some good radios in their devices, his Photon will pickup a full 4g signal inside while the Samsung is still chasing it's tail looking for any signal at all. 3G on outlying areas acts the same, no service with Samsung and enough bars to browse the web on the Photon. I'm a smartphone junkie and I admit the Photon blows me away. The Samsung is faster and smoother but not by an insane amount.
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I don't think the E4GT even have cm7 booting yet! ... Photon if you into the quality.. Sgs2 if you want the looks!
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If Sprint, get the Photon. If AT&T, the Atrix 2 should be out shortly.
i just want play games and application thats i don want the custom roms ...and themes
and some one will tell me that every andorid software and games will work on photon 4g????????
Then get the Photon not the Epic Touch. And most of the apps work I think. Haven't run into any issues.
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If you're with at&t wait for the atrix 2
If you want TW and a good looking screen go with the Epic (2 offshore hehe)
If you want a fast stock phone that gets it right out of the box get the photon
Just gotta spite me don't ya? Lol.
haha yea well, thought you typed sprite me
I had no idea what was going on for a good 6 seconds
I needed a soda! Get with the program!
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Its all that product placement Drake puts in his ****. Now I want sprite damn it
Get the photon and call it MoPho 3000
Nice
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i just want play games and application thats i don want the custom roms ...and themes
and some one will tell me that every andorid software and games will work on photon 4g????????
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Well, I can add this as someone who had an ET4G and took it back, the Photon is one rock solid device. I've been running it about a week and a half now and I'm totally satisfied w/ the situation.
As for games...Tegra Zone brother. Built for this processor specifically and some of the best games available. Shadowgun is looking promising, though I don't really game, so WTF would I know.
Also, the Photon should be able to readily handle any app coming out for at least a year I would imagine, so you're covered there.
And just in case someone on the fence reads this who *is* interested in ROMS, I can't say enough about the devs working on this device. They are few, but their persistence and dedication is top tier. On the bar shelves of life, they are beside the Johnny Walker Blue. Loki, mrine and shabby have done so much work and above that (in my opinion) are highly interactive with the users giving feedback/asking questions which makes me look foward to each new development even more. I learn something new, even if small, almost everyday that I check up on the forums. I love that. Plus I don't care for over animated, convaluted neon puke themed ROMs w/ illegible font and acore FCs shatting all over my communcations device. That's me. YMMV.
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I just wanted to know what would it take for you to stay with HTC? It seems like most people on here dont like the galaxy s2 but always say that when sprint gets the galaxy nexus there gona get it. Me personally both of my lines are are eligible for upgrades and i passed on the iphone rush and galaxy s2. The 1st evo to me completely changed the way i did and will always look at a phone. Not the iphone or any blackberry but the evo4g. The evo 3d although wasnt as ground breaking still made me a happy htc customer. So i ask....what will HTC have to give us in there next major sprint phone to keep people from jumping ship to the galaxy? For me its basically just ICS and LTE. Possibly a camera as good as the og evo as well. So before anyone says it ill say it cool story bro....stop trolling blah blah blah....i just seriously wana know bc it seems like alot of people are losing faith in HTC
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Stop using ****ty cameras, stop using ****ty screens, use better speakers, change the damn phone design for once. They need to get it, yes the first Evo was revolutionary but that ship has sailed. Change the design on the phones and make them thinner and make sense optional. It wastes too much of the phones resources because of how bloated it is. That happens ill consider coming back to HTC but it's not likely so I probably wont. And FYI the camera in the Evo 4g sucked even more than the one in the 3D does. All their cameras suck that ive used.
Make Sense removable.
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They should make sense faster. I'm on mean Rom right now and its blazing fast. I don't see why HTC couldn't have made it as fast as that. And what everybody else says. Camera, screen, thinner. Personally I love sense, but it can be better
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Not planning on going anywhere here. Just waiting for the quadcore S4 chip HTC phone to drop for sprint personally. LTE modem being built directly in the die is interesting to me...
though I hear the complaints about camera, but personally I find it suitable for a phone, if they make it better, then so be it.
