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I've been using KaosFroyo, but I am wondering what advantages the other roms may have over this one. I read somewhere that one of them has Flash 10 working, but I do not believe it.
And does anyone have any idea on the progress being made on a Froyo with Sense Rom. I seen Kaos said he was looking into it. I really like using a Froyo rom, but I do need sense since it has Flash Light built into it. My reason for needing flash light has nothing to do with videos or games, but is a real necessity.
Please leave smart comments and jerks out of this forum. Answers and things that will truly contribute to the discussion and be able to educate.
The question you need to ask yourself before you ask this question, is what do you need that KaosFroyo doesn't do, besides flash, which isn't supported with our chipset.
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It's not about what KaosFroyo isn't doing, it's more about if the other roms do those things better. The other thing I would like to know is what separates the various versions of Froyo apart from each other.
And Flash Lite is supported by the Eris(it comes with the phone), but you need Sense.
i personally like CELB froyo because its very stable and seems faster then the other ones
smokedkill said:
It's not about what KaosFroyo isn't doing, it's more about if the other roms do those things better. The other thing I would like to know is what separates the various versions of Froyo apart from each other.
And Flash Lite is supported by the Eris(it comes with the phone), but you need Sense.
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Fair enough, but that's a pretty loaded question.
You don't need flashlite for KaosFroyo, just use SkyFire, enables flash video on several sites. Same limitations as Flashlite/Sense basically.
oh and i also like to run nonsensikal sometimes just because of the themed versions he made with it. theyre both pretty nice
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mackeydesigns said:
Fair enough, but that's a pretty loaded question.
You don't need flashlite for KaosFroyo, just use SkyFire, enables flash video on several sites. Same limitations as Flashlite/Sense basically.
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Not totally correct. While SkyFire does solve the video issues, my college is online and I have to access their website. Their site requires Flash. Flash Lite was good enough to access their site. SkyFire does not solve that problem. That problem will exist until there is a Sense based Froyo Rom.
I really just want to know what separates the Froyo roms apart from each other though. As with 2.1 roms, it all depends on one's preference on what one uses. I just wish that I could use the same sd card for both 2.1 and 2.2 so I could go back and forth between roms without either changing sd cards or formatting them everytime.
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Not totally correct. While SkyFire does solve the video issues, my college is online and I have to access their website. Their site requires Flash. Flash Lite was good enough to access their site. SkyFire does not solve that problem. That problem will exist until there is a Sense based Froyo Rom.
I really just want to know what separates the Froyo roms apart from each other though. As with 2.1 roms, it all depends on one's preference on what one uses. I just wish that I could use the same sd card for both 2.1 and 2.2 so I could go back and forth between roms without either changing sd cards or formatting them everytime.
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You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
sk842018 said:
You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
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would I be able to save data on it from other things if I do that. I have a backup of both Ivans and KaosFroyo on mine, but I can't save regular data when I go back and forth. for the time being, I copied all the data that I use when using Ivan;s over to my computer and formatted sd card to save data, and use apps2sd with froyo.
I don't know if its a conspiracy or not, but I think Google set it up differently to increase sd card sales, lol
I also flash back and forth between 2.1 and 2.2 frequently (Senseable and KaosFroyo) without changing our modifying my SD card. I have noticed no problems, but I don't use apps2sd on 2.1.
As far as flash 10.1 on the Eris not being supported, I don't see why it can't be done on Froyo, since it's already working on 2.1. It's a little slow but it's pretty good.
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when I first installed KaosFroyo, it wouldn't recognize my sd card. so i had to take all my saved items off the sd card and put on my computer and reformat my sd card. but I have not went back to 2.1 since I went KaosFroyo, but Im about to, so we'll see how it works out for me.
jhart15063 said:
i personally like CELB froyo because its very stable and seems faster then the other ones
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What does CELB even mean? Im running a CELB Rom and I don't know why they call it that.
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First of all, to the Original Poster: This thread probably belongs in the Q & A section, not here in the Development section.
sk842018 said:
You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
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If you use Apps2SD with a 2.1 ROM, you can't just throw on a Froyo ROM. Froyo doesn't like the formatting of the SD card when it's partitioned. I am now stuck on Sense 2.1 (I used to switch back to Froyo 2.2 for the weekends, but without a second SD card, that's relaly inefficient). Froyo, if you restore an old nand backup, tells you you have to format your SD card.
Nomad145 said:
What does CELB even mean? Im running a CELB Rom and I don't know why they call it that.
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Cyanogen Eris Lightning Bolt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723263
pkopalek said:
First of all, to the Original Poster: This thread probably belongs in the Q & A section, not here in the Development section.