As for making phones thinner....im not on that boat here. Id rather have them the same thickness and size they are now. Holding those thin iPhones just doesn't feel right in the hand to me. Also when you go thinner you sacrifice the already slim battery life...
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Not planning on going anywhere here. Just waiting for the quadcore S4 chip HTC phone to drop for sprint personally. LTE modem being built directly in the die is interesting to me...
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Same here brother. I know what this phone is capable of and snatched it when I had my Hero.
I'm just hoping the development last just as long.
Im not to worried about a thinner phone myself because i always put them in big cases like the defender or ballistic. I agree with the speaker comment though....i never realized how bad it was until i heard my friends iphone playing pandora on speaker
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An HTC Nexus device.
HTC needs to innovate once again and get rid of the "cookie cutters", which have only slight differences. They should focus on 3-4 models across the board, ranging from entry level to high end.....their should be NO differences in look or features between carriers. This would also force carriers to focus more on improving their networks rather than flaunting that they have a "better" phone, which is what they should be doing.
Major (Android) updates in a timely fashion..... If we get ICS by June....and I do not believe it will be any earlier, that will make a full 8 months since source code was dropped to the open community. It is also well known that manufacturers have the code months before it is granted open source. With the expertise and resources that HTC possesses, 4-6 months is ample time to build and push an update....
Also i was on a service call and had to do service in one of sprints corporate buildings in fairfax virginia. A sprint tech there told me that the galaxy nexus will have face regonizition technology to unlock your phone. Hopefully htc has something similiar
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Same here brother. I know what this phone is capable of and snatched it when I had my Hero.
I'm just hoping the development last just as long.
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yeah the only thing that might get me to jump the gun early is depending on the details of when we will see quadcore from qualcomm in phones. The current S4 Quadcore chip is the APQ8064 which is paired with the Adreno 320 BUT that chip is geard toward more tablet and mobile computing devices rather than phones.
Reading more and more around it seems the most we will see at lease in the "near future"(this year) is the MSM8960 which is their dualcore S4 but its paired with the Adreno 225...
Think I read the time we'd see even the APQ8064 is around the holidays too. So maybe next year for qualcomm quadcore S4 chips in phones?
The dualcore S4's are real improvement though still having modem's built in the die and getting the improvement there no one else is thus far...
I am in the minority but I prefer sense UI to asop. ICS is no different. However that is a very small deal when it comes to which phone I choose next. I have the EVO 4g and that sold me to get EVO3D on opening day. While I stick with HTC? Sure but only if they make best product to choose from that can be rooted. They best step it up because gIII looking good and all it would take is Motorola to unlock and I'd possibly leave. They have me.....for the moment
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Also i was on a service call and had to do service in one of sprints corporate buildings in fairfax virginia. A sprint tech there told me that the galaxy nexus will have face regonizition technology to unlock your phone. Hopefully htc has something similiar
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That's ICS that has it, not the nexus. ICS just happens to be on the phone.
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Stop using ****ty cameras, stop using ****ty screens, use better speakers, change the damn phone design for once. They need to get it, yes the first Evo was revolutionary but that ship has sailed. Change the design on the phones and make them thinner and make sense optional. It wastes too much of the phones resources because of how bloated it is. That happens ill consider coming back to HTC but it's not likely so I probably wont. And FYI the camera in the Evo 4g sucked even more than the one in the 3D does. All their cameras suck that ive used.
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Those are all things that the Rezound has over this phone. The camera has been quoted to be one of the best available on a smart phone, and it has a higher screen density than the GNex because of 720p on a smaller screen. Design is different as well.
Oh ok....thanks for clearing that up.
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Never really had a problem with the form factor of the EVO or the EVO 3D. If I could get the same Sony cam that's in the 4s, better camera/camcorder software, like the 3D aspect, so improve upon that. 1080p recorder. Definitely must be more powerful, so either a quad-core processor or a dual dual-core processor works for me.
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I know a lot of you guys are lucky enough to have pre-1.5 hboots. If the next superphone from HTC is locked and everyone has to use the HTC unlock, would you still consider it or jump ship?
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An HTC Nexus device.