If you use Apps2SD with a 2.1 ROM, you can't just throw on a Froyo ROM. Froyo doesn't like the formatting of the SD card when it's partitioned. I am now stuck on Sense 2.1 (I used to switch back to Froyo 2.2 for the weekends, but without a second SD card, that's relaly inefficient). Froyo, if you restore an old nand backup, tells you you have to format your SD card.
Cyanogen Eris Lightning Bolt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723263
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well I never used apps2sd when I used 2.1 roms. I went from Ivan's 1.0 I think it was to KaosFroyo and when I did, it wouldn't recognize my SD card. I'm not sure if when I go back if it will recognize the card, or if I will need to format it again.
the reason I put it in this section and not the q&a since it involves custom roms and I figured that the q&a would be for more basic questions that people who do not root their phone would use compared to the rooting crowd.
I would like to say I am very lucky to be able to root, since my original Eris got stolen out of my locker at work when they broke the lock off my locker. My replacement had a version of the bootloader(1.49 or something like that) which wasn't supposed to be rootable. I used that method where you can root without a computer to get the job done. I'm still upset that the insurance company didn't send me the SD card with my replacement(had to go purchase another one) and sent me the wrong case(would be fine if I wanted my Eris to hang from my belt, but I had a silicon gel and I can barely get the phone out of the replacement case to use.)
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You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
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Thanks for this answer. Even more thanks for not trying to belittle me in the process. When I went from ivans 1.0 to kayosfroyo 29, i had to format my sd card. because of that I assumed that I would have to reformat when I went back to Ivan's. I assumed wrong because when I went back to Ivan's, I did not need to format.
I think the solution to my problem is to use KaosFroyo for regular use, then when I have to access my college material, do a nandroid restore back to Ivan's since it has flash light.
So i used to have Obsidian V5 and jump around to rom to rom (2.2) but now after flashing another rom (Axura) everything lags (even worse when applying voodoo or OCLF) and now the only thing that works for me well is a 2.1 rom.
I want to go back to 2.2 without having constant hiccups...is there a way to completely reset the internel SD or something. I tried ODIN to stock 2.1 and unofficial 2.2 then flash a 2.2 but still same results.....anyone?
Have you been clearing user data and the cache before you reinstall packages?
Your best bet is to Odin back to JFD for a fresh start. I do it every time before I flash a new rom just to make sure I'm not bringing over any ghosts.
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Your best bet is to Odin back to JFD for a fresh start. I do it every time before I flash a new rom just to make sure I'm not bringing over any ghosts.
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I have been doing that, for every single 2.2. but i do want the "black froyo theme" and after i flash that to it, it starts lagging, and it starts laggin after i install voodoo or OCLF (ironic huh)
Im running obsedian v5 with no lagfix, black froyo theme. Im also running launcher pro and have 6 homescreens and the phone is super fast and has no lag. Snappier then 2.1 roms with OCLF. "Spare parts" helps transitions run faster, its free in the market.
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Okay, im going to try your setup
By the way, have you tried it with a lag fix?
Within spare parts turn animations to fast or off,whichever you prefer. And no I haven't needed one. I've ran OCLF, z4mod and ULF and there is no need to apply any of these. Im not even overclocked and its really quick.
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Hmmm, well i seemed to have narrowed it down to my External sd card.....every time i remove it, it runs super smooth, everytime i insert it, it scans and as soon as its done scanning, it lags.....should i format my 8gb Class 6 sdcard?
Ahh i think i fixed the problem I found a thumnail folder in my DCIM folder......it was 600MB and contained over 31,000 items.....as soon as i deleted it, looks like it runs fine............ for now
i've been using macnut r12 with the black froyo theme and eugenes stock kernel with CWM, and it is as smooth as silk with amazing battery life.
I flashed bionix v, which was the first Rom I had ever flashed. So basically what i'm trying to say is I am a NOOB! lol, I want to flash the new update to Bionix 1.2. When dragging the .zip file from my desktop to my internal memory do I replace the current bionix folder or just leave it and add the new one to? Then when I go into clockwork do I just flash the new Bionix.zip? I just want to make sure before I screw anything up.
Any And all help is appreciated!
Once you flashed the original bionix-v you can delete it from the root of your internal sd or you can just place the update to 1.2 right on the internal sd with it. ..doesn't matter really.
You dont have to replace the Bionix V zip. with the Bionix 1.2 zip. you can just have both of them in your internal memory and since you already have the Bionix V installed make sure that the Bionix 1.2 you downloaded is the non-wiping version. Once youve done all that you can just flash the Bionix 1.2 zip. Maker sure you dont wipe when you are asked if you want to wipe
So right now I could delete the orginal bionix .zip file and it would still work? Sorry for the dumb questions! haha I appreciate the help though, where is the thanks button at btw? Like I said very new here.
EDIT found the thanks button
yea it would still work
Hi Folks,
as you can probably see this is my first post to XDA. please be kind.