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I would like to see another htc nexus device... I wonder why Google stopped using htc for their nexus line.... Although I don't think we will see a htc nexus device once the Motorola acquisition is complete.
Uhm...try again. HTC did not make toe nexus devices. Samsung did....fail
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I would like to see another htc nexus device... I wonder why Google stopped using htc for their nexus line.... Although I don't think we will see a htc nexus device once the Motorola acquisition is complete.
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Hello all thanks for stopping by. I have recently moved and settled to a new area and I bought my wife's and my phone straight out so we can switch at any time (or kill the contract if we moved outta the country). My android phones thus far have been the htc hero, lg optimus s, and the evo 3D. I got the evo 3d last june because I thought that it'd be like the original (tons of support, the next big thing, a crap ton of of mods). Little did I know that they would keep a lot of the drivers closed sourced and we as a community would have a few fantastic deves but would also run devs away (not just talking about the kernel devs over the past year quite a few have dropped by then been bashed and left). So my big question to everyone and indeed what I am pondering is.... Jump to a SIII as HTC and Sprint abandoned us or give HTC another shot? Both phones will have the same processor but im worried about samsung's build quality ...however I dont want htc to get my money blindly .... or i can just wait...? I dunno ...lol what is everyone else's thoughts?
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Hello all thanks for stopping by. I have recently moved and settled to a new area and I bought my wife's and my phone straight out so we can switch at any time (or kill the contract if we moved outta the country). My android phones thus far have been the htc hero, lg optimus s, and the evo 3D. I got the evo 3d last june because I thought that it'd be like the original (tons of support, the next big thing, a crap ton of of mods). Little did I know that they would keep a lot of the drivers closed sourced and we as a community would have a few fantastic deves but would also run devs away (not just talking about the kernel devs over the past year quite a few have dropped by then been bashed and left). So my big question to everyone and indeed what I am pondering is.... Jump to a SIII as HTC and Sprint abandoned us or give HTC another shot? Both phones will have the same processor but im worried about samsung's build quality ...however I dont want htc to get my money blindly .... or i can just wait...? I dunno ...lol what is everyone else's thoughts?
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Ya know what? Screw HTC!!! I only got the 3d cuz I knew, or at least thought, it would be getting ics. Turns out, now I'm in the us on Sprint mind u, that I really don't think that's going to happen anymore and I'm not going to sit around and wait. Yeah I could've downgraded hboot and rooted but I just thought intentionally bricking my device was absolutely foolish and didn't trust it. So I got the gsII and within min was running a fully rooted Sprint ics leak so easily my 3 yr.old could've done it! And with the size of this screen, the super amoled display, and speed, and boy do I mean speed of.this device, I will never, ever, buy another HTC device again! Just my two cents lol!
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Ya know what? Screw HTC!!! I only got the 3d cuz I knew, or at least thought, it would be getting ics. Turns out, now I'm in the us on Sprint mind u, that I really don't think that's going to happen anymore and I'm not going to sit around and wait. Yeah I could've downgraded hboot and rooted but I just thought intentionally bricking my device was absolutely foolish and didn't trust it. So I got the gsII and within min was running a fully rooted Sprint ics leak so easily my 3 yr.old could've done it! And with the size of this screen, the super amoled display, and speed, and boy do I mean speed of.this device, I will never, ever, buy another HTC device again! Just my two cents lol!
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How's the GPS on the gsII? I've never seen any Samsung with decent GPS or signal.
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Ya know what? Screw HTC!!! I only got the 3d cuz I knew, or at least thought, it would be getting ics. Turns out, now I'm in the us on Sprint mind u, that I really don't think that's going to happen anymore and I'm not going to sit around and wait. Yeah I could've downgraded hboot and rooted but I just thought intentionally bricking my device was absolutely foolish and didn't trust it. So I got the gsII and within min was running a fully rooted Sprint ics leak so easily my 3 yr.old could've done it! And with the size of this screen, the super amoled display, and speed, and boy do I mean speed of.this device, I will never, ever, buy another HTC device again! Just my two cents lol!
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Sprint is the issue. They are the final step before ICS is released. Follow the order: Google releases Android to the manufacturer > HTC tweaks it an adds Sense > HTC sends to carrier. HTC is not necessarily the blame here. There is a few threads dedicated to the speculation of the ICS release. IMO, it's still coming, but, just from the timing of things, they most likely delayed it so as not to conflict with the release of their new flagship, EVO 4G LTE (pushing more people to upgrade to that).
With the amount of reading and diving in to other forums because people ask me about their phones or I have actually rooted their phones, I prefer HTC phones regardless of the Evo 3D's lack of official ICS ROM (even though there is a VM leak and three ports available for it, one of those ports is a fully functional HTC Sense 3.5, which is what I am running) and the HBOOT 1.5 [email protected] (even though it's also mentioned that having HBOOT 1.5, rooted, S-ON and recovery 4EXT is the way to go).
I prefer the Sense interface. It's my preference. I love the ease of rooting (in most circumstances). I've had my experience of rooting a Samsung Captivate. It was eh. It was easy to root, but, when it came to custom stuff, just eh.
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How's the GPS on the gsII? I've never seen any Samsung with decent GPS or signal.
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GPS works fine. My wife prefers Samsungs and has the GSII. We've used her GPS several times around Savannah, GA and locally where we live and around Atlanta with no issue. Actually performed better than my Evo 3D at times.
It's more about what you like. I've had the hero, og evo, and now 3d. I still have a epic 4g I got for Christmas and my experience wasn't all that great with it until cm came along. I despise touchwiz although its getting better. Sense does make HTC phones run a little slower cause its a resource hog, but I just love sense. I suggest looking at both and deciding on what you are more comfortable with. Both the s3 and evo lte are great
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I'd have to, IMO, that the HTC is worth staying with HTC. I too thought about switching over to the SGIII but in the end, I'm going to stick it out with HTC, as the EVO 3D was my first HTC device and I will say I'm a little disappointed with their support of the device. I'll give them another chance with the EVO 4G LTE and see what happens. After all, I plan on being a smart phone user for way more than the standard 2 yr contract and will switch devices in the future if need be.
HTC has great devices and I can't stand hearing "3d will not get ics"
It's been confirmed. There are processes that have to be done before it will be out. I have seen new phones coming out with ics yes, but how many older devices have gotten officially updated yet. My buddy with T-Mobile who still hasn't seen his update. People just don't have any patience. If your on xda u have the ability to run ics. Either do it or wait.
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HTC has great devices and I can't stand hearing "3d will not get ics"
It's been confirmed. There are processes that have to be done before it will be out. I have seen new phones coming out with ics yes, but how many older devices have gotten officially updated yet. My buddy with T-Mobile who still hasn't seen his update. People just don't have any patience. If your on xda u have the ability to run ics. Either do it or wait.
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Um t-mobile gsII just got ics last night and where and when did Sprint Ever say the 3d was getting ics? I've been scouring the Web for months waiting for word and have never seen or heard Sprint officially say this. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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How's the GPS on the gsII? I've never seen any Samsung with decent GPS or signal.
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Actually great! I mean I'm not in the dessert our nothing but it works fine lol.
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Um t-mobile gsII just got ics last night and where and when did Sprint Ever say the 3d was getting ics? I've been scouring the Web for months waiting for word and have never seen or heard Sprint officially say this. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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It's been confirmed for june-july release, we just need to be patient. The leak is pretty damn good so far though
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It's been confirmed for june-july release, we just need to be patient. The leak is pretty damn good so far though
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Yeah buy HTC ur right. But that's probably gsm. Can anyone produce solid evidence by Sprint though? Other than the video of a guy saying June timeframe which honestly just could have been that dudes long lost cousin lol.
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Yeah buy HTC ur right. But that's probably gsm. Can anyone produce solid evidence by Sprint though? Other than the video of a guy saying June timeframe which honestly just could have been that dudes long lost cousin lol.