I have used CM7 on both the LG g2x and Samsung Tmobile Vibrant. (T959)
I got a little tripped up trying to go back from CM7 to stock nandroid backup on my Vibrant. I failed to understand the differences in the filesystem layout.
After much jiggering and finagling I did get it back to stock... But you can understand that I don't want to repeat that...
I'm thinking of installing the latest Zendroid. I already am running 2.2 UVKB5 with root. CWM. Cmenard overstock kernel and Voodoo sound.
I make regular backups both with Titanium and CWM....
If I install the latest Zendroid, will I be able to go back to my previous backups?
As far as I understand Zendroid is just a streamlined build of the Samsung OS.
I could upgrade to Zendroid and fallback
Also does the dock audio functionality work with zendroid ? Not a dealbreaker just a question.
bests
JACK LINGUINI
nandroid does not back up your kernel. So if you are going to gingerbread then you cannot restore a nandroid backup of froyo without flashing a froyo kernel first, and even then i'm not 100% sure it would work
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not going to GB
Nope. Zendroid is I *believe* Froyo kernel.
The problem I had trying to restore from CM down to original OS might have been both a kernel issue and a FS issue. I *think* the problem had to do with the different partition table and PIT used by CM7 vs OG Samsung.
Anyhow. I'm a very literal person so I just want to know what I am looking at
before I do a wipe and a whole new install. I don't want to have to go thru the
whole ODIN process if I want to backout.
bests
JACK LINGUINI
I would stay away from CWM (nandroid) backups. When you restore those, you are essentially overwriting the entire system and data partitions on the phone, and basically overwriting the entire rom with whats contained in your backup.
Titanium backups of applications are safe to restore, as well as a few system apps (contacts, dictionary, calendar, bookmarks, and Wifi access points are all I restore from the system apps in Titanium), but mostly with titanium you want to stay away from restoring the red and green colored apps. White are fine though and won't cause any issues.
Basically, if you flash ZenDroid, then do a CWM restore, you will lose all of the streamlining and tweaks that are in my build, and you will really be running stock again.
And yes, ZD is a Froyo (KB5) based rom, and a Froyo based kernel.
Dock audio, should work, but I don't have a dock to test it with. I didn't take anything out of the build that effects it TMK, so it should work.
EDIT - and while you will not have to Odin to go from ZD to a different rom, being good friends with Odin and flashing stock firmware from time to time is always high on my list of recommendations, jsut to alleviate any ghosts of roms past.
Thanks !
That's what I wanted to know.
I just didn't want to deal with any of the CM7 issues when trying to restore.
I do realize that if I install zendroid then restore I go back to my pre zendroid state. I am just making sure that I can roll back to normal if I have issues.
Stock touchwiz is a bit bloated but the basics work good and I get decent battery life. CM7 was pretty heavy on battery life.
I had to use CM7 on the LG G2x because LG couldn't be bothered to produce production ready software before they released the thing.
The Samsung software does have some bloat but runs OK.
thanks br!ck'd for making this build. I will let you know how it's rocking once I install and test.
bests
JACK LINGUINI
Gentlemen,
I am going to root my phone monday next week, but want to be sure all my ducks are in a row before I go shooting.
I will be using Revolution to S-Off,
then install busy box and titanium backup.
My understanding is I don't need a radio since I am on 2.3.4, but I do need a kernal?
I am looking into (and this is where you all come in) one of 4 ROMS:
CM7
Liquid Thunderbread
BAMF Forever
BAMF SoaB.
I like sense 3.5, but heard it slowly starts to bog down the system? Anyone else hear that? Whats your opinions on either of those ROMS, and what is the best Kernal for them?
Finally (will I ever stop asking questions?), I know I have to wipe the phone, but does that include the SD card? Should I move as many of the apps off my phone onto the SD card?
Thanks everyone! Wish me luck!
You will enjoy the freedom rooting will grant you.. I know what your going through now, just want to make sure that it is a one time deal and smooth process.
Revolutionary will install busybox during the root process. So no need to do a separate install.
You are correct about the radio your should be fine. Most roms will tell you in the notes if any specific radio is required.
Some roms come with a custom kernel baked in, while others leave the stock kernel alone. You do not need to mess with kernel until your comfortable overclocking and tweaking processor settings.
Roms are all totally up to what you want. I personally love sense 3.5 and have had no issues with the bog down you mentioned. I do not care for AOSP, the few I tried I ended up going back to a sense based rom.
Currently I'm running InfectedRoms Eternity Sense 3.5. Smooth as silk and lightning fast! Eternity includes Ziggy471s Kernel.
I've heard TeamBamf has a good sense 3.5 as well. Never tired so I can not give you any information on that rom.
Your SDcard does not need to be wiped. Everything you have on there is fine where it is. Prior to install of your first rom you will Wipe Data, cache, and dalvik cache. Then install from zip and GO!
Enjoy