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I love my photon, but there is that pesky unlocked situation. i recently switched internet providers and had to use 3g for a few days since im running the gummy rom. after the 3 days im ready to switch. i need 4g and the abilty to tinker with my device. this has been a great phone, but motorola has let everyone down. i will be switching back to htc starting with evo 3d. Thanks to the devs and photon members that have made hacking this phone fun and easy. im gonna miss it.
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I feel your pain, but good things come to those who wait. I imagine youll hate your 3D after being with the Photon. Seems to be the general consensus. Bad software is fixable, bad hardware isn't.
3D? are you serious? I'd get original before 3D if that is your opinion. But just like other poster, Im waiting it out!
My Photon still does 4G just fine. Honestly, I've never understood why people moved from 4G to 3G-only ROMs.
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I have an original EVO (now daughter's), EVO 3D (wife's), and Photon (mine).
Photon has clearly better radios. Otherwise, all are nice phones.
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My Photon still does 4G just fine. Honestly, I've never understood why people moved from 4G to 3G-only ROMs.
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I have an original EVO (now daughter's), EVO 3D (wife's), and Photon (mine).
Photon has clearly better radios. Otherwise, all are nice phones.
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i don't understand why people need 4g so desperately.
the only thing motorola lacks is updates and unlocked bootloaders.
i already have the 3d. it works good and they have great roms. i need 4g when i cant use wifi. its an unlock issue. it shouldnt matter if i want to unlock it. evo was the best phone ive ever had. for a hackalicious person like myself. the 4g roms on the photon just arent near as good as installing kitchen sink. i want unlocked options on a 4g device. btw gummy is the only rom that works perfect mms etc.
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theres nothing to wait for, motorola will never unlock the bootloader. i dont want stock ics. i want maxed out kernel pushing the device.
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Acvice said:
I feel your pain, but good things come to those who wait. I imagine youll hate your 3D after being with the Photon. Seems to be the general consensus. Bad software is fixable, bad hardware isn't.
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Forum someone that would on phones all day I can say that the 3d isn't nearly as well made as the original evo. I wish they used all the money they put in that parallax display for better build quality. I'm interested to see how policy changes at Motorola now that they are Google owned but I don't hold much hope that it will affect the current handsets.
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yea i have a 3d lying around. been devvin it till i decide to switch.
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i don't understand why people need 4g so desperately.
the only thing motorola lacks is updates and unlocked bootloaders.
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Because it's there, like ICS ROMs. It's a nice perk, but vs. 3G? No big deal. I mean, you don't see anybody posting speed tests about how much faster it is. My understanding is that it isn't much faster, just more stable on video. So maybe it's 3MBit as opposed to 1MBit or something. But again, nobody with 4G is bragging about the speed with solid numbers; until they do I wouldn't worry about it. Also, it's in what, two cities in America? Los Angeles and New York City? Maybe Chicago and Dallas as well? I dunno. I'm sure it's more than that but the point is, most of us couldn't get it if we wanted it.
Motorola will always get better signal than HTC, at least for now. They have the best radios; everything else is a compromise. Motorola usually wins on battery life, too. I just think Motorola makes the best hardware. Best software, that's another story. Blur is a dog, but I'm no fan of Sense. I think Sense is great for iConverts who need hand holding in the big scary Android world, but for me, I just want AOSP with the Google apps and a few others and I'm good. I will say that the Sense clock is nice, though. They can keep their weird ring lock, though; the one in CM9 is better. Non-Motorola smartphones are to Motorola phones what Hackintoshes are to real Macs. A nice try but not quite the total package. IMO.
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Because it's there, like ICS ROMs. It's a nice perk, but vs. 3G? No big deal. I mean, you don't see anybody posting speed tests about how much faster it is. My understanding is that it isn't much faster, just more stable on video. So maybe it's 3MBit as opposed to 1MBit or something. But again, nobody with 4G is bragging about the speed with solid numbers; until they do I wouldn't worry about it. Also, it's in what, two cities in America? Los Angeles and New York City? Maybe Chicago and Dallas as well? I dunno. I'm sure it's more than that but the point is, most of us couldn't get it if we wanted it.
Motorola will always get better signal than HTC, at least for now. They have the best radios; everything else is a compromise. Motorola usually wins on battery life, too. I just think Motorola makes the best hardware. Best software, that's another story. Blur is a dog, but I'm no fan of Sense. I think Sense is great for iConverts who need hand holding in the big scary Android world, but for me, I just want AOSP with the Google apps and a few others and I'm good. I will say that the Sense clock is nice, though. They can keep their weird ring lock, though; the one in CM9 is better. Non-Motorola smartphones are to Motorola phones what Hackintoshes are to real Macs. A nice try but not quite the total package. IMO.
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4G is Much faster, but I travel a lot and rarely am able to keep a 4G connection for more than 30 seconds or a minute or so. And more like 1G in my house, but I use 6M WiFi so OK. So, 4G for me is worthless.
But likewise, there is nothing in the custom 3G ROMs that excites me. I prefer stability over a few minor tweaks.
my gummy rom is super stable. i live in downtown seattle an my 3g barely loads facebook, but my 4g(when i sbf back to stock at random times) is blazing. faster than my home comcast. i might just flash this photon to boost so if im geting 3g only ill pay 50 instead of between 100-200 to sprint.
people say motorola has better radios but i dunno my gfs iphone 3g rules.
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I just had to chime in. My wife had the evo 3d, ended up replacing it 6 times for different issues, she was finally available for her upgrade and she got the SGS3. She LOVES that phone. She is on it night and day. She said it is a night and day difference in how smooth everything is etc. Just my 2 cents, but the evo3d was a poorly executed phone. The hardware was great (with the exception of the 3d camera) but the software was JUST not there and too slow...
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I just had to chime in. My wife had the evo 3d, ended up replacing it 6 times for different issues, she was finally available for her upgrade and she got the SGS3. She LOVES that phone. She is on it night and day. She said it is a night and day difference in how smooth everything is etc. Just my 2 cents, but the evo3d was a poorly executed phone. The hardware was great (with the exception of the 3d camera) but the software was JUST not there and too slow...
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Yeah, I have to say the 3D was a super turd when it came to performance. Idk exactly what was causing it to be such a dog, unstable sense and firmware ota for my wifes, I definitely would have took my og evo over it any day of the week... And it wad dropped on toilet, spiderwebbed screen, half a flash, lol! It was a flash machine, roms for days, kernels, devs out the wazoo, just a great phone. Unlock this photon I have now, locked up like Fort Knox! And I need 4g so that the way it shall stay... #goodbyemoto #hellos3/evolte
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Yeah, I have to say the 3D was a super turd when it came to performance. Idk exactly what was causing it to be such a dog, unstable sense and firmware ota for my wifes, I definitely would have took my og evo over it any day of the week... And it wad dropped on toilet, spiderwebbed screen, half a flash, lol! It was a flash machine, roms for days, kernels, devs out the wazoo, just a great phone. Unlock this photon I have now, locked up like Fort Knox! And I need 4g so that the way it shall stay... #goodbyemoto #hellos3/evolte
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I feel the same way
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I didnt go with the 3d i decided to switch to verizon. The lte is sick and i got the lucid for free which is better than the photon. Fast great screen etc. I do love the photon people so you should all get lucids or nexus so we can all stay lol.
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We were talking about Seattle rain the other night. One of my friends said there is a spice or some kind of weed substitute called Seattle rain. Is that what you based your name off of? Lol just curious
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Seatttlereign said:
I didnt go with the 3d i decided to switch to verizon. The lte is sick and i got the lucid for free which is better than the photon. Fast great screen etc. I do love the photon people so you should all get lucids or nexus so we can all stay lol.
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Lucid? Never heard of it
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Lol no i live in seattle and i reign down on mother&[email protected]:$ its my gamertag too. Lucid is a 1.2 dualcore lg phone great screen great phone fast. Noone developing for it i might start. I want the nexus but its hard to get discontinued. Im done with motorola
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Lol no i live in seattle and i reign down on mother&[email protected]:$ its my gamertag too. Lucid is a 1.2 dualcore lg phone great screen great phone fast. Noone developing for it i might start. I want the nexus but its hard to get discontinued. Im done with motorola
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How is the battery life?
